On May 23, 11:16*pm, sf > wrote:
> We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
> bridge collapsed and that's not funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.

On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

> On May 23, 11:16*pm, sf > wrote:
> > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
> > bridge collapsed and that's not funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
> >
> > --
> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
> No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.

Sorry, I'm not buying that story. A bridge support collapsed and
caused the span to fall. You only need to look at the pictures to see
draw that conclusion. The collapsed span is completely over water,
which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>> On May 23, 11:16 pm, sf > wrote:
>> > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
>> > bridge collapsed and that's not
>> > funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>>
>> No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
>
> Sorry, I'm not buying that story. A bridge support collapsed and
> caused the span to fall. You only need to look at the pictures to see
> draw that conclusion. The collapsed span is completely over water,
> which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.

Maybe the same builders that are involved with the Bay Bridge.

Cheri

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:00:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On May 23, 11:16 pm, sf > wrote:
> >> > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
> >> > bridge collapsed and that's not
> >> > funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
> >> >
> >>
> >> No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not buying that story. A bridge support collapsed and
> > caused the span to fall. You only need to look at the pictures to see
> > draw that conclusion. The collapsed span is completely over water,
> > which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.
>
> Maybe the same builders that are involved with the Bay Bridge.
>

The bay bridge had two decks and the span that collapsed during the
*earthquake* was on the upper deck, not the lower one.

One of the concrete supports that held the Washington bridge above
water simply isn't there anymore and a truck hitting something above
it has nothing to do with that. What's very clear from looking at
images of the Washington bridge is that it simply FELL down. Too bad
they don't have an earthquake to blame. I would have bought that
story.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> The bay bridge had two decks and the span that collapsed during the
> *earthquake* was on the upper deck, not the lower one.

I'm talking about the shoddy workmanship going on right now, not from teh
earthquake in 1987.

Cheri

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:00:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 23, 11:16 pm, sf > wrote:
>>> > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
>>> > bridge collapsed and that's not
>>> > funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>>>
>>> No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
>>
>> Sorry, I'm not buying that story. A bridge support collapsed and
>> caused the span to fall. You only need to look at the pictures to see
>> draw that conclusion. The collapsed span is completely over water,
>> which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.
>
>Maybe the same builders that are involved with the Bay Bridge.
>
>Cheri

The builders are not at fault here. The bridge was old, past it's
time, worn out, needed to be replaced. We, the voting public are the
ones at fault. We voted into office those extremists that block
infrastructure repair. It's no good blaming the work force. We need
to get rid of the politicians that are so concerned with getting
re-elected that they will whore for the extremists just on the
off-chance they will get another vote. This is our country. It's no
different than owning an apartment building with many tenants. The
tenant rent is based on what it costs for upkeep and the portion of
the building that they use. If you don't keep the place in good
condition, it loses value and good-paying tenants. Aw, crap! I'm
getting all worked up again.
Janet US

On May 24, 8:58*am, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 11:16*pm, sf > wrote:
> > > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
> > > bridge collapsed and that's not funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
>
> > > --
> > > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
> > No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
>
> Sorry, I'm not buying that story. *A bridge support collapsed and
> caused the span to fall. *You only need to look at the pictures to see
> draw that conclusion. *The collapsed span is completely over water,
> which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

The truck was in the right lane, which has a lower clearance than the
left lane.

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

> On May 24, 8:58*am, sf > wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On May 23, 11:16*pm, sf > wrote:
> > > > We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
> > > > bridge collapsed and that's not funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
> >
> > > No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not buying that story. *A bridge support collapsed and
> > caused the span to fall. *You only need to look at the pictures to see
> > draw that conclusion. *The collapsed span is completely over water,
> > which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.
> >
> > --
> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
> The truck was in the right lane, which has a lower clearance than the
> left lane.

I still don't see what that had to do with the supporting structure
underneath the bridge.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 24/05/2013 3:41 PM, sf wrote:

>>
>> The truck was in the right lane, which has a lower clearance than the
>> left lane.
>
> I still don't see what that had to do with the supporting structure
> underneath the bridge.
>


It has a lot to do with the truss design of the bridge. The
superstructure helps to support the deck below it.

But still... for part of the load to have hit the beam with very little
damage to the load itself, but to cause enough damage to the structure
that it failed???? Hell I have seen a lot of bridges damaged over the
years, and they didn't fail. We had a propane tanker crash into a bridge
and burn and the bridge did not fail. I was once behind a truck hauling
a backhoe at 60 mph and the rear boom hit the bridge deck hard enough to
knock the whole backhoe boom off and it knocked a huge chunk of concrete
off the bridge, and it didn't fail. I have seen bridges where the were
damage from the top right down through the re-bars, and just a few feet
down there was damage from the bottom up through the re-bars and, though
that was a failure, it was not a catastrophic one.

In order for a vehicle load to have done enough damage to take down a
section of the bridge there had to have been something drastically wrong
with it. For that to have happened without a lot more damage to the load
just means it was that much worse.

Bear in mind that loads are bound to trucks with chains. One could
reasoanbly expect the chains to fail before a bridge would collapse.

On 24/05/2013 11:58 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>> On May 23, 11:16 pm, sf > wrote:
>>> We were making fun of it down here, because it was just 5.7... but a
>>> bridge collapsed and that's not funny.http://abcnews.go.com/US/bridge-coll...ashington-send...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>>
>> No earthquake here- it was an oversized truck.
>
> Sorry, I'm not buying that story. A bridge support collapsed and
> caused the span to fall. You only need to look at the pictures to see
> draw that conclusion. The collapsed span is completely over water,
> which means the truck was *on* the bridge, not under it.
>


It does seem odd that an oversized load could so the kind of damage that
could cause a bridge to collapse, or that it would not have given out
almost immediately after contact was made.

FWIW, the movement of overdimensional vehicles and loads is is done by
permits and is strictly monitored. Anything over the normal height and
width limits has to have a permit when you get over some limits there a
a lot of conditions they have to abide by.


The latest report I read says that the vehicle hit an overhead support.
It seems odd that he would that he would get all the way to the end of
the bridge before hitting something, considering that it should have
been the same height as all the other parts.

The bridge collapsed because a truck hit it. Nothing to do with an
earthquake.

On Sat, 25 May 2013 18:25:08 -0700, (Momma
Raider) wrote:

> The bridge collapsed because a truck hit it. Nothing to do with an
> earthquake.

No earthquake and the truck barely grazed it, so the question at hand
now is - *Why* did it collapse?

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On May 25, 10:19*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 18:25:08 -0700, (Momma
>
> Raider) wrote:
> > The bridge collapsed because a truck hit it. *Nothing to do with an
> > earthquake.
>
> No earthquake and the truck barely grazed it, so the question at hand
> now is - *Why* did it collapse?
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

It was not barely grazed...

On 26/05/2013 1:12 PM, merryb wrote:
> On May 25, 10:19 pm, sf > wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 May 2013 18:25:08 -0700, (Momma
>>
>> Raider) wrote:
>>> The bridge collapsed because a truck hit it. Nothing to do with an
>>> earthquake.
>>
>> No earthquake and the truck barely grazed it, so the question at hand
>> now is - *Why* did it collapse?
>>
>> --
>> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
>
> It was not barely grazed...
>


Did you see the picture of the damage to the load? It is barely
damaged. As someone else pointed out, it looked like it had been hit
with a sledge hammer. The bridge truss beams were much more substantial
than that structure that was being moved.