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On 3/11/2011 9:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> No 1/16th inch or more rim? Odd but my stuff isn't 'new' at all.
> Some of it is 100 years or so old now (I've had it 30 myself and
> wasn't new then). I got 3 of the pieces off a lady who was 70 who got
> them from her grandmother and had used them 50 years herself. They
> have a little 'bottom lip' that would make contact first and a 1/4 to
> 1/16th rise (depending on pan) above the rest of the flat surface
> before it touched the rest of the bottom.
>
> I don't have any that do not have this.

My cast iron skillets look just like you describe. They do fine when I
cook on the glass top, I have no problem at all.

Becca

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> we had a regular stove before but i originally wanted a built in double
> oven as my mom has one and loves it... however the cheapo model at home
> depot is almost 3k, and as we discussed replacement that went out the
> window. you are right, the cast iron was one of the few things we were
> able to save, i have a rather extensive collection of griswald that is an
> in use collectable,

Ah, I lost track fast on the 'dream kitchen' thread you had. Too many
didn't trim posts at all and it was unreadable to my view within a day or
so.

They have some very nice double ovens with range top combined. Have you
selected one yet? I was looking at one when we replaced our old gas range
at last this past spring but it was more based on the range part which we
use. It's not a joke that I have to almost dust out the oven even today
(and literally had to in Japan as we used it so seldom). Boron would be
horrified (grin). I'd be equally horrified at someone having to dust off a
crockpot of course!

On the griswold, NICE stuff! Mine is all no name because it's so old, no
one tracks names of it anymore. There are 2 newer pieces though. One I
bought new about 25 years ago and one I got at a 'swapmeet' from a fellow
who said he'd gotten it for his wife 10 years earlier making it a baby of 40
years now. The other pieces, one is known to be at least 1850's and may be
earlier. The others, probably closer to circa 1900 or so is a guess. Some
of them were made to be used over a fireplace but work fine on my gas range
and can sit in the ashes of a fireplace as well (or out camping).

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> exactly they only became totally flat as time passed, please look up the
> value of your peices so they don't get thrown away as unwanted, i don't
> have my book anymore but you might be shocked at their value, as i KNOW
> what you have is well maintained, and since you know the history and can
> sell that with the peice, it will add to their value to a real collector,
>
> lee, saying this knowing you won't ever get rid of them

Grin, none of mine are totally flat though some almost are. I guess it
depends on how they've been treated over the ages?

I am a little curious on the age of my favorite spider. I have the distinct
impression the knobs on the bottom used to be longer and the rounded bottom
may not have had a flat spot? The 'legs' are a little uneven now. It comes
from an era where cooking in the fireplace was still done? The design at
least, shows this clearly from the way it has lift points and brackets that
would have been used. Call it 'an early crockpot' for long slow cooking
stews. The lid isn't as tight as a crockpot and over time they have warped
so it fits well only in one direction but it works well still.

The original handle is long gone but the holes were designed to use a larger
tong and the sides where that could be applied would have alowed one to lift
it out with just 2 strong sticks or the hooked metal items of an earlier era
fit in the holes. (Allowed you to stand back from the fire in long skirts).
If there was ever an idenifying makers mark, it is long gone.

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"Boron Elgar" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>>> I dread replacing it, as I am sure the newest ones are not as well
>>> made.

>>I've heard you say that before about cast iron but no one else? That must
>>be an exceptional unit!

> It is the first stove top of the sort that I have had, so I can make
> no comparisons, but hence my dread.

I was in an apartment once, had no choice about it. I was at first very
happy with it's spiffy looks but it wasnt the quality unit you have. I've
used other lower quality units as well when at friends houses and while they
look spiffy (I really do like the looks), they don't work for me personally.
I'm too turned off by early experiences with cheaper types.

>>I would never use my cast iron on one though. For one thing, my cast iron
>>have a ridged bottom so you don't get total contact. You'd just get the

> I have lot of different cast iron pots and pans, from pre-seasoned
> Lodge to Le Creuset in cost, from 60+years old to newly purchased.
> Obviously, anything new I buy has a flat bottom, unless I plan on
> using it only for baking.

Makes sense! I dont *think* they used to make them totally flat bottomed.
They just get that way over time with the older ones.

>>What we all need, is based on our cookery habits. Now don't mind me, I'm
>>dusting out the oven. I plan to use it sometime in the next month or so.
>>Maybe (grin).
>
> Now, I didn't say I prefer glass top or recommend it to anyone else,
> but the kitchen isn't piped for gas, and recommendations along these
> lines are not my style, for the reason you state...you buy what you
> prefer for your own kitchen.

Grin, I 'prefer' gas for the range top for the control level it provides but
for oven I've a preference for electric. I use the oven so randomly that
the temp stability of electrics seem better and no gas outlet holes to clean
of char appeals.

> I have an over-the-range- microwave, too, which Lee ruled out because
> of large pots. My stove and micro are situated so that large pots -
> the ones I call "baby boilers," fit quite comfortably. I also have an
> under-micro exhaust that vents to the outside, too.

I don't have an exaust vent at all though Don wants to add one. I have a
microwave but we've loaned it out for 2-3 months at a time to friends just
moving in (military) who are waiting for household goods to arrive from
overseas. When gone, we actually appreciate the counterspace back more than
miss it.

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> he does use the oven quite a bit, and many of the recipes i create are
> oven types

I have some where an oven is mandated. Not many though. I mostly creat
crockpot or stovetop things.

> lol... and speaking of ovens, what does everyone think of the self
> cleaning function and of that timer function where you put something in
> and it turns on and cooks when you set it to, the oven we had actually had
> it but we never used it because we were both a little creeped out by the
> idea of food sitting in there and not being cooked,

Umm, never used either feature nor has Don. I do use the timer though to
beep as us when i have something in the oven or on the top. That's inscase
I forget and wander off.

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> we haven't definitely decided on gas or el. dh used to prefer gas but we
> have used el for so long he doesn't want to change in a big way, el would
> be easier for me but when i do cook its usually slow cooker or nuker, so
> whatever he wants is what we will get, also because we will have gas heat
> i think we will get lines run to the stove and dryer areas just in case we
> want to change later.

Works. Also, electric *might* be a little safer if you want to use the
range top? You'll need a 220 plug for an electric range and a 110 for a gas
one (for the electric starter).

> he really is leaning towards the sleep number, which is kinda exciting for
> me as it means i will be able to change the sheets on my own, i am too
> short and my arms are too short to change the water bed sheets, but i will
> miss those sewn on top sheets, Lee

Grin, I let Don do the sheets most of the time. Same reason of reach.

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sometimes if there isn't a name outright, the markings/numbers/symbols mean
something, and also beleive it or not, type of feet and handles can help
identify the age/brand.

we haven chosen a stove yet as the time for that isn't just yet, i am just
fretting about everything even stuff that is a couple months away still... i
should be focusing on other things but when i get overwhelmed as i said to
sf, i fall back to one detail/item at a time to try and keep my head from
exploding... for example i was thinking this morning maybe i will see if dh
wants to buy a double or queen sleep number to see if it works for him and
then we can use it in the guest room, on the other hand... not sure i want
that nice of a bed... might make the guests stay longer than i want, lol,
Lee
"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> "Storrmmee" wrote
>
>> we had a regular stove before but i originally wanted a built in double
>> oven as my mom has one and loves it... however the cheapo model at home
>> depot is almost 3k, and as we discussed replacement that went out the
>> window. you are right, the cast iron was one of the few things we were
>> able to save, i have a rather extensive collection of griswald that is an
>> in use collectable,
>
> Ah, I lost track fast on the 'dream kitchen' thread you had. Too many
> didn't trim posts at all and it was unreadable to my view within a day or
> so.
>
> They have some very nice double ovens with range top combined. Have you
> selected one yet? I was looking at one when we replaced our old gas range
> at last this past spring but it was more based on the range part which we
> use. It's not a joke that I have to almost dust out the oven even today
> (and literally had to in Japan as we used it so seldom). Boron would be
> horrified (grin). I'd be equally horrified at someone having to dust off
> a crockpot of course!
>
> On the griswold, NICE stuff! Mine is all no name because it's so old, no
> one tracks names of it anymore. There are 2 newer pieces though. One I
> bought new about 25 years ago and one I got at a 'swapmeet' from a fellow
> who said he'd gotten it for his wife 10 years earlier making it a baby of
> 40 years now. The other pieces, one is known to be at least 1850's and
> may be earlier. The others, probably closer to circa 1900 or so is a
> guess. Some of them were made to be used over a fireplace but work fine
> on my gas range and can sit in the ashes of a fireplace as well (or out
> camping).
>

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:59:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> No 1/16th inch or more rim?

Nope, no raised part. No indentations either... it's completely flat.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:58:37 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> exactly they only became totally flat as time passed, please look up the
> value of your peices so they don't get thrown away as unwanted, i don't have
> my book anymore but you might be shocked at their value, as i KNOW what you
> have is well maintained, and since you know the history and can sell that
> with the peice, it will add to their value to a real collector,
>

Mine are "no name" cast iron, so no value. Some pieces came to me via
my mother and she through her mother, I don't know the history beyond
that. But I know I purchased a couple of equally nameless pieces
myself from the hardware store back in the acquisition stage of my
life.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:57:39 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Grin, none of mine are totally flat though some almost are. I guess it
> depends on how they've been treated over the ages?

No. They came that way.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:53:32 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> and speaking of ovens, what does everyone think of the self cleaning
> function

I absolutely love it. I have double wall ovens. One is self cleaning
the other one isn't.... guess which one is my go to oven and which one
is reserved for bread and other "clean" items?

> and of that timer function where you put something in and it turns
> on and cooks when you set it to, the oven we had actually had it but we
> never used it because we were both a little creeped out by the idea of food
> sitting in there and not being cooked,

Ditto. I've never even considered that function. Didn't know it was
still an option.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:19:13 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> "Storrmmee" wrote
>
> > he does use the oven quite a bit, and many of the recipes i create are
> > oven types
>
> I have some where an oven is mandated. Not many though. I mostly creat
> crockpot or stovetop things.
>
> > lol... and speaking of ovens, what does everyone think of the self
> > cleaning function and of that timer function where you put something in
> > and it turns on and cooks when you set it to, the oven we had actually had
> > it but we never used it because we were both a little creeped out by the
> > idea of food sitting in there and not being cooked,
>
> Umm, never used either feature nor has Don.

It occurred to me (after send was hit in my previous post) that -
maybe that function is good for people who freeze entire casseroles .
They can let it thaw in the oven for a few hours and then the oven
kicks on to bake it.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:28:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Grin, I let Don do the sheets most of the time. Same reason of reach.

My husband does it too. Do you have one of those deep mattresses?
What a PITA to change the sheets!

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"sf" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>> Grin, none of mine are totally flat though some almost are. I guess it
>> depends on how they've been treated over the ages?

> No. They came that way.

Thats makes sense with the new flat ranges. I don't know why the older
stuff wasnt. I just know it wasnt.

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"sf" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>> Grin, I let Don do the sheets most of the time. Same reason of reach.

> My husband does it too. Do you have one of those deep mattresses?
> What a PITA to change the sheets!

Yup. He selected it thinking it would be better for my back. Now I have a
bed I can't comfortably get up on and can't use for more than 2-3 hours.

Ah well! It works nicely for his back ;-)

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Storrmmee wrote:
> your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have
> the nuker above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the
> effort to turn it on, Lee

It depends how you install them, they can also vent to the
outside, all of the ones I looked at. Not saying they are the
greatest fans made or anything.

nancy

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its still there but not pushed like it used to be, i guess if i got out a
cassarole or stuffed cabbage or something maybe but probably not, Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:53:32 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> and speaking of ovens, what does everyone think of the self cleaning
>> function
>
> I absolutely love it. I have double wall ovens. One is self cleaning
> the other one isn't.... guess which one is my go to oven and which one
> is reserved for bread and other "clean" items?
>
>> and of that timer function where you put something in and it turns
>> on and cooks when you set it to, the oven we had actually had it but we
>> never used it because we were both a little creeped out by the idea of
>> food
>> sitting in there and not being cooked,
>
> Ditto. I've never even considered that function. Didn't know it was
> still an option.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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lol, great minds and all that, Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:19:13 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> "Storrmmee" wrote
>>
>> > he does use the oven quite a bit, and many of the recipes i create are
>> > oven types
>>
>> I have some where an oven is mandated. Not many though. I mostly creat
>> crockpot or stovetop things.
>>
>> > lol... and speaking of ovens, what does everyone think of the self
>> > cleaning function and of that timer function where you put something in
>> > and it turns on and cooks when you set it to, the oven we had actually
>> > had
>> > it but we never used it because we were both a little creeped out by
>> > the
>> > idea of food sitting in there and not being cooked,
>>
>> Umm, never used either feature nor has Don.
>
> It occurred to me (after send was hit in my previous post) that -
> maybe that function is good for people who freeze entire casseroles .
> They can let it thaw in the oven for a few hours and then the oven
> kicks on to bake it.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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he didn't see any of those, but he got pretty tired of looking pretty
quickly when he didn't see what was in his mind to buy right off, now he is
looking on line because there isn't a sales person harrassing him, Lee
"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
om...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>> your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have
>> the nuker above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the
>> effort to turn it on, Lee
>
> It depends how you install them, they can also vent to the outside, all of
> the ones I looked at. Not saying they are the
> greatest fans made or anything.
> nancy

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Storrmmee wrote:
> he didn't see any of those, but he got pretty tired of looking pretty
> quickly when he didn't see what was in his mind to buy right off, now
> he is looking on line because there isn't a sales person harrassing
> him, Lee "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> om...
>> Storrmmee wrote:
>>> your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have
>>> the nuker above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the
>>> effort to turn it on, Lee
>>
>> It depends how you install them, they can also vent to the outside,
>> all of the ones I looked at. Not saying they are the
>> greatest fans made or anything.

You wouldn't tell by looking at them. When you install them
is when you'd determine if you wanted the air to go out the
ductwork or to recirculate.

I hate shopping with salespeople over my shoulder, too.

nancy

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:42:09 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> for example i was thinking this morning maybe i will see if dh
> wants to buy a double or queen sleep number

I'll solve that problem for you. Buy a queen. They aren't monsters
like Kings, but they're enough wider than a double that it feels
roomy.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:49:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> "sf" wrote
> > "cshenk" wrote:
>
> >> Grin, none of mine are totally flat though some almost are. I guess it
> >> depends on how they've been treated over the ages?
>
> > No. They came that way.
>
> Thats makes sense with the new flat ranges. I don't know why the older
> stuff wasnt. I just know it wasnt.

But even the stuff I got from my grandparents are perfectly flat.
There were no smooth top stoves in their life when they were alive and
cooking. It never occurred to me that cast iron would come any other
way until this thread, because smooth bottomed is all I know.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:18 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

>your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have the nuker
>above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the effort to turn it on,
>Lee

The stove was fabulous 17 years ago and is excellent in the cooktop
and the oven, but cosmetically, it is a wreck and that bothers me.

The above the range microwave has nothing to do with the stove itself,
though. It is a separate unit altogether and been replaced a couple of
times in the past 18 years.

Boron

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cshenk wrote:
> "sf" wrote
>> "cshenk" wrote:
>
>>> Grin, I let Don do the sheets most of the time. Same reason of reach.
>
>> My husband does it too. Do you have one of those deep mattresses?
>> What a PITA to change the sheets!
>
> Yup. He selected it thinking it would be better for my back. Now I
> have a bed I can't comfortably get up on and can't use for more than 2-3
> hours.
>
> Ah well! It works nicely for his back ;-)
>
LOL re the getting up part. I got a new thick mattress for one of
the bedrooms in the new house. It's quite comfortable, but I am
thinking back to the bed step my mom had. It is really hard for
me to get into that bed. I was thinking I'd take that mattress
off of the box springs and frame and put it in my lower platform
bed frame. But someone just told me that there is more than one
queen size, so I have some measuring to do.

--
Jean B.

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Nancy Young wrote:
> Storrmmee wrote:
>> your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have
>> the nuker above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the
>> effort to turn it on, Lee
>
> It depends how you install them, they can also vent to the outside, all
> of the ones I looked at. Not saying they are the
> greatest fans made or anything.
> nancy

As I have said, I abhorred the setup in the old house, which was
the microwave and fan above the stove. That was one of the few
things I changed in that kitchen.

--
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one of the things he always asks for is the manuals for something he is
interested in, he used to enjoy messying with sales people when they got
pushy but just now even that is too much hassel, Lee
"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
om...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>> he didn't see any of those, but he got pretty tired of looking pretty
>> quickly when he didn't see what was in his mind to buy right off, now
>> he is looking on line because there isn't a sales person harrassing
>> him, Lee "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> om...
>>> Storrmmee wrote:
>>>> your stove must be fabulous, the few units dh looked that did have
>>>> the nuker above had only a wimpy in the room fan, not worth the
>>>> effort to turn it on, Lee
>>>
>>> It depends how you install them, they can also vent to the outside,
>>> all of the ones I looked at. Not saying they are the
>>> greatest fans made or anything.
>
> You wouldn't tell by looking at them. When you install them is when you'd
> determine if you wanted the air to go out the
> ductwork or to recirculate.
>
> I hate shopping with salespeople over my shoulder, too.
>
> nancy

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hhhmmm but like i said... do i want THAT comfy of a bed in my guest room?
lol, Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:42:09 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> for example i was thinking this morning maybe i will see if dh
>> wants to buy a double or queen sleep number
>
> I'll solve that problem for you. Buy a queen. They aren't monsters
> like Kings, but they're enough wider than a double that it feels
> roomy.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:24:09 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> hhhmmm but like i said... do i want THAT comfy of a bed in my guest room?
> lol, Lee
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:42:09 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> for example i was thinking this morning maybe i will see if dh
> >> wants to buy a double or queen sleep number
> >
> > I'll solve that problem for you. Buy a queen. They aren't monsters
> > like Kings, but they're enough wider than a double that it feels
> > roomy.
> >
That part is up to you. For me, the answer is yes.

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