In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
> > The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
> > key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
> > from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
> > (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
>
> There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
> container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
> idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
> talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
> ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
> thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.

I've learned over the years of reading this group and observing my wife
bake, that KA often means King Arthur:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/compost-set

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:18:40 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
>> > key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
>> > from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
>> > (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
>>
>> There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
>> container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
>> idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
>> talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
>> ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
>> thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.
>
>I've learned over the years of reading this group and observing my wife
>bake, that KA often means King Arthur:
>
>http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/compost-set

King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
the person running it....ok...then why have one?

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:25:24 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:18:40 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
>>> > key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
>>> > from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
>>> > (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
>>>
>>> There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
>>> container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
>>> idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
>>> talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
>>> ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
>>> thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.
>>
>>I've learned over the years of reading this group and observing my wife
>>bake, that KA often means King Arthur:
>>
>>http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/compost-set
>
>King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
>my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
>ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
>dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
>told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
>needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
>the person running it....ok...then why have one?


When did the change-over happen?

Boron

>>Landon wrote:
>>King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
>>my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
>>ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
>>dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
>>told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
>>needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
>>the person running it....ok...then why have one?

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:43:26 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>When did the change-over happen?
>
>Boron

I'll have to email my niece and ask her. I believe it was about 3 or 4
years ago.

I just emailed her.

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:56:36 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>>>Landon wrote:
>>>King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
>>>my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
>>>ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
>>>dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
>>>told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
>>>needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
>>>the person running it....ok...then why have one?
>
>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:43:26 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>
>>When did the change-over happen?
>>
>>Boron
>
>I'll have to email my niece and ask her. I believe it was about 3 or 4
>years ago.
>
>I just emailed her.


Thanks. I am curious, as I saw that over the past 3-5 years their
business model changed. They sell a lot more mixes and "add-ins" than
basic ingredients these days.

Boron

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:27:22 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:56:36 -0400, Landon > wrote:
>
>>>>Landon wrote:
>>>>King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
>>>>my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
>>>>ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
>>>>dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
>>>>told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
>>>>needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
>>>>the person running it....ok...then why have one?
>>
>>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:43:26 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>>
>>>When did the change-over happen?
>>>
>>>Boron
>>
>>I'll have to email my niece and ask her. I believe it was about 3 or 4
>>years ago.
>>
>>I just emailed her.
>
>
>Thanks. I am curious, as I saw that over the past 3-5 years their
>business model changed. They sell a lot more mixes and "add-ins" than
>basic ingredients these days.
>
>Boron

No problem Boron! I remember how upset she was when the changes
started happening. She said that prior to the changes, every product
they had was tested in her kitchen on the plant. Then they started
bypassing the testing and just throwing new products on the shelf with
no actual human testing. She said that the quality started dropping at
that point and she became very dissatisfied with her job.

If I remember correctly, she stayed there about 6 months then and left
for another job.

I'll post in this thread when she answers my email. It might be a few
days. She's a very busy person.

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:43:18 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:27:22 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:56:36 -0400, Landon > wrote:
>>
>>>>>Landon wrote:
>>>>>King Arthur *used to be* a quality maker of quality products. One of
>>>>>my nieces was the person who ran their test kitchen. After new
>>>>>ownership of the company, its products were revised and the quality
>>>>>dropped radically. My niece quit working there as a result. She was
>>>>>told by the owners that her remarks about their products weren't
>>>>>needed...hahaha, crack me up! Have a test kitchen and don't listen to
>>>>>the person running it....ok...then why have one?
>>>
>>>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:43:26 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>When did the change-over happen?
>>>>
>>>>Boron
>>>
>>>I'll have to email my niece and ask her. I believe it was about 3 or 4
>>>years ago.
>>>
>>>I just emailed her.
>>
>>
>>Thanks. I am curious, as I saw that over the past 3-5 years their
>>business model changed. They sell a lot more mixes and "add-ins" than
>>basic ingredients these days.
>>
>>Boron
>
>No problem Boron! I remember how upset she was when the changes
>started happening. She said that prior to the changes, every product
>they had was tested in her kitchen on the plant. Then they started
>bypassing the testing and just throwing new products on the shelf with
>no actual human testing. She said that the quality started dropping at
>that point and she became very dissatisfied with her job.
>
>If I remember correctly, she stayed there about 6 months then and left
>for another job.
>
>I'll post in this thread when she answers my email. It might be a few
>days. She's a very busy person.

King Arthur Flour turned to poopoo around the time they split off The
Baker's Catalogue... I won't buy their products anymore, they're over
priced, poor quality, their flours turned to crap, and their employees
who answer the phone are very surly; a few years ago I queried about
their obtaining/locating/selling windmill cookie molds, didn't have a
clue what I was talking about and weren't interested.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:18:40 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
> > > key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
> > > from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
> > > (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
> >
> > There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
> > container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
> > idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
> > talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
> > ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
> > thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.
>
> I've learned over the years of reading this group and observing my wife
> bake, that KA often means King Arthur:
>
> http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/compost-set

So KA is a compost can now.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:18:40 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
>> > key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
>> > from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
>> > (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
>>
>> There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
>> container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
>> idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
>> talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
>> ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
>> thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.
>
>I've learned over the years of reading this group and observing my wife
>bake, that KA often means King Arthur:
>
>http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/compost-set

Give that man a cigar!

Boron