On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>
>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>
>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>
>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>nasty.
>>
>snip
>>Boron
>
>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>Janet

Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
as much.

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:13:57 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:


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>
>Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>as much.


My property isn't as large as yours, Sheldon. I empty the container
every evening after supper. I walk out the back door into the back
yard and over to the compost. Bring the container back in and rinse
and then wash it. No smell. I'm simply taking fresh trimmings out to
the compost -- they haven't begun to ferment yet.
Janet

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:11:11 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:13:57 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>
>snip
>>
>>Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>>often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>>they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>>ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>>stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>>this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>>as much.
>
>
>My property isn't as large as yours, Sheldon. I empty the container
>every evening after supper. I walk out the back door into the back
>yard and over to the compost. Bring the container back in and rinse
>and then wash it. No smell. I'm simply taking fresh trimmings out to
>the compost -- they haven't begun to ferment yet.
>Janet


Compost is garbage that I am diverting from the garbage collector. .
Just as with my other garbage, it goes out every single day. I do not
keep it hanging around the kitchen.

I always have enough cottage cheese containers, too, because that is a
household staple. Even on days that I am doing a lot of cooking and
food prep, I have never, ever come close to running out of cottage
cheese containers.

Over the winter, the snow was so deep that we could not get to the
composters (I have two). I piled up those filled cottage cheese
containers in the garage where they froze nicely. When the thaw came,
I marched it all out to the composters. No fuss. No muss. No filters.
No disintegrating bags.

Besides, it does no harm whatsoever if any of the compost starts its
decomposition a few hours or even days early. If I find a rotted
orange or potato or some such, or cut out an overripe portion of a
melon, into the compost container it goes. I surely wouldn't worry
about "fermentation" detracting from its use.

Poor Sheldon...his brain is fermented and he doesn't know his ass from
a hole in the ground about compost, either.

Boron

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:51:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

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>Over the winter, the snow was so deep that we could not get to the
>composters (I have two). I piled up those filled cottage cheese
>containers in the garage where they froze nicely. When the thaw came,
>I marched it all out to the composters. No fuss. No muss. No filters.
>No disintegrating bags.
snip
>Boron

Oh, heck. I never thought of letting the stuff freeze. I'd have to
use a plastic garbage can and see if the raccoons would leave it
alone.
Janet

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:19:38 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:51:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>snip
>>Over the winter, the snow was so deep that we could not get to the
>>composters (I have two). I piled up those filled cottage cheese
>>containers in the garage where they froze nicely. When the thaw came,
>>I marched it all out to the composters. No fuss. No muss. No filters.
>>No disintegrating bags.
>snip
>>Boron
>
>Oh, heck. I never thought of letting the stuff freeze. I'd have to
>use a plastic garbage can and see if the raccoons would leave it
>alone.
>Janet


I think the critters would get to the stuff by me if I left it outside
to freeze. Over the years, we gave up keeping cars in the garage and
use it for more practical stuff - like storing frozen compostables and
large tubs of weird plants in the winter.

Boron

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:35:21 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:19:38 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
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>>
>>Oh, heck. I never thought of letting the stuff freeze. I'd have to
>>use a plastic garbage can and see if the raccoons would leave it
>>alone.
>>Janet
>
>
>I think the critters would get to the stuff by me if I left it outside
>to freeze. Over the years, we gave up keeping cars in the garage and
>use it for more practical stuff - like storing frozen compostables and
>large tubs of weird plants in the winter.
>
>Boron


Normally, my husband would take it out and bury the stuff in the
"real" compost pile. This year all composting shut down as piles and
tumblers froze solid.
Janet

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:52:03 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:35:21 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:19:38 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>>
>snip
>>>
>>>Oh, heck. I never thought of letting the stuff freeze. I'd have to
>>>use a plastic garbage can and see if the raccoons would leave it
>>>alone.
>>>Janet
>>
>>
>>I think the critters would get to the stuff by me if I left it outside
>>to freeze. Over the years, we gave up keeping cars in the garage and
>>use it for more practical stuff - like storing frozen compostables and
>>large tubs of weird plants in the winter.
>>
>>Boron
>
>
>Normally, my husband would take it out and bury the stuff in the
>"real" compost pile. This year all composting shut down as piles and
>tumblers froze solid.
>Janet

We could have tolerated the temps, but it was the 4+ feet of snow in
the yard all winter that prevented the trek from house to bins (only
one tumbles, that is my favorite).

Boron

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>>
>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>
>>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>>nasty.
>>>
>>snip
>>>Boron
>>
>>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>>Janet
>
> Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
> often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
> they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
> ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
> stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
> this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
> as much.

And you never get fruit flies? I was getting flies even when mine was
empty, washed out and with a new filter. I found the only way to stop them
was to put coffee filters between the filter and the container. Was a PITA
so I got rid of it.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>>
>>>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>>>nasty.
>>>>
>>>snip
>>>>Boron
>>>
>>>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>>>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>>>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>>>Janet
>>
>> Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>> often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>> they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>> ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>> stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>> this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>> as much.
>
>And you never get fruit flies? I was getting flies even when mine was
>empty, washed out and with a new filter. I found the only way to stop them
>was to put coffee filters between the filter and the container. Was a PITA
>so I got rid of it.

I never get fruit flies, don't know why not but I just don't... could
be because fruit fly eggs come indoors on the produce you bring home,
but I wash all produce as soon as it comes in the door, I never place
unwashed produce in the fridge or leave it out on the counter. Fruit
flies have a 24 hour life cycle (why they are used for much research),
so if you wash away the eggs you won't get fruit flies. But really,
if you carefully wash ALL produce as soon as you bring it home then
it's very difficult to get fruit flies. Another fact is that I have
central AC and all the air in my house is constantly filtered several
times an hour, I never open my windows, I don't even have screens,
don't need any, not to mention it would drive me nuts having to look
outdoors through stupid screens. As soon as I moved here I had the
central AC installed along with an April Air filter, and also UV lamps
in the system. Not only don't I have fruit flies I haven't had a cold
in nine years. All the water in my house is treated with UV too, much
more efficient and healthful than chlorination. Even if folks don't
want to spring for central AC everyone needs their water treated with
UV, not at all costly and treats every drop coming into your house, UV
is a very efficient bacteriostat, say good bye to the agony of
psoriasis. Anyone who already has central AC or is contemplating
having it installed needs to have the April Air filtration system and
a UV lamp added. Even if you don't use the AC (like in cool weather)
the fan automatically switches to low so all the air in the house is
still constantly filtered and treated with UV and at very little cost.
There are also UV wands one can use to sterilize food prep surfaces,
but I don't recommend them for the same reason UV lamps are no longer
used to sterilze towels in public rest rooms, they can harm eyes. But
the UV lamps used for water and air are never exposed. You'll save
many fold their price on medical bills not to mention the associated
misery. I don't know why UV treatment for water and air aren't
mandated by law, for residences and businesses, even vehicles,
definitely should be used to treat the air on airplanes... much, MUCH
better than no account Obomination care.... didn't that putz ever hear
about how an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... doesn't
every HS graduate know that UV kills germs.