sf > wrote in news:nfdge654l3nlbjpah8htv3c6mcq5pkl1ag@
4ax.com:

> Do you have a favorite conversion calculator site to share?

My brain? We here in Canada are still hampered by remnants of the Imperial
system. Butter is sold by the 454g. Although Canada is metric (litres,
kg, etc), you cannot buy 500g of butter in a single brick, or 100g for that
matter, a much more efficient purchase and common in Europe.

Most recipes are still written in Imperial avoirdupoids and fluid measures
but more recent ones provide metric equivalences. However US publications
rarely provide metric equivalences which makes them much less useful here.

Many of the recipes I use are in Imperial, so you need to have measuring
tools with both scales or you are reduced to quick mental calculations.

Living with an antiquated and inefficient system based on the length of the
foot of a long-dead monarch, you quickly learn:

1 lb = 454g
1 kg = 2.2 lb
1/2 lb = 227g

1 tbsp = 15ml
1 tsp = 5ml
1 cup = 250ml (roughly)

From that you should be able to perform most routine calculations by
dividing and multiplying the values.

--

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross.

Sinclair Lewis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrYMafCzeE

Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:46:09 -0600:

>> Do you have a favorite conversion calculator site to share?

> My brain? We here in Canada are still hampered by remnants of
> the Imperial system. Butter is sold by the 454g. Although
> Canada is metric (litres, kg, etc), you cannot buy 500g of
> butter in a single brick, or 100g for that matter, a much more
> efficient purchase and common in Europe.

> Most recipes are still written in Imperial avoirdupoids and
> fluid measures but more recent ones provide metric
> equivalences. However US publications rarely provide metric
> equivalences which makes them much less useful here.

> Many of the recipes I use are in Imperial, so you need to have
> measuring tools with both scales or you are reduced to quick
> mental calculations.

> Living with an antiquated and inefficient system based on the
> length of the foot of a long-dead monarch, you quickly learn:

> 1 lb = 454g
> 1 kg = 2.2 lb
> 1/2 lb = 227g

> 1 tbsp = 15ml
> 1 tsp = 5ml
> 1 cup = 250ml (roughly)

> From that you should be able to perform most routine
> calculations by dividing and multiplying the values.

It makes very little difference if you use less exact conversions:
1 lb = 400g will usually do and most US measuring jugs have both metric
and customary volume scales (probably need them to sell in Canada.)
Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in news:iced6k$7t3
:

> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.

It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is 15 ml.

--

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross.

Sinclair Lewis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrYMafCzeE

Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:

>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.

> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
> 15 ml.

Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
prescription.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>
>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>
>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>> 15 ml.
>
>Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>prescription.


In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.

In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html

Methinks you mis-remember something.

Jim

Jim wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:11:47 -0500:

>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>
>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>
>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>> 15 ml.
>>
>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>> prescription.

> In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.

> In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
> http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html

> Methinks you mis-remember something.

By heaven, you're right; apologies all around! I wonder how I got so
convinced of that?

I guess I've never used anything but my little linked set of tablespoon,
1, 1/2 and 1/4 teaspoon measures and never detached the tsp to fill the
Tbsp.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote:

> Jim wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:11:47 -0500:
>
>>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>>
>>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>>
>>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>>> 15 ml.
>>>
>>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>>> prescription.
>
>> In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.
>
>> In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
>> http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html
>
>> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>
>By heaven, you're right; apologies all around! I wonder how I got so
>convinced of that?

As I get older I don't mind the stuff that I can't remember, I can
look that stuff up. But I hate all the crap that I remember
perfectly-- but incorrectly.

Jim

blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
> >
> > I'll make another pitch for the rfc web page, which in turn points to
> > the rfc FAQ:
> >
> > http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html
> >
> > There are charts to convert between various weights and volumes,
> > especially in section 2.7.5. It has a column for g/tsp (as well as
> > others) for about 150 ingredients. For the example above, there are
> > five different kinds of sugar, and twelve of flour. The conversions are
> > quite different.
>
> victor deserves some applause for putting that together.

I had very little to do with that chart. I found it on William Chuang's
Web site and it turned out it had been once posted on rfc by T. Terrell
Banks in 1990. I tracked him down, but he no longer knew where he got
the chart.

Victor

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:56:21 +0100, Victor Sack wrote:

> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll make another pitch for the rfc web page, which in turn points to
>>> the rfc FAQ:
>>>
>>> http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html
>>>
>>> There are charts to convert between various weights and volumes,
>>> especially in section 2.7.5. It has a column for g/tsp (as well as
>>> others) for about 150 ingredients. For the example above, there are
>>> five different kinds of sugar, and twelve of flour. The conversions are
>>> quite different.
>>
>> victor deserves some applause for putting that together.
>
> I had very little to do with that chart. I found it on William Chuang's
> Web site and it turned out it had been once posted on rfc by T. Terrell
> Banks in 1990. I tracked him down, but he no longer knew where he got
> the chart.
>
> Victor

i meant the FAQs in general.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> The Cook > wrote:
>>
>>> On 21 Nov 2010 14:18:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-11-21, The Cook > wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:12:06 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Convert 3 grams to teaspoons.
>>>>> 3 grams of what? It does make a difference.
>>>> That is why the conversion can't be done. One unit of measurement is
>>>> for weight and the other unit of measurement is for volume. Duh.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>> \
>>> Mastercook converts from grams to teaspoons just fine.
>>>
>>> 3 grams sugar = 3/4 teaspoon
>>> 3 grams flour = 1 1/8 teaspoons
>> I'll make another pitch for the rfc web page, which in turn points to
>> the rfc FAQ:
>>
>> http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html
>>
>> There are charts to convert between various weights and volumes,
>> especially in section 2.7.5. It has a column for g/tsp (as well as
>> others) for about 150 ingredients. For the example above, there are
>> five different kinds of sugar, and twelve of flour. The conversions are
>> quite different.
>
> victor deserves some applause for putting that together.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Oh, I was going to recommend this just today but realized that if
I flipped to rfc for Victor's post and the url I'd be marking the
posts in the other group read. Thanks again, Victor! And Blake
for reminding me to send this out.

--
Jean B.

James Silverton wrote:
> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>
>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>
>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>> 15 ml.
>
> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original prescription.
>

Some of the old books had 4 tsps per tbsp. Is that what you are
alluding to?

--
Jean B.

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>
>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>
>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>> 15 ml.
>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>> prescription.
>
>
> In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.
>
> In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
> http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html
>
> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>
> Jim

How 'bout 1896?

--
Jean B.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>>
>>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>>> 15 ml.
>>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>>> prescription.
>>
>>
>> In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.
>>
>> In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
>> http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html
>>
>> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>>
>> Jim
>
>How 'bout 1896?


Same - is Michel *that* old.<g>
http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/...hool/bost.html

Note that this is US usage-- Aussie Tablespoons are apparently
bigger. They have a 1:4 ratio. [or are their tsp's smaller?]

Jim

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>>>
>>>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>>>> 15 ml.
>>>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>>>> prescription.
>>>
>>> In my part of the US, since 1960 or so at least, 1tblsp=3tsp.
>>>
>>> In 1918 Fanny Farmer was already on board with the 3/1 rule-
>>> http://www.bartleby.com/87/0002.html
>>>
>>> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>>>
>>> Jim
>> How 'bout 1896?
>
>
> Same - is Michel *that* old.<g>
> http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/...hool/bost.html
>
> Note that this is US usage-- Aussie Tablespoons are apparently
> bigger. They have a 1:4 ratio. [or are their tsp's smaller?]
>
> Jim

I dunno--and that's why I need a set of measures from Oz. I
always (or always when I think of it) put some annotation with my
cookbooks from Oz.

If and when I run across the 4 tsps per Tbsp bit again, I'll try
to remember to post it. If not FF, it would be some other
respected cookbook author(s) of the time.

--
Jean B.

Jim Elbrecht > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>>>
>>>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>>>> 15 ml.
>>>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>>>> prescription.
>>> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>>
>>How 'bout 1896?
>
> Same - is Michel *that* old.<g>
> http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/...ncookingschool
> /bost.html
>
> Note that this is US usage-- Aussie Tablespoons are apparently
> bigger. They have a 1:4 ratio. [or are their tsp's smaller?]

I'm in Canada where the Imperial gallon was 5 quarts, not 4. Quite likely
the tbsp is larger also. Typical of the US to have smaller equipment ;-)

--

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross.

Sinclair Lewis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrYMafCzeE

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:47:15 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Same - is Michel *that* old.<g>
> > http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/...hool/bost.html
> >
> > Note that this is US usage-- Aussie Tablespoons are apparently
> > bigger. They have a 1:4 ratio. [or are their tsp's smaller?]
> >
> > Jim
>
> I dunno--and that's why I need a set of measures from Oz. I
> always (or always when I think of it) put some annotation with my
> cookbooks from Oz.
>
> If and when I run across the 4 tsps per Tbsp bit again, I'll try
> to remember to post it. If not FF, it would be some other
> respected cookbook author(s) of the time.

I knew there was a difference between American and imperial
measurements, but have never cared what it was. This chart might be
interesting/useful for you if you have more than one not-American
cookbook. http://www.sizes.com/food/kitchen_measure.htm I guess we
need to be more mindful in the future about posting recipes without
noting if they're written in American or imperial measurements.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

In article >,
"Jean B." > wrote:


> I dunno--and that's why I need a set of measures from Oz. I
> always (or always when I think of it) put some annotation with my
> cookbooks from Oz.
>
> If and when I run across the 4 tsps per Tbsp bit again, I'll try
> to remember to post it. If not FF, it would be some other
> respected cookbook author(s) of the time.

The rfc conversions page:

http://www.recfoodcooking.com/cvtunits.html

has metric, UK and US. They are 3:1, 4:1 and 3:1.

Of course, we need to remember that these are all *measuring* spoons.
Those who use their table service may find something very different. We
have bits and pieces from many different sets, and the sizes appear
quite different, although I haven't measured.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Michel Boucher wrote:
> Jim Elbrecht > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:12 -0500, "James Silverton"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michel wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:46:04 -0600:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to be picky, 1 tablespoon = 2.5 teaspoons.
>>>>>> It's actually closer to three as 1 tsp is 5 ml and 1 tbsp is
>>>>>> 15 ml.
>>>>> Sez you! Try "The Joy of Cooking" or Fannie Farmer's original
>>>>> prescription.
>>>> Methinks you mis-remember something.
>>> How 'bout 1896?
>> Same - is Michel *that* old.<g>
>> http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/...ncookingschool
>> /bost.html
>>
>> Note that this is US usage-- Aussie Tablespoons are apparently
>> bigger. They have a 1:4 ratio. [or are their tsp's smaller?]
>
> I'm in Canada where the Imperial gallon was 5 quarts, not 4. Quite likely
> the tbsp is larger also. Typical of the US to have smaller equipment ;-)
>
LOL! May I check? I LIKE doing research....

--
Jean B.

Jean B. > wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
> >>
> >> http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html
> >
> > victor deserves some applause for putting that together.
>
> Oh, I was going to recommend this just today but realized that if
> I flipped to rfc for Victor's post and the url I'd be marking the
> posts in the other group read. Thanks again, Victor! And Blake
> for reminding me to send this out.

Thank you very much, Jean and Blake, but my predecessors were the ones
who mainly put the whole thing together. I've been mainly a maintainer,
a not-too-diligent one of late...

Victor

Victor Sack wrote:
> Jean > wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:37 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://vsack.homepage.t-online.de/rfc_faq.html
>>>
>>> victor deserves some applause for putting that together.
>>
>> Oh, I was going to recommend this just today but realized that if
>> I flipped to rfc for Victor's post and the url I'd be marking the
>> posts in the other group read. Thanks again, Victor! And Blake
>> for reminding me to send this out.
>
> Thank you very much, Jean and Blake, but my predecessors were the ones
> who mainly put the whole thing together. I've been mainly a maintainer,
> a not-too-diligent one of late...
>
> Victor

Heh! Well, you are the only one here who does any such
thing--diligently or less so.

--
Jean B.