On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:11:23 -0700, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

> I find that form of coffee to be way, way, way too sweet. I can't
> believe that people who would drink their tea with no sugar and think
> that sweettea is too syrupy can even take a sip of Vietnamese iced
> coffee. And I like my tea pretty sweet, too.

The paradox of coffee and tea drinking turns out that most people who
like one sweet don't like the other one sweet. For instance: I drink
my tea black, but take cream and sugar in my coffee.

Thai/Vietnamese tea is so different from regular black tea that the
only similarity to me is the word "tea". Thai/Vietnamese coffee isn't
popular here so the only time I've tasted it is when I bought a bag of
Thai/Vietnamese coffee and brewed it myself. Of course I didn't
prepare it well because I'd never tasted it (didn't even know what it
should look like), so I withhold judgment until I have the real thing
in a restaurant.

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:29:29 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:11:23 -0700, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > wrote:
>
>> I find that form of coffee to be way, way, way too sweet. I can't
>> believe that people who would drink their tea with no sugar and think
>> that sweettea is too syrupy can even take a sip of Vietnamese iced
>> coffee. And I like my tea pretty sweet, too.
>
> The paradox of coffee and tea drinking turns out that most people who
> like one sweet don't like the other one sweet. For instance: I drink
> my tea black, but take cream and sugar in my coffee.

i'm a sissy. i take sugar in both. (been some time since i hat hot tea,
though.)

your pal,
blake

>> I find that form of coffee to be way, way, way too sweet. I can't
>> believe that people who would drink their tea with no sugar and think
>> that sweettea is too syrupy can even take a sip of Vietnamese iced
>> coffee. And I like my tea pretty sweet, too.
>>

Ranée, I did not see your message until now. We ordered Vietnamese coffee and I was surprised to see condensed milk in the bottom of the glass. I had never ordered it before so it came as a surprise to me. It wasn't a lot of condensed milk, so it was not very sweet. I did not care for it, because it was too strong and bitter. I later learned, I could have ordered American coffee instead of Vietnamese coffee.

Becca

Becca wrote:
>
>>> I find that form of coffee to be way, way, way too sweet. I can't
>>> believe that people who would drink their tea with no sugar and think
>>> that sweettea is too syrupy can even take a sip of Vietnamese iced
>>> coffee. And I like my tea pretty sweet, too.
>>>
>>
>
> Ranée, I did not see your message until now. We ordered Vietnamese
> coffee and I was surprised to see condensed milk in the bottom of the
> glass. I had never ordered it before so it came as a surprise to me.
> It wasn't a lot of condensed milk, so it was not very sweet. I did not
> care for it, because it was too strong and bitter. I later learned, I
> could have ordered American coffee instead of Vietnamese coffee.
>
> Becca
>
>

Good coffee or tea, well brewed and fresh is very tasty to me on its own.

I don't drink tea on a regular basis so i don't know if a pot of tea
goes bitter the same way a pot of coffee can if kept to long and either
reheated or kept on a low heat.

At which point a bit of milk and sugar will alleviate the need to throw
away an undrinkably bitter fluid. And of course a teaspoon of chocolate
in a cup of reheated coffee.....
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On Jun 18, 4:10*pm, JL > wrote:
> Becca wrote:
>
> >>> * * I find that form of coffee to be way, way, way too sweet. *I can't
> >>> believe that people who would drink their tea with no sugar and think
> >>> that sweettea is too syrupy can even take a sip of Vietnamese iced
> >>> coffee. *And I like my tea pretty sweet, too.
>
> > Ran e, I did not see your message until now. We ordered Vietnamese
> > coffee and I was surprised to see condensed milk in the bottom of the
> > glass. *I had never ordered it before so it came as a surprise to me. *
> > It wasn't a lot of condensed milk, so it was not very sweet. I did not
> > care for it, because it was too strong and bitter. I later learned, I
> > could have ordered American coffee instead of Vietnamese coffee.
>
> > Becca
>
> Good coffee or tea, well brewed and fresh is very tasty to me on its own.
>
> I don't drink tea on a regular basis so i don't know if a pot of tea
> goes bitter the same way a pot of coffee can if kept to long and either
> reheated or kept on a low heat.

I turn off the heating element immediately after brewing. The coffee
cools off, and is reheated in the microwave. It never gets bitter or
nasty. If you refrigerate it, you can keep it for several days, then
just microwave it. Never heat it up on a burner, at least not w/o a
double boiler.
Those vacuum thermos thingies keep coffee nice for a long time too,
and if you like it extra hot, a short microwave will do, just make
sure not to bring it to a boil.
>
> At which point a bit of milk and sugar will alleviate the need to throw
> away an undrinkably bitter fluid. *And of course a teaspoon of chocolate
> in a cup of reheated coffee.....

When coffee goes bad, no amount of adjuncts will make it decent
again. Milk/cream and a tiny bit of sugar or Splenda is nice anyway.
I love cafe au lait.
> --
>
> Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.
>
--Bryan

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:18:26 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> wrote:

>I turn off the heating element immediately after brewing. The coffee
>cools off, and is reheated in the microwave. It never gets bitter or
>nasty. If you refrigerate it, you can keep it for several days, then
>just microwave it. Never heat it up on a burner, at least not w/o a
>double boiler.

Weeelllll... I agree that turning off the heating element keeps the
coffee from getting nasty. But it just isn't up there with the first
fresh-brewed cup. A lot of the volatile components evaporate or
decompose or whatever. That's why I finally got an Aeropress. Single
cup maker, no expensive pods, every cup tastes as good as the first.

>When coffee goes bad, no amount of adjuncts will make it decent
>again. Milk/cream and a tiny bit of sugar or Splenda is nice anyway.
>I love cafe au lait.

Though there's no accounting for taste... I have a colleague who seems
to love the dregs of the pot, after a third of a pot has been sitting
on the heater for an hour or so. Ugh.
--
Best -- Terry

On 6/22/2010 10:19 AM, Terry wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:18:26 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> > wrote:
>
>> I turn off the heating element immediately after brewing. The coffee
>> cools off, and is reheated in the microwave. It never gets bitter or
>> nasty. If you refrigerate it, you can keep it for several days, then
>> just microwave it. Never heat it up on a burner, at least not w/o a
>> double boiler.
>
> Weeelllll... I agree that turning off the heating element keeps the
> coffee from getting nasty. But it just isn't up there with the first
> fresh-brewed cup. A lot of the volatile components evaporate or
> decompose or whatever. That's why I finally got an Aeropress. Single
> cup maker, no expensive pods, every cup tastes as good as the first.
>
>> When coffee goes bad, no amount of adjuncts will make it decent
>> again. Milk/cream and a tiny bit of sugar or Splenda is nice anyway.
>> I love cafe au lait.
>
> Though there's no accounting for taste... I have a colleague who seems
> to love the dregs of the pot, after a third of a pot has been sitting
> on the heater for an hour or so. Ugh.

Was he in the Navy?

Terry wrote:
> Food Snob® > wrote:
>
>>I turn off the heating element immediately after brewing. The coffee
>>cools off, and is reheated in the microwave. It never gets bitter or
>>nasty. If you refrigerate it, you can keep it for several days, then
>>just microwave it. Never heat it up on a burner, at least not w/o a
>>double boiler.

To me the hotter the coffee is brewed the better it tastes. It's why I
like espresso drinks. To me the temperature that I actually drink the
coffee at does not much effect the taste as long as there is no pain.
It's why I tend to heat refridgerated coffee or add ice to very hot
coffee.

> Weeelllll... I agree that turning off the heating element keeps the
> coffee from getting nasty. But it just isn't up there with the first
> fresh-brewed cup. A lot of the volatile components evaporate or
> decompose or whatever. That's why I finally got an Aeropress. Single
> cup maker, no expensive pods, every cup tastes as good as the first.
>
>>When coffee goes bad, no amount of adjuncts will make it decent
>>again. Milk/cream and a tiny bit of sugar or Splenda is nice anyway.
>>I love cafe au lait.
>
> Though there's no accounting for taste... I have a colleague who seems
> to love the dregs of the pot, after a third of a pot has been sitting
> on the heater for an hour or so. Ugh.

I like bitter. My brother does not. He complains that the starbuck
claim to fame is one day they burned the coffee and then sold it
anyways. I point out that's what made them popular because a lot of
people perfer the bitter addition.

Bitter is very easily overdone, though. I like coffee that some who
don't like bitter will call burned. I do not like coffee past a very
definite threshold of how burned.

On 6/18/2010 4:10 PM, JL wrote:
>> Ranée, I did not see your message until now. We ordered Vietnamese
>> coffee and I was surprised to see condensed milk in the bottom of the
>> glass. I had never ordered it before so it came as a surprise to
>> me. It wasn't a lot of condensed milk, so it was not very sweet. I
>> did not care for it, because it was too strong and bitter. I later
>> learned, I could have ordered American coffee instead of Vietnamese
>> coffee.
>>
>> Becca
>
> Good coffee or tea, well brewed and fresh is very tasty to me on its own.
>
> I don't drink tea on a regular basis so i don't know if a pot of tea
> goes bitter the same way a pot of coffee can if kept to long and
> either reheated or kept on a low heat.
>
> At which point a bit of milk and sugar will alleviate the need to
> throw away an undrinkably bitter fluid. And of course a teaspoon of
> chocolate in a cup of reheated coffee.....

The Vietnamese use a dark French roast with chicory, and they make it
very strong. It's just not my thing. I like coffee, but I don't like it
that strong.

About once a month I will have chocolate in my coffee, right now I am
using the Torani sugar free syrups.

Becca

On Jun 18, 6:23*pm, Becca > wrote:
> On 6/18/2010 4:10 PM, JL wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Ran e, I did not see your message until now. We ordered Vietnamese
> >> coffee and I was surprised to see condensed milk in the bottom of the
> >> glass. *I had never ordered it before so it came as a surprise to
> >> me. *It wasn't a lot of condensed milk, so it was not very sweet. I
> >> did not care for it, because it was too strong and bitter. I later
> >> learned, I could have ordered American coffee instead of Vietnamese
> >> coffee.
>
> >> Becca
>
> > Good coffee or tea, well brewed and fresh is very tasty to me on its own.

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:10:29 -0700, JL > wrote:

> I don't drink tea on a regular basis so i don't know if a pot of tea
> goes bitter the same way a pot of coffee can if kept to long and either
> reheated or kept on a low heat.

It does. I personally do not like old tea, so I start with freshly
brewed tea when I make ice tea.

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