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On 1/31/2013 2:13 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 1/31/2013 1:08 AM, sf wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:54 -0500, Cheryl > >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn. >>>> >>>> It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't >>>> have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are >>>> urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places. >>>> >>>> I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a >>>> 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage >>>> until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours >>>> according to FarmI). >>>> >>>> Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where >>>> that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups >>>> again? >>>> >>>> -sw >>>> >>> I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like >>> that other group, I don't want to check there. >> >> I read it here first. Maybe my news server propagates faster than >> yours does. I dunno and I don't care. >> > Huh? Nevermind sweetie. I misread your reply. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:22:51 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote: > On 1/31/2013 2:13 AM, Cheryl wrote: > > On 1/31/2013 1:08 AM, sf wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:54 -0500, Cheryl > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn. > >>>> > >>>> It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't > >>>> have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are > >>>> urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places. > >>>> > >>>> I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a > >>>> 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage > >>>> until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours > >>>> according to FarmI). > >>>> > >>>> Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where > >>>> that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups > >>>> again? > >>>> > >>>> -sw > >>>> > >>> I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like > >>> that other group, I don't want to check there. > >> > >> I read it here first. Maybe my news server propagates faster than > >> yours does. I dunno and I don't care. > >> > > Huh? > > Nevermind sweetie. I misread your reply. :) -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 1/31/2013 1:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:34:40 -0800, gtr > wrote: >> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: >>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >>>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >>>> >>>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >>>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >>>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >>>> >>>> Well this has all been mighty informative! >>> >>> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >>> bathrooms"? >> >> NO! I just want oughta here! > > It's pretty obvious which aren't bathrooms. They're the ones that are > just glorified outhouses - if they're that fancy and I refuse to use > them, because I never have to go *that* badly. > In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a bath in it. |
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On 1/31/2013 1:15 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:37:34 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at >>>>> Howard Johnson's. >>>> >>>> I didn't know those were still in business! >>>> >>> >>> There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but >>> they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a >>> special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed, >>> Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter. >> >> I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My dad >> said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else. >> > Your dad wouldn't eat at Howard Johnson's because the *prices* were > "too high"? Now I've heard everything. "You hear that Elizabeth? I'm > coming to join you honey!" > LOL My father was frugal and even *he* didn't think HoJo's was expensive. We only ate there, never stayed at the hotel. He always found a cheaper motel. This was in the 1960's when they went to great pains to point out if they had *Air Conditioning* and *TV*! The only thing my brothers and I cared about was "do they have a pool?" :) Jill |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:21:11 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: > This was in the 1960's when they went to great > pains to point out if they had *Air Conditioning* and *TV*! The only > thing my brothers and I cared about was "do they have a pool?" :) That was my sister and me too. We wanted a pool, the rest didn't matter. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 1/31/2013 1:15 AM, sf wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:37:34 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> "sf" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at >>>>>> Howard Johnson's. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't know those were still in business! >>>>> >>>> >>>> There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but >>>> they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a >>>> special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed, >>>> Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter. >>> >>> I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My dad >>> said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else. >>> >> Your dad wouldn't eat at Howard Johnson's because the *prices* were >> "too high"? Now I've heard everything. "You hear that Elizabeth? I'm >> coming to join you honey!" >> > LOL My father was frugal and even *he* didn't think HoJo's was expensive. > We only ate there, never stayed at the hotel. He always found a cheaper > motel. This was in the 1960's when they went to great pains to point out > if they had *Air Conditioning* and *TV*! The only thing my brothers and I > cared about was "do they have a pool?" :) We mostly camped or stayed at Motel 6. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:28:15 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: > > > In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a bath in it. I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good measure. Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a **** or went for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet what it is: a toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies room or the john when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa used to say he was going to see a man about a horse, but nobody talks like that anymore. Much of the world doesn't have anything near the size or complexity of our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that would be used to house multiple people in some countries. I've seen bathrooms where the only real convenience was a not very nice flushing toilet. They are the size of a broom closet with the toilet, a largish galvanized bucket with a hose where they washed - some of fancier ones also had a very sorry looking old fashioned washer. Clothes were dried outside on lines. Kitchens weren't any better. It was really disgusting to me, but that's how they have to live. HGTV House Hunters International is a good one for bringing Americans up to speed with what kitchens and baths in the rest of the world look like. Unless it is a super expensive home that emulates American tastes, their kitchens and baths are not up to American standards. I look at them and wonder how people can stand having a washer and dryer in an already small bathroom or how can they actually cook with two tiny burners/hobs and prepare/clean up with that tiny round sink and no dishwasher... and often no oven at all. In fact, we stayed with Dutch friends once who had a fancy American style kitchen... but their dishwasher and oven were used for storage, not cooking. I thought it was just a Chinese/Asian trait until I saw that. You can lead a horse to water.... -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30:34 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > > long distance travel/ wild places :-) > Back in the old days of alt.punk, I had a few British acquaintances whom I communicated privately off NG. I told them that if they could afford it, they should really visit the USA some time when the currency fluctuations made it economical. You can fly nonstop, round trip from Gatwick to Las Vegas for under $1000. From there, you could rent a car and see the American Southwest/West, avoiding cities with populations above 100,00 or so. The American Southwest is the most geologically unique part of N. America, and a plus is that the food in even the cheap, dive restaurants tends to be good. My wife is saving for a trip to France in a few years. Hopefully by then I can get myself psyched to fly, but if I do go, I'll want to get the heck out of Paris ASAP, and if I visited England, it wouldn't be London. > > Janet UK --Bryan |
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sqwish wrote:
> > http://i49.tinypic.com/ke7ki0.jpg > > That's some pretty tight jeans you're wearing for ~1970, pretty boy. You need to visit your eye doctor. |
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On 1/31/2013 10:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 1/31/2013 1:15 AM, sf wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:37:34 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter at >>>>>>> Howard Johnson's. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't know those were still in business! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, but >>>>> they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a >>>>> special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed, >>>>> Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter. >>>> >>>> I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My dad >>>> said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else. >>>> >>> Your dad wouldn't eat at Howard Johnson's because the *prices* were >>> "too high"? Now I've heard everything. "You hear that Elizabeth? I'm >>> coming to join you honey!" >>> >> LOL My father was frugal and even *he* didn't think HoJo's was expensive. >> We only ate there, never stayed at the hotel. He always found a cheaper >> motel. This was in the 1960's when they went to great pains to point out >> if they had *Air Conditioning* and *TV*! The only thing my brothers and I >> cared about was "do they have a pool?" :) > > We mostly camped or stayed at Motel 6. > > I don't recall a Motel 6 in the 1960's but then I wasn't paying attention to the name of the motel. I do recall the places we stayed in were mom & pop type motels. Two double beds and they had to bring in a folding cot for me to sleep on. We never camped or stayed in a campground. We were in a station wagon with a luggage rack on the roof. I remember one time the luggage came undone from the straps or rope or whatever (doubt it was bungee cords). The luggage went flying off the roof of the car onto the two-lane highway. I guess it wasn't gorilla-tested Samsonite luggage. As a family we drove across the US from one coast to another then back again. Of course it was several years apart. We had different experiences (and restaurant and motel choices) each time. Jill |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> In article >, times says... > > > > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > long distance travel/ wild places :-) > > Janet UK I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:37:23 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote: > Hopefully by then I can get myself psyched to fly, Treat yourself and make it a trans Atlantic cruise. > but if I do go, I'll want to get the heck out of Paris ASAP, and if I visited England, it wouldn't be London. > > There's plenty to choose from, but London is a must do at least once AFAIC. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 1/31/2013 11:03 AM, sf wrote:
> I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from > the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good measure. > Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a **** or went > for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet what it is: a > toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies room or the john > when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa used to say he was > going to see a man about a horse, but nobody talks like that anymore. > > Much of the world doesn't have anything near the size or complexity of > our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that > would be used to house multiple people in some countries. HGTV is not indicative of a classic American bathroom. Those people have more money than sense. Or they have no money but expect to be able to buy what they've seen on television. Heh. Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much time does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I don't know about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. Jill |
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On 2013-01-31 15:32:35 +0000, Janet said:
>>>>>> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong area, >>>>>> I guess. >> >> LOL, Yes, gtr did do a very quick change in wording from 'wrong' to >> 'different' once it was applied to him/her. > > Some folks just don't think it's at all funny to mock them. If you can find that one line jihad-worthy, you must be desperate for drama in your lives. I'm glad I could help. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:33:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: > Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much time > does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I don't know > about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. That's pretty much my attitude too. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 31/01/2013 12:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > >> In article >, times says... >>> >> >> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of >> long distance travel/ wild places :-) >> >> Janet UK > > I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address on Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town that my grandmother was from. He didn't think it was close, saying that it was 50 miles and would take 2-3 hours to get there from his place. We have patches of almost uninhabited land larger than the UK. We have only three provinces that are smaller than the UK, the next smallest being almost three times larger,a province that is 10 times larger than it, and a territory that is more than 15 times larger. Lots of vast empty spaces. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:57:18 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 31/01/2013 12:30 PM, sf wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > > > >> In article >, times says... > >>> > >> > >> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > >> long distance travel/ wild places :-) > >> > >> Janet UK > > > > I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is > > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > > > > I occasionally here from a fellow in the UK. After looking at address > on Google Maps I commented that he was close to the town that my > grandmother was from. He didn't think it was close, saying that it was > 50 miles and would take 2-3 hours to get there from his place. > Riding a bike? > We have patches of almost uninhabited land larger than the UK. We have > only three provinces that are smaller than the UK, the next smallest > being almost three times larger,a province that is 10 times larger than > it, and a territory that is more than 15 times larger. > Lots of vast empty spaces. Canada has huge provinces and lots of wilderness, that's for sure! -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:46:10 -0000, Janet > wrote:
> In article >, > says... > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > > > > > In article >, times says... > > > > > > > > > > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > > > long distance travel/ wild places :-) > > > > > > Janet UK > > > > I think that's your own prejudice. > > The facts remain that England is > > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > The size of Britain bears absolutely no relation to what Brits mean > by long distance travel. > Maybe you didn't read Dave's reply. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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Jill wrote:
> Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much time > does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I don't know > about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. Many people who actually bathe in the bathroom *do* hang out there relaxing in the tub. Just because you don't hang out there doesn't mean you have to grimly go about your business and get out as quickly as possible. The bathroom in the room where I first stayed in the Bellagio was frickin' opulent. And the bathrooms at the Harris Ranch hotel are surprisingly well-outfitted, having exceptional water pressure in the showers and towels with exactly the right balance between rough and absorbent. Bob |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > LOL My father was frugal and even *he* didn't think HoJo's was > expensive. We only ate there, I haven't eaten there since I was a young kid. One of my aunts loved the place so we went there anytime we were visiting her. It's been so long but my lasting memory is that the food tasted kind of sterile. It wasn't bad but it wasn't all that good either. Gary |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33:07 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:37:23 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > > wrote: > > > > > Hopefully by then I can get myself psyched to fly, > > > > Treat yourself and make it a trans Atlantic cruise. > Expensive, and I couldn't take off enough weeks in a row. > > > but if I do go, I'll want to get the heck out of Paris ASAP, and if I visited England, it wouldn't be London. > > > > > > There's plenty to choose from, but London is a must do at least once > > AFAIC. > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) --Bryan |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:30:19 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > >> In article >, times says... >> > >> >> and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of >> long distance travel/ wild places :-) >> >> Janet UK > >I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that my ass is >50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state >here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php So one could save a trip to the grand canyon by viewing sf's ass crack! LOL |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:38:47 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote: > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) It's more than that... there's real history too. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 31/01/2013 2:46 PM, Janet wrote:
> The facts remain that England is >> only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state >> here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php >> Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear >> miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > > The size of Britain bears absolutely no relation to what Brits mean > by long distance travel. > > If the size of Britain bears no relation to what Brits mean by long distance travel..... what do they consider long distance travel to be? I can dive for a day and a half without to get out of my province, or I can go in a different direction and be in another country in 20 minutes. I have travelled in Europe and been in four different countries in a day. It would take 2-3 days of driving to get to a second one. I understand that European air travel is relatively cheap and that they are a lot of people flying various other European countries for travel. There are a lot of North Americans flying around, many of them flying greater distances, but remaining within their own country or its neighbour. |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:30:19 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:30:34 -0000, Janet > wrote: > > > > > In article >, times says... > > > > > > > > > > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > > > long distance travel/ wild places :-) > > > > > > Janet UK > > > > I think that's your own prejudice. The facts remain that England is > > only 50,350 sq miles, which would be a run of the mill mid-sized state > > here and we have 49 more of them http://www.theus50.com/area.php > > Additionally, the distance from London to Rome is only 889.34 linear > > miles and the distance between coasts here is a bit over 2,000. > Miami to Seattle is 3,352 driving miles, according to Google Maps. --Bryan |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:28:15 -0500, S Viemeister > > wrote: >> > >> In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a bath in >> it. > > I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from > the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good measure. > Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a **** or went > for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet what it is: a > toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies room or the john > when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa used to say he was > going to see a man about a horse, but nobody talks like that anymore. > > Much of the world doesn't have anything near the size or complexity of > our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that > would be used to house multiple people in some countries. I've seen > bathrooms where the only real convenience was a not very nice flushing > toilet. They are the size of a broom closet with the toilet, a > largish galvanized bucket with a hose where they washed - some of > fancier ones also had a very sorry looking old fashioned washer. > Clothes were dried outside on lines. Kitchens weren't any better. It > was really disgusting to me, but that's how they have to live. > > HGTV House Hunters International is a good one for bringing Americans > up to speed with what kitchens and baths in the rest of the world look > like. Unless it is a super expensive home that emulates American > tastes, their kitchens and baths are not up to American standards. I > look at them and wonder how people can stand having a washer and dryer > in an already small bathroom or how can they actually cook with two > tiny burners/hobs and prepare/clean up with that tiny round sink and > no dishwasher... and often no oven at all. In fact, we stayed with > Dutch friends once who had a fancy American style kitchen... but their > dishwasher and oven were used for storage, not cooking. I thought it > was just a Chinese/Asian trait until I saw that. You can lead a horse > to water.... Having a really small bathroom doesn't bother me. The houses I grew up in had them. But the main house that I grew up in also had an insane amount of storage space in it. We had a huge linen closet right outside of the bathroom. That spoiled me. What gets me on some of those shows is the tiny kitchens in some other countries. Yes, I can and have made do with a tiny kitchen but... They will have so few cupboards in them that they would never do for me. And a tiny fridge. Yes, I know that in some areas it is typical to do the grocery shopping not only every day but sometimes for every meal. I just don't have time for that. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 1/31/2013 11:03 AM, sf wrote: >> I guess using modest euphemisms in polite society is a holdover from >> the Victorian age with a bit of Puritanism thrown in for good measure. >> Otherwise, we'd be more explicit and just say we took a **** or went >> for a dump. Mostly people call using a public toilet what it is: a >> toilet. Alternatively, they also call it the ladies room or the john >> when they aren't calling it a bathroom. Grandpa used to say he was >> going to see a man about a horse, but nobody talks like that anymore. >> >> Much of the world doesn't have anything near the size or complexity of >> our bathrooms, some of which are the size of small apartment that >> would be used to house multiple people in some countries. > > HGTV is not indicative of a classic American bathroom. Those people have > more money than sense. Or they have no money but expect to be able to buy > what they've seen on television. Heh. > > Common sense: A small bathroom is less bathroom to clean. How much time > does a person actually spend in the bathroom every day? I don't know > about anyone else but I don't hang out in the bathroom. I have a stupidly huge bathroom now. But it's a very poor design. There are two sinks but they placed the free standing shower so close to the second sink that you almost have to shimmy along that wall to get to it. Because of that, we not only rarely use that sink but also the cabinet underneath it. Plus it is really difficult to get into that cabinet because you can't fully open the doors. To get to what's down there can sometimes involve using a reaching tool and a flashlight. I did use the tub when we first moved in. It's a huge, jetted one. But... The water heater we have isn't big enough to provide enough hot water to fill the thing. So you'd have to choose between a hot bath with no jets or a warm one with. Plus it has so many varying levels and textures of surfaces along the edge of it. You'd almost need a picture to see what I mean. Very difficult to get out of. There's not a wide enough flat surface there to even sit on to try to swing your legs over. So getting in and out means straddling all of those surfaces which amount to about being a foot thick. After I slipped and fell a few times and so did my daughter, we quit using it for bathing. I tried a wide variety of non-skid products but there was always some drawback to them. I also had to put one over the slippery side of the tub. So now it's only used for hand washing. What a waste! I used to see pictures of huge bathrooms with furniture, TVs and huge potted plants in them with sunken tubs. I used to want one of those. But after this monstrosity of a bathroom now, I don't. Now I wish they had just given me at least a small walk in closet instead. Seeing as how my two small and insufficient closets are right on the other side of the bathroom. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 1/31/2013 10:36 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 1/31/2013 1:15 AM, sf wrote: >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:37:34 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip platter >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> Howard Johnson's. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't know those were still in business! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There aren't any here either. I used to love those clam platters, >>>>>> but >>>>>> they weren't all you can eat at the time. We'd sometimes make a >>>>>> special trip to the east bay just for fried clams. When HJ closed, >>>>>> Spengers put it on their menu - so the trip was shorter. >>>>> >>>>> I've never eaten at one. We did stop into one when I was a kid. My >>>>> dad >>>>> said the prices were too high. We got drinks and went somewhere else. >>>>> >>>> Your dad wouldn't eat at Howard Johnson's because the *prices* were >>>> "too high"? Now I've heard everything. "You hear that Elizabeth? I'm >>>> coming to join you honey!" >>>> >>> LOL My father was frugal and even *he* didn't think HoJo's was >>> expensive. >>> We only ate there, never stayed at the hotel. He always found a cheaper >>> motel. This was in the 1960's when they went to great pains to point >>> out >>> if they had *Air Conditioning* and *TV*! The only thing my brothers and >>> I >>> cared about was "do they have a pool?" :) >> >> We mostly camped or stayed at Motel 6. >> >> > I don't recall a Motel 6 in the 1960's but then I wasn't paying attention > to the name of the motel. I do recall the places we stayed in were mom & > pop type motels. Two double beds and they had to bring in a folding cot > for me to sleep on. > Not sure when those first opened. I know that we stayed in them during the 70's. Prior to staying in those it was a variety of places but usually ones where kids stayed for free. Very rarely did we stay in an actual hotel. We had the two double beds too. My mom and I would sleep in one and my brother and dad in the other. > We never camped or stayed in a campground. We were in a station wagon > with a luggage rack on the roof. I remember one time the luggage came > undone from the straps or rope or whatever (doubt it was bungee cords). > The luggage went flying off the roof of the car onto the two-lane highway. > I guess it wasn't gorilla-tested Samsonite luggage. We just had a car with a car top carrier. My dad at some point bought a horrible pop up tent trailer only it wasn't made of tent fabric but Fiberglass. My mom cooked meals in it. I hated it. Always so dirty inside no matter what we did. Retained the cooking odors from dinner. Uncomfortable beds and so tiny inside. My brother slept in the pullout section and I was beheath him on the dining table which pushed down. The cushions were then laid across it for a bed. He'd always roll out of bed and land on me. We did usually have relatives along the way and would sometimes stay with them. Those trips really put me off of taking vacations and to this day I do not ever desire to go on them. > > As a family we drove across the US from one coast to another then back > again. Of course it was several years apart. We had different > experiences (and restaurant and motel choices) each time. We generally only went to the Midwest because that is where I'm from. But since I got married, we did make cross country moves. I do seem to have a lot higher standards than what my dad had in those days as to what I expected a room to be. Oddly as he got older he did develop much higher standards. For most of our stays after I got married, we stayed in hotels instead of motels. And they had to have at least a 3 star rating in the AAA book. Plus I had a cat by then so they had to take pets. We really didn't stay in too many bad places. But there was one horrible one that I remember. Turns out that the place given the higher rating by AAA was still there but they also bought the motel behind them and that's where they put us. Horrible place. Filthy, bad beds, AC so high up on the wall that we couldn't reach it. And it was in an isolated part of Wyoming. I had tried to talk my husband out of going there, having been through Wyoming many times prior. He'd never been there. The AAA book said it was a ghost town. And by that, they meant there was nothing there. Literally nothing, other than a college and a Hooters. I couldn't even find a convenience store to buy a cold drink because the drink machine at the motel although dispensing, was not cold. And it was during the heat of summer. I think my husband thought that by "ghost town", they meant some sort of old timey Wild West touristy places like we'd been to before. These sorts of places were a tad boring to me, having been to Cow Town in Wichita many, times. But they were a novelty to him and he loves those sorts of places. But this sure wasn't it! On a later move, we did discover Walls or maybe it was Wahls drugs. Now that was a fun place. Huge old timey shopping center. I can't remember buying much there. Maybe a little bit of candy. They had those huge barrels of "penny" candy and some sort of OTC medical thing that I needed. I kept seeing signs for this place and assumed that it was just a drug store. It wasn't. In fact I had a hard time finding the drugstore part but it was there. In the midst of all the clothing, toys, Western boots and hats, saddles, foods, etc. I also think we got some sort of fancy drinks in there for Angela and my husband. Can't even remember now what state it was in but I think it was somewhere between the Midwest and the East Coast. |
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On Jan 31, 12:38*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33:07 AM UTC-6, sf wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:37:23 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > > > wrote: > > > > Hopefully by then I can get myself psyched to fly, > > > Treat yourself and make it a trans Atlantic cruise. > > Expensive, and I couldn't take off enough weeks in a row. > > > > but if I do go, I'll want to get the heck out of Paris ASAP, and if I visited England, it wouldn't be London. > > > There's plenty to choose from, but London is a must do at least once > > > AFAIC. > > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > > --Bryan I think it would be a great place to visit, especially for someone into Punk. |
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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:46 +1100, "Farm1" > > wrote: > >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message >>> Sounds interesting, 80 y/o is pretty old! What is it? >> >>she's actually older than that and she looks like this >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/rosco500/6258640801/ > > Beautiful, love the bodywork. LOL. And guess which dutiful bag carrier gets to rub it down all the time? >>Or have the interest and ability to fettle the sods. Himself can fettle >>quite well whereas I'm not so sure that a QC would be so interested. > > Indeed, don't think fettling is his thing. > Good choice of word there, 'fettle'. Seems very appropriate when > talking about old Pommy cars... you can't ever fix 'em but you sure > can fettle 'em :) 'Fettle' is one of those bog stanadard descriptors used on Rallies. The cars arrive at a motel for the night and all the men put the bonnets up, the overalls on and then they are all amused for hours lookign, fettling and nattering. |
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"Julie Bove" wrote:
> >I did use the tub when we first moved in. It's a huge, jetted one. But... >The water heater we have isn't big enough to provide enough hot water to >fill the thing. So you'd have to choose between a hot bath with no jets or >a warm one with. Was obviously designed for group bathing, the more bodies the less water. |
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merryb wrote:
>Bryan wrote: >> >> I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. > >I think it would be a great place to visit, especially for someone >into Punk. Bwrrrryan is into Crisco. |
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"sf" > wrote in message
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:29:51 +1100, "Farm1" > > wrote: >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:02 +1100, "Farm1" > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> >> ... >> >> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:34:34 +1100, "Farm1" > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> There was a reward. It was to bring back a repaired part for an >> >> >> ancient >> >> >> British sports car. We've did the same trip a couple of months ago >> >> >> to >> >> >> take >> >> >> that part and another part to the repairer and we'll do the same >> >> >> trip >> >> >> again >> >> >> when we go back to pick up the part that is still there and waiting >> >> >> to >> >> >> be >> >> >> repaired. >> >> >> >> >> > Is there a reason why you send it by post, UPS or FedEx? I could >> >> > see >> >> > making the trip to pick up prize livestock, but not a car part. >> >> >> >> It's an irreplaceable part. Without it a $50K car would be useless so >> >> no >> >> car enthusiast would risk losing it or risk or having it damaged by >> >> carriers. The part came back swathed in blankets and very well >> >> padded. >> >> >> >> Every other car enthusiast who uses this repairer also makes the trek >> >> for >> >> the same reasons as we did and often from much further away. >> >> >> > Oh, okay. You hadn't said how old the car was until the last response >> > I read from you. >> >> No, I didn't mention age. His newest one is about 60 whereas all the >> rest >> are even older. >> > You did mention age and the reason why I remembered is that 40 or 50 > years wouldn't have caught my attention. Honestly, I don't care what > the exact number is - but the age (I have no idea what the rarity is) > justified the time and care you took bringing the part to be repaired > and returning it home, JMO. > > See- Message-ID: > > > AFAIC: this is the end of this "discussion". You mis-remembered, > which isn't the end of the world and I'm not playing gotcha. I have > no problem it other than I don't like being told I'm making it up when > I didn't. Oh for Pete's sake! I never said or implied anything about you misremebering anything at all. I didn't mention age in any reply to YOU so as far as I know, you may not have ever seen any age of the car mentioned. But if you want to be all huffy then go right ahead and enjoy it. |
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"sf" > wrote in message
... > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:54 -0500, Cheryl > > wrote: > >> On 1/30/2013 11:13 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:45:12 -0500, Cheryl wrote: >> > >> >> Speaking of driving, this thread sure took a wrong turn. >> > >> > It might have been helpful if FarmI explained that they really don't >> > have any place to get food on most of these trips. Most of us are >> > urban or suburban folks. Who drive to/from urban and suburban places. >> > >> > I'm still trying to figure out how sf knew FarmI was referring to a >> > 1500km trip in 48 hours since FarmI didn't even mention any mileage >> > until a day *after* sf said it (and it was 1500km is *24* hours >> > according to FarmI). >> > >> > Unless that little factoid has spilled over from another group where >> > that was mentioned... Is this being discussed in two different groups >> > again? >> > >> > -sw >> > >> I have no idea. If this thread and a couple of others is anything like >> that other group, I don't want to check there. > > I read it here first. And it's the only place you could have read it. :-)) |
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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013013022344079028-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: > >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >> >>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >>> >>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >>> >>> Well this has all been mighty informative! >> >> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >> bathrooms"? > > NO! I just want oughta here! Surely even on a USian dominated ng, no-one is so hard wired to the use of inaccurate euphemisms that they can't figure out that a bathroom has a shower and a bath and not just a toilet and a washbasin? Oh wait, 2 people already failed to figure that out. |
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"sf" > wrote in message
... > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:34:40 -0800, gtr > wrote: > >> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: >> >> > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >> > >> >> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >> >> >> >>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >> >>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >> >>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >> >> >> >> Well this has all been mighty informative! >> > >> > Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >> > bathrooms"? >> >> NO! I just want oughta here! > > It's pretty obvious which aren't bathrooms. They're the ones that are > just glorified outhouses - if they're that fancy and I refuse to use > them, because I never have to go *that* badly. LOL. You too failed the euphemism test. |
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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
... > On 1/31/2013 1:50 AM, sf wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:34:40 -0800, gtr > wrote: >>> On 2013-01-31 05:08:00 +0000, Sqwertz said: >>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:46:37 -0800, gtr wrote: >>>>> On 2013-01-31 02:03:28 +0000, Farm1 said: >>>>> >>>>>> We regularly stop to use roadside toilets and since these toilets >>>>>> (which aren't bathrooms) are often located in or near parks, we also >>>>>> use the table and seats to stop for drink or food break >>>>> >>>>> Well this has all been mighty informative! >>>> >>>> Aw, come on. You're not going to ask about the "toilets which aren't >>>> bathrooms"? >>> >>> NO! I just want oughta here! >> >> It's pretty obvious which aren't bathrooms. They're the ones that are >> just glorified outhouses - if they're that fancy and I refuse to use >> them, because I never have to go *that* badly. >> > In much of the rest of the world, a "bathroom" is a room with a bath in > it. :-)) It's so obvious that it really shouldn't need to be explained. |
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"Janet" > wrote in message
... > In article >, times says... >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> > In article >, ost >> > says... >> >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:27:58 -0000, Janet wrote: >> >> >> >> > In article <2013013006313411704-xxx@yyyzzz>, says... >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2013-01-30 04:10:25 +0000, Farm1 said: >> >> >> >> >> >>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message >> >> >>> ... >> >> >>>> On 1/29/2013 8:35 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >> >> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:33:39 +1100, Farm1 wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> This basket routine seems to be similarly done amongst other >> >> >>>>>> coutnry people >> >> >>>>>> we know but not something that city people seem to do. Does >> >> >>>>>> anyone else do >> >> >>>>>> this? >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> I take money, which buys me the all you can eat clam strip >> >> >>>>> platter >> >> >>>>> at >> >> >>>>> Howard Johnson's. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> That's why we pack our own... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Indeed! The possibility of being able to buy any decent food on a >> >> >>> long >> >> >>> car trip would be lovely, but I know from experience, it's a >> >> >>> fantasy. >> >> >> >> >> >> No decent food on a road trip? You're driving around the wrong >> >> >> area, >> >> >> I guess. >> >> > >> >> > It's called Australia. Your experience is probably in the wrong >> >> > area. >> >> >> >> So basically she's saying that Australia sucks for food everywhere you >> >> go. >> > >> > Not at all, I've eaten great food in Darwin, Sydney, Cairns, Brisbane. >> > But very little of Australia, is urban. >> > >> > http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g255055- >> > c128307/Australia:Tips.For.Driving.In.Australia.html >> > >> > "Australia is as large as continental USA, but the population is >> > only22.5 million, so the road network is not as well developed, >> > especially away from the coastal areas. There are often very long >> > distances between towns which have fuel, water and/or food." >> >> Shhhhhhhhhhhh! >> >> Reading most of the responses has been simply amazing. Geography and >> passport ownership........... You know that stereotype.............. >> >> Mentions of malls, subways, clam eateries, interstates, truck stops with >> good food and bistros really says it all. > > and yet Americans stereotype Brits as a country with no concept of > long distance travel/ wild places :-) Indeed. |
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:15:25 PM UTC-6, merryb wrote:
> On Jan 31, 12:38*pm, Bryan > wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:33:07 AM UTC-6, sf wrote: > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:37:23 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hopefully by then I can get myself psyched to fly, > > > > > > > Treat yourself and make it a trans Atlantic cruise. > > > > > > Expensive, and I couldn't take off enough weeks in a row. > > > > > > > > but if I do go, I'll want to get the heck out of Paris ASAP, and if I visited England, it wouldn't be London. > > > > > > > There's plenty to choose from, but London is a must do at least once > > > > > > > AFAIC. > > > > > > I figure London is just NYC with Beefeaters. :) > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > I think it would be a great place to visit, especially for someone > > into Punk. You know, The Clash, The Damned and Sex Pistols were a long time ago. NYC was every bit as significant in the Rock'n Roll restoration called, Punk, but I have little interest in going there as well. We do go to Chicago because we love the Art Institute, and the lake, and the civilized public transit system. There is also the appeal of the food, but St. Louis is catching up food-wise. I have a dependable source for salsa here, and I can do the cooking myself. Other than to see art museums, the only other large city I'd like to visit is Washington, and that would be mostly for the Smithsonian. I do live Savannah, Georgia, but not enough that I'd ever go there if they didn't have beaches. Santa Fe, New Mexico is the one small city that I adore. I like living in St. Louis, in spite of the winters. We have a world class symphony orchestra, and have what is, IMO, the best wilderness this side of the Pacific Northwest just a few hours drive away. http://www.ladfoundation.org/pioneer http://www.nps.gov/ozar/index.htm St. Louis is where I live, but I feel most alive in the Missouri Ozarks. --Bryan |
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