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She won, of course... the opposition always beats him senseless in
that show . However, he had two recipes I was interested in

- brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter

<http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/roasted-brussels-sprouts-with-pomegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses

- pumpkin bread pudding
<http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pumpkin-bread-pudding-with-spicy-caramel-apple-sauce-and-vanilla-bean-creme-anglaise-recipe/index.html>
I'd limit the topping to crème angelaise or whipped cream.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
> >
> > <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...sprouts-with-p
> > omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> > I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>
> I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
> can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
> sweet anything with savory.
>
I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.

--

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On 11/23/2010 11:00 AM, sf wrote:
>
> She won, of course... the opposition always beats him senseless in
> that show . However, he had two recipes I was interested in
>
> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>
> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/roasted-brussels-sprouts-with-pomegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>
> - pumpkin bread pudding
> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pumpkin-bread-pudding-with-spicy-caramel-apple-sauce-and-vanilla-bean-creme-anglaise-recipe/index.html>
> I'd limit the topping to crème angelaise or whipped cream.
>

The pumpkin bread pudding sounds great.

Though I do have to say, I've made some of his recipes and haven't been
impressed, though I've made many of Ree's recipes and they found places
in permanent rotation. So I'm not all that big on bobby flay. And he
strikes me as kind of a dick.

--
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On 11/23/2010 1:42 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > wrote:
>
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>>>
>>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...sprouts-with-p
>>> omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
>>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>>
>> I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
>> can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
>> sweet anything with savory.
>>
> I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.
>

I'd leave out the brussels sprouts. ;-)

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sf wrote:
> She won, of course... the opposition always beats him senseless in
> that show . However, he had two recipes I was interested in
>
> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>
> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/roasted-brussels-sprouts-with-pomegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>
> - pumpkin bread pudding
> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pumpkin-bread-pudding-with-spicy-caramel-apple-sauce-and-vanilla-bean-creme-anglaise-recipe/index.html>
> I'd limit the topping to crème angelaise or whipped cream.

Isn't bread pudding just plain good by definition? As long as you don't
overcook it, what could be bad?

-S-

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On 11/23/2010 2:32 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> She won, of course... the opposition always beats him senseless in
>> that show . However, he had two recipes I was interested in
>>
>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>>
>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/roasted-brussels-sprouts-with-pomegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>>
>> - pumpkin bread pudding
>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pumpkin-bread-pudding-with-spicy-caramel-apple-sauce-and-vanilla-bean-creme-anglaise-recipe/index.html>
>> I'd limit the topping to crème angelaise or whipped cream.
>
> Isn't bread pudding just plain good by definition? As long as you don't
> overcook it, what could be bad?
>
> -S-
>
>

and bread made out of pumpkin bread HAS too be good!

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:56:26 -0500, ravenlynne
> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 1:42 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> In >,
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...sprouts-with-p
> >>> omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> >>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
> >>
> >> I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
> >> can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
> >> sweet anything with savory.
> >>
> > I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.
> >
>
> I'd leave out the brussels sprouts. ;-)

We differ vastly then. I *LOVE* brussels sprouts, especially when
they're oven roasted.

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On 11/23/2010 3:09 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:56:26 -0500, ravenlynne
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2010 1:42 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In >,
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...sprouts-with-p
>>>>> omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
>>>>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>>>>
>>>> I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
>>>> can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
>>>> sweet anything with savory.
>>>>
>>> I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.
>>>
>>
>> I'd leave out the brussels sprouts. ;-)
>
> We differ vastly then. I *LOVE* brussels sprouts, especially when
> they're oven roasted.
>

theyre bitter...no mater what.

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ravenlynne > wrote in
:

> On 11/23/2010 3:09 PM, sf wrote:

>>
>> We differ vastly then. I *LOVE* brussels sprouts, especially when
>> they're oven roasted.
>>
>
> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>


They're good to use for pig food. They love them.

But then, pigs'll eat just about anything.

I even fed a pig crispy bacon one day :-)

--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
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whether it's a full Sunday roast or a jam sandwich,
but only when done with love.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:55:54 -0500, ravenlynne
> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 11:00 AM, sf wrote:
> >
> > She won, of course... the opposition always beats him senseless in
> > that show . However, he had two recipes I was interested in
> >
> > - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
> >
> > <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/roasted-brussels-sprouts-with-pomegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> > I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
> >
> > - pumpkin bread pudding
> > <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pumpkin-bread-pudding-with-spicy-caramel-apple-sauce-and-vanilla-bean-creme-anglaise-recipe/index.html>
> > I'd limit the topping to crème angelaise or whipped cream.
> >
>
> The pumpkin bread pudding sounds great.

It did! I had to find out what it was... it's "pumpkin bread" pudding
(bread pudding made with pumpkin bread), not pumpkin "bread pudding"
(bread pudding with pumpkin puree). That was a revelation right there
and it turned out there were lots of other recipes for it on the
internet.
>
> Though I do have to say, I've made some of his recipes and haven't been
> impressed, though I've made many of Ree's recipes and they found places
> in permanent rotation. So I'm not all that big on bobby flay.

I don't make his recipes, but I don't make anybody's recipes... one or
two here or there. That's about it. I actively didn't like him in
the past, but I've been catching his Boy Meets Grill lately and like
that one. It's not one of those things where I have to rush off and
find the recipe, but the shows have a lot of grilling ideas and I like
the idea of making so many different things on a charcoal grill.

> And he strikes me as kind of a dick.

I used to think so too, but I'm neutral on the subject now. I did
*not* like Ree Drummond on that show. She struck me as a
self-absorbed snot.

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> I used to think so too, but I'm neutral on the subject now. *I did
> *not* like Ree Drummond on that show. *She struck me as a
> self-absorbed snot.
>
> --

Yeah, kinda, me, too.

N.

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On Nov 23, 10:55*am, ravenlynne > wrote:


> Though I do have to say, I've made some of his recipes and haven't been
> impressed, though I've made many of Ree's recipes and they found places
> in permanent rotation. *So I'm not all that big on bobby flay. *And he
> strikes me as kind of a dick.


Thank you, ...I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks he's a bit of
a dick. But some of his grill stuff is good. He really is a very
good cook...just an ass.

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On 11/23/2010 3:21 PM, sf wrote:

> I used to think so too, but I'm neutral on the subject now. I did
> *not* like Ree Drummond on that show. She struck me as a
> self-absorbed snot.
>

It may have been nerves...I've seen her other places and read her blog
and she seems down to earth.

I have no idea how I'd be on camera. Probably loud, stiff, and
constantly freezing up. I get terrible stage fright.

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Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>>
>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...sprouts-with-p
>> omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>
> I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
> can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
> sweet anything with savory.

Vanilla does not always come combined with sugar. I ended up taking it
out of the sweet category in my mental classification then it seemed a
natural option in savory dishes to me. I now think of it as an aromatic
ingredient not as a sweet ingredient.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> wrote:

> theyre bitter...no mater what.

I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
them?

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On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> > wrote:
>
>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>
> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
> them?
>

They're bitter no matter what I've done.

You seem combative today...are you ok?

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:53:32 -0500, ravenlynne
> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> theyre bitter...no mater what.
> >
> > I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
> > that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
> > them?
> >
>
> They're bitter no matter what I've done.

What have you done? I won't try to convince a vegetable hater to like
them, but they can do the rest of us a favor and pipe down about how
"bad" they think vegetables are.
>
> You seem combative today...are you ok?

I'm fine. I could ask you the same thing.

--

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:31:27 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > sf > wrote:
> > >
> > > > - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...els-sprouts-wi
> > > > th-p
> > > > omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> > > > I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
> > >
> > > I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
> > > can't imagine it tasting good. But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
> > > sweet anything with savory.
> > >
> > I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.
>
> I'd try it if it was served to me.

Did I say I wouldn't? If I *made* it, I'd leave the vanilla and nuts
out of it. I may leave the molasses out of it too because I don't
feel like hunting for any. That leaves pomegranate seeds. It's a
start.

> I make shredded brussels sprouts
> with chopped, toasted pecans.
>
I just cut them in half, but I'll try them shredding them someday.

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On 11/23/2010 5:45 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:53:32 -0500, ravenlynne
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>>>
>>> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
>>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
>>> them?
>>>
>>
>> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
>
> What have you done? I won't try to convince a vegetable hater to like
> them, but they can do the rest of us a favor and pipe down about how
> "bad" they think vegetables are.

So because I dislike brussels sprouts I'm a veg hater and apparently
dislike all veggies? Because I dislike them I should pipe down? Yeah,
you're not combative at all.

>>
>> You seem combative today...are you ok?
>
> I'm fine. I could ask you the same thing.

I'm not until I'm told I'm no longer allowed to express my opinion.



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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:01:37 -0500, ravenlynne
> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 5:45 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:53:32 -0500, ravenlynne
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
> >>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
> >>> them?
> >>>
> >>
> >> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
> >
> > What have you done? I won't try to convince a vegetable hater to like
> > them, but they can do the rest of us a favor and pipe down about how
> > "bad" they think vegetables are.
>
> So because I dislike brussels sprouts I'm a veg hater and apparently
> dislike all veggies? Because I dislike them I should pipe down? Yeah,
> you're not combative at all.

You said very plainly elsewhere that you dislike all vegetables
because your mother or grandmother cooked them to death. I asked you
where your dislike came from before I saw that post. I wondered if it
was genetic, but then you indicated that you were conditioned to
dislike them. It's a simple explanation. No reason to be so
defensive.
>
> >>
> >> You seem combative today...are you ok?
> >
> > I'm fine. I could ask you the same thing.
>
> I'm not until I'm told I'm no longer allowed to express my opinion.



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"sf" > wrote in message
...

> You said very plainly elsewhere that you dislike all vegetables
> because your mother or grandmother cooked them to death. I asked you
> where your dislike came from before I saw that post. I wondered if it
> was genetic, but then you indicated that you were conditioned to
> dislike them. It's a simple explanation. No reason to be so
> defensive.

I take it you missed the comment before that where she said....

"but I'm just now getting to like them"

She then went on to say....

I was raised by my grandmother who boiled everything almost to whiteness.
Horrible stuff, veggies were. Broccoli isn't meant to be yellow mush.


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On 11/24/2010 6:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> You said very plainly elsewhere that you dislike all vegetables
>> because your mother or grandmother cooked them to death. I asked you
>> where your dislike came from before I saw that post. I wondered if it
>> was genetic, but then you indicated that you were conditioned to
>> dislike them. It's a simple explanation. No reason to be so
>> defensive.
>
> I take it you missed the comment before that where she said....
>
> "but I'm just now getting to like them"
>
> She then went on to say....
>
> I was raised by my grandmother who boiled everything almost to whiteness.
> Horrible stuff, veggies were. Broccoli isn't meant to be yellow mush.
>
>

Reading skills would have solved that problem.. I live many veggies now.

Thanks ophelia.

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On 11/24/2010 12:12 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:01:37 -0500, ravenlynne
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2010 5:45 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:53:32 -0500, ravenlynne
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
>>>>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
>>>>> them?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
>>>
>>> What have you done? I won't try to convince a vegetable hater to like
>>> them, but they can do the rest of us a favor and pipe down about how
>>> "bad" they think vegetables are.
>>
>> So because I dislike brussels sprouts I'm a veg hater and apparently
>> dislike all veggies? Because I dislike them I should pipe down? Yeah,
>> you're not combative at all.
>
> You said very plainly elsewhere that you dislike all vegetables
> because your mother or grandmother cooked them to death.
I asked you
> where your dislike came from before I saw that post.

Well ok then. And I read Ophelia's response before this one, so I
apologize for my response to her post. Maybe stress of holidays is
getting to all of us.

I wondered if it
> was genetic, but then you indicated that you were conditioned to
> dislike them.

Nah, and I adore cilantro. Soapy taste and all ;-p

It's a simple explanation. No reason to be so
> defensive.

I'm not being defensive. I simply don't feel that I'm required to
explain every single way I've tried brussels sprouts, just as I don't
require you to justify why you may or may not like a certain thing.

FWIW, I've tried them cut into halves and roasted with a bit of salt and
olive oil. I've also sauteed them with pancetta and drizzled with
balsamic. They are absolutely adorable little things and look as though
they should be delicious. There's just the flavor that is, I believe,
part of what they are, that no matter how I've had them prepared, they
include. (that was a lot of commas.) I'm not going to waste any more
money trying them any other way. There are other veggies that will fill
my plate. :-)



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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:40:20 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > You said very plainly elsewhere that you dislike all vegetables
> > because your mother or grandmother cooked them to death. I asked you
> > where your dislike came from before I saw that post. I wondered if it
> > was genetic, but then you indicated that you were conditioned to
> > dislike them. It's a simple explanation. No reason to be so
> > defensive.
>
> I take it you missed the comment before that where she said....
>
> "but I'm just now getting to like them"
>
> She then went on to say....
>
> I was raised by my grandmother who boiled everything almost to whiteness.
> Horrible stuff, veggies were. Broccoli isn't meant to be yellow mush.
>
>
> --
That's what I read after I asked the question.

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On Nov 23, 4:53*pm, ravenlynne > wrote:
> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> > > *wrote:
>
> >> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>
> > I don't know where that comes from. *Maybe it's a gene like the one
> > that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. *Don't you season
> > them?
>
> They're bitter no matter what I've done.

Two things occur to me immediately:

1. Your sensory apparatus might be unusually sensitive to bitter
tastes.

2. People differ in their enjoyment of bitter flavors, and an
individual's
appreciation (or lack thereof) of bitter flavors can change over
time.

Your not liking brussels sprouts leaves more for those who do.
(Although
it really isn't a zero-sum game.) You're entitled to your
preferences; sf
certainly has some of her own.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:43:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> You're entitled to your preferences; sf certainly has some of her own.

So I don't like nutmeg. <shrug> I like beets. I even like liver &
tongue and I love escargots. What's that laundry list of things you
don't like?

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On 11/29/2010 9:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:53 pm, > wrote:
>> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>>
>>> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
>>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
>>> them?
>>
>> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
>
> Two things occur to me immediately:
>
> 1. Your sensory apparatus might be unusually sensitive to bitter
> tastes.

very well could be. Most foods that can be described as having a slight
bitterness (kale, collard greens, brussels, turnips, rutabega) all taste
horrible to me, almost to the point of triggering my gag reflex. There
are so many other vegetables that are awesome, that I get a sufficient
intake.

DIfferent strokes for different folks. I adore beans, and most people I
know personally don't like them.

More for you! keep the brussels' growers in business!

And no one is arguing that sf can have things that she doesn't like.
I'd be interested to know what they are, as I haven't seen her post them.


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On 11/29/2010 12:20 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:43:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> You're entitled to your preferences; sf certainly has some of her own.
>
> So I don't like nutmeg.<shrug> I like beets. I even like liver&
> tongue and I love escargots. What's that laundry list of things you
> don't like?
>

I don't care for the consistency of escargot (tastes great!) so i must
have had it poorly prepared. Liver is all a mind thing to me...no
thanks. Beets are yummy. So is nutmeg, but in small amounts. Cumin is
frequently overdone in dishes...

Wow, This has got me thinking! I never thought of myself as picky, but
I have a long list.

radishes
chicken wings (since I had to dissect one for class last month)
liver
head cheeses
mussels
rice a roni mix
split pea soup
lima beans
cream style corn out of a can
stove top
canned potatoes, asparagus, 3 bean salad and spinach
most organ meats
dill pickles (but I like sweet gherkins)

I've tried duck, rabbit and venison once each and didn't like them, but
I suspect that it was the preparation and not the meat itself. Duck was
on a chinese buffet (I know I know, and I will give it another chance),
the rabbit was done braised I guess in some sort of bbq sauce by my
cajun cousin. It was worse than eating fish with all the bones. The
venison steak I had was, IMO, really really gamey.

My list of things I like is sooo much longer. Right now I'm dreaming of
artichokes though i don't think they're in season?





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Currently reading: The Chalice by Phil Rickman and The Walking Dead vol 3

Throwdown: Bobby Flay vs. Poineer Woman
 

On Nov 29, 12:24*pm, ravenlynne > wrote:
> On 11/29/2010 9:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 4:53 pm, > *wrote:
> >> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> >>> > * *wrote:
>
> >>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>
> >>> I don't know where that comes from. *Maybe it's a gene like the one
> >>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. *Don't you season
> >>> them?
>
> >> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
>
> > Two things occur to me immediately:
>
> > 1. *Your sensory apparatus might be unusually sensitive to bitter
> > tastes.
>
> very well could be. Most foods that can be described as having a slight
> bitterness (kale, collard greens, brussels, turnips, rutabega) all taste
> horrible to me, almost to the point of triggering my gag reflex. *There
> are so many other vegetables that are awesome, that I get a sufficient
> intake.
>
> DIfferent strokes for different folks. *I adore beans, and most people I
> know personally don't like them.
>
> More for you! *keep the brussels' growers in business!
>
> And no one is arguing that sf can have things that she doesn't like.

I never meant to imply that. I was trying to say that your
preferences
are as valid as hers. (But mine are The Law ;)

I find that as I age, bitter tastes are not as objectionable as they
were when I was young. My husband, however, hates things that
are bitter (except coffee, for some reason). (His father won't
eat broccoli, and I hypothesize it's because it tastes bitter
to him.)

Cindy Hamilton

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On 11/29/2010 1:26 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Nov 29, 12:24 pm, > wrote:
>> On 11/29/2010 9:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 4:53 pm, > wrote:
>>>> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
>>>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>>
>>>>> I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
>>>>> that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
>>>>> them?
>>
>>>> They're bitter no matter what I've done.
>>
>>> Two things occur to me immediately:
>>
>>> 1. Your sensory apparatus might be unusually sensitive to bitter
>>> tastes.
>>
>> very well could be. Most foods that can be described as having a slight
>> bitterness (kale, collard greens, brussels, turnips, rutabega) all taste
>> horrible to me, almost to the point of triggering my gag reflex. There
>> are so many other vegetables that are awesome, that I get a sufficient
>> intake.
>>
>> DIfferent strokes for different folks. I adore beans, and most people I
>> know personally don't like them.
>>
>> More for you! keep the brussels' growers in business!
>>
>> And no one is arguing that sf can have things that she doesn't like.
>
> I never meant to imply that. I was trying to say that your
> preferences
> are as valid as hers. (But mine are The Law ;)

LOL..I like that.


> I find that as I age, bitter tastes are not as objectionable as they
> were when I was young. My husband, however, hates things that
> are bitter (except coffee, for some reason). (His father won't
> eat broccoli, and I hypothesize it's because it tastes bitter
> to him.)

Unfortunately, I haven't aged that far yet..lol. 35 years not liking
it, doubt I ever will.



--
Currently reading: The Chalice by Phil Rickman and The Walking Dead vol 3

Throwdown: (Things We Don't Like)
 

On 11/29/2010 09:34 AM, ravenlynne wrote:

> Wow, This has got me thinking! I never thought of myself as picky, but I
> have a long list.

Same here, except I sometimes do think of myself as picky. James says
I'm not picky, but that my list of dislikes is pretty odd.

cinnamon
tangerines
chocolate cake, cookies, brownies (I'm fine with a chocolate bar or
chocolate pudding)
smoked things (with a few exceptions)
turkey
alcoholic drinks, even cooked into food
Brussels sprouts (those are a pretty common hate, I think)
anything with bacon or ham in it (I like bacon fine by itself and can
tolerate ham, but put them in soup or baked goods and I don't like that)
Canadian bacon
cumin
chinese five-spice
cardamom
fresh papaya (dried, canned, frozen are fine)
almond extract, marzipan (almonds are fine)
hazelnuts with chocolate (I like each fine by itself)
fruit with chocolate (ditto)
ketchup on anything that's not fried potatoes (no ketchup on meat! no
ketchup on eggs!)
pickled cauliflower


Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

Throwdown: Bobby Flay vs. Poineer Woman
 

On Nov 23, 2:09*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:56:26 -0500, ravenlynne
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On 11/23/2010 1:42 PM, sf wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:06:39 -0800, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > > > *wrote:
>
> > >> In >,
> > >> * > *wrote:
>
> > >>> - brussel sprouts with pomegranates, pecans and vanilla butter
>
> > >>> <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/b...russels-sprout...
> > >>> omegranates-and-vanilla-pecan-butter-recipe/index.html>
> > >>> I'd simplify it, but I'm inspired to find pomegranate molasses
>
> > >> * * I know there are many fans of vanilla with savory foods, but I just
> > >> can't imagine it tasting good. *But, then, I'm not a big fan of too much
> > >> sweet anything with savory.
>
> > > I'd leave out the vanilla AND the nuts, but that's me.
>
> > I'd leave out the brussels sprouts. ;-)
>
> We differ vastly then. *I *LOVE* brussels sprouts, especially when
> they're oven roasted.

They are by far the best vegetable.

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On Nov 23, 2:21*pm, sf > wrote:
>
> I used to think so too, but I'm neutral on the subject now. *I did
> *not* like Ree Drummond on that show. *She struck me as a
> self-absorbed snot.

I couldn't agree more!

Throwdown: Bobby Flay vs. Poineer Woman
 

sf wrote:
>
> What's that laundry list of things you don't like?

My list of strong dislikes is short.

Wheat - Can't digest. I have other grains. I like it but what does
that matter if it makes me ill. Bell peppers - I have the hot ones,
pimentos, pascillas and other types of non-hot ones. Parsnips - I have
pretty much any other root veggie. The class of moldy cheese - I go
for most other cheeses and leave the mold to the EPA clean up folks
after they finish with the asbestos.

My mild dislikes have a longer list but I won't flat refuse to eat foods
with them. It might or might not be worth removing the item in question.

Cooked beets. I love them raw jullianed in a salad. Raw squash. I
love them cooked especially in a casserole. Mayo and miracle whip.
Folks who like them think they are very different, mild white goo versus
mild white goo. Have fun with that. ;^) To me it might not be
worth the effort to remove it from my food. There's probably a bunch
more but I might eat the unimpressive foods without even noticing them.
Gin. You can smell the fear of the tortured juniper trees in that
stuff. Cheap beer, nah I'm actually just a beer snob. ;^)

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 4:53 pm, ravenlynne > wrote:
> On 11/23/2010 4:48 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:51 -0500, ravenlynne
> > > wrote:
>
> >> theyre bitter...no mater what.
>
> > I don't know where that comes from. Maybe it's a gene like the one
> > that makes cilantro taste like soap to some people. Don't you season
> > them?
>
> They're bitter no matter what I've done.

Two things occur to me immediately:

1. Your sensory apparatus might be unusually sensitive to bitter
tastes.

2. People differ in their enjoyment of bitter flavors, and an
individual's
appreciation (or lack thereof) of bitter flavors can change over
time.

Your not liking brussels sprouts leaves more for those who do.
(Although
it really isn't a zero-sum game.) You're entitled to your
preferences; sf
certainly has some of her own.


---

I had never noticed cilantro tasting up soap...until I grew it! It grew
very quickly. We had hot weather that year. It began to flower. And it
tasted of soap! So maybe that's why? I have never had it in a restaurant
or from the store that tasted that way.

Throwdown: (Things We Don't Like)
 

In article >,
ravenlynne > wrote:


> My list of things I like is sooo much longer. Right now I'm dreaming of
> artichokes though i don't think they're in season?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artichoke

"The peak season for artichoke harvesting is the spring, but they
continue to be harvested throughout the summer, with another peak period
in mid autumn."

My wife came back from Costco recently with a four pack of huge
artichokes. I don't know what she paid. Almost 100% of commercial
artichokes in the US come from California.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

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On 11/29/2010 6:19 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>
>> My list of things I like is sooo much longer. Right now I'm dreaming of
>> artichokes though i don't think they're in season?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artichoke
>
> "The peak season for artichoke harvesting is the spring, but they
> continue to be harvested throughout the summer, with another peak period
> in mid autumn."
>
> My wife came back from Costco recently with a four pack of huge
> artichokes. I don't know what she paid. Almost 100% of commercial
> artichokes in the US come from California.
>

That's another thing that I eat alone, no one else in my house likes
them. I just make little bread crumb stuffing, steam them and dip them
in some lemon dip that I have a recipe for somewhere..great food for
snacking during a movie..

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Things we don't like would better be labeled "throw up".

gloria p

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On Nov 29, 2:04*pm, Serene Vannoy > wrote:
> On 11/29/2010 09:34 AM, ravenlynne wrote:
>
> > Wow, This has got me thinking! I never thought of myself as picky, but I
> > have a long list.
>
> Same here, except I sometimes do think of myself as picky. James says
> I'm not picky, but that my list of dislikes is pretty odd.
>
> cinnamon
> tangerines
> chocolate cake, cookies, brownies (I'm fine with a chocolate bar or
> chocolate pudding)
> smoked things (with a few exceptions)
> turkey
> alcoholic drinks, even cooked into food
> Brussels sprouts (those are a pretty common hate, I think)
> anything with bacon or ham in it (I like bacon fine by itself and can
> tolerate ham, but put them in soup or baked goods and I don't like that)
> Canadian bacon
> cumin
> chinese five-spice
> cardamom
> fresh papaya (dried, canned, frozen are fine)
> almond extract, marzipan (almonds are fine)
> hazelnuts with chocolate (I like each fine by itself)
> fruit with chocolate (ditto)
> ketchup on anything that's not fried potatoes (no ketchup on meat! no
> ketchup on eggs!)
> pickled cauliflower

I don't find that list to be that odd, except that you like frozen
papaya but not fresh.
>
> Serene

--Bryan

Throwdown: (Things We Don't Like)
 

On Nov 29, 11:34*am, ravenlynne > wrote:
> On 11/29/2010 12:20 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:43:20 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > *wrote:
>
> >> You're entitled to your preferences; sf certainly has some of her own.
>
> > So I don't like nutmeg.<shrug> * I like beets. *I even like liver&
> > tongue and I love escargots. *What's that laundry list of things you
> > don't like?
>
> I don't care for the consistency of escargot (tastes great!) so i must
> have had it poorly prepared. *Liver is all a mind thing to me...no
> thanks. *Beets are yummy. *So is nutmeg, but in small amounts. *Cumin is
> frequently overdone in dishes...
>
> Wow, This has got me thinking! *I never thought of myself as picky, but
> I have a long list.
>
> radishes
> chicken wings (since I had to dissect one for class last month)
> liver
> head cheeses
> mussels
> rice a roni mix
> split pea soup
> lima beans
> cream style corn out of a can
> stove top
> canned potatoes, asparagus, 3 bean salad and spinach
> most organ meats
> dill pickles (but I like sweet gherkins)
>
>
With the exception of wings and dill pickles, I dislike everything on
that list as well. I detest sweet pickles.

--Bryan