Resto question I read on a resto review site.

Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because

a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.

b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )

c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine thirty.

Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on the road or sumthin.

Was he justified in his complaint?

On Apr 11, 10:31*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>
> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>
> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>
> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>
> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and refused to cook. *The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine thirty.
>
> Was the chef wrong? *What does that closed time mean? *If your fanny kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. *Maybe this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on the road or sumthin.
>
> Was he justified in his complaint?

Usually when a restaurant advertises that the kitchen closes at 9:30
it means that orders placed before 9:30 will be honored.
Restaurants advertise what time their kitchen closes so that the
restaurant can close at a certain time. Usually after 9:30, if the
bar is still open, you can get a very limited line of bar food but not
full meals.

If this guy did not let them know he would be late it's his fault.
Usually there is a 15 minute window in a very busy restaurant where
reservations will be honored. Restaurants don't "punish" patrons.
Did he say he was offered something from the limited menu?

On Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:51:37 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> Did he say he was offered something from the limited menu?


He didn't say. He just gave the place one star and its average is 4 1/2 stars, so you can see that it's a well liked place.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:25:30 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:51:37 PM UTC-4, ImStillMags wrote:
> > Did he say he was offered something from the limited menu?
>
>
> He didn't say. He just gave the place one star and its average is 4 1/2 stars, so you can see that it's a well liked place.

I think he got what he deserved. Be that late for a reservation near
closing time and you're playing with fire.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 4/11/2013 11:31 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>
> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>
> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>
> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>
> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine thirty.
>
> Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on the road or sumthin.
>
> Was he justified in his complaint?
>

I don't think so. Close means close, not "We will wait around for 90
minutes after hours so you can have a leisurely dinner."

gloria p

On 4/11/2013 3:44 PM, gloria p wrote:

> I don't think so. Close means close, not "We will wait around for 90
> minutes after hours so you can have a leisurely dinner."
>


When I worked in a restaurant, we started serious cleaning at closing
time. We did he things that didn't affect late diners first, but when it
was time to haul out the vacuum in the dining room, the noise of that
usually gave them the hint that it was time to go. That, and we turned
up the lights to mid-day bright. Kind of a late-nite dinner mood killer.

George L

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:45:36 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

> When I worked in a restaurant, we started serious cleaning at closing
> time. We did he things that didn't affect late diners first, but when it
> was time to haul out the vacuum in the dining room, the noise of that
> usually gave them the hint that it was time to go. That, and we turned
> up the lights to mid-day bright. Kind of a late-nite dinner mood killer.

Restaurants have two different meaning of "closed": some mean the
kitchen is closed, but you're still welcome to finish your meal -
others mean get your sorry ass out of my restaurant pronto.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 4/11/2013 11:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:45:36 -0500, George Leppla
> > wrote:
>
>> When I worked in a restaurant, we started serious cleaning at closing
>> time. We did he things that didn't affect late diners first, but when it
>> was time to haul out the vacuum in the dining room, the noise of that
>> usually gave them the hint that it was time to go. That, and we turned
>> up the lights to mid-day bright. Kind of a late-nite dinner mood killer.
>
> Restaurants have two different meaning of "closed": some mean the
> kitchen is closed, but you're still welcome to finish your meal -
> others mean get your sorry ass out of my restaurant pronto.
>

Years ago on a road trip, we pulled off the interstate at 9 PM looking
for a local place to get a late supper. Found a place, walked to the
door but saw that they were cleaning up for the night so we started to
leave. The owner came out and said that although they were closing, if
we ordered soup, salad or sandwiches he would be glad to fix us
something to eat.

The food was good... nothing special.... but the friendliness of the
owner and the two people working there will be long remembered.

George L

On 4/11/2013 4:44 PM, gloria p wrote:
> On 4/11/2013 11:31 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>>
>> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>>
>> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>>
>> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>>
>> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and
>> refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine
>> thirty.
>>
>> Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny
>> kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
>> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe this
>> was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on
>> the road or sumthin.
>>
>> Was he justified in his complaint?
>>
>
> I don't think so. Close means close, not "We will wait around for 90
> minutes after hours so you can have a leisurely dinner."
>
> gloria p

Exactamundo! It's not like the kitchen staff runs out the door at the
stroke of 9:30, either. They've still got work to do to get the place
ready to open the next day. That keeps them there for at least another
hour, if not more.

Jill

The restaurant needs to change from 'kitchen closes' to 'last seating'.

On Apr 12, 10:35*am, Thomas > wrote:
> The restaurant needs to change from 'kitchen closes' to 'last seating'.

I disagree. Kitchen closes at a specific time implies that all dishes
must be completed by that time. Useful when different dishes take
different times to prepare.

It's really only an estimate. After all, if it's 10 minutes to go and
there haven't been any customers for a while, who can blame the staff
from closing a little early after a long day's work.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 12/04/2013 10:35 AM, Thomas wrote:
> The restaurant needs to change from 'kitchen closes' to 'last seating'.
>

That implies that there set seating times. For most people, the posted
business hours would be enough for most people. There us a good chance
that the person who wrote that bad review had asked their hours when he
called for the reservation. If I were calling to make a reservation for
a dinner that late I would certainly ask how long they were open. If
someone shows makes a reservation for a dinner than late and then shows
up 20 minutes late he has no one to blame but himself. It might be
different if he could have honestly posted that he had asked if the
kitchen would still be open that late and the closed early, but I
suspect he did not.

Kalmia wrote:
> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>
> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>
> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>
> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>
> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and
> refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at
> nine thirty.
>
> Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny
> kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe
> this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck
> on the road or sumthin.
>
> Was he justified in his complaint?

Here if they close at a certain time, that means that they will no longer
take new patrons. But... If you arrive at closing time, you may be limited
as to what you can order. Some of the food may have run out, been put away
or thrown out by then.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:55:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Here if they close at a certain time, that means that they will no longer
> take new patrons. But... If you arrive at closing time, you may be limited
> as to what you can order. Some of the food may have run out, been put away
> or thrown out by then.

Nodding in agreement.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 11/04/2013 1:31 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>
> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>
> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>
> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>
> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine thirty.
>
> Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on the road or sumthin.
>
> Was he justified in his complaint?



If the kitchen closes at 9:30 that would mean that it closes at 9:30.
If someone arrives at 9:20 there isn't much chance that they orders are
going to be taken and prepared within 10 minutes.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:32:36 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> If the kitchen closes at 9:30 that would mean that it closes at 9:30.
> If someone arrives at 9:20 there isn't much chance that they orders are
> going to be taken and prepared within 10 minutes.

That too, but it's no contest that he was an arrogant fool. If he was
a well known and LIKED customer, it might have been different.
"Might" only means maybe if he was lucky and had phoned ahead of time
with a reasonable apology for being so late... if he knew the
restaurant, he could have told them what he wanted to order when he
called with his apology so they could work around it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Resto question I read on a resto review site.
>
> Someone beefed about a highly rated restaurant because
>
> a. he made a reservation for 9 pm.
>
> b. arrived at 9:20 ( never called to advise )
>
> c. when they arrived, the chef had decided to close kitchen and refused to cook. The resto advertised that the kitchen closed at nine thirty.
>
> Was the chef wrong? What does that closed time mean? If your fanny kits the seat by 9:30, is the resto obligated to serve?
> I can see where they assumed the guy wasn't going to show. Maybe this was their punishment for his not calling, but maybe he got stuck on the road or sumthin.
>
> Was he justified in his complaint?

I do not. If he was stuck, he should have called and told them, so I
think the restaurant can do whatever they want to do. If no one was
in the restaurant at 9PM and they decided to start cleaning the
kitchen at 9:10 or whatever time the chef chose - "you snooze, you
loose - too bad, so sad". It sounds like he went against the norm
for that restaurant, took a chance and was told "Be here when you make
your reservation if it's near closing time and you don't call to tell
us you're having a problem getting here". I hope he had a wake up
call, but arrogant @ssholes like that think the world revolves around
them -- then complain via yelp and any other media they can think of
about their "bad" treatment. We've gone into empty restaurants around
closing time and have not been refused service, but did have a limited
menu because they had started cleaning the kitchen. We didn't care,
because it's easier to choose from a limited menu in a restaurant that
we've never eaten in and will never return to.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

I have been younger. I have been lots younger but I can't imagine making a
reservation for dinner at 9 pm at a restaurant that clearly closes the
kitchen at 9:30. Why would anybody do that? Back in our Mardi Gras days we
might go out for dinner at midnight but certainly wouldn't consider a place
that was going to close in thirty minutes. What was that guy thinking?
Never mind. He couldn't have been thinking. Polly

On 4/12/2013 12:17 AM, Polly Esther wrote:

> I have been younger. I have been lots younger but I can't imagine
> making a reservation for dinner at 9 pm at a restaurant that clearly
> closes the kitchen at 9:30. Why would anybody do that? Back in our
> Mardi Gras days we might go out for dinner at midnight but certainly
> wouldn't consider a place that was going to close in thirty minutes.
> What was that guy thinking? Never mind. He couldn't have been
> thinking. Polly

Maybe they had something to do earlier and that was the only time they
could grab something to eat?

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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:28:59 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> Maybe they had something to do earlier and that was the only time they
> could grab something to eat?

Then they should have picked a restaurant that stayed open later or
called when they knew they were going to be late.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Polly Esther wrote:
> I have been younger. I have been lots younger but I can't imagine
> making a reservation for dinner at 9 pm at a restaurant that clearly
> closes the kitchen at 9:30. Why would anybody do that? Back in our
> Mardi Gras days we might go out for dinner at midnight but certainly
> wouldn't consider a place that was going to close in thirty minutes. What
> was that guy thinking? Never mind. He couldn't have been
> thinking. Polly

We have done that a lot but we always order something that would either be
quick to fix or is already made up. And we know that the full menu is
likely not available at that hour. These days the only 24 hour restaurant
left in this area is Denny's. But there is a Mexican place that is open
late.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:17:21 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> wrote:

> He couldn't have been thinking.

Agree! Or he just wanted to set them up for a "poor little me" type
bad review.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 12/04/2013 12:17 AM, Polly Esther wrote:
> I have been younger. I have been lots younger but I can't imagine
> making a reservation for dinner at 9 pm at a restaurant that clearly
> closes the kitchen at 9:30. Why would anybody do that? Back in our
> Mardi Gras days we might go out for dinner at midnight but certainly
> wouldn't consider a place that was going to close in thirty minutes.
> What was that guy thinking? Never mind. He couldn't have been
> thinking. Polly

It wasn't a matter of thought. I was his attitude. The world revolves
around him.

Sqwertz wrote:
> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.

Right now they are doing construcion on the road that leads from our house
to Angela's dance studio. There is a lighted sign that sometimes says,
"Expect 15 minute delays". Note that it says "delays". Because sometimes
there is not one but two delays! Sometimes it just says "Expect long
delays." Some days we leave early and there are no delays. So we get there
far too early. Other days we leave as early as we can. Because we can't
leave until she is home from school. And we might still be late. This
problem is ongoing and we've been putting up with it for months now. And
the only other two ways to get there would be via Snohomish or via
Woodinville, both of which take us many miles out of our way, creating yet
another delay. To compound matters further, they are also working on the
Highway in Woodinville that we would have to drive down should we take that
route. So that's really no better. When there were working closer to home,
we could go about 4 miles or so out of our way and then cut back. But that
route won't help us now because the bunged up portion is past where that
road is. At least they are not re-routing us now. A couple of times we had
to drive down totally unfamiliar country type roads.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.

I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If traffic
might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that possibility.

Once, I set up an appointment on a Wednesday to be there the next Monday
morning at 8am to give her an estimate. I rang her doorbell right at 8am
that next Monday. She opened the door and said loudly, "Oh my god, I can't
believe you!"

I freaked. wth? I said, "What?" :-O

She replied, "You're here exactly when you said you would be. You are the
first person ever to do that." I got the job. :-D

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
>> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
>> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.
>
> I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
> Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If
> traffic
> might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that
> possibility.
>
> Once, I set up an appointment on a Wednesday to be there the next Monday
> morning at 8am to give her an estimate. I rang her doorbell right at 8am
> that next Monday. She opened the door and said loudly, "Oh my god, I can't
> believe you!"
>
> I freaked. wth? I said, "What?" :-O
>
> She replied, "You're here exactly when you said you would be. You are the
> first person ever to do that." I got the job. :-D

LOL I am like you and it has been said that I would be early for my own
funeral <g>
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On 13/04/2013 6:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
>> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
>> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.
>
> I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
> Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If traffic
> might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that possibility.
>
> Once, I set up an appointment on a Wednesday to be there the next Monday
> morning at 8am to give her an estimate. I rang her doorbell right at 8am
> that next Monday. She opened the door and said loudly, "Oh my god, I can't
> believe you!"
>
> I freaked. wth? I said, "What?" :-O
>
> She replied, "You're here exactly when you said you would be. You are the
> first person ever to do that." I got the job. :-D
>


Promptness is a trait in my family. My FiL was always prompt. The rest
of the inlaws....... different matter.
FiL used to have a birthday party/family Christmas party at on of his
clubs in the city every year. He wanted us to be there for 11 am. My
wife, son and I would drive almost 80 miles and be there on time. BN
would never be late for free food. The rest of them would be late. One
nephew was always was always last. He would be an hour or two late. He
always had an excuse and they were always good excuses. He just wasn't
honest enough to just say that he couldn't get his act together because
they world is supposed to revolve around him.

I will never again travel with a group. The last time was with my
brothers and it was one SiL who we always had to wait for. Everything we
did and everywhere we went we had to wait for her. At work there was one
guy who was always late. He arrived late every day. Sometimes we had to
car pool to meetings, sometimes 50-60 miles away, and dealing with rush
hour traffic. It is amazing how upset some people get when you get fed
up with waiting for them all the time and set a deadline and stick to
it, going ahead without them.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
>> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
>> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.
>
> I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
> Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If
> traffic
> might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that
> possibility.
> G.


Yes, I leave early too if I think there will be an issue. Then if I arrive
too early, I just go somewhere close by and have a cup of coffee or tea. My
MIL was the worst, so we started telling her we would be eating an hour
earlier than we actually were, and she usually made it by the actual eating
time. :-)

Cheri

On 13/04/2013 10:10 AM, Cheri wrote:

>
> Yes, I leave early too if I think there will be an issue. Then if I
> arrive too early, I just go somewhere close by and have a cup of coffee
> or tea. My MIL was the worst, so we started telling her we would be
> eating an hour earlier than we actually were, and she usually made it by
> the actual eating time. :-)
>

My mother in law used to do that with the BiL when she cooked holiday
dinners. She would tell us one time and tell him it was one hour
earlier. He would still be late. It drove my FiL crazy because he was
always punctual.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 13/04/2013 10:10 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, I leave early too if I think there will be an issue. Then if I
>> arrive too early, I just go somewhere close by and have a cup of coffee
>> or tea. My MIL was the worst, so we started telling her we would be
>> eating an hour earlier than we actually were, and she usually made it by
>> the actual eating time. :-)
>>
>
> My mother in law used to do that with the BiL when she cooked holiday
> dinners. She would tell us one time and tell him it was one hour earlier.
> He would still be late. It drove my FiL crazy because he was always
> punctual.

Yes, it is enough to drive punctual people crazy. I think the only solution
for serial late arrivals is to just go ahead without them because they're
usually not going to change.

Cheri

On 13/04/2013 11:14 AM, Cheri wrote:

>> My mother in law used to do that with the BiL when she cooked holiday
>> dinners. She would tell us one time and tell him it was one hour
>> earlier. He would still be late. It drove my FiL crazy because he was
>> always punctual.
>
> Yes, it is enough to drive punctual people crazy. I think the only
> solution for serial late arrivals is to just go ahead without them
> because they're usually not going to change.
>

I once suggested to my MiL that we go ahead and eat because it was a
shame to have perfectly done roast ruined. She wanted to wait a few
more minutes and they did show up. It always ruined dinners to have the
punctual FiL upset about the lateness and his schedule being disrupted.

I knew a grumpy old man who had no patience with the tardy types. He
didn't like his stepson much to begin with, but it was especially
annoying for him that the guy was always late. When they had dinner he
insisted that dinner be served at the time the son and his wife had been
invited for, and as soon as they were done he put the food away and
cleaned up the kitchen. When the guests finally showed up they were not
offered any food. FWIW... it didn't help the situation.

For most of the chronically tardy it is just a stupid little power trip
and they tend to get upset when people deny them that petty sort of
control over them, With the guy at work.... we had to go to an early
morning meeting at our head office meeting at our head office. It was
about 70 miles from our office and there is nasty rush hour traffic, We
normally started day shifts at 6 am but planned to come in early and
leave at 5:45. That would get us there before the bad rush and we would
have breakfast there. We told him what time were were leaving....
several times, and warned him that if he was not there we would go
without him.

We left the office at 5:45 and at 7:30 we were at the restaurant
across the road having breakfast. Then we went to across the road for
our meeting. He showed up late for the meeting and he was furious with
us for not waiting. We told him that he had said we were leaving at 5:45
with or without him and he wasn't there. He said we could have waited a
few minutes. As it turned out he wasn't even there for our normal 6 am
start. He had not shown up until 6:15, and then he got stuck in rush
hour traffic. If we had waited we would all have been wait.



The SiL that held everyone up on a European trip was indulged for far
too long. Everywhere we went and everything we did, we had to wait for
here. Then we arrived in Paris and she had some sort of meltdown. Didn't
like the hotel of the neighourhood, so she sat in her room and pouted.
We wasted a day making arrangements for another hotel. We finally got
into a better hotel and wanted to go for a walk. She asked if we could
wait for an hour while she had a bath. WTF.?? She had already wasted 24
hours of our time and now she wanted us to wait while she had a bath.

We relented... actually gave her and hour and a quarter. She didn't show
up. Other brother and SiL said he had to wait... 15, minutes, 30 minutes
after 45 I left and went off on my own. I got back at 6:30, jsut as she
was finally stepping out of her hotel room. She asked where the others
were and I said I thought they had gone for a walk. She went postal,
started yelling at me that we were supposed to wait for her. I looked at
her and said "That was 3-1/2 hours ago."

Some time later she whined to my wife about the incident (my wife had
not been able to go on that trip). SiL's version was "Do you know what
these guys did to me in Paris? We were supposed to go for a walk
together, but when I went down to the lobby to meet them they had
already gone without me." Apparently.... this was something that we
had done to her, and her version skipped over the fact that she had
wasted three days of my time on that trip, and that she had asked us to
wait an hour and then took 3 1/2 hours. As it turned out, she had had a
bath and a nap..... and had the nerve to be ****ed off at us for not
waiting for her......again.

On 4/13/2013 10:10 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
>>> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
>>> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.
>>
>> I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
>> Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If
>> traffic
>> might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that
>> possibility.
>> G.
>
>
> Yes, I leave early too if I think there will be an issue. Then if I
> arrive too early, I just go somewhere close by and have a cup of coffee
> or tea. My MIL was the worst, so we started telling her we would be
> eating an hour earlier than we actually were, and she usually made it by
> the actual eating time. :-)
>
> Cheri

I hate being late and try to plan accordingly. You don't know what
might hold you up, be it traffic, car problems, whatever. But it's
equally annoying if you invite someone over at a specific time and they
show up and hour (or more) early. One of my brothers was notorious for
doing this. Sheesh, I *know* I told you 5:00, why are you here at
3:00?! My other brother and I started telling him to show up at 7:00 if
we really wanted him there at 5:00. LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/13/2013 10:10 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some people are perpetually late for everything they do and I have no
>>>> pity for such people. With a few rare exceptions, there is nothing
>>>> preventing people from arriving on time except their own contempt.
>>>
>>> I completely agree with you. People being late is my biggest pet peeve.
>>> Whenever I tell someone a time, I'm always there 5 minutes early. If
>>> traffic
>>> might be an issue, I'll leave early just to compensate for that
>>> possibility.
>>> G.
>>
>>
>> Yes, I leave early too if I think there will be an issue. Then if I
>> arrive too early, I just go somewhere close by and have a cup of coffee
>> or tea. My MIL was the worst, so we started telling her we would be
>> eating an hour earlier than we actually were, and she usually made it by
>> the actual eating time. :-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I hate being late and try to plan accordingly. You don't know what might
> hold you up, be it traffic, car problems, whatever. But it's equally
> annoying if you invite someone over at a specific time and they show up
> and hour (or more) early. One of my brothers was notorious for doing
> this. Sheesh, I *know* I told you 5:00, why are you here at 3:00?! My
> other brother and I started telling him to show up at 7:00 if we really
> wanted him there at 5:00. LOL
>
> Jill


Yes, I agree. I usuall try to get where I'm going five minutes early, never
more than ten. I guess some people just don't realize the timing and
everything that goes into entertaining.

Cheri