On 6/8/2013 12:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 06/06/2013 1:51 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> The word, which originates from Hebrew and not German, ends with a
>> silent consonant that, when sounded in other instances, is pronounced
>> like an "h." Many (most, actually) Hebrew words have a 3-letter
>> "shoresh" or root, and from that root, various nouns and verbs and
>> whatever else associated with it are created. This goes for nouns and
>> verbs, not proper names, nor conjunctions and the like.
>>
>> Hanukah is another such word Americans might know - it ends in the same
>> silent-in-this-case consonant.
>>
>
>
> If it were in a spelling bee would it be Chanukah, Hanukkah or Hannuka?
>
Merriam Webster has it as #2 - Hanukka.

But they use the others as variants.

Odd that they list the first known use to 1843.

On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 12:44:48 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 6/8/2013 12:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 06/06/2013 1:51 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> The word, which originates from Hebrew and not German, ends with a
>>> silent consonant that, when sounded in other instances, is pronounced
>>> like an "h." Many (most, actually) Hebrew words have a 3-letter
>>> "shoresh" or root, and from that root, various nouns and verbs and
>>> whatever else associated with it are created. This goes for nouns and
>>> verbs, not proper names, nor conjunctions and the like.
>>>
>>> Hanukah is another such word Americans might know - it ends in the same
>>> silent-in-this-case consonant.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If it were in a spelling bee would it be Chanukah, Hanukkah or Hannuka?
>>
>Merriam Webster has it as #2 - Hanukka.

Really?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=number%202

On 6/8/2013 2:44 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/8/2013 12:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 06/06/2013 1:51 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> The word, which originates from Hebrew and not German, ends with a
>>> silent consonant that, when sounded in other instances, is pronounced
>>> like an "h." Many (most, actually) Hebrew words have a 3-letter
>>> "shoresh" or root, and from that root, various nouns and verbs and
>>> whatever else associated with it are created. This goes for nouns and
>>> verbs, not proper names, nor conjunctions and the like.
>>>
>>> Hanukah is another such word Americans might know - it ends in the same
>>> silent-in-this-case consonant.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If it were in a spelling bee would it be Chanukah, Hanukkah or Hannuka?
>>
> Merriam Webster has it as #2 - Hanukka.
>
> But they use the others as variants.
>
> Odd that they list the first known use to 1843.
>
>
Was Chanukah not introduced as a possible Jewish alternative for Christmas?

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 6/8/2013 1:24 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 6/8/2013 2:44 PM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/8/2013 12:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 06/06/2013 1:51 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>
>>>> The word, which originates from Hebrew and not German, ends with a
>>>> silent consonant that, when sounded in other instances, is pronounced
>>>> like an "h." Many (most, actually) Hebrew words have a 3-letter
>>>> "shoresh" or root, and from that root, various nouns and verbs and
>>>> whatever else associated with it are created. This goes for nouns and
>>>> verbs, not proper names, nor conjunctions and the like.
>>>>
>>>> Hanukah is another such word Americans might know - it ends in the same
>>>> silent-in-this-case consonant.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it were in a spelling bee would it be Chanukah, Hanukkah or Hannuka?
>>>
>> Merriam Webster has it as #2 - Hanukka.
>>
>> But they use the others as variants.
>>
>> Odd that they list the first known use to 1843.
>>
>>
> Was Chanukah not introduced as a possible Jewish alternative for Christmas?

I've never heard that one. It celebrates the re-dedication of the second
temple in Jerusalem after the Maccabees rebelled against the Greeks.

Maybe you have it confused with Kwanza.

On 6/8/2013 1:18 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 12:44:48 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/8/2013 12:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 06/06/2013 1:51 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>
>>>> The word, which originates from Hebrew and not German, ends with a
>>>> silent consonant that, when sounded in other instances, is pronounced
>>>> like an "h." Many (most, actually) Hebrew words have a 3-letter
>>>> "shoresh" or root, and from that root, various nouns and verbs and
>>>> whatever else associated with it are created. This goes for nouns and
>>>> verbs, not proper names, nor conjunctions and the like.
>>>>
>>>> Hanukah is another such word Americans might know - it ends in the same
>>>> silent-in-this-case consonant.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it were in a spelling bee would it be Chanukah, Hanukkah or Hannuka?
>>>
>> Merriam Webster has it as #2 - Hanukka.
>
> Really?
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=number%202
>
Lol, ok, I should have said the second one :-)

James Silverton wrote:

-snip-

> Was Chanukah not introduced as a possible Jewish alternative for
> Christmas?

Chanukah predates Jesus and therefore couldn't be a Jewish alternative
for anything Christian.

Hanukah is, however, a relatively minor holiday in the Jewish calendar
that's become more culturally significant because of its proximity to
Christmas, making it, yes, the Jewish Christmas in Western,
predominatnly Christian societies, but that wasn't the original
intention.

-S-

On 6/9/2013 12:23 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
>> Was Chanukah not introduced as a possible Jewish alternative for
>> Christmas?
>
> Chanukah predates Jesus and therefore couldn't be a Jewish alternative
> for anything Christian.
>
> Hanukah is, however, a relatively minor holiday in the Jewish calendar
> that's become more culturally significant because of its proximity to
> Christmas, making it, yes, the Jewish Christmas in Western,
> predominatnly Christian societies, but that wasn't the original
> intention.
>
> -S-
>
>
Yes, I expressed myself badly. I should have said celebration of the
minor feast Chanukah, commemorating the re-dedication of the Temple, was
promoted as a Jewish Christmas.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

zxcvbob wrote:
> Isn't knaidel (another word for dumpling) a transcription from Yiddish
> and therefore has no standard spelling?
>
> Bob

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mel...save-wor,2316/

-S-