I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from most
important to least important. Am I missing anything?

Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
No cheese on fish
Don't brake the spaghetti
Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Christopher M. wrote:

> Don't brake the spaghetti

But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a down
hill.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Christopher M. wrote:
>
>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>
> But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a down
> hill.
>
> -S-

I guess that's one way of looking at it.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Christopher M. wrote:
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Christopher M. wrote:
>>
>>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>>
>> But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a
>> down hill.
>>
>> -S-
>
> I guess that's one way of looking at it.
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

You do get that I was just trying to point out a spelling error, I hope
....

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Christopher M. wrote:
>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Christopher M. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>>>
>>> But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a
>>> down hill.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>
>> I guess that's one way of looking at it.
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
> You do get that I was just trying to point out a spelling error, I hope
> ...
>
> -S-

Yeah. Good to know.

English is one ****ed up language.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

In article >,
says...
>
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Christopher M. wrote:
> >> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Christopher M. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Don't brake the spaghetti
> >>>
> >>> But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a
> >>> down hill.
> >>>
> >>> -S-
> >>
> >> I guess that's one way of looking at it.
> >>
> >>
> >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
> >
> > You do get that I was just trying to point out a spelling error, I hope
> > ...
> >
> > -S-
>
> Yeah. Good to know.
>
> English is one ****ed up language.
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

English isn't ****ed up, it's just a language that borrows from German,
Latin, French, and increasingly Spanish.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:41:27 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

> Christopher M. wrote:
>
> > Don't brake the spaghetti
>
> But if you don't, you'll have run-away spaghetti, especially on a down
> hill.
>
If you don't brake it, at least curb your wheels!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >,
says...
>
> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from most
> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>
> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
> No cheese on fish
> Don't brake the spaghetti
> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a crusty
piece of bread is great!

"T" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from
>> most
>> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>>
>> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
>> No cheese on fish
>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
>> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
> You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a crusty
> piece of bread is great!

I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.

Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
south.

Everyone's in the mob though.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
...
>
> "T" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from
>>> most
>>> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>>>
>>> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
>>> No cheese on fish
>>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>>> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
>>> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>>> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)
>>>
>>>
>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>
>> You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a crusty
>> piece of bread is great!
>
> I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.
>
> Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
> south.


everyone in Italy eats and uses olive oil. a lot. But they do use butter
and cream
more in cooking in the north, too.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "T" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from
>>>> most
>>>> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>>>>
>>>> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
>>>> No cheese on fish
>>>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>>>> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
>>>> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>>>> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>>
>>> You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a crusty
>>> piece of bread is great!
>>
>> I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.
>>
>> Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
>> south.
>
>
> everyone in Italy eats and uses olive oil. a lot. But they do use butter
> and cream
> more in cooking in the north, too.

Right. Just like in Austria.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:59:22 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:



>
>Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
>south.

What did you really mean to say? According to what you wrote, in the
south they would make a sandwich with two pieces of olive oil instead
of bread?

Or was butter supposed to be in the first part of the sentence?

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:59:22 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
>>south.
>
> What did you really mean to say? According to what you wrote, in the
> south they would make a sandwich with two pieces of olive oil instead
> of bread?
>
> Or was butter supposed to be in the first part of the sentence?

Well, traditionally, people in the south , along the mediterannean, would
eat more olive oil because that's where the olives were.

And people in the north would eat more butter.

Also, they would eat more bread in the north, and pasta in the south.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Apr 1, 1:59*am, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> "T" > wrote in message
>

>
> > You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a crusty
> > piece of bread is great!
>
> I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.
>
> Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more in the
> south.
>
> Everyone's in the mob though.


Do you really believe that? Bread is eaten by everybody even more
than pasta. My neighbor has an afternoon snack everyday (from lunch
at 1 to supper at 8 is a long time) of a slice of bread with oil on
it. She would never eat that at a meal, however.

Giusi wrote:
> On Apr 1, 1:59 am, "Christopher M." > wrote:
>> "T" > wrote in message
>>
>
>>
>>> You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a
>>> crusty piece of bread is great!
>>
>> I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.
>>
>> Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more
>> in the south.
>>
>> Everyone's in the mob though.
>
>
> Do you really believe that? Bread is eaten by everybody even more
> than pasta. My neighbor has an afternoon snack everyday (from lunch
> at 1 to supper at 8 is a long time) of a slice of bread with oil on
> it. She would never eat that at a meal, however.

Well, garlic bread is pretty gosh darn popular in Italy.

It's interesting that your neighbor wouldn't eat a slice of bread at a meal.

At home I'd never eat bread with pasta. I would in a restaurant though,
because it's "free".


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Christopher M. wrote:

> garlic bread is pretty gosh darn popular in Italy.

I'll bet no Italian would even think of having garlic bread at the
same time as pasta.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:44:23 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

> Well, garlic bread is pretty gosh darn popular in Italy.

Not in my (limited) experience.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Apr 3, 3:44*am, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> Giusi wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 1:59 am, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> >> "T" > wrote in message
>
> >>> You can break that last rule with good olive oil. A little on a
> >>> crusty piece of bread is great!
>
> >> I agree. But many Italians would disagree with you.
>
> >> Bread in Italy is eaten more in the north. Olive oil is eaten more
> >> in the south.
>
> >> Everyone's in the mob though.
>
> > Do you really believe that? *Bread is eaten by everybody even more
> > than pasta. *My neighbor has an afternoon snack everyday (from lunch
> > at 1 to supper at 8 is a long time) of a slice of bread with oil on
> > it. *She would never eat that at a meal, however.
>
> Well, garlic bread is pretty gosh darn popular in Italy.
>
> It's interesting that your neighbor wouldn't eat a slice of bread at a meal.
>
> At home I'd never eat bread with pasta. I would in a restaurant though,
> because it's "free".
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

She does eat bread at meals, but not with oil on it. Garlic bread is
unknown in Italy. Bruschetta is the closest there is.

On 2012-03-31, Christopher M. > wrote:

> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner

Nonsense. Pizza is good, anytime. Breakfast, lunch, supper, late
night snack, picnic, ballgame, rock concert, opera?, movie show, road
trip, on a train, white water rafting, riding a motorcycle, fishing....

I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.

nb

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"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2012-03-31, Christopher M. > wrote:
>
>> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>
> Nonsense. Pizza is good, anytime. Breakfast, lunch, supper, late
> night snack, picnic, ballgame, rock concert, opera?, movie show, road
> trip, on a train, white water rafting, riding a motorcycle, fishing....
>
> I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
>
> nb

Well, it is street food in some places.

I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Christopher M. wrote:

> > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.

> Well, it is street food in some places.
> I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.

Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
pizza.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Christopher M. wrote:
>
>> > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
>
>> Well, it is street food in some places.
>> I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.
>
> Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
> pizza.

From what I've heard, tomato sauce is the exception, not the rule, in Italy.
The best pizza in the world comes from Italy, of course.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Christopher M." wrote:
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Christopher M. wrote:
> >
> >> > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
> >
> >> Well, it is street food in some places.
> >> I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.
> >
> > Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
> > pizza.
>
> From what I've heard, tomato sauce is the exception, not the rule, in Italy.
> The best pizza in the world comes from Italy, of course.

Don't know about that...maybe...but I've had some darn good ones that would
hard to beat.

Gary :-o

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:04:00 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>
>"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Christopher M. wrote:
>>
>>> > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
>>
>>> Well, it is street food in some places.
>>> I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.
>>
>> Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
>> pizza.
>
>From what I've heard, tomato sauce is the exception, not the rule, in Italy.
>The best pizza in the world comes from Italy, of course.

Not true at all. There's nothing special about pizza in Italy, I
found it disappointing... it's ordinary crust and very skimpy on the
topping... some of the frozen pizza in the US is better. I've eaten
pizza all over the US and very few areas make passable pizza... once
one has experienced pizza in NYC they're spoiled for life.... and even
in NYC the best pizza is in Brooklyn. And Chicago deep dish is okay
if one likes dining on a tub of sow slop... I really can't classify
that as pizza.

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Christopher M. wrote:
>
> > > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
>
> > Well, it is street food in some places.
> > I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.
>
> Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
> pizza.

My daughter had pizza for breakfast most of her school years. That's all
she wanted. I figured it's healthy enough and better than nothing so that's
what she got.

Gary

On 2012-04-01, Gary > wrote:

> My daughter had pizza for breakfast most of her school years. That's all
> she wanted. I figured it's healthy enough and better than nothing so that's
> what she got.

Anytime I have pizza at night, there's always some left over. Cold
pizza fer breakfast is mandatory. If pizza isn't still tasty after
becoming cold and drying out a bit, it's not good pizza.

nb

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Gary wrote:

> > > > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
> >
> > > Well, it is street food in some places.
> > > I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.
> >
> > Personally, I can't handle tomato sauce for breakfast. Maybe white
> > pizza.
>
> My daughter had pizza for breakfast most of her school years. That's all
> she wanted. I figured it's healthy enough and better than nothing so that's
> what she got.

Don't tell me -- you voted for Herman Cain. Right?

On Mar 31, 8:50*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 2012-03-31, Christopher M. > wrote:
>
> >> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>
> > Nonsense. *Pizza is good, anytime. *Breakfast, lunch, supper, late
> > night snack, picnic, ballgame, rock concert, opera?, movie show, road
> > trip, on a train, white water rafting, riding a motorcycle, fishing....
>
> > I can't think of a single moment when a pizza is unwelcome.
>
> > nb
>
> Well, it is street food in some places.
>
> I guess you're right, don't-call-me-bob.

Christopher M. is such an idiot, one wonders if he is really a sock of
someone like Andy or Stu.
Either that or he's a young teenager.
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

--Bryan

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On 3/31/12 11:59 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from most
> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>
> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
> No cheese on fish
> Don't brake the spaghetti

Don't break it either.

> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash

New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
talking about.

> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)

Northern Italians use butter (since they have more cows) whereas
southern Italians used more oil since olives were more in abundance.

Then there was my grandmother's rule of "no drinking of milk while
eating pomodoro sauce!"

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
> talking about.

There are thirty people coming to our dinner party. I've made ravioli.
It looks like each person gets a raviolo as an appetizer.
[I had to look it up and learn something every day]

leo

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Goomba > wrote:
>
>> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
>> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
>> talking about.
>
> There are thirty people coming to our dinner party. I've made ravioli.
> It looks like each person gets a raviolo as an appetizer.
> [I had to look it up and learn something every day]
>
> leo

If any of them is an Italian and you give him ONE raveur, I hope he can
contain his laughter and/or his anger.

On Apr 1, 7:13*am, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
> "Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>

> > There are thirty people coming to our dinner party. I've made ravioli.
> > It looks like each person gets a raviolo as an appetizer.
> > [I had to look it up and learn something every day]
>
> > leo
>
> If any of them is an Italian and you give him ONE raveur, I hope he can
> contain his laughter and/or his anger.

I know a Sardegnan chef who makes one gigantic raviolone and serves it
up asd a first course.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/31/12 11:59 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
>> I made a list of some Italian cooking guidelines I've come across, from
>> most
>> important to least important. Am I missing anything?
>>
>> Never, ever, burn the garlic (most important)
>> No cheese on fish
>> Don't brake the spaghetti
>
> Don't break it either.
>
>> Use water to seal raviolis, not egg wash
>
> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
> talking about.

Don't be ridiculous.

>> Pizza is not a snack. Save pizza for dinner
>> Butter is for bread. Oil is for everything else. (least important)
>
> Northern Italians use butter (since they have more cows) whereas southern
> Italians used more oil since olives were more in abundance.
>
> Then there was my grandmother's rule of "no drinking of milk while eating
> pomodoro sauce!"

But it's okay to eat mashed potatoes with tomato sauce.

They also seem to use a lot of orange and lemon rind in their cooking in
Italy.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:09:34 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:


>> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
>> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
>> talking about.
>
>Don't be ridiculous.

Singular is raviolo.

Raviolis is like saying pork chopses.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> >> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
> >> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
> >> talking about.
> >
> >Don't be ridiculous.
>
> Singular is raviolo.
> Raviolis is like saying pork chopses.

The mother of a friend of mine says "pass-ta". Grating!

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:40:44 -0400, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> >> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to add
>> >> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
>> >> talking about.
>> >
>> >Don't be ridiculous.
>>
>> Singular is raviolo.
>> Raviolis is like saying pork chopses.
>
>The mother of a friend of mine says "pass-ta". Grating!

Must be a Brit. Does she put or-e-GON-o on it?

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> >> New (old really) rule- ravioli is already plural. Lose any desire to
>> >> add
>> >> an "s" to the word if you want people to think you know what you're
>> >> talking about.
>> >
>> >Don't be ridiculous.
>>
>> Singular is raviolo.
>> Raviolis is like saying pork chopses.
>
> The mother of a friend of mine says "pass-ta". Grating!

I used to know someone who said orah-gano.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

A question for the italians in the crowd-I love cream horns but hate the
commercial cream filling in them-yet I love the delicate crisp flaky
pastry horn.

So yesterday I purchased a cannoli. Fantastic cream filling. The "tube"
if you will, had each end coated in dark chocolate before they filled
the tube. So far so good.

I hated the tube. It was a dense cookie-like substance that crumbled
when you try to take a bite and made for such an unpleasant chew that
you couldnt enjoy the other excellent ingredients.

Is that what cannoli is like in Italy? If so, you should reinvent it and
borrow from the scandinavians who know how to do pastry.

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:57:16 -0500, (z z) wrote:



>I hated the tube. It was a dense cookie-like substance that crumbled
>when you try to take a bite and made for such an unpleasant chew that
>you couldnt enjoy the other excellent ingredients.
>
>Is that what cannoli is like in Italy? If so, you should reinvent it and
>borrow from the scandinavians who know how to do pastry.

Nothing I'd describe as "cookie like" in the US or in Italy. It is a
crispy fried dough.

Make dough for shells:
Whisk together flour, sugar, cocoa, cinnamon, salt, and baking soda.
Add 2 tablespoons lard and blend in with your fingertips until
combined. Add wine and yolk and stir until a dough forms.

Make shells:
Set smooth rollers of pasta maker at widest setting. Unwrap dough and
cut in half, then lightly flour 1 piece (keep remaining half covered
with plastic wrap). Flatten floured dough into an oval and feed
through rollers. Turn dial down 2 notches and feed dough through
rollers again. Continue to feed dough through rollers, making space
between rollers narrower by 2 notches each time, until narrowest
setting is used.

Line a baking sheet with plastic wrap. Transfer rolled dough to a
lightly floured surface and cut out 4 or 5 rounds with floured cutter.
Transfer rounds to baking sheet and keep covered with more plastic
wrap. Roll out remaining dough and cut rounds in same manner. Gather
scraps and let stand 10 minutes. Roll out scraps and cut in same
manner.

Heat remaining lard with 1 1/4 inches oil in a 4-quart heavy pot over
moderate heat until it registers 350°F on thermometer.

Meanwhile, lightly oil cannoli tubes. Lightly beat egg white, then
brush bottom edge of 1 dough round with egg white. Wrap dough around a
tube, overlapping ends (egg-white edge should go on top), then press
edges together to seal. Make 5 more shells in same manner (keep
remaining rounds covered with plastic).

Fry dough on tubes 1 at a time, turning with metal tongs, until 1
shade darker, about 45 seconds. Wearing oven mitts, clamp end of hot
tubes, 1 at a time, with tongs and, holding tube vertically, allow
shell to slide off tube onto paper towels, gently shaking tube and
wiggling shell as needed to loosen. (If you allow shell to cool it
will stick to tube and shatter when you try to remove it.) Transfer
shells to paper towels to drain and cool tubes before reusing. Wrap
remaining dough around tubes and fry in same manner.


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