Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good time to
buy a few new cookbooks.

http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home



Tara

On Jul 22, 8:07*pm, Tara > wrote:
> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. * It's a good time to
> buy a few new cookbooks. *
>
> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>
> Tara

I was wondering how this related to cooking. Well played!

John Kuthe...

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:07:36 -0400, Tara >
> wrote:
>
>> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good time to
>> buy a few new cookbooks.
>>
>> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>>
>>
>>
>> Tara
>
> I did already. You folks know me.
>
> I got Stirfrying to the Sky's Edge by Grace Young. And Cooking in the
> Moment by Andrea Reusing. And Tender, by Nigel Slater.
>
> I was looking for the Ottolenghi books, but didn't see them. Those
> are next up on my list, if I can find them. Oh, and the newest
> Martha Hall Foose book. I didn't see it there.
>
> The cookbooks were already looking a bit picked over, even on the
> first day. I will wait a bit, and go back in a week or so...maybe
> there will be better markdowns.
>
> There are others I forgot to look for...I have a long list that I want
> now.
>
> Christine

What is the discount on cookbooks? Last time, they were
discounted very slowly. You remind me that I want that Grace
Young book.

--
Jean B.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:07:36 -0400, Tara wrote:
>
>> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good time to
>> buy a few new cookbooks.
>>
>> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>
> Again? Every one of them in Austin closed down a few months ago.
> Cookbooks were the always the least discounted items. By the time
> they hit 30% off, you had your choice of Rachel Ray or Jeff Smith. Or
> the bookshelves they were sitting on. Which were nicely constructed
> solid wood shelves (not MDf or particle board), and no laminate except
> for the continuous rubber edge banding. But most shelves were at a
> slight upward angle only appropriate for bookstores.
>
> Even at 40% off they're making at least 10% profit (not including
> overhead). And the stuff that reached the full 40% was total trash.
> They probably got reimbursed for the non-sellers and were told to keep
> them rather than returning them - the selection was that bad. They
> make close to 100% profit on those.
>
> -sw

That probably depends on the particular store. Yes, the cookbooks
had the worst discount, but at my local store, I did get the one
book I had my eye on. I am debating about when I want to go in to
Boston. Maybe after the heatwave ends.

--
Jean B.

Tara > wrote in
:

> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good
> time to buy a few new cookbooks.
>
> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>
>
>
> Tara

On TV tonight, the private company that is doing the sales for
Borders, was noted that their sales prices are still a bit high.
Books and CD's were compared to Barnes and Amazon. Amazon (at this
time) still cheaper than the Borders sale.

Just an FYI

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Jay Leno remarked,
>
> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> government is going out of business in August. Borders must be doing
> something right."

Heh.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:07:36 -0400, Tara >
wrote:

> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales.
>
> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home

So sad, but it's a sign of the times.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, Andy > wrote:

> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> government is going out of business in August.

I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
rates skyrocket. <shaking head> They just don't get it.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Sqwertz > wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2011 03:39:55 GMT, sandi wrote:
>
>> Tara > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good
>>> time to buy a few new cookbooks.
>>>
>>> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>>>
>>> Tara
>>
>> On TV tonight, the private company that is doing the sales for
>> Borders, was noted that their sales prices are still a bit high.
>> Books and CD's were compared to Barnes and Amazon. Amazon (at this
>> time) still cheaper than the Borders sale.
>
> This is why their going out of business. Online sales have prevailed
> in that business. Book markups are typically 100% except for
> textbooks (which are much more expensive to begin with, which makes up
> for the lower markup).
>
> The small 3-store chain of technical bookstores I worked at for 11
> years was ultimately bought by Barnes and Noble for what I remember as
> being $28 million but I'm not sure now. It's been a while. Their
> first order of business, close down those stores to b uild up the B&N
> brand. It's all about Brand Recognition. Heck our little chain was
> taking orders VIA the Internet even before Amazon.
>
> Most people don't know that Amazon was originally a bookstore that
> really had no actual physical inventory of it's own. It was "virtual"
> in more ways than one. Quite a concept at a time when "visionaries"
> were poo-pooing the ridiculous idea of successfully selling *anything*
> over the Internet. Let alone things you don't even own! And a "PC on
> every desk and every home"? Yeah - right! Good luck with THAT, Bill.
>
> -sw

There is still Barnes and Noble around but for how long, just like the
record stores... Gone. Blame apple for the music stores and Blame Amazon
for the Book stores going under

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

"Jean B." > wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:07:36 -0400, Tara wrote:
>>>> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. It's a good time to
>>> buy a few new cookbooks. >>
>>> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home
>>> Again? Every one of them in Austin closed down a few months ago.
>> Cookbooks were the always the least discounted items. By the time
>> they hit 30% off, you had your choice of Rachel Ray or Jeff Smith. Or
>> the bookshelves they were sitting on. Which were nicely constructed
>> solid wood shelves (not MDf or particle board), and no laminate except
>> for the continuous rubber edge banding. But most shelves were at a
>> slight upward angle only appropriate for bookstores.
>>> Even at 40% off they're making at least 10% profit (not including
>> overhead). And the stuff that reached the full 40% was total trash.
>> They probably got reimbursed for the non-sellers and were told to keep
>> them rather than returning them - the selection was that bad. They
>> make close to 100% profit on those.
>>> -sw
>
> That probably depends on the particular store. Yes, the cookbooks had
> the worst discount, but at my local store, I did get the one book I had
> my eye on. I am debating about when I want to go in to Boston. Maybe
> after the heatwave ends.

I bought a cookbook at Borders advertising 20% off on the cookbooks, also
no returns allowed because of store closing. The same day I went to Costco
and they had the same book cheaper. For cookbooks it is almost always
Costco. Every fall they seem to have a good selection. I will be waiting
for the "Good Eats Later Years" that comes out in October.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

"Nad R" > wrote
> There is still Barnes and Noble around but for how long, just like the
> record stores... Gone. Blame apple for the music stores and Blame Amazon
> for the Book stores going under
>

Some blame also goes to downloadable e-books. B & N got on the bandwagon
earlier than Borders. IIRC, Barnes & Noble closed some of their brick &
mortar stores a couple of years ago.

On 7/23/2011 8:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Nad R" > wrote
>> There is still Barnes and Noble around but for how long, just like the
>> record stores... Gone. Blame apple for the music stores and Blame Amazon
>> for the Book stores going under
>>
>
> Some blame also goes to downloadable e-books. B & N got on the bandwagon
> earlier than Borders. IIRC, Barnes & Noble closed some of their brick &
> mortar stores a couple of years ago.

They opened a big new B&N near me a couple of years ago. For whatever
reason I never did care for Borders, but I didn't like to see them go
out of business, either. They never had what I was looking for whenever
I stopped at one in my travels.

nancy

On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
>
>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
>> government is going out of business in August.
>
> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
>

The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.

Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
because he raised in Hawaii.

On Jul 22, 8:07*pm, Tara > wrote:
> Borders bookstore has begun liquidation sales. * It's a good time to
> buy a few new cookbooks. *
>
> http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home

We went there yesterday, and books were only 10% off. We left. The
lines were long too. What a bunch of dumb clucks. We used to get 40%
any single item coupons in email all the time. Considering there's no
sales tax (for now) on Amazon purchases, and there is on Borders
(including online), they'd have to do a heck of a lot better than 10%
to get me there again.
>
> Tara

--Bryan

On Jul 23, 7:37*am, dsi1 > wrote:
> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > *wrote:
>
> >> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> >> government is going out of business in August.
>
> > I am so disgusted. *Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> > doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> > rates skyrocket.<shaking head> * They just don't get it.
>
> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.

It is bizarre. Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
challenged. It's this Tea Party nonsense. The Tea Party is a
disease. A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
voting Democratic.
>
> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
> because he raised in Hawaii.

The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.

--Bryan

Bryan > wrote:
> On Jul 23, 7:37 am, dsi1 > wrote:
>> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
>>
>>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
>>>> government is going out of business in August.
>>
>>> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
>>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
>>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
>>
>> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
>> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
>> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>
> It is bizarre. Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
> challenged. It's this Tea Party nonsense. The Tea Party is a
> disease. A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
> noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
> voting Democratic.
>>
>> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
>> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
>> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
>> because he raised in Hawaii.
>
> The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
> there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
> Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.
>
> --Bryan

Republicans get elected by promising tax cuts and get tossed out when
"they" make any cuts to the budget, therefore running the debt sky high.
The republicans try their best to black mail the democrats to make the
budget cuts they cannot do when a republican is the president. In my view
the republican party is the party of destruction of this nation.

The republicans gave the millionaires and billionaires trillions in cuts
and started a trillion dollar war in Iraq. Expanded government by creating
the largest government agency in the world called "Home Land Security".
Robbing the senior citizens social security fund to pay for the rich
peoples tax cuts and for the wars.

The republicans: cuts taxes, expanded government and starts a useless war.
No wonder we are in debt. Why anyone votes republican is beyond my mind.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Jul 23, 8:43*am, Nad R > wrote:
> Bryan > wrote:
> > On Jul 23, 7:37 am, dsi1 > wrote:
> >> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > *wrote:
>
> >>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> >>>> government is going out of business in August.
>
> >>> I am so disgusted. *Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> >>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> >>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> * They just don't get it.
>
> >> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
> >> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
> >> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>
> > It is bizarre. *Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
> > challenged. *It's this Tea Party nonsense. *The Tea Party is a
> > disease. *A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
> > noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
> > voting Democratic.
>
> >> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
> >> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
> >> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
> >> because he raised in Hawaii.
>
> > The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
> > there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
> > Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Republicans get elected by promising tax cuts and get tossed out when
> "they" make any cuts to the budget, therefore running the debt sky high.
> The republicans try their best to black mail the democrats to make the
> budget cuts they cannot do when a republican is the president. In my view
> the republican party is the party of destruction of this nation.m
>
> The republicans gave the millionaires and billionaires trillions in cuts
> and started a trillion dollar war in Iraq. Expanded government by creating
> the largest government agency in the world called "Home Land Security".
> Robbing the senior citizens social security fund to pay for the rich
> peoples tax cuts and for the wars.
>
> The republicans: cuts taxes, expanded government and starts a useless war..
> No wonder we are in debt. Why anyone votes republican is beyond my mind.
>
> --
> Enjoy Life... Nad R *(Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Because the Republicans run on "Less Govt, Less taxes and more
freedom" which are all lies of course, but it's what people want to
hear so they vote for them! :-(

John Kuthe,,,

On 2011-07-23, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:


> Some blame also goes to downloadable e-books. B & N got on the bandwagon
> earlier than Borders. IIRC, Barnes & Noble closed some of their brick &
> mortar stores a couple of years ago.

Book stores have always been in flux. Used to be chain discount book
stores in all the malls. Remember Crown and Walden's? They all went
under with the advent of the big box book stores like B&N and Borders,
which almost never discount books. I remember when the Borders
opened near me. I lived there. First time I went was Sunday
afternoon and they had a jazz trio playing. Within 2 yrs, they'd
remodeled, losing a third of total floorspace.

I never understood that business model. How did full retail stores
replace discount stores. Never a lack of business I could see.
Always lines at the checkout and new titles by the gross. I kept being
amazed at how many books were being published on every subject
imaginable.

I don't really think ebooks are replacing print books. Readers are
expensive and you never own an ebook. Despite the fact there is no
overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
high. Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend. Don't have to
plug in a print book to recharge. If I fall asleep while reading and
drop a print book and then roll over on it, the worst that can happen
is a few crumpled pages. What would happen to that expensive ereader?
Trees are a renewable resource. Ereaders are a toxic industry.
Really bad trade off, IMO.

Jes some thoughts.....

nb

notbob wrote:
>
>I don't really think ebooks are replacing print books. Readers are
>expensive and you never own an ebook.

That's what folks said about phonograph records.

Nowadays, especially in this economy, serious readers use library
cards. Most folks who buy books to fill shelves don't read them.

On Jul 23, 7:58*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-07-23, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Some blame also goes to downloadable e-books. *B & N got on the bandwagon
> > earlier than Borders. * IIRC, Barnes & Noble closed some of their brick &
> > mortar stores a couple of years ago.
>
> Book stores have always been in flux. *Used to be chain discount book
> stores in all the malls. *Remember Crown and Walden's? *They all went
> under with the advent of the big box book stores like B&N and Borders,
> which almost never discount books. *I remember when the Borders
> opened near me. *I lived there. *First time I went was Sunday
> afternoon and they had a jazz trio playing. *Within 2 yrs, they'd
> remodeled, losing a third of total floorspace.
>
> I never understood that business model. *How did full retail stores
> replace discount stores. *Never a lack of business I could see.
> Always lines at the checkout and new titles by the gross. *I kept being
> amazed at how many books were being published on every subject
> imaginable. *
>
> I don't really think ebooks are replacing print books. *Readers are
> expensive and you never own an ebook. *Despite the fact there is no
> overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
> high. *Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend. *Don't have to
> plug in a print book to recharge. *If I fall asleep while reading and
> drop a print book and then roll over on it, the worst that can happen
> is a few crumpled pages. *What would happen to that expensive ereader?
> Trees are a renewable resource. *Ereaders are a toxic industry.
> Really bad trade off, IMO.
>
> Jes some thoughts.....
>
> nb *

==
E-books are great. I have a free reader on my computer. I get mostly
FREE e-books from the Internet and can read them and bookmark as I go
along. One can easily convert books or files in pdf format to read on
the "reader" as well. All I need is a comfortable chair and time to
spend.
==

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
> > Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> > government is going out of business in August.
>
> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> rates skyrocket. <shaking head> They just don't get it.

For the government to get out of the hole it's dug for itself a lot of
us are going to have to suffer, alas.

Maybe if it can get dug out it won't borrow itself into poverty again
but that's unlikely.

On 7/23/2011 4:53 AM, Nad R wrote:

>
> I bought a cookbook at Borders advertising 20% off on the cookbooks, also
> no returns allowed because of store closing. The same day I went to Costco
> and they had the same book cheaper. For cookbooks it is almost always
> Costco. Every fall they seem to have a good selection. I will be waiting
> for the "Good Eats Later Years" that comes out in October.
>



I have been buying books at Costco for years but noticed recently that
their selection of books, especially cookbooks, has really decreased.
They are devoting a lot less space to books except for children's titles.

gloria p

On 23 Jul 2011 13:58:05 GMT, notbob wrote:

> I don't really think ebooks are replacing print books. Readers are
> expensive and you never own an ebook. Despite the fact there is no
> overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
> high. Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend. Don't have to
> plug in a print book to recharge. If I fall asleep while reading and
> drop a print book and then roll over on it, the worst that can happen
> is a few crumpled pages. What would happen to that expensive ereader?
> Trees are a renewable resource. Ereaders are a toxic industry.
> Really bad trade off, IMO.
>
> Jes some thoughts.....
>
> nb

i like books as physical objects. i don't want to do *all* my reading off
a screen.

your pal,
blake

"gloria.p" > wrote:
> On 7/23/2011 4:53 AM, Nad R wrote:
>
>>
>> I bought a cookbook at Borders advertising 20% off on the cookbooks, also
>> no returns allowed because of store closing. The same day I went to Costco
>> and they had the same book cheaper. For cookbooks it is almost always
>> Costco. Every fall they seem to have a good selection. I will be waiting
>> for the "Good Eats Later Years" that comes out in October.
>>
>
>
>
> I have been buying books at Costco for years but noticed recently that
> their selection of books, especially cookbooks, has really decreased.
> They are devoting a lot less space to books except for children's titles.
>
> gloria p

Few books here as well at Costco, but I have feeling in two months they
will be back for the holidays and canning is about to startup. But I could
be wrong and more people going digital. I have both an iPad for eReading
and hard bound books.

I prefer reference books in electronic form because it is much faster at
finding specific information.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Jul 23, 10:57*am, Andy > wrote:

<a bit of deletion>

>
> I agree that e-books are great. I have four different readers on the
> iPhone. Some better in features than others.
>
> A few readers exhibit the worst hyphenation logic and justification I've
> ever seen.
>
> gBooks has the better text formatting options and text is aligned flush
> left (MUCH better readability). It won't display in landscape mode.
> Viewing in larger text sizes can result in one word lines.
>
> Books for one reader doesn't open in another so you can't choose a
> favorite reader and skip the rest.
>
> The "Classic" iPhone app comes with 30 classics. Other readers come with
> a couple books as a teaser to buy from their online bookstores.
>
> I'll agree, there are plenty of free e-books to be had. That and the
> online Gutenberg Project could keep you reading for probably decades.
>
> There are also text-to-speech apps so e-books could be read to you.
> Unlike audio books which are spoken by humans (an old friend does this),
> computer pronunciation could get old really fast.
>
> I also downloaded user manuals in Pdf format for many products I own. If
> you can find them, they are always freely available.
>
> All my recipes from online and digitally photographed cookbook recipes
> are on the iPhone. Not that I've actually read them, I just wanted them
> in my pocket. It would come in handy to shop for all the ingredients for
> a recipe. I've also photographed my pantry and refrigerator contents for
> when I'm at the market and wondering "do I need more of this or not?"
> That is probably overdoing it a tad. I thought it was a useful idea.
>
> All that said, I've never read an e-book on the iPhone from start to
> finish!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

==
There were a few rainy days this summer when I took advantage of my
free 'Kindle' to read a couple of e-books. This winter when its
blizzarding, I'm sure it'll come in handy as well.
==

"notbob" > wrote
>
> I never understood that business model. How did full retail stores
> replace discount stores. Never a lack of business I could see.

Atmosphere? Music, coffee, lounge chairs seem to bring in more people than
a discount at Walden Books in the mall.



>
> I don't really think ebooks are replacing print books. Readers are
> expensive and you never own an ebook. Despite the fact there is no
> overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
> high. Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend. Don't have to
> plug in a print book to recharge.

They are taking a large share of market though, and it will grow. Remember
how digital cameras have destroyed the film and processing business?

You can lend some books and you can download and "own" others. There are
digital rights issues though.



> Trees are a renewable resource. Ereaders are a toxic industry.
> Really bad trade off, IMO.

At some point the two cross each other's lines. How much toxicity is
produced by one e-reader and how many printed books and cut down trees does
it take to equal it?

"Andy" > wrote
> I agree that e-books are great. I have four different readers on the
> iPhone. Some better in features than others.
>
> A few readers exhibit the worst hyphenation logic and justification I've
> ever seen.

On a dedicated reader with a larger screen, the hyphenation problem goes
away. They very much replicate a printed page.


>
> All that said, I've never read an e-book on the iPhone from start to
> finish!

I'd never consider it. The screen is just not large enough and the
backlighting will make it hard on the eyes over time. I may catch the news
headlines and a short article on the phone, but that is about it. I'd never
think about actually reading a book for enjoyment on such a small screen.

On 7/23/2011 3:16 AM, Bryan wrote:
> On Jul 23, 7:37 am, > wrote:
>> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
>>
>>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
>>>> government is going out of business in August.
>>
>>> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
>>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
>>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
>>
>> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
>> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
>> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>
> It is bizarre. Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
> challenged. It's this Tea Party nonsense. The Tea Party is a
> disease. A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
> noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
> voting Democratic.
>>
>> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
>> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
>> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
>> because he raised in Hawaii.
>
> The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
> there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
> Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.

Obama's concessions towards the republicans is interpreted as weakness
but my guess is that he just wants everybody to come out of this looking
good. He's a typical Asian. :-)

>
> --Bryan
>

On Jul 23, 12:58*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> On 7/23/2011 3:16 AM, Bryan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 7:37 am, > *wrote:
> >> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > * *wrote:
>
> >>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> >>>> government is going out of business in August.
>
> >>> I am so disgusted. *Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> >>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> >>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> * * They just don't get it.
>
> >> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
> >> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
> >> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>
> > It is bizarre. *Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
> > challenged. *It's this Tea Party nonsense. *The Tea Party is a
> > disease. *A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
> > noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
> > voting Democratic.
>
> >> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
> >> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
> >> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
> >> because he raised in Hawaii.
>
> > The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
> > there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
> > Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.
>
> Obama's concessions towards the republicans is interpreted as weakness
> but my guess is that he just wants everybody to come out of this looking
> good. He's a typical Asian. :-)
>
Yep, he's the most Asian African-European American I can think of, and
Tiger Woods is the most European African-Asian American. I wonder who
the most African European-Asian American is.
>
> > --Bryan

--Bryan

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:37:01 -1000, dsi1 > wrote:

> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
> >
> >> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
> >> government is going out of business in August.
> >
> > I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
> > doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
> > rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
> >
>
> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>
> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
> because he raised in Hawaii.

But they are the party of "No", even when what they want is handed to
them on a silver platter.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:16:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
> there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
> Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.

Absolutely... but I'm still shaking my head over why the Dem's didn't
try to do it while they still controlled the house. So what if there
was a filibuster? At least they would have been trying to *do*
something. Instead they "negotiated" with the party of No and sat on
their hands until they lost the majority.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 7/23/2011 10:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:37:01 -1000, > wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
>>>> government is going out of business in August.
>>>
>>> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
>>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
>>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
>>>
>>
>> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
>> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
>> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>>
>> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
>> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
>> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
>> because he raised in Hawaii.
>
> But they are the party of "No", even when what they want is handed to
> them on a silver platter.
>

They are the Bizarro party whose main platform is the exact opposite of
everything that is Obama. :-)

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:02:58 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

> Maybe if it can get dug out it won't borrow itself into poverty again
> but that's unlikely.

HA! You only need to remember what Schwarzenegger did to California
to know that every time the bank account looks good, they'll be in
their giving their rich buddies tax breaks and buying votes by giving
away revenue sources (such as lowering the vehicle registration fee).

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 23 Jul 2011 13:58:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> Readers are
> expensive and you never own an ebook. Despite the fact there is no
> overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
> high. Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend.

I can't justify the price either. Okay, pay for a decent e-reader...
but the book prices are ridiculous. Nope, I want something I can put
on a bookshelf for the prices they're asking.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

sf > wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2011 13:58:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> Readers are
>> expensive and you never own an ebook. Despite the fact there is no
>> overhead for printing, shipping, etc, the prices are still absurdly
>> high. Can't sell it, trade it, give it to a friend.
>
> I can't justify the price either. Okay, pay for a decent e-reader...
> but the book prices are ridiculous. Nope, I want something I can put
> on a bookshelf for the prices they're asking.

Free is not an acceptable price?

All classic books are free on line. Mark Twain, Shakespeare, Einstein, and
many others are free at "google books". if one does home schooling there
are tons of educational books covering a wide range of subjects. I found
the free calculus text book selection rather interesting. All for the price
of an eReader. School systems are going that route. A dozen text books cost
more than one eReader for each student and far less heavy for the kids
backpack. Also current digital books are often half the price of the real
book.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:53:00 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:
>
>> There is still Barnes and Noble around but for how long, just like the
>> record stores... Gone. Blame apple for the music stores and Blame Amazon
>> for the Book stores going under
>
>
> Apple, why?
>
> Oh, just never mind. I don't wish to hear about your abnormal
> fixation with Apple and yet again.
>
> -sw

Me, I have a fixation?
Are you sure you do not want to here the details

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Mark Thorson > wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> But they are the party of "No", even when what they want is handed to
>> them on a silver platter.
>
> Actually, there's a segment of the GOP (not exactly the
> Tea Party segment, but almost the same) which _wants_
> the U.S. to default. This is the closest chance they'll
> ever get, and they're going for it! If they wait until
> the next election cycle, they might not be as strong or
> the debt ceiling might be removed. It has to be now!
>
> The reasoning is that it is good if interest rates on
> T-bills go up. They want the rates to go way up. The
> rates hurt us only if we borrow money, and they want
> to stop that by any means possible. Throwing a monkey
> wrench into the machinery might work or it might not,
> but so far nothing else has. They owe the mainstream
> Republicans nothing, so they don't really care whether
> they do any damage to the party.

So far I have not seen a single posting supporting the GOP. I think it has
to do with topic "Bookstore Closing". I think this because Republicans have
no interest in reading books. So they by pass this topic up.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:07:36 -0400, Tara wrote:
>
> Again? Every one of them in Austin closed down a few months ago.
> Cookbooks were the always the least discounted items. By the time
> they hit 30% off, you had your choice of Rachel Ray or Jeff Smith. Or
> the bookshelves they were sitting on. Which were nicely constructed
> solid wood shelves (not MDf or particle board), and no laminate except
> for the continuous rubber edge banding. But most shelves were at a
> slight upward angle only appropriate for bookstores.

Hmmm . . . bookshelves. I could use those.
Slight upward angle is good in earthquake country.
In a big earthquake, all the books end up on the
floor.

Aquaria are also vulnerable during a big earthquake.
Expect about 1/3 of the water and fish to slosh out.
After the last big earthquake here, I saw on the
local TV news some video of someone's swimming pool
with a mini-tsunami going back and forth across it
during the quake.

sf wrote:
>
> But they are the party of "No", even when what they want is handed to
> them on a silver platter.

Actually, there's a segment of the GOP (not exactly the
Tea Party segment, but almost the same) which _wants_
the U.S. to default. This is the closest chance they'll
ever get, and they're going for it! If they wait until
the next election cycle, they might not be as strong or
the debt ceiling might be removed. It has to be now!

The reasoning is that it is good if interest rates on
T-bills go up. They want the rates to go way up. The
rates hurt us only if we borrow money, and they want
to stop that by any means possible. Throwing a monkey
wrench into the machinery might work or it might not,
but so far nothing else has. They owe the mainstream
Republicans nothing, so they don't really care whether
they do any damage to the party.

On 7/23/2011 8:25 AM, Bryan wrote:
> On Jul 23, 12:58 pm, > wrote:
>> On 7/23/2011 3:16 AM, Bryan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 7:37 am, > wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2011 9:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:22:07 -0500, > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Borders Bookstores is going out of business in September. Meanwhile our US
>>>>>> government is going out of business in August.
>>
>>>>> I am so disgusted. Well, the idiots who elected the idiots who are
>>>>> doing this will be squealing like stuck pigs when their credit card
>>>>> rates skyrocket.<shaking head> They just don't get it.
>>
>>>> The republicans seem hell bent on setting themselves up to be the fall
>>>> guys for every economic problem the American people will be having in
>>>> the near future. It's a puzzling strategy.
>>
>>> It is bizarre. Usually it's the Democrats who are strategically
>>> challenged. It's this Tea Party nonsense. The Tea Party is a
>>> disease. A lot of independents who would otherwise have held their
>>> noses and voted Republican are going to end up holding their noses and
>>> voting Democratic.
>>
>>>> Obama is doing everything he can to allow the republicans to get out of
>>>> this hole they've dug for themselves and not lose face. Saving face is
>>>> important in Asian culture. Obviously, he is familiar with this concept
>>>> because he raised in Hawaii.
>>
>>> The Democratic base isn't very happy with Obama, but we'll be out
>>> there enthusiastically working for his re-election because the
>>> Republican Party has gone from merely bad to downright dangerous.
>>
>> Obama's concessions towards the republicans is interpreted as weakness
>> but my guess is that he just wants everybody to come out of this looking
>> good. He's a typical Asian. :-)
>>
> Yep, he's the most Asian African-European American I can think of, and
> Tiger Woods is the most European African-Asian American. I wonder who
> the most African European-Asian American is.

That's what most people don't understand - all they can see is a black
guy but his upbringing is anything but black.

>>
>>> --Bryan
>
> --Bryan