On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
>>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>
>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>> even make the connection.
>>
>Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>
>Jill


I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.

I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.

On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
>>>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't interested in
>>>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do have some cast iron
>>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff! I'll never
>>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a couple cast iron
>>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>>
>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>>> even make the connection.
>>>
>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>> planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>
> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
>
>
I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my adult
life. I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed her when I
moved to South Carolina). They weren't necessarily close to the kitchen
but there was a fairly open concept between the kitchen, dining and
their cage Nothing I cooked nor any cookware I ever used harmed them.
My parakeets tended to live to be about 15 years old.

Jill

On 5/10/2021 9:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
>>>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware.Â* I've been
>>>>>> using Revereware for 40 years.Â* I also have my mother's Revereware
>>>>>> that dates back to the 1950's.Â* My brothers weren't interested in
>>>>>> it.Â* I've never had to replace any of it.Â* I do have some cast iron
>>>>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
>>>>>> Revereware works for everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to me.
>>>>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom.Â* Good stuff!Â* I'll never
>>>>> use or own a "non stick" pan again.Â* I do have a couple cast iron
>>>>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle.
>>>>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
>>>>
>>>> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from the
>>>> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower. You won't
>>>> even make the connection.
>>>>
>>> Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck they're
>>> planning to cook) in their kitchen?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
>> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
>> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>>
>> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
>> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
>>
>>
> I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my adult
> life.Â* I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed her when I
> moved to South Carolina).Â* They weren't necessarily close to the kitchen
> but there was a fairly open concept between the kitchen, dining and
> their cageÂ* Nothing I cooked nor any cookware I ever used harmed them.
> My parakeets tended to live to be about 15 years old.
>
> Jill
>

Perhaps you know how to cook. The biggest problems is when the pan is
overheated it can give off fumes. IIRC it is 450 deg. or more. Under
normal circumstances you never get that high.

I understand newer coating can go well above that.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 5/10/2021 9:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/10/2021 8:18 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> > > On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> > > > > Michael Trew wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > > I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware.Â*
> > > > > > > I've been using Revereware for 40 years.Â* I also have my
> > > > > > > mother's Revereware that dates back to the 1950's.Â* My
> > > > > > > brothers weren't interested in it.Â* I've never had to
> > > > > > > replace any of it.Â* I do have some cast iron skillets and
> > > > > > > small non-stick skillets but ultimately the old
> > > > > > > Revereware works for everything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was
> > > > > > given to me. Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom.Â*
> > > > > > Good stuff!Â* I'll never use or own a "non stick" pan
> > > > > > again.Â* I do have a couple cast iron pans that I use, as
> > > > > > well as my grandmother's old aluminum griddle. My antique
> > > > > > stove has a large built-in aluminum griddle as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away
> > > > > from the kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but
> > > > > much slower. You won't even make the connection.
> > > > >
> > > > Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or
> > > > duck they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> > > I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the
> > > kitchen and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago
> > > various They have all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
> > >
> > > I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from
> > > non-stick cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.
> > >
> > >
> > I grew up with parakeets as pets and had parakeets nearly all my
> > adult life.Â* I had a Fischer lovebird named Peaches (I remhomed
> > her when I moved to South Carolina).Â* They weren't necessarily
> > close to the kitchen but there was a fairly open concept between
> > the kitchen, dining and their cageÂ* Nothing I cooked nor any
> > cookware I ever used harmed them. My parakeets tended to live to
> > be about 15 years old.
> >
> > Jill
> >
>
> Perhaps you know how to cook. The biggest problems is when the pan
> is overheated it can give off fumes. IIRC it is 450 deg. or more.
> Under normal circumstances you never get that high.
>
> I understand newer coating can go well above that.

There's a lot of uncertainty about "newer coating" because
manufacturers aren't telling us everything. They don't want to worry
the sheeple.

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Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:53:48 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 5/10/2021 12:44 AM, Joie MacDonalds wrote:
> >> Michael Trew wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 5/8/2021 1:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>> I would never ever be jealous over a set of cookware. I've been
> >>>> using Revereware for 40 years. I also have my mother's
> Revereware >>>> that dates back to the 1950's. My brothers weren't
> interested in >>>> it. I've never had to replace any of it. I do
> have some cast iron >>>> skillets and small non-stick skillets but
> ultimately the old >>>> Revereware works for everything.
> > > > >
> >>>> Jill
> > > >
> >>> Yep, I have a good bit of stainless Reverware that was given to
> me. >>> Most of it is pre-1968 marked on the bottom. Good stuff!
> I'll never >>> use or own a "non stick" pan again. I do have a
> couple cast iron >>> pans that I use, as well as my grandmother's old
> aluminum griddle. >>> My antique stove has a large built-in aluminum
> griddle as well. >>
> >> And to those who do use non-stick pans: keep any birds away from
> the >> kitchen, it kills them! It kills people too, but much slower.
> You won't >> even make the connection.
> >>
> > Why would anyone have birds (other than the dead chicken or duck
> > they're planning to cook) in their kitchen?
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> I have kept my keets and lovebirds in the archway between the kitchen
> and the dining room even since we moved 30 years ago various They have
> all had normal lifespans of about 10-15+ years.
>
> I have set off more than a few smoke alarms - sometimes from non-stick
> cooking during that time - but never harmed a bird.

Maybe there was enough ventilation or enough distance. Here's a Google
search:

<https://www.google.com/search?q=non+stick+pans+birds>

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