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Cheryl[_3_] 11-06-2013 12:33 AM

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I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
alarmed yet.

I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
bought it over a year ago, going on two.

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brooklyn1 11-06-2013 12:57 AM

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Cheryl wrote:
>
>I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
>pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
>toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
>floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
>kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
>smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
>alarmed yet.


Never would have had that problem if you deep sixed that fercocktah
stone (and silly peel) and used a perforated pan.
http://www.chicagometallicbakeware.c..._uncoated.aspx

Nancy Young[_6_] 11-06-2013 01:09 AM

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On 6/10/2013 7:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
> pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
> toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
> floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
> kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
> smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
> alarmed yet.
>
> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
> bought it over a year ago, going on two.
>

Bummer about the pizza. At least you have a self cleaning oven!

The first time you run it, it will be really fume-y, in case you
didn't know. I only run mine once a year or so, and I make it
a time when I can have the windows open.

nancy

Kalmia 11-06-2013 01:11 AM

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I put parchment paper tween dough and peel and it slides off nicely. You can even use the paper again.

Cheryl[_3_] 11-06-2013 01:21 AM

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On 6/10/2013 8:11 PM, Kalmia wrote:

> I put parchment paper tween dough and peel and it slides off nicely.
> You can even use the paper again.
>

This is a very good tip, thank you. I always have parchment paper.

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Cheryl[_3_] 11-06-2013 01:24 AM

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On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 7:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
>> pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
>> toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
>> floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
>> kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
>> smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
>> alarmed yet.
>>
>> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
>> bought it over a year ago, going on two.
>>

> Bummer about the pizza. At least you have a self cleaning oven!
>
> The first time you run it, it will be really fume-y, in case you
> didn't know. I only run mine once a year or so, and I make it
> a time when I can have the windows open.
>
> nancy


This is my first self cleaning oven. Thanks for the tip. The weather
is going from hot to cool lately so I'm going to pick one of the coolish
days very soon, though the pollen is horrible and gets me and one of my
cats going but I guess we'll have to deal.

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casa bona 11-06-2013 02:13 AM

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On 6/10/2013 5:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
> pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
> toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
> floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
> kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
> smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
> alarmed yet.
>
> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
> bought it over a year ago, going on two.
>


Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
it will discolor them.

If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.



casa bona 11-06-2013 02:23 AM

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On 6/10/2013 7:18 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:24:31 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> This is my first self cleaning oven. Thanks for the tip. The weather
>> is going from hot to cool lately so I'm going to pick one of the coolish
>> days very soon,

>
> Read your owners manual! And don't plan on using your oven right after
> cleaning it. It takes a while to get right after a cleaning cycle and
> that time is always longer than it should be.
>
>

And after the oven has cooled completely, with door open, expect to
sponge out a lot of white fly ash from the cleaning.

Polly Esther[_2_] 11-06-2013 02:40 AM

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"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/10/2013 5:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
>> pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
>> toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
>> floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
>> kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
>> smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
>> alarmed yet.
>>
>> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
>> bought it over a year ago, going on two.
>>

>
> Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in, it
> will discolor them.
>
> If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.
>
>The first time I ran that cycle on a new oven, I was SO dismayed that the
>oven door's glass was not pretty anymore. Try to get your glass just as
>clean as you can before you run the self-cleaning cycle. May help. Can't
>hurt. Polly



dsi1[_15_] 11-06-2013 03:03 AM

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On 6/10/2013 1:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
> pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
> toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
> floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
> kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
> smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
> alarmed yet.
>
> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
> bought it over a year ago, going on two.
>



The self-cleaning mode on the oven is a neat thing. It beats the heck
out of having to stick your head in the oven and scrubbing. I've only
used the cycle once on my newish Samsung and it may have messed up the
thermosensor. I guess I better order some spares beforehand. Hopefully,
you oven will fare better.

pltrgyst[_4_] 11-06-2013 03:08 AM

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On 6/10/13 8:11 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I put parchment paper tween dough and peel and it slides off nicely. You can even use the paper again.


You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.

-- Larry


MaryL[_2_] 11-06-2013 03:18 AM

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"Cheryl" wrote in message
eb.com...

I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
alarmed yet.

I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
bought it over a year ago, going on two.

~~~~~~
I assume you have a self-cleaning oven. If so, be sure to remove the racks
(and clean them by hand) before you run the cleaning cycle. Those
chrome-plated racks will be ruined if they are left in the oven during the
cleaning cycle--they will turn black and become so "rough" that they will
not move smoothly. That means that liquids are likely to spill when you try
to move the racks.

MaryL


[email protected][_2_] 11-06-2013 04:20 AM

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On Jun 10, 6:57*pm, Brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>
> Never would have had that problem if you deep sixed that fercocktah
> stone (and silly peel) and used a perforated pan.
> http://www.chicagometallicbakeware.c...zzaPans/2/perf...
>
>

I've got one just like that, $4.99 at Aldi.


Polly Esther[_2_] 11-06-2013 04:38 AM

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"pltrgyst" <>
> You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
> 550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
> pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
> brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.
>
> -- Larry
>

550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly


bigwheel 11-06-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheryl[_3_] (Post 1839870)
I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my
toppings went sliding into the oven, both on the stone and onto the oven
floor. Of course it was preheated so nothing I could do about it. My
kitchen is full of smoke but the fan is doing a good job keeping the
smoke out of the rest of the house, at least my smoke detector hasn't
alarmed yet.

I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
bought it over a year ago, going on two.

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Sorry to hear of the mishap..as my Dear Old Daddy might say...There is many a slip twixt cup and lip...the best laid plans of mice and men oftimes go "awry" etc. Think it be good to scoop out the residuals and put the oven on the cleaning setting or 500 degrees which ever might come first. That is why its good to add the anchovies and pickled japs at the table. Keep us apprised of the situation. Thanks.

sf[_9_] 11-06-2013 08:18 AM

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:08:15 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

> On 6/10/13 8:11 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > I put parchment paper tween dough and peel and it slides off nicely. You can even use the paper again.

>
> You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
> 550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
> pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
> brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.
>

I can't reuse parchment paper either.

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sf[_9_] 11-06-2013 08:19 AM

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:38:18 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> wrote:

>
> "pltrgyst" <>
> > You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
> > 550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
> > pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
> > brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.
> >
> > -- Larry
> >

> 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly


Even if it was at 475° the parchment paper would still be toast.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Jim Elbrecht 11-06-2013 12:11 PM

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:33:09 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>I guess I'll be testing this soon. I was making a pizza tonight and my
>pizza failed to slide off of the pizza peel and instead, a lot of my


Oh-- when you said pizza and self cleaning oven I thought you were
going for the 90 second pizza-
http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm

-snip-
>
>I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
>bought it over a year ago, going on two.


Don't think I've ever hit the 3 month mark with no spills.<g>

+1 on whoever said 'read the directions' --- And if it says to take
those chrome racks out- then do it. It burns the chrome right off
them. <g>

Otherwise a good way to warm up the kitchen-- I do mine in February
sometimes when it isn't even dirty. . . . . well, I think about it.

Jim

Dave Smith[_1_] 11-06-2013 01:33 PM

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On 11/06/2013 7:11 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
nip-
>>
>> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
>> bought it over a year ago, going on two.

>
> Don't think I've ever hit the 3 month mark with no spills.<g>


Same here.
>
> +1 on whoever said 'read the directions' --- And if it says to take
> those chrome racks out- then do it. It burns the chrome right off
> them. <g>


I thought the problem was that it bakes the grime onto the racks and it
make sit even harder to scrub off.



> Otherwise a good way to warm up the kitchen-- I do mine in February
> sometimes when it isn't even dirty. . . . . well, I think about it.
>


I prefer to do it some time when it is cool enough to need heat but warm
enough to open windows.


Gary 11-06-2013 01:39 PM

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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I prefer to do it some time when it is cool enough to need heat but warm
> enough to open windows.


I even open my windows during the dead of winter for about 1/2 hour when a
good breeze is blowing just to flush out all the old air. I have windows on
east side and west side so it flushes out quickly when the wind is right and
blowing.

You lose air heat that way but all your furniture and walls etc, don't lose
much. It's quick to turn back on the heat to warm it all up again.

G.

Mark Storkamp 11-06-2013 02:46 PM

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In article >,
"Polly Esther" > wrote:

> "pltrgyst" <>
> > You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
> > 550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
> > pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
> > brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.
> >
> > -- Larry
> >

> 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly


Makes for a better crust. After reading about the Breville pizza maker
here a while back that heats up to 660 I picked up one of those. Best
pizza I've ever made.

Gary 11-06-2013 02:54 PM

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Mark Storkamp wrote:
>
> "Polly Esther" wrote:
> > 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly

>
> Makes for a better crust. After reading about the Breville pizza maker
> here a while back that heats up to 660 I picked up one of those. Best
> pizza I've ever made.


I make homemade pizzas often. I always cook them for 20 minutes at 425. That
works good every time.

G.

casa bona 11-06-2013 03:33 PM

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On 6/11/2013 4:34 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:31 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>>>

>>
>> Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
>> it will discolor them.
>>
>> If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.
>>

>
> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish. I
> have always decided that probably the worst part of cleaning an oven
> is doing the racks, I don't need shiny so leave them in, they become
> far cleaner than I ever made them!


Someone else mentioned that they lose the ability to slide easily, that
would be something I'd avoid.

For cleaning I toss them on newspaper in the back yard, spray down with
oven cleaner and let sit for a while.

> I try to remember to clean the oven 3 or 4 times per year, that way
> you can set the cycle for a couple of hours, quicker and less smelly.
> I also pull the stove out a bit so that the oven door is clear of the
> surrounding cabinets. I have that white finish and have heard nasty
> stories of it discolouring or worse, so don't take a chance. YMMV


That's a good tip.



Jim Elbrecht 11-06-2013 04:24 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:54:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>
>> "Polly Esther" wrote:
>> > 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly

>>
>> Makes for a better crust. After reading about the Breville pizza maker
>> here a while back that heats up to 660 I picked up one of those. Best
>> pizza I've ever made.

>
>I make homemade pizzas often. I always cook them for 20 minutes at 425. That
>works good every time.
>


if you like 20 minutes at 425- you'll love 12 minutes at 550 - or
under 2 minutes at 800-1000F
http://www.2stonepizzagrill.com/

Jim

casa bona 11-06-2013 04:35 PM

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On 6/11/2013 9:24 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:54:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Mark Storkamp wrote:
>>>
>>> "Polly Esther" wrote:
>>>> 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly
>>>
>>> Makes for a better crust. After reading about the Breville pizza maker
>>> here a while back that heats up to 660 I picked up one of those. Best
>>> pizza I've ever made.

>>
>> I make homemade pizzas often. I always cook them for 20 minutes at 425. That
>> works good every time.
>>

>
> if you like 20 minutes at 425- you'll love 12 minutes at 550 - or
> under 2 minutes at 800-1000F
> http://www.2stonepizzagrill.com/
>
> Jim
>


Very true, commercial wood burning pizza ovens rarely drop below 800F.

525 seems to work well for my pizza stone without making the oven glow
all night.

Mark Storkamp 11-06-2013 04:39 PM

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In article >, Gary > wrote:

> Mark Storkamp wrote:
> >
> > "Polly Esther" wrote:
> > > 550? really? I don't think my oven can do that and why would you? Polly

> >
> > Makes for a better crust. After reading about the Breville pizza maker
> > here a while back that heats up to 660 I picked up one of those. Best
> > pizza I've ever made.

>
> I make homemade pizzas often. I always cook them for 20 minutes at 425. That
> works good every time.
>
> G.


I started in college with the box mixes. They bake at what? 325, 350?
They work good too. But if you can go hotter, I suggest you try it.

brooklyn1 11-06-2013 05:39 PM

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:08:15 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

>On 6/10/13 8:11 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> I put parchment paper tween dough and peel and it slides off nicely. You can even use the paper again.

>
>You can? At what temperature do you cook your pizzas? With my oven at
>550 deg F +, the exposed parchment paper and part of what's under the
>pizza turns black and chars. The remainder under the pizza turns medium
>brown and can't be used for anything that I know of.


What, you haven't heard of TP?



brooklyn1 11-06-2013 05:47 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:34:37 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:31 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>>>

>>
>>Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
>>it will discolor them.



They'd be nickel plated, not chrome.

>>If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.


I've never seen porclainized oven racks.

>You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish.


What oven racks lose at cleaning temperature is their temper, the
steel will go soft and be unsafe for supporting relatively heavy loads
like large roasts/caseroles.

brooklyn1 11-06-2013 05:48 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:33:58 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 6/11/2013 4:34 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:31 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
>>> it will discolor them.
>>>
>>> If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.
>>>

>>
>> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish. I
>> have always decided that probably the worst part of cleaning an oven
>> is doing the racks, I don't need shiny so leave them in, they become
>> far cleaner than I ever made them!

>
>Someone else mentioned that they lose the ability to slide easily, that
>would be something I'd avoid.


Coat with K-Y Jelly.

Nancy Young[_6_] 11-06-2013 06:04 PM

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On 6/11/2013 12:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:34:37 -0300, wrote:


>> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish.

>
> What oven racks lose at cleaning temperature is their temper, the
> steel will go soft and be unsafe for supporting relatively heavy loads
> like large roasts/caseroles.


That happened with my previous range, I don't know why I thought
it would be fine to leave the racks in there. While the racks
didn't break under the weight of a heavy pot, they certainly
bowed more than before I 'self-cleaned' them. I imagine they
would eventually break if I kept doing that.

nancy

casa bona 11-06-2013 06:05 PM

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On 6/11/2013 10:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:34:37 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:31 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
>>> it will discolor them.

>
>
> They'd be nickel plated, not chrome.


True enough. I used chrome as a look not the content.

>>> If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.

>
> I've never seen porclainized oven racks.


GE made some. Also Weber used to have them on some of their gas grills.

>> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish.

>
> What oven racks lose at cleaning temperature is their temper, the
> steel will go soft and be unsafe for supporting relatively heavy loads
> like large roasts/caseroles.


Excellent explanation, thank you.



casa bona 11-06-2013 06:06 PM

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On 6/11/2013 10:48 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:33:58 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/11/2013 4:34 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:31 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check your owners manual, if you have chrome racks don't leave them in,
>>>> it will discolor them.
>>>>
>>>> If they're porcelain enameled, they generally stay in for the cycle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish. I
>>> have always decided that probably the worst part of cleaning an oven
>>> is doing the racks, I don't need shiny so leave them in, they become
>>> far cleaner than I ever made them!

>>
>> Someone else mentioned that they lose the ability to slide easily, that
>> would be something I'd avoid.

>
> Coat with K-Y Jelly.
>

That stuff might ignite at 550F!

sf[_9_] 11-06-2013 06:12 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:33:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 11/06/2013 7:11 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> nip-
> >>
> >> I'm normally a neat cook and my oven hasn't had any spills since I
> >> bought it over a year ago, going on two.

> >
> > Don't think I've ever hit the 3 month mark with no spills.<g>

>
> Same here.


I don't over load my pizza, so spillage is not an issue most of the
time. I put plenty of flour on the peel, give it a shake every now
and then while I'm building the pizza and run a cake spatula under it
if it sticks (which happens pretty quickly in a hot kitchen). What
continually amazes me is it seems like pizza parlors don't have that
problem even though it seems like the prep area in front of their oven
is a lot hotter than it gets in my kitchen.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

brooklyn1 11-06-2013 06:23 PM

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Nancy Young wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>lucretiaborgia wrote:

>
>>> You can leave them in but they will lose the shiny chrome finish.

>>
>> What oven racks lose at cleaning temperature is their temper, the
>> steel will go soft and be unsafe for supporting relatively heavy loads
>> like large roasts/caseroles.

>
>That happened with my previous range, I don't know why I thought
>it would be fine to leave the racks in there. While the racks
>didn't break under the weight of a heavy pot, they certainly
>bowed more than before I 'self-cleaned' them. I imagine they
>would eventually break if I kept doing that.


Eventually a serious situation would occur where a rack would sag
enough under load to drop from its guides... every stove owner's
manual I've ever seen says to remove the racks during the clean
cycle... we don't need any accidents... make sure you choose the
correct size bra! LOL

Jim Elbrecht 11-06-2013 07:25 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:33:03 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:47:27 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>
>>What oven racks lose at cleaning temperature is their temper, the
>>steel will go soft and be unsafe for supporting relatively heavy loads
>>like large roasts/caseroles.

>
>Whatever the shiny finish they lose they still work as before and I
>have had a 25lb turkey on one rack or sometimes 164oz Le Crueset
>casserole, full, and nothing went awry with the shelves. I also often
>place a full, large cast iron pan on one of them.


As usual Sheldon has no idea of what he speaks-- but he likes the
looks of the letters on the screen. I've been 'cleaning' mine since
I first forgot- maybe 10 years ago?- They aren't pretty, but they
aren't weak, either.

I've been doing a 20lb turkey 2-3 times a year and never noticed any
sagging.

The lover rack has had a 5-6 lb stone sitting on it for all that time-
and gets pots & casseroles placed upon it with no ill effects.

>
>Admittedly they don't look as shiny pretty but that does not matter to
>me, cleaning shelves any which way, would bug me far more !


+1

Jim

Nancy Young[_6_] 11-06-2013 07:32 PM

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On 6/11/2013 2:08 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:04:48 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:


>> That happened with my previous range, I don't know why I thought
>> it would be fine to leave the racks in there. While the racks
>> didn't break under the weight of a heavy pot, they certainly
>> bowed more than before I 'self-cleaned' them. I imagine they
>> would eventually break if I kept doing that.


> I can only say mine haven't, it's a Whirlpool range, ten years old and
> the only thing that has changed is the racks are not shiny. The
> manual warned that leaving them in would do that but said nothing
> about them going soft.


I can only relate my experience, how I found out you weren't supposed
to leave them in. That's what I get for not taking out the manual
before cleaning the oven.

nancy

Jim Elbrecht 11-06-2013 08:35 PM

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wrote:

-snip-
>
>I can only say mine haven't, it's a Whirlpool range, ten years old and
>the only thing that has changed is the racks are not shiny. The
>manual warned that leaving them in would do that but said nothing
>about them going soft.


Mine's a similar vintage Kenmore [likely a whirlpool ] So maybe we're
the lucky ones.

Jim

sf[_9_] 11-06-2013 08:41 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:35:49 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> 525 seems to work well for my pizza stone without making the oven glow
> all night.


To be honest, I don't see much (if any) time difference between 475
and 525, so I usually don't swing it all the way over and stop at 500
- next time, I need to make sure to the dial all the way around and
see how it goes. The last time I made pizza, I was surprised by how
light the bottom of the crust was - so maybe I didn't set my oven hot
enough.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

casa bona 11-06-2013 09:02 PM

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On 6/11/2013 1:41 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:35:49 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> 525 seems to work well for my pizza stone without making the oven glow
>> all night.

>
> To be honest, I don't see much (if any) time difference between 475
> and 525, so I usually don't swing it all the way over and stop at 500
> - next time, I need to make sure to the dial all the way around and
> see how it goes. The last time I made pizza, I was surprised by how
> light the bottom of the crust was - so maybe I didn't set my oven hot
> enough.
>

Do you use convection? I find that with convection bake I need the
higher temp to account for the shorter cooking time so the crust will
get golden. I can't use convection roast because the top element comes
on and overcooks the toppings. I always leave my stone in for 15 minutes
or so to come to temp before cooking.

MaryL[_2_] 11-06-2013 10:20 PM

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"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...

On 11/06/2013 7:11 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

> +1 on whoever said 'read the directions' --- And if it says to take
> those chrome racks out- then do it. It burns the chrome right off
> them. <g>


I thought the problem was that it bakes the grime onto the racks and it
make sit even harder to scrub off.

~~~~~
No, it actually burns and ruins the chrome (or "chrome-like") finish. I
wrote earlier to warn about this problem, but I think it may be worth
repeating. It happened to me once. The racks were burned black. Worse,
the texture was then so rough that they did not move smoothly--they
"grabbed" so that liquids would easily spill when trying to move the racks.

Some of you may be interested in how my racks were left in place during the
cleaning process. I really had read the manual and had always removed them
before starting the self-cleaning process. Several years ago, Holly (my
cat) actually activated the cleaning function. The buttons on mine are flat
in front of the cooktop, and she *walked* on them. Amazingly, it takes two
buttons to turn on the cleaning process, but she managed to do it. By the
time I discovered it, it was too late--the oven was then very hot, and it
locks automatically during the self-cleaning stage. The racks were in such
bad condition from the cleaning that I bought new ones (not cheap).
Fortunately, it has never happened again. It is very rare for her to get
onto the stove, but I always make sure the burners are cool or have a pan on
them before leaving the room.

MaryL




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