On 2010-08-10, Alex Corvinus > wrote:

> diluted with water prior to bottling. When you buy it, there are no
> waves. They assimilate and all is cool.

Yeah, "waves". LOL. No doubt an effective scare tactic by lil'
Stevie's parents to let him know they were on to him.

nb

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:12:36 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2010-08-10, Alex Corvinus > wrote:
>
>> diluted with water prior to bottling. When you buy it, there are no
>> waves. They assimilate and all is cool.
>
>Yeah, "waves". LOL. No doubt an effective scare tactic by lil'
>Stevie's parents to let him know they were on to him.
>
Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
looks a little like swirling glycerine in water. Eventually, they misc
totally, but for a while, they resist and you can see it when you hold
it up to the light.

Not that his folks *didn't* let him know they were on to him....

BTW: If you do this with 80-100 proof stuff, the effect of adding
water disappears almost immediately, but the stuff does taste watered
down, & in the case of brown liquors, the mix pales, of course. I
think you could duplicate the effect with blue curacao by adding
water, because of the high sugar content of the blue stuff. They would
not misc immediately.

So, did Steve's parents keep a jug of everclear in the house?

Alex, ruminating on the misdeeds of his youth and wishing more of them
had involved girls.... Alas, youth is wasted on the young.

On 2010-08-10, Alex Corvinus > wrote:
> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
> to vodka levels......

Back in the good ol' days, before drinking was workplace taboo, I
worked at a certain govt lab. We used 190 proof ethanol for cleaning
huge laser lenses. We also used it for national holidays and other
such celebrations by mixing up "ol' rad lab", a classic punch of the
era. Damn, that stuff would sneak up on you. Never could detect it
in the punch until it was too late and you were running to catch the
porcelain bus.

nb

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:57:59 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2010-08-10, Alex Corvinus > wrote:
>> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
>> to vodka levels......
>
>Back in the good ol' days, before drinking was workplace taboo, I
>worked at a certain govt lab. We used 190 proof ethanol for cleaning
>huge laser lenses. We also used it for national holidays and other
>such celebrations by mixing up "ol' rad lab", a classic punch of the
>era. Damn, that stuff would sneak up on you. Never could detect it
>in the punch until it was too late and you were running to catch the
>porcelain bus.
>
Ah, man, done that and been there. I made a fish house punch for the
staff one day, and even the most staid staff got absolutely snockered.

I Used dried ice to chill the punch, and I should have used plain
ice. As a result, the punch was deadly strong and the faculty simply
sat in their chairs and exclaimed how good the punch was.

They could not walk.

Alex

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:16:59 -0500, Alex Corvinus wrote:
=
> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
> to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
> soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
> looks a little like swirling glycerine in water.

Yes, exactly. You can even see it when an ice cube melts in your strait up
on the rock (multiple rocks make it harder to see).

I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:16:59 -0500, Alex Corvinus wrote:
> =
>> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
>> to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
>> soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
>> looks a little like swirling glycerine in water.
>
> Yes, exactly. You can even see it when an ice cube melts in your strait
> up
> on the rock (multiple rocks make it harder to see).
>
> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.
>


new favorite word: amopunt

new favorite phrase: amopunt of swirl wave action

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:48:24 -0400, Ala wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
>> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.
>>
>
> new favorite word: amopunt
>
> new favorite phrase: amopunt of swirl wave action

<yawn>

I hope you plan on coming up with some better material than these
ultra-lame typo comments.

ObFood: Casino El Camino for lunch today. As Seen on FoodTV. But I don't
let that stop me.
http://www.casinoelcamino.net/menu.php

-sw

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:48:24 -0400, Ala wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
>>> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.
>>>
>>
>> new favorite word: amopunt
>>
>> new favorite phrase: amopunt of swirl wave action
>
> <yawn>
>
> I hope you plan on coming up with some better material than these
> ultra-lame typo comments.
>
> ObFood: Casino El Camino for lunch today. As Seen on FoodTV. But I
> don't
> let that stop me.
> http://www.casinoelcamino.net/menu.php
>



I am going to be saying amopunt all day long today because it sounds so
cool.
your yawning at a compliment? ok so your humble
material? I have to have "material"? why do I have to have material

On 2010-08-11, Sqwertz > wrote:
> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.

LOL!.... ok, now I know what you mean. The swirl lines in the drink.
Gotchya. It's very pronounce in with dark spirits like whiskey. I
hadda laugh about the "waves" thing, waves being action that occurs on
top of a body of water. I kept trying to imagine waves crashing
against the side of the glass or over an ice cube.

nb --only on 1st cuppa joe

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:16:59 -0500, Alex Corvinus wrote:
> =
> > Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
> > to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
> > soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
> > looks a little like swirling glycerine in water.
>
> Yes, exactly. You can even see it when an ice cube melts in your strait up
> on the rock (multiple rocks make it harder to see).
>
> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.

When there are two liquids with different indexes of refraction, that
will cause this appearance. Once the two liquids have mixed completely,
there will be no more difference in refraction. Since alcohol and water
mix completely, when you were a kid, you just needed to mix the water
into the booze thoroughly before your parents got home.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:24:12 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
>> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.
>
> When there are two liquids with different indexes of refraction, that
> will cause this appearance. Once the two liquids have mixed completely,
> there will be no more difference in refraction. Since alcohol and water
> mix completely, when you were a kid, you just needed to mix the water
> into the booze thoroughly before your parents got home.

But at different densities, they will never mix completely - or at least
stay that way for very long. You could see the swirls several weeks later
after several vigorous shakes (parents weren't big drinkers).

Of course they could tell by taste first, then by the swirls for
confirmation.

-sw

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:24:12 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >> I especially see it in my Stroh 80 w/ice cube. That's how you know it's
> >> safe to drink - by the correct amopunt of swirl-wave action.
> >
> > When there are two liquids with different indexes of refraction, that
> > will cause this appearance. Once the two liquids have mixed completely,
> > there will be no more difference in refraction. Since alcohol and water
> > mix completely, when you were a kid, you just needed to mix the water
> > into the booze thoroughly before your parents got home.
>
> But at different densities, they will never mix completely - or at least
> stay that way for very long. You could see the swirls several weeks later
> after several vigorous shakes (parents weren't big drinkers).
>
> Of course they could tell by taste first, then by the swirls for
> confirmation.

Must be something else going on there, then. Some things, like oil and
water, don't ever mix, unless you add something else. Water and
alcohol, sugar or salt all mix completely, and never separate without a
lot of work. You cannot make brandy out of wine without a still. You
can leave that wine sit for a hundred years, and the alcohol will never
separate from the water. Ice is a special case, since it is a solid.
As long as it keeps melting, new water with a different index of
refraction keeps gets added.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Alex Corvinus wrote:
>
> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
> to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
> soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
> looks a little like swirling glycerine in water. Eventually, they misc
> totally, but for a while, they resist and you can see it when you hold
> it up to the light.

Why couldn't he just give the bottle a good shake
to cover up the evidence?

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:03:19 -0700, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Alex Corvinus wrote:
>>
>> Maybe not..... I've had to dilute medicinal alcohol (190 proof) down
>> to vodka levels ( changing polarity levels, for extractions in
>> soxhlet extractors), and have seen, I believe, what he describes. It
>> looks a little like swirling glycerine in water. Eventually, they misc
>> totally, but for a while, they resist and you can see it when you hold
>> it up to the light.
>
>Why couldn't he just give the bottle a good shake
>to cover up the evidence?

Actually, there is another telltale giveaway. Water and alcohol do NOT
absorb/dissolve air equally. I forget which is which, I think water
hold more dissolved gases at STP equilibrium. Anyway, when you mix
them, the two components sort of compromise on the gas-dissolving
issue and one of them degasses, releasing with lots of tiny bubbles.

Gotcha!

Alex, who always had to let the 190 proof/water mixtures stabilize
before pronouncing them ready to use.