Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Smart people gained a cookie, & lost a customer and will now have to repair
their image.

DUH....

Dimitri

Mark Thorson > writes:

> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

What's the old bag moaning about? It's quite simple : you can only eat
things purchased IN the cafe. What's so difficult to understand?

On Apr 12, 1:26*pm, Bogbrush > wrote:
> Mark Thorson > writes:
> > Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> What's the old bag moaning about? It's quite simple : you can only eat
> things purchased IN the cafe. What's so difficult to understand?

She's a common criminal and should spend some time in the slammer!

On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
people equally slimy?

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

>On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
>Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
>then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
>people equally slimy?

What faggoty UK courage... they assaulted an 86 year old woman. She
shoulda kung food their cookies with her cane... at 86 I'da made those
UK pansy douchebags sopranos and given their fruitcake butts a good
bamboo ****.

brooklyn1 wrote:

> What faggoty UK courage... they assaulted an 86 year old woman. She
> shoulda kung food their cookies with her cane... at 86 I'da made those
> UK pansy douchebags sopranos and given their fruitcake butts a good
> bamboo ****.

Sheldon, I see nothing written to suggest she was assaulted. She was
verbally warned about the rules. End of story.

On 14/04/10 02:25, Janet Baraclough wrote:
> Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
> brought, she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
> Its typical DM hot air hype.
>
> Janet
>

Heh. And yet it's all over our national media here in Oz...

On Apr 14, 1:22*am, Benji Z-Man > wrote:
> On 14/04/10 02:25, Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> > * * Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
> > brought, *she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
> > * * Its typical DM hot air *hype.
>
> > * * Janet
>
> Heh. And yet it's all over our national media here in Oz...

Really? I have seen nothing in the media about it.

JB

On 14/04/10 13:10, Golden One wrote:
> On Apr 14, 1:22 am, Benji > wrote:
>> On 14/04/10 02:25, Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
>>> brought, she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
>>> Its typical DM hot air hype.
>>
>>> Janet
>>
>> Heh. And yet it's all over our national media here in Oz...
>
> Really? I have seen nothing in the media about it.
>
> JB

http://tinyurl.com/yehg3k8 - Been in the papers for a couple'a days now.

In article
>,
Golden One > wrote:

> On Apr 14, 1:22*am, Benji Z-Man > wrote:
> > On 14/04/10 02:25, Janet Baraclough wrote:
> >
> > > * * Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
> > > brought, *she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
> > > * * Its typical DM hot air *hype.
> >
> > > * * Janet
> >
> > Heh. And yet it's all over our national media here in Oz...
>
> Really? I have seen nothing in the media about it.

Hmmmm. Maybe you're watching the right kind of media? I'm sure they
have decent stuff in Oz, but the last half dozen URL that I've seen
posted on this group seemed like pretty sensationalistic stuff.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> people equally slimy?

what the hell are you talking about?

blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>
> > On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
> >>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
> >
> > Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> > then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> > people equally slimy?
>
> what the hell are you talking about?

Sounds pretty simple to me. In my state, food from the store is not
taxable, food from the restaurant *is* taxable. Lots of times, there is
both a store and a restaurant in the same room. Some times, a store
sells food that is ready to eat (think deli). Sometimes the line gets
fuzzy. Sometimes the tax people will come in, order something, tell the
cashier they are going to eat something there (maybe there's a bench in
front for people who are waiting for a ride), and wait to be charged
tax. If they don't get charged tax, they write the place up.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:39:56 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>>
>>> Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
>>> then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
>>> people equally slimy?
>>
>> what the hell are you talking about?
>
> Sounds pretty simple to me. In my state, food from the store is not
> taxable, food from the restaurant *is* taxable. Lots of times, there is
> both a store and a restaurant in the same room. Some times, a store
> sells food that is ready to eat (think deli). Sometimes the line gets
> fuzzy. Sometimes the tax people will come in, order something, tell the
> cashier they are going to eat something there (maybe there's a bench in
> front for people who are waiting for a ride), and wait to be charged
> tax. If they don't get charged tax, they write the place up.

yes, but he made it sound like the u.s. was crawling with tax people doing
sting operations on grocery stores with cafés. not that i've heard of.

your pal,
blake

On 15/04/10 08:20, blake murphy wrote:
> yes, but he made it sound like the u.s. was crawling with tax people doing
> sting operations on grocery stores with cafés. not that i've heard of.

Hmm. Well, I know that our local equivalent of your ATF enforcement will
routinely send "undercover investigators" to pubs to make sure that
things are being done properly. Having worked in security, I'd see one
about every other month - and the first notice sometimes (not always,
sometimes they were ****ing obvious) would be their flashing their
official papers to inspect the office areas under escort.

I could imagine the ATO (IRS: Oz) doing the same thing for that.

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:39:56 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> >>> Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> >>> then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> >>> people equally slimy?
> >>
> >> what the hell are you talking about?
> >
> > Sounds pretty simple to me. In my state, food from the store is not
> > taxable, food from the restaurant *is* taxable. Lots of times, there is
> > both a store and a restaurant in the same room. Some times, a store
> > sells food that is ready to eat (think deli). Sometimes the line gets
> > fuzzy. Sometimes the tax people will come in, order something, tell the
> > cashier they are going to eat something there (maybe there's a bench in
> > front for people who are waiting for a ride), and wait to be charged
> > tax. If they don't get charged tax, they write the place up.
>
> yes, but he made it sound like the u.s. was crawling with tax people doing
> sting operations on grocery stores with cafés. not that i've heard of.

Maybe the US isn't "crawling" with them, but I've run into this twice.
When you are the one getting nailed, it feels pretty slimy.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it

locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?

atec7 7 > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it
>
> locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?
Oops replied to wrong thread

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:28:33 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:

> atec7 7 > wrote:
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>
>> Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it
>>
>> locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?
> Oops replied to wrong thread

sampling a little something locally grown?

your pal,
blake

On 14/04/10 05:14, blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:28:33 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:
>
>> atec7 7> wrote:
>>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>>
>>> Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it
>>>
>>> locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?
>> Oops replied to wrong thread
>
> sampling a little something locally grown?
>
> your pal,
> blake

No! I agree! We should stop importing old people. Start growing our own!

On Apr 12, 12:57*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
lunches because they were eating with someone who
had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
and plate it properly for them.

You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
stupid as these.

They will lose customers....as well they should.

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
> lunches because they were eating with someone who
> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
> and plate it properly for them.
>
> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
> stupid as these.
>
> They will lose customers....as well they should.

Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
losing them is not a problem.

On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>
>> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
>> lunches because they were eating with someone who
>> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
>> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
>> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
>> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
>> and plate it properly for them.
>>
>> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
>> stupid as these.
>>
>> They will lose customers....as well they should.
>
> Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
> space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
> losing them is not a problem.

Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

In article >,
Benji Z-Man > wrote:

> On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
> > ImStillMags wrote:
> >> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> >>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
> >>
> >> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
> >> lunches because they were eating with someone who
> >> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
> >> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
> >> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
> >> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
> >> and plate it properly for them.
> >>
> >> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
> >> stupid as these.
> >>
> >> They will lose customers....as well they should.
> >
> > Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
> > space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
> > losing them is not a problem.
>
> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.

It's even worse in the US, as these taxes are sales taxes, and are
assessed (or not) by the 50 states. The rules are all different, and if
you aren't confused enough, the counties within the states can add on
additional taxes.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On 13/04/10 14:51, Dan Abel wrote:
> In >,
> Benji > wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark > wrote:
>>>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>>>
>>>> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
>>>> lunches because they were eating with someone who
>>>> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
>>>> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
>>>> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
>>>> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
>>>> and plate it properly for them.
>>>>
>>>> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
>>>> stupid as these.
>>>>
>>>> They will lose customers....as well they should.
>>>
>>> Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
>>> space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
>>> losing them is not a problem.
>>
>> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
>> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.
>
> Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
> article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
> purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.
>
> It's even worse in the US, as these taxes are sales taxes, and are
> assessed (or not) by the 50 states. The rules are all different, and if
> you aren't confused enough, the counties within the states can add on
> additional taxes.
>

Yeah, no here in Oz it's pretty much normal, so long as the food doesn't
seem to put the establishment at risk of OH&S violations.

And you're right, that does sound confusing >_>

In news:rec.food.cooking, Janet Baraclough >
posted on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:39:15 +0100 the following:

> The message >
> from Dan Abel > contains these words:
>
> > Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
> > article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
> > purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.
>
> In the UK there's no VAT on food bought direct from stores; but there
> is VAT on food eaten in restaurants .

In Texas, there are no sales taxes on hamburger buns, hamburger meat,
pickles, tomatoes, mayonnaise or lettuce, but if you go into a restaurant
and have those items combined to form a hamburger, there is a sales tax on
that.

Damaeus
--
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on
white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
-William Randolph Hearst

Benji Z-Man wrote:

> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

Which isn't all that much to spend when divvied up between the four of
them in the family. But I can understand how it was forbidden, because
tax (VAT) laws are in place. It doesn't always make common sense, but it
exists.

In news:rec.food.cooking, Goomba > posted on Tue, 13
Apr 2010 09:17:23 -0400 the following:

> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>
> > Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
> > daughter had - +AKM-20 worth, apparently.
>
> Which isn't all that much to spend when divvied up between the four of
> them in the family. But I can understand how it was forbidden, because
> tax (VAT) laws are in place. It doesn't always make common sense, but
> it exists.

So we should all just follow any laws they pull out of their asses? If it
gets to the point where law-abiding citizens end up breaking laws
accidentally simply because they didn't know any better, then the laws
have become too nitpicky. What's next? Are they going to require the
wearing of underwear, panties and bras and do strip searches of suspected
offenders?

Damaeus
--
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on
white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
-William Randolph Hearst

On Apr 12, 12:57*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> Food Crime on the rise in UK

The French think that British food is a crime in itself.

Hello friends

Violent crime in England and Wales is continuing to rise, while detection rates by police officers are falling.
Home Office figures unveiled on Thursday showed violent crimes increased by 4.3% in the 12 months ending in March, but 31 of the 43 police forces solved fewer cases.There are no quick wins on crime - it is a long term investment
The Home Office says that despite rising crime figures, the rate of the rise is slowing.
But a number of police chiefs have blamed a change in government crime policies for the "soaring" statistics, saying the public would be "unnerved" by the latest findings.

Thanks for all friends