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Emrys Davies 22-01-2012 06:30 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking

or

absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking

I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
the best product.


John Kuthe[_3_] 22-01-2012 06:34 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Jan 22, 12:30*pm, "Emrys Davies" > wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method *- involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
> the best product.


I don't rinse or soak my brown rice before cooking. I just bring the
water/butter/salt to a high boil, dump the rice in, turn down to LOW
on my gas stove, cover and it takes about an hour for all the water to
be absorbed (2+ to 1 water to rice, by volume.)

John Kuthe...

dsi1[_17_] 22-01-2012 06:38 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Jan 22, 8:30*am, "Emrys Davies" > wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method *- involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
> the best product.


You should save yourself a lot of trouble and get a small, cheap,
automatic rice cooker. I have heard that some people will cook rice
like pasta. That's probably the easiest way to cook rice. Use a long
grain rice and you'll get a plate of rice with each grain separate
which, I suppose, the casual rice eater would consider ideal.

John Kuthe[_2_] 22-01-2012 06:43 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:30:25 -0000, "Emrys Davies" >
wrote:

>Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
>or
>
>absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
>I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
>the best product.


GoogleGroups is sucking again this AM (now PM) so we'll all see this
response twice, *eventually*!

I don't rinse or soak my brown rice. I justg bring the
water/butter/salt to a high rolling boil, dump in the rice, cover and
turn my gas stove down to low and simmer about an hour for all the
water to be absorbed (2+ to 1 water to rice, by volume.)

Perfect every time!

John Kuthe...

sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 07:24 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:30:25 -0000, "Emrys Davies" >
wrote:

> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
> the best product.


Both, if you do it right. If I didn't eat very much rice, I'd stick
with boil, strain, steam.... but I've had a rice maker ever since I
got married and use that to make rice. I don't do the type of cooking
that requires soaking it, I don't even rinse it anymore. Modern rice
is clean and I want the starch, because I prefer sticky rice. Sounds
like you're predisposed to using long grain, so I won't be a good
resource for you.

Doing it right means first of all deciding how "fluffy" you like it
and hitting it every time. People also prefer certain types of rice
over others. I've noticed that people who prefer white meat on
chicken and turkey also prefer white, long grained rice and they
probably use the full measure of water if they use the absorption
method.

I prefer my rice more toothy and sticky, so I don't use the entire
recommended amount of water when I cook white rice. Medium grain is
my default - but I also like short grain and would use it more if it
wasn't a specialty rice and expensive. Long grain is at the bottom of
my "rice I like" list... in fact, I don't like it.

We're switching over to brown rice now, so I have another learning
curve.

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Dave Smith[_1_] 22-01-2012 07:41 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On 22/01/2012 1:30 PM, Emrys Davies wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.


I usually cook Basmati rice. I use one part rice and two parts water,
put it in a heavy pot, bring it to a boil then turn it down and cook it
for 15 minutes... no peeking. Fluff it by stirring it around with chop
sticks or a fork... not a spoon, and put hte top back on unitl you are
ready to serve.

zxcvbob 22-01-2012 07:43 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
Emrys Davies wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.



White rice or brown rice? I cook them differently.

-Bob

Emrys Davies 22-01-2012 07:56 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> Emrys Davies wrote:
>> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>>
>> or
>>
>> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>>
>> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
>> produces the best product.

>
>
> White rice or brown rice? I cook them differently.
>
> -Bob


White basmati - Tilda next


Julie Bove[_2_] 22-01-2012 08:22 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
Emrys Davies wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.


I have never heard to rinse and soak rice. I use one cup of rice and three
cups of water. A little oil or butter and some salt. Bring to boil, lower
heat to not quite the lowest setting and cook for 20 minutes. This is what
works with my stove now. When I had a certain gas stove I could use two
cups of water to one of rice.



sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 08:37 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:38:17 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

> I have heard that some people will cook rice
> like pasta. That's probably the easiest way to cook rice. Use a long
> grain rice and you'll get a plate of rice with each grain separate
> which, I suppose, the casual rice eater would consider ideal.


LOL! Great minds.

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sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 08:38 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:43:19 -0600, John Kuthe >
wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:30:25 -0000, "Emrys Davies" >
> wrote:
>
> >Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
> >
> >or
> >
> >absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
> >
> >I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
> >the best product.

>
> GoogleGroups is sucking again this AM (now PM) so we'll all see this
> response twice, *eventually*!


You know it's posted, you know most people will see it before you
do...
>
> I don't rinse or soak my brown rice. I justg bring the
> water/butter/salt to a high rolling boil, dump in the rice, cover and
> turn my gas stove down to low and simmer about an hour for all the
> water to be absorbed (2+ to 1 water to rice, by volume.)
>
> Perfect every time!
>

- so stop cluttering up the ng with double posts.

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sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 08:41 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:56:58 -0000, "Emrys Davies" >
wrote:

>
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Emrys Davies wrote:
> >> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
> >>
> >> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> >> produces the best product.

> >
> >
> > White rice or brown rice? I cook them differently.
> >
> > -Bob

>
> White basmati - Tilda next


Tilda is a brand, not a type of rice.

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Melba's Jammin' 22-01-2012 08:49 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
In article >,
"Emrys Davies" > wrote:

> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
> the best product.


I like to do mine in a 2-quart Pyrex mixing pitcher. Rinse the rice
first. 2:1, water:rice. Cover with plastic wrap; poke holes in the
wrap. Maybe 7 minutes at full power, then 10 at 20-30% power.
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Kent[_5_] 22-01-2012 08:51 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 

"Emrys Davies" > wrote in message
...
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.

For long grain rice:

Two parts water to one part rice by volume
Very lightly saute rice with olive oil for just a few minutes. Add salt. Add
water, and slowly simmer covered until water is absorbed. The initial saute
results in rice that doesn't stick together.

All of this depends on what dish you are making and what rice you're using.
Other rices cook differently. Our usual long grain rice is jasmine or
basmati. There are lots of other long grain rices.
Cheers,
Kent










Jeßus[_14_] 22-01-2012 08:59 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:30:25 -0000, "Emrys Davies" >
wrote:

>Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
>or
>
>absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
>I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
>the best product.


Personally, I like the absorption method best - although I do not
rince or soak at all . I don't think I've had a bad result yet using
that method.

Jeßus[_14_] 22-01-2012 09:02 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:38:17 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Jan 22, 8:30*am, "Emrys Davies" > wrote:
>> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>>
>> or
>>
>> absorption method *- involves rinsing and soaking
>>
>> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
>> the best product.

>
>You should save yourself a lot of trouble and get a small, cheap,
>automatic rice cooker. I have heard that some people will cook rice
>like pasta. That's probably the easiest way to cook rice. Use a long
>grain rice and you'll get a plate of rice with each grain separate
>which, I suppose, the casual rice eater would consider ideal.


Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
pot on the stove :)

dsi1[_12_] 22-01-2012 09:20 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On 1/22/2012 11:02 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
> pot on the stove :)


The point you make is a good one. I don't care much for a cluttered
kitchen. I used to cook rice when I was a kid in a special cast aluminum
rice pot. I recently tossed that family pot recently when we moved but
the automatic rice cooker really makes life easier for people that cook
rice every day or several times a day, as Asian families tend to do. It
changed our lives for the better just as the washing machine did for
Western families.

James Silverton[_3_] 22-01-2012 09:41 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On 1/22/2012 4:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 1/22/2012 11:02 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
>> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
>> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
>> pot on the stove :)

>
> The point you make is a good one. I don't care much for a cluttered
> kitchen. I used to cook rice when I was a kid in a special cast aluminum
> rice pot. I recently tossed that family pot recently when we moved but
> the automatic rice cooker really makes life easier for people that cook
> rice every day or several times a day, as Asian families tend to do. It
> changed our lives for the better just as the washing machine did for
> Western families.


Yes, I'll agree with you there. We bought a simple Japanese automatic
rice cooker more than 30 years ago. It does not take up much counter
space and gets used several times a week since I eat rice more often
than potatoes.

Unlike Japanese people, I don't want rice for breakfast so timers and
ways of keeping the rice warm aren't necessary.

--
Jim Silverton

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sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 10:03 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:51:39 -0800, "Kent" >
wrote:

> The initial saute results in rice that doesn't stick together.


Thanks. I've always wondered what the point was for doing that.


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Cheryl[_3_] 22-01-2012 10:37 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On 1/22/2012 1:30 PM, Emrys Davies wrote:
> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.


Just quick boil with a little butter in the water.

Steve Pope 22-01-2012 10:54 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
Julie Bove > wrote:

>I use one cup of rice and three
>cups of water. A little oil or butter and some salt. Bring to boil, lower
>heat to not quite the lowest setting and cook for 20 minutes. This is what
>works with my stove now. When I had a certain gas stove I could use two
>cups of water to one of rice.


As Steve mentioned a few threads back, the Revereware saucepans have
the exact sort of lid you need for cooking rice. I'm not sure of the
explanation for this, but they keep all the steam in and do not require
as exact a low temperature burner to work.

Cooking rice in a Le Creuset does not work as well, despite the lid
having all appearances of fitting tightly.



Steve

S Viemeister[_2_] 22-01-2012 11:15 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On 1/22/2012 3:49 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> "Emrys > wrote:
>
>> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>>
>> or
>>
>> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>>
>> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method produces
>> the best product.

>
> I like to do mine in a 2-quart Pyrex mixing pitcher. Rinse the rice
> first. 2:1, water:rice. Cover with plastic wrap; poke holes in the
> wrap. Maybe 7 minutes at full power, then 10 at 20-30% power.


I use a 2 litre Corning casserole with Pyrex lid - 5 minutes at full
power, 15 at half - but that timing varies with different microwaves.

Jeßus[_14_] 22-01-2012 11:19 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:20:59 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

>On 1/22/2012 11:02 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
>> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
>> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
>> pot on the stove :)

>
>The point you make is a good one. I don't care much for a cluttered
>kitchen. I used to cook rice when I was a kid in a special cast aluminum
>rice pot. I recently tossed that family pot recently when we moved but
>the automatic rice cooker really makes life easier for people that cook
>rice every day or several times a day, as Asian families tend to do. It
>changed our lives for the better just as the washing machine did for
>Western families.


That's fair enough, I only have rice occasionally, and usually for
just the g/f and myself. So cooking it on the stove suits me better. I
also have to keep an eye on electricity usage here (not on grid).

Speaking of rice...

For most of the past 30 years I used brown rice, thinking it must be
healthier than white rice. After all, white rice is refined, right?
Truth is, I've never really enjoyed brown rice, no matter how I've
tried it. I also always feel 'blah' after eating brown rice.

Took me until late last year to finally admit to myself that I really
didn't like brown rice and maybe I should compromise and use white
instead.

Then I came across this or a similar article
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
in which to my surprise I found other people also suffered in the same
way when eating brown rice. Phytic acid strikes again...

Which for me is good news... now I don't feel bad about eating white
rice any more :)



sf[_9_] 22-01-2012 11:50 PM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:19:17 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> For most of the past 30 years I used brown rice, thinking it must be
> healthier than white rice. After all, white rice is refined, right?
> Truth is, I've never really enjoyed brown rice, no matter how I've
> tried it. I also always feel 'blah' after eating brown rice.
>
> Took me until late last year to finally admit to myself that I really
> didn't like brown rice and maybe I should compromise and use white
> instead.
>
> Then I came across this or a similar article
> http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
> in which to my surprise I found other people also suffered in the same
> way when eating brown rice. Phytic acid strikes again...
>
> Which for me is good news... now I don't feel bad about eating white
> rice any more :)
>


I think people eat it when they're trying to stave off diabetes. What
was your reasoning for using it when in reality you didn't like it?

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dsi1[_17_] 23-01-2012 12:36 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Jan 22, 1:19*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:20:59 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:
> >On 1/22/2012 11:02 AM, Jeßus wrote:

>
> >> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
> >> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
> >> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
> >> pot on the stove :)

>
> >The point you make is a good one. I don't care much for a cluttered
> >kitchen. I used to cook rice when I was a kid in a special cast aluminum
> >rice pot. I recently tossed that family pot recently when we moved but
> >the automatic rice cooker really makes life easier for people that cook
> >rice every day or several times a day, as Asian families tend to do. It
> >changed our lives for the better just as the washing machine did for
> >Western families.

>
> That's fair enough, I only have rice occasionally, and usually for
> just the g/f and myself. So cooking it on the stove suits me better. I
> also have to keep an eye on electricity usage here (not on grid).
>
> Speaking of rice...
>
> For most of the past 30 years I used brown rice, thinking it must be
> healthier than white rice. After all, white rice is refined, right?
> Truth is, I've never really enjoyed brown rice, no matter how I've
> tried it. I also always feel 'blah' after eating brown rice.
>
> Took me until late last year to finally admit to myself that I really
> didn't like brown rice and maybe I should compromise and use white
> instead.
>
> Then I came across this or a similar articlehttp://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/what-white-rice-better-than-br...
> in which to my surprise I found other people also suffered in the same
> way when eating brown rice. Phytic acid strikes again...
>
> Which for me is good news... now I don't feel bad about eating white
> rice any more :)


The world is going goo-goo over brown rice, it seems. I think it's
chewy and nutty tasting, but when I want chewy and nutty, I'll have a
bowl of raisin bran. It's good that you realized that you didn't like
BR. Better late than never.

Melba's Jammin' 23-01-2012 01:19 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
In article >,
S Viemeister > wrote:

> On 1/22/2012 3:49 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:


> > I like to do mine in a 2-quart Pyrex mixing pitcher. Rinse the rice
> > first. 2:1, water:rice. Cover with plastic wrap; poke holes in the
> > wrap. Maybe 7 minutes at full power, then 10 at 20-30% power.

>
> I use a 2 litre Corning casserole with Pyrex lid - 5 minutes at full
> power, 15 at half - but that timing varies with different microwaves.


That sounds reasonable, too. :-)
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Gorio 23-01-2012 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Smith[_1_] (Post 1706578)
On 22/01/2012 1:30 PM, Emrys Davies wrote:
Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking

or

absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking

I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
produces the best product.


I usually cook Basmati rice. I use one part rice and two parts water,
put it in a heavy pot, bring it to a boil then turn it down and cook it
for 15 minutes... no peeking. Fluff it by stirring it around with chop
sticks or a fork... not a spoon, and put hte top back on unitl you are
ready to serve.

I do the same twice per week. No stariner, or goofy rice cooker. So simple, eh?

I go tumeric, olive oil, garlic and cilantro in chicken stock with a little bullion (for salt). If you know how to measure, you can make the best rice on earth in 20 minutes with little hassle. The galric turns soft and mellow, cilantro adds just the right hint of savory. Some achiote for color now and then, or Mexican saffron. Voila!!

This shouldn't be so difficult.

Gorio 23-01-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Smith[_1_] (Post 1706578)
On 22/01/2012 1:30 PM, Emrys Davies wrote:
Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking

or

absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking

I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
produces the best product.


I usually cook Basmati rice. I use one part rice and two parts water,
put it in a heavy pot, bring it to a boil then turn it down and cook it
for 15 minutes... no peeking. Fluff it by stirring it around with chop
sticks or a fork... not a spoon, and put hte top back on unitl you are
ready to serve.

I do the same twice per week. No strainer, or goofy rice cooker. So simple, eh?

I go tumeric, olive oil, garlic and cilantro in chicken stock with a little bullion (for salt). If you know how to measure, you can make the best rice on earth in 20 minutes with little hassle. The garlic turns soft and mellow, cilantro adds just the right hint of savory. Some achiote for color now and then, or Mexican saffron. Voila!!

This shouldn't be so difficult.

I don't get why you need another "specialized" appliance for what can be done with a pot on the stovetop. I've already been through the breadmakers, George Foremans, and other silly countertop appliances made for one purpose. Always go back to the range. Easy stuff, IMHO.

I'm back on the laptop 23-01-2012 01:43 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
"Emrys Davies" > wrote in
:

> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>
> or
>
> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>
> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
> produces the best product.
>
>



Microwave rice cooker. Throw it in the pot, add the liquid, put the lid on,
set the time, and come back to cooked rice when the m'wave beeps.


--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 03:45 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:51:39 -0800, Kent wrote:
>
>> Two parts water to one part rice by volume

>
> Everybody keeps saying this but this is just not true. Even amongst
> the white rices the water ratio varies by type, age, and year.
> Basmati rice takes as little 1.5 cups. Jasmine usally 1.75. 2 cups
> usually refers to the tasteless generic white rice (do y'all reeally
> eat that crap?). Jasmine is my preferred rice. Or at least some
> domestic Jasmati or Texmati (kinda expensive).


Texmati is my fave but it's expensive. If I can't get that I just get
whatever long grain white is the cheapest.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 03:53 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:38:17 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 22, 8:30 am, "Emrys Davies" > wrote:
>>> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>>>
>>> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
>>> produces
>>> the best product.

>>
>>You should save yourself a lot of trouble and get a small, cheap,
>>automatic rice cooker. I have heard that some people will cook rice
>>like pasta. That's probably the easiest way to cook rice. Use a long
>>grain rice and you'll get a plate of rice with each grain separate
>>which, I suppose, the casual rice eater would consider ideal.

>
> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
> pot on the stove :)


I've never understood anyone not being able to cook rice in a pan. When I
got the new stove here, I did notice that the rice was cooking too dry too
soon so I just added more water until I realized that I needed to add 3 cups
of water to each cup of rice. If I add less, the water cooks off too
quickly. If I turn the burner down to less than 3 it doesn't simmer enough
to cook it. Odd because I had a really old gas stove at one place where I
lived that could get an extremely low flame to it and the rice was always
perfect every time. I have occasionally had the bottom of the rice get too
dry and stick to the pan when cooked with no oil in it. But I have never
had the sticky, gummy rice that many people complain about.

I have also never understood the need for a rice cooker. We had a Thai
neighbor who had one and had rice in it 24/7. I guess it worked for her
because people were constantly coming to visit so she always had hot rice to
serve them.

I could see it if you had a makeshift kitchen. But if you've got a stove in
your kitchen, you don't need it.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 03:56 AM

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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/22/2012 4:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 1/22/2012 11:02 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>
>>> Only downside to that is one more gadget clogging up the kitchen
>>> cupboards, and requires electricity (I use a combustion stove and gas
>>> stove as backup). Come on people, it isn't that hard to cook rice in a
>>> pot on the stove :)

>>
>> The point you make is a good one. I don't care much for a cluttered
>> kitchen. I used to cook rice when I was a kid in a special cast aluminum
>> rice pot. I recently tossed that family pot recently when we moved but
>> the automatic rice cooker really makes life easier for people that cook
>> rice every day or several times a day, as Asian families tend to do. It
>> changed our lives for the better just as the washing machine did for
>> Western families.

>
> Yes, I'll agree with you there. We bought a simple Japanese automatic rice
> cooker more than 30 years ago. It does not take up much counter space and
> gets used several times a week since I eat rice more often than potatoes.
>
> Unlike Japanese people, I don't want rice for breakfast so timers and ways
> of keeping the rice warm aren't necessary.


When I cook rice I always cook at least twice the amount I need. That is
one thing that will almost always get eaten. And it's easy to microwave it
to eat it later.



John Kuthe[_3_] 23-01-2012 03:57 AM

Cooking rice - preferred method
 
On Jan 22, 2:38*pm, sf > wrote:
....
>
> *- so stop cluttering up the ng with double posts.
>


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John Kuthe...

Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 04:01 AM

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:19:17 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>> For most of the past 30 years I used brown rice, thinking it must be
>> healthier than white rice. After all, white rice is refined, right?
>> Truth is, I've never really enjoyed brown rice, no matter how I've
>> tried it. I also always feel 'blah' after eating brown rice.
>>
>> Took me until late last year to finally admit to myself that I really
>> didn't like brown rice and maybe I should compromise and use white
>> instead.
>>
>> Then I came across this or a similar article
>> http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
>> in which to my surprise I found other people also suffered in the same
>> way when eating brown rice. Phytic acid strikes again...
>>
>> Which for me is good news... now I don't feel bad about eating white
>> rice any more :)
>>

>
> I think people eat it when they're trying to stave off diabetes. What
> was your reasoning for using it when in reality you didn't like it?


Why would anyone eat rice to try to stave off diabetes? Yes, I know they
say that brown or wild rice (not really rice I know) is better for diabetics
than white rice because of the fiber in it. But in reality, diabetics would
be better off eating no rice at all. Unless perhaps they are like me and
have gastroparesis. And yes there are other people who have it. But the
most common cause of it is diabetes. White rice doesn't spike me at all
provided I eat no more than 3 servings at a time. Reason being... I digest
it. I actually prefer the taste and texture of brown rice but it spikes me
terribly and my family doesn't like it. I'm not really sure what wild rice
does to me because again my family doesn't like it. I used to get some soup
that had it in there and I could eat that just fine but it didn't contain a
lot of wild rice. Last time I made it was several years ago for
Thanksgiving. I was hoping people would eat it in lieu of stuffing. Ah,
but I was wrong.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 04:05 AM

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"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>>I use one cup of rice and three
>>cups of water. A little oil or butter and some salt. Bring to boil,
>>lower
>>heat to not quite the lowest setting and cook for 20 minutes. This is
>>what
>>works with my stove now. When I had a certain gas stove I could use two
>>cups of water to one of rice.

>
> As Steve mentioned a few threads back, the Revereware saucepans have
> the exact sort of lid you need for cooking rice. I'm not sure of the
> explanation for this, but they keep all the steam in and do not require
> as exact a low temperature burner to work.
>
> Cooking rice in a Le Creuset does not work as well, despite the lid
> having all appearances of fitting tightly.


I do use Revereware for my rice. I have a set plus an open stock piece.
The only other pots/pans I have are a Rachel Ray pasta pot which I use also
for soups, stews and beans, a Circulon giant fry type pan which I use for
all sorts of things. And a non-stick skillet that these days gets very
little use. I did use it the other day. I only use it when I need to cook
a small amount of food.

I kept my old Revereware pan for popcorn. It has a few scorch marks in it
from when I used to buy old popcorn and it always sat there and stuck
instead of popping. Now I buy my corn from the health food store. It is
very fresh and it always pops well. I also know now never to put too much
corn in the pan. One layer of kernels only. If I want more I will pop a
second or third batch. Works like a dream!



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 04:12 AM

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:54:24 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>>>I use one cup of rice and three
>>>cups of water. A little oil or butter and some salt. Bring to boil,
>>>lower
>>>heat to not quite the lowest setting and cook for 20 minutes. This is
>>>what
>>>works with my stove now. When I had a certain gas stove I could use two
>>>cups of water to one of rice.

>>
>> As Steve mentioned a few threads back, the Revereware saucepans have
>> the exact sort of lid you need for cooking rice. I'm not sure of the
>> explanation for this, but they keep all the steam in and do not require
>> as exact a low temperature burner to work.

>
> I think they call them vapor-lock. There's nothing special about the
> lid/pan combo (except that the lid fits fully inside the pan), it's
> just that they fit so well together and they haven't dented, ruing
> that seal, in 47 years.
>
>> Cooking rice in a Le Creuset does not work as well, despite the lid
>> having all appearances of fitting tightly.

>
> I still can't see one stove needed 1 more cup of water than another
> other stove, given the same amount of the same rice.


Dunno but that is what I've found and I've cooked a lot of rice over the
years. Granted I use Texmati rice most of the time now. In the old days it
was Calrose. I'd buy a huge bag. That could be the difference.

However I have notice that different stoves and ovens do cook differently.
And no, I have never used a thermometer in them to see why.

At one place where I lived, I had a really old electric stove with double
ovens. I can't tell you how many batches of cookies I baked in that thing.
And I found that what worked best in that oven were recipes from the 1930's
through 1950's. If it was a newer recipe I might have to check the bake
time more carefully.

I also know that the horrible gas stoves we had in the military housing
(always the same kind) were bad. I don't recall having any rice issues.
But if it was something that was baked in the oven, I always had to add 20
minutes to the baking time. Otherwise it wouldn't be done.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 04:14 AM

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:22:07 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I have never heard to rinse and soak rice. I use one cup of rice and
>> three
>> cups of water.

>
> What does that make, porridge?
>
>> A little oil or butter and some salt. Bring to boil, lower
>> heat to not quite the lowest setting and cook for 20 minutes. This is
>> what
>> works with my stove now. When I had a certain gas stove I could use two
>> cups of water to one of rice.

>
> Heat is heat. The amount of water depends on the rice. But you sure
> won't find any 1:3 measurements on any brand of white rice I've ever
> seen.


Nope. You won't find that. I just think it has something to do with the
amount of heat coming from the burner. When I had one gas stove I could get
a super low flame. It worked fine. When I turn this electric stove down to
the lowest number, there is still water left in the rice even if I use the 2
cups of water to one cup of rice. Cooking it longer won't help. It just
doesn't seem to get hot enough to cook it. I find that I have to turn it up
to 3. And then it will get too dry too quickly if I don't add that extra
cup of water.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-01-2012 04:54 AM

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"Gorio" > wrote in message
...
>
> 'Dave Smith[_1_ Wrote:
>> ;1706578']On 22/01/2012 1:30 PM, Emrys Davies wrote:-
>> Quick boil method - no rinsing and soaking
>>
>> or
>>
>> absorption method - involves rinsing and soaking
>>
>> I am quite new to rice cooking and am interested as to which method
>> produces the best product.-
>>
>> I usually cook Basmati rice. I use one part rice and two parts water,
>> put it in a heavy pot, bring it to a boil then turn it down and cook it
>> for 15 minutes... no peeking. Fluff it by stirring it around with chop
>> sticks or a fork... not a spoon, and put hte top back on unitl you are
>> ready to serve.

>
> I do the same twice per week. No strainer, or goofy rice cooker. So
> simple, eh?
>
> I go tumeric, olive oil, garlic and cilantro in chicken stock with a
> little bullion (for salt). If you know how to measure, you can make the
> best rice on earth in 20 minutes with little hassle. The garlic turns
> soft and mellow, cilantro adds just the right hint of savory. Some
> achiote for color now and then, or Mexican saffron. Voila!!
>
> This shouldn't be so difficult.
>
> I don't get why you need another "specialized" appliance for what can be
> done with a pot on the stovetop. I've already been through the
> breadmakers, George Foremans, and other silly countertop appliances made
> for one purpose. Always go back to the range. Easy stuff, IMHO.


I was given a George Forman as a gift. I gave it away. Bought a
breadmaker. It's out in the garage. Dehydrator is out in the garage too
but it does get occasional use. Have a mixer and food processor that get
precious little use. Bought a replacement Magic Bullet and it hasn't come
out of the box. Bought it last summer.



sf[_9_] 23-01-2012 05:24 AM

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:36:34 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>
> The world is going goo-goo over brown rice, it seems. I think it's
> chewy and nutty tasting,


I think so too and I like it.

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sf[_9_] 23-01-2012 05:35 AM

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:57:08 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

> On Jan 22, 2:38*pm, sf > wrote:
> ...
> >
> > *- so stop cluttering up the ng with double posts.
> >

>
> Make GoogleGroups not suck so badly.
>


John, you'd be changing providers if GG wasn't free. Spend a couple
of bucks and do something about your problem. It doesn't have to be
expensive. http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/Editors_Choice.html Some
providers do block accounts which means you buy a block of xxGB and
when you run out, you buy more. I've got APN at $3 a month and a
block account from Astraweb at $10 for 25GB. Both do binaries.

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