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Joseph Littleshoes[_2_] 01-04-2010 09:18 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Wed 31 Mar 2010 11:03:39p, Joseph Littleshoes told us...
>
>
>>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 31, 7:55�am, WTF > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
>>>>attacking people again.
>>>>What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean everyone here?
>>>>
>>>>His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, �I
>>>>doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
>>>>changed his posting habits.
>>>
>>>
>>>People who killfile others have NO SELF CONTROL!
>>>
>>>John Kuthe...

>>
>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill

>
> files'.
>
>>--
>>JL
>>

>
>
> For certain people I would mean that literally.
>


That being the case i don't see how you can complain about any sort of
behavior by anybody.
--
JL

Joseph Littleshoes[_2_] 01-04-2010 09:23 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

>
>
> Nothing wrong with 'killfile'. It's accepted and common
> terminology.
>
> -sw



So are all sorts of things i disapprove of.


Female genital mutilation any one? how about enslaving young boys to
race camels? institutional racism? sexism? ageism? wage slavery? all are
"accepted and common" practices among those people where the practices
(and their vocabulary) are "common and accepted".
--
JL

Food Snob®[_2_] 01-04-2010 01:27 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Mar 31, 10:34*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Mar 31, 7:55*am, WTF > wrote:
>
> > Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
> > attacking people again.
> > What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean everyone here?

>
> > His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, *I
> > doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
> > changed his posting habits.

>
> People who killfile others have NO SELF CONTROL!


Like problem gamblers who put themselves on the exclusion list at the
casinos.

Extra thick Strip steak, cooked blue rare last night over a hickory
fire, and left out on the counter overnight with a cup of cafe au lait
is a nice way to wake up.
>
> John Kuthe...


--Bryan

Damaeus[_3_] 01-04-2010 02:00 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on Thu,
1 Apr 2010 01:51:01 -0500 the following:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:44:41 -0500, Damaeus wrote:
>
> > Agent used to be the most advanced newsreader you could get, really.

>
> Bzzzzt! Dialog had always been more advanced than Dialog, at least as
> far back as Agent 1.5. And best of all, Dialog was free.


Oooo! Oooo! Oooo! Thanks for mentioning that Dialog was free! That
reminds me. People in this country just luuuuuuv to rail against
socialism and communism, but look at how many people just love their god
damned freebies! My god, what a country with its hands in two asses. "We
don't want communism! We just want lots of free stuff!" HAHAHAHAHA!

> Dialog hasn't been modified that whole time, and I'd still use it over
> Agent no doubt about it. With it's own scripting language, there's
> pretty much nothing it can't do.
>
> Anyway, I've been in enough reader wars for a lifetime. I'm very happy
> with the fully customizable 40tude Dialog Reader.


I'm downloading it now. Last release appears to be 2005, and it's a beta
release. I was tickled by the fact that they only added the ability to
change the options for all selected newsgroups in the latest release:

Group options now work with multiple selected
groups if you tick the checkbox "Use these options
for all selected groups" (only enabled when all
selected items are of the same type, e.g. only
newsgroups or only folders)

Well, I've tried many newsreaders over the thirteen or so years I've used
Agent, and I've always come back to Agent as I found all the others
inferior. But I'm willing to try 40tude.

Damaeus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986

Damaeus[_3_] 01-04-2010 02:34 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on Thu,
1 Apr 2010 01:51:01 -0500 the following:

> Dialog hasn't been modified that whole time, and I'd still use it
> over Agent no doubt about it. With it's own scripting language,
> there's pretty much nothing it can't do.
>
> Anyway, I've been in enough reader wars for a lifetime. I'm very
> happy with the fully customizable 40tude Dialog Reader.


I downloaded it and took a look at it. I changed the colors around some.
I do like the multiple colors for quotation levels. It looks like one I
could probably get used to, but I'm happy enough with Agent to not care if
40tude even exists or not.

Damaeus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986

Damaeus[_3_] 01-04-2010 03:06 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, Joseph Littleshoes > posted on
Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:17:19 -0800 the following:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

> >
> > Some of us don't use it for any other purpose, JL... so we call them
> > kill files.

>
> That don't change what i think of using the term "kill" in such a context.


Yeah. You wouldn't want to put the prezzie in your kill file. You might
get a visit from the secret service.

Dameus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986

Doug Freyburger 01-04-2010 03:57 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
> I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.


I don't like that crock pot beans have the technical name of "baked
beans" either but I am not motivated to campaign to get the name
changed. "Kill file" is the technical name for the original filtering
mechanism used in the first few generations of newsreaders. To call
filters that is a matter of being literate in the history of newsreader
software. Pretty simple how that works.

What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks don't
like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions when it
is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so some folks
don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

I recall a scene from Hemmingway's "The Old Man and the Sea" where he
catches, slices and eats a dolphin fish. He comments that for a fish so
delicious when cooked it tastes terrible raw. I don't recall seeing
mahi mahi at suchi bars.

Nancy Young[_2_] 01-04-2010 04:02 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Doug Freyburger wrote:

> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
> don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions
> when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so
> some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.


A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
dolphin.

nancy

Food Snob®[_2_] 01-04-2010 04:04 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Apr 1, 9:06*am, Damaeus > wrote:
> In news:rec.food.cooking, Joseph Littleshoes > posted on
> Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:17:19 -0800 the following:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> > > > wrote:

>
> > > > I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

>
> > > Some of us don't use it for any other purpose, JL... so we call them
> > > kill files.

>
> > That don't change what i think of *using the term "kill" in such a context.

>
> Yeah. *You wouldn't want to put the prezzie in your kill file. *You might
> get a visit from the secret service.


He seems way too "Web 2.0" to be posting on Usenet anyway.

I have my

BE LIKE THE OBAMAS
PLANT A
VICTORY GARDEN

t-shirt on today.
>
> Dameus
>

--Bryan

Omelet[_7_] 01-04-2010 04:06 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Dave Smith > wrote:
> >
> >> atec7 7 > wrote:
> >> > WTF wrote:
> >> >> Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
> >> >> attacking people again. What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean
> >> >> everyone here?
> >> >>
> >> >> His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, I
> >> >> doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
> >> >> changed his posting habits.
> >> > The question isn't "if" to but "when" and how long ago
> >>
> >> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.

> >
> > Ditto.

>
> Yep! That cruel viciousness did it for me.
> --


I have to wonder if he even cares. :-(
I actually feel a bit sorry for the little fool.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"We're all adults here, except for those of us who aren't." --Blake Murphy

Steve Pope 01-04-2010 04:16 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
>> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
>> don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions
>> when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so
>> some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

>
> A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
> dolphin.
>
> nancy


Yeah, for me something like "dolphin burrito" grates as illiterate,
similar to "soy" for "soy sauce".

It should be "dolphin fish burrito", but people out of laziness
leave out the extra word.

Steve

Food Snob®[_2_] 01-04-2010 04:19 PM

Should Andy kill himself? (was: To Killfile Andy or not, that isthe question of the day)
 
On Apr 1, 10:13*am, Andy > wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> > Doug Freyburger wrote:

>
> >> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
> >> don't like? *The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions
> >> when it is used. *Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so
> >> some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

>
> > A dolphin is like a porpoise. *Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. *Not just
> > dolphin. *

>
> > nancy

>
> Yay nancy young!
>
> Wound you mind clearing the air and explain what makes you less boring
> than dirt?


Speaking of dirt, why don't you take a nap there?
>
> Andy


--Bryan

James Silverton[_4_] 01-04-2010 04:47 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Steve wrote on Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:16:44 +0000 (UTC):

>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>
>>> What other technical and/or historical names are there that
>>> folks don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger
>>> hysterical reactions when it is used. Somehow the word got
>>> overlapped with "porpoise" so some folks don't realize it
>>> means "mahi mahi" fish.

>>
>> A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish.
>> Not just dolphin.
>>
>> nancy


> Yeah, for me something like "dolphin burrito" grates as
> illiterate, similar to "soy" for "soy sauce".


> It should be "dolphin fish burrito", but people out of
> laziness leave out the extra word.


Really, does it matter in a cooking group? Who, apart from some perverse
Japanese, eats real dolphin? Things are made from soy beans but they
have distinctive names like miso, tofu and soy sauce and they are even
eaten alone but as edamame. If I were to say "1 tablespoon soy" (even if
I really would say "shoyu" or "soy sauce") would anyone be confused?

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Doug Freyburger 01-04-2010 04:52 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Nancy Young wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
>> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
>> don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions
>> when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so
>> some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

>
> A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
> dolphin.


Just to check - Use use these word pairs as well - salmon fish, sardine
fish, halibut fish. As with dolphin they are all types of fish. The
key is the hysteria from what is correct usage of the name for a type of
fish without considering that the word has two valid meanings. The only
reason anyone uses the word pair "dolphin fish" is because of that
hysteria not because using the word "dolphin" for the type of fish is
inaccurate.

That's why I used it in response to Joseph L's dislike of the correct
usage for "kill file".

Sqwertz 01-04-2010 04:53 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:34:42 -0500, Damaeus wrote:

> In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on Thu,
> 1 Apr 2010 01:51:01 -0500 the following:
>
>> Dialog hasn't been modified that whole time, and I'd still use it
>> over Agent no doubt about it. With it's own scripting language,
>> there's pretty much nothing it can't do.
>>
>> Anyway, I've been in enough reader wars for a lifetime. I'm very
>> happy with the fully customizable 40tude Dialog Reader.

>
> I downloaded it and took a look at it. I changed the colors around some.
> I do like the multiple colors for quotation levels. It looks like one I
> could probably get used to, but I'm happy enough with Agent to not care if
> 40tude even exists or not.


Kook.

-sw

Sqwertz 01-04-2010 04:54 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:23:03 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

>>
>> Nothing wrong with 'killfile'. It's accepted and common
>> terminology.
>>
>> -sw

>
> So are all sorts of things i disapprove of.
>
> Female genital mutilation any one? how about enslaving young boys to
> race camels? institutional racism? sexism? ageism? wage slavery? all are
> "accepted and common" practices among those people where the practices
> (and their vocabulary) are "common and accepted".


Uh, we're talking about words, not actions. Talk about a tangent...

You forgot to mention whales.

-sw

blake murphy[_2_] 01-04-2010 06:09 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:30:12 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:30:52 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.

>
> That pretty much put him right up there with Sheldon. But at least
> Sheldon *tries* to talk food. Any is just plain useless all around.
> the no-legs things is pretty distasteful.
>
> -sw


andy doesn't seem to realize it repels people. or thinks all those
repelled are faggots.

your pal,
legs

blake murphy[_2_] 01-04-2010 06:11 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:51:51 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> atec7 7 > wrote:
>>> WTF wrote:
>>>> Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
>>>> attacking people again. What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean
>>>> everyone here?
>>>>
>>>> His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, I
>>>> doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
>>>> changed his posting habits.
>>> The question isn't "if" to but "when" and how long ago

>>
>> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.

>
> Ditto.


he was an empty-headed buffoon long before he started that. i look at it
as low (inadvertent) comedy.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy[_2_] 01-04-2010 06:12 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:01:11 +0100, Ophelia wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> atec7 7 > wrote:
>>> > WTF wrote:
>>> >> Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
>>> >> attacking people again. What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean
>>> >> everyone here?
>>> >>
>>> >> His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, I
>>> >> doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
>>> >> changed his posting habits.
>>> > The question isn't "if" to but "when" and how long ago
>>>
>>> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.

>>
>> Ditto.

>
> Yep! That cruel viciousness did it for me.


he's vicious to a lot of other people, too.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy[_2_] 01-04-2010 06:28 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:51:01 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:44:41 -0500, Damaeus wrote:
>
>> In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on Wed,
>> 31 Mar 2010 20:06:14 -0500 the following:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:06:03 -0500, Damaeus wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's the only reason I'm interested in upgrading to Agent 6. they
>>>> finally included the option to hide quoted text.
>>>
>>> Dialog has been able to do this for a decade. Agent is so behind
>>> the times, and you have to pay and pay again to watch it grow.

>>
>> Agent used to be the most advanced newsreader you could get, really.

>
> Bzzzzt! Dialog had always been more advanced than Dialog, at least
> as far back as Agent 1.5. And best of all, Dialog was free.
>
> Dialog hasn't been modified that whole time, and I'd still use it
> over Agent no doubt about it. With it's own scripting language,
> there's pretty much nothing it can't do.
>
> Anyway, I've been in enough reader wars for a lifetime. I'm very
> happy with the fully customizable 40tude Dialog Reader.
>
> -sw


i like dialog, too. but i'm not sure i would go to the trouble of
filtering quoted portions of those killfiled, though.

i realize i am a huge offender when it comes to quoting people that many
have killfiled, and i apologize to my friends who find it upsetting. but
when these people hang big, red flashing neon signs reading 'kick me'
around their own necks - well, i can't help it. probably because i'm a
bitter old man in a wheelchair.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy[_2_] 01-04-2010 06:34 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:17:19 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

>>
>> Some of us don't use it for any other purpose, JL... so we call them
>> kill files.
>>

>
> That don't change what i think of using the term "kill" in such a context.


i've often lobbied for something in-between 'filter' and 'killfile':
'maimfile.'

your pal,
blake

Dave Smith[_1_] 01-04-2010 07:10 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
blake murphy wrote:

>
> i realize i am a huge offender when it comes to quoting people that many
> have killfiled, and i apologize to my friends who find it upsetting. but
> when these people hang big, red flashing neon signs reading 'kick me'
> around their own necks - well, i can't help it. probably because i'm a
> bitter old man in a wheelchair.


I am often left wondering why people bother responding to some of the
people in my filters. They are such obnoxious jerks that they just
aren't worth reading or responding to. I realized a long time ago that
they are just childish idiots screaming for attention, and they will
keep acting up s long as they get the attention they crave. It's pretty
pathetic of them, and I figure that if people just ignore them they will
eventually get bored and take their toys somewhere else to play.

I used to participate in another group where there were two
exceptionally pathetic attention seeking morons, possibly the same
person with slightly different styles, but still merely attention
seeking. Then there was a group of stalkers. It got to the point where
probably 90% of the posts were by those two and their stalkers.

It made things so much easier to simply filter messages from them and
about them. Along with that I filtered those who were only there to
stalk and harass them. We have one of those here. He just loves to be
the centre of attention. So I did the same with him. Anything with his
name or domain in the from or subject fields. Then there is the Idiots
filter... the obnoxious jerks, those who live to attack others and can't
discuss anything out attacking and insulting people. Life is too short
to bother with them.

I would be just as happy if others would filter them or simply stop
responding to them, and maybe they will just get bored and go away.



Damaeus[_3_] 01-04-2010 07:21 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on Thu,
1 Apr 2010 10:53:04 -0500 the following:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:34:42 -0500, Damaeus wrote:
>
> > In news:rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz > posted on
> > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:51:01 -0500 the following:
> >
> > > Dialog hasn't been modified that whole time, and I'd still use it
> > > over Agent no doubt about it. With it's own scripting language,
> > > there's pretty much nothing it can't do.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I've been in enough reader wars for a lifetime. I'm very
> > > happy with the fully customizable 40tude Dialog Reader.

> >
> > I downloaded it and took a look at it. I changed the colors around
> > some. I do like the multiple colors for quotation levels. It looks
> > like one I could probably get used to, but I'm happy enough with Agent
> > to not care if 40tude even exists or not.

>
> Kook.


Your criteria for one being a kook are questionable.

Damaeus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986

Sqwertz 01-04-2010 07:48 PM

To filter or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:38:12 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:23:03 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>
>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.
>>>>
>>>>Nothing wrong with 'killfile'. It's accepted and common
>>>>terminology.
>>>
>>>So are all sorts of things i disapprove of.
>>>
>>>Female genital mutilation any one? how about enslaving young boys to
>>>race camels? institutional racism? sexism? ageism? wage slavery? all are
>>>"accepted and common" practices among those people where the practices
>>>(and their vocabulary) are "common and accepted".

>>
>> Uh, we're talking about words, not actions. Talk about a tangent...
>>
>> You forgot to mention whales.

>
> We are what we think having become what we thought.
>
> The trivial use of the world "kill" is symptomatic of the
> desensitization of people to violence and brutality.


[big snipola]

I see April fools day is in full swing.

-sw

Lou decruss 01-04-2010 08:04 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:04:17 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>
>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>
>>>> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
>>>> don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical
>>>> reactions when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with
>>>> "porpoise" so some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.
>>>
>>> A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
>>> dolphin.

>
>> Yay nancy young!
>>
>> Wound you mind clearing the air and explain what makes you less boring
>> than dirt?

>
>Obviously I still have your attention.


And you're probably not in any killfiles.

Lou

Nancy Young[_2_] 01-04-2010 08:04 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Andy wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>
>>> What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
>>> don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical
>>> reactions when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with
>>> "porpoise" so some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

>>
>> A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
>> dolphin.


> Yay nancy young!
>
> Wound you mind clearing the air and explain what makes you less boring
> than dirt?


Obviously I still have your attention.

nancy

Sqwertz 01-04-2010 08:04 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:28:32 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

> i like dialog, too. but i'm not sure i would go to the trouble of
> filtering quoted portions of those killfiled, though.


I'm just so used to skipping over quoted text that I keep forgetting
Dialog has a simple "q" command which suppresses quoted text.

I would never feel inclined to write a script that would hide my
fragile eyes from portions of posts written by a user-definable
group of people.

-sw

Nancy Young[_2_] 01-04-2010 08:13 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:04:17 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> > wrote:


>> Obviously I still have your attention.

>
> And you're probably not in any killfiles.


I wouldn't have noticed him if someone hadn't quoted him.
Don't know why I bothered except it made me laugh,
Mr. Breakfast calling me boring. Whatever, I've been called
worse. Heh.

nancy

Joseph Littleshoes[_2_] 01-04-2010 08:23 PM

To filter Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
Andy wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>
>>Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What other technical and/or historical names are there that folks
>>>don't like? The word "dolphin" tends to trigger hysterical reactions
>>>when it is used. Somehow the word got overlapped with "porpoise" so
>>>some folks don't realize it means "mahi mahi" fish.

>>
>>A dolphin is like a porpoise. Mahi Mahi is dolphin fish. Not just
>>dolphin.
>>
>>nancy

>
>
>
> Yay nancy young!
>
> Wound you mind clearing the air and explain what makes you less boring
> than Andy?


Joseph Littleshoes[_2_] 01-04-2010 08:38 PM

To filter or not, that is the question of the day
 
Sqwertz wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:23:03 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.
>>>
>>>Nothing wrong with 'killfile'. It's accepted and common
>>>terminology.
>>>
>>>-sw

>>
>>So are all sorts of things i disapprove of.
>>
>>Female genital mutilation any one? how about enslaving young boys to
>>race camels? institutional racism? sexism? ageism? wage slavery? all are
>>"accepted and common" practices among those people where the practices
>>(and their vocabulary) are "common and accepted".

>
>
> Uh, we're talking about words, not actions. Talk about a tangent...
>
> You forgot to mention whales.
>
> -sw


We are what we think having become what we thought.

The trivial use of the world "kill" is symptomatic of the
desensitization of people to violence and brutality.

However, that's all just a personal irritation with the use of language,
not just here but in "real life" as well.

I have no desire to crusade here or elsewhere for a cadre of grammar
police armed with style manuals and enforcement mandates allowing, even
encouraging, the punishment of crude, offensive language.

I have learned to live with worse than the banal misuse of language.
--
JL

Joseph Littleshoes[_2_] 01-04-2010 08:45 PM

To filter or not, that is the question of the day
 
blake murphy wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:17:19 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
>>sf wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.
>>>
>>>Some of us don't use it for any other purpose, JL... so we call them
>>>kill files.
>>>

>>
>>That don't change what i think of using the term "kill" in such a context.

>
>
> i've often lobbied for something in-between 'filter' and 'killfile':
> 'maimfile.'
>
> your pal,
> blake


Terminate with extreme prejudice file?
--
JL

Dan Abel 01-04-2010 10:05 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In article >,
Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:

> sf wrote:


> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

> >
> >
> > Some of us don't use it for any other purpose, JL... so we call them
> > kill files.
> >

>
> That don't change what i think of using the term "kill" in such a context.


I'm assuming that this isn't an April Fool's joke, but I lost my sense
of humor so many decades ago that I can't tell.

This whole interchange about "killfiles" just kills me, but I was amused
enough to decide to kill a few minutes checking my dictionary. There is
the obvious primary definition of "kill" that is offensive when
referring to other posters here, but my dictionary goes on forever with
other uses:

? put an end to or cause the failure or defeat of (something) : the
committee voted to kill the project.
? stop (a computer program or process).
? informal switch off (a light or engine).
? informal delete (a line, paragraph, or file) from a document or
computer.
? (in soccer or other ball games) make (the ball) stop.
? (in tennis and similar games) hit (the ball) so forcefully that it
cannot be returned.
? neutralize or subdue (an effect or quality) : the sauce would kill the
taste of the herbs.
? informal consume the entire contents of (a bottle containing an
alcoholic drink).

2 informal overwhelm (someone) with an emotion : the suspense is killing
me.
? ( kill oneself) overexert oneself : I killed myself carrying those
things home.
? used hyperbolically to indicate that someone is extremely angry with
another person : my parents will kill me if they catch me out here.
? cause pain or anguish to : my feet are killing me.

3 pass (time, or a specified amount of it), typically while waiting for
a particular event : when he reached the station, he found he actually
had an hour to kill.
noun [usu. in sing. ]

[deleted]

? informal an act of destroying or disabling an enemy aircraft,
submarine, tank, etc.
? (in tennis and similar games) a very forceful shot that cannot be
returned.

PHRASES
be in at the kill be present at or benefit from the successful
conclusion of an enterprise.
go (or move in or close in) for the kill take decisive action, often
ruthlessly, to turn a situation to one's advantage.
if it kills one informal whatever the problems or difficulties involved
: we are going to smile and be pleasant if it kills us.
kill oneself laughing informal be overcome with laughter.
kill two birds with one stone proverb achieve two aims at once.
kill with (or by) kindness spoil with overindulgence.

kill 2

noun [in place names ] chiefly New York State
a stream, creek, or tributary : Kill Van Kull.
ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Dutch kil, from Middle Dutch kille
'riverbed, channel.'

[end dictionary quote]

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


pavane[_3_] 02-04-2010 01:29 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
| On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:01:11 +0100, Ophelia wrote:
|
| > "Omelet" > wrote in message
| > ...
| >> In article >,
| >> Dave Smith > wrote:
| >>
| >>> atec7 7 > wrote:
| >>> > WTF wrote:
| >>> >> Just a thought, Andy is getting more and more rude and has started
| >>> >> attacking people again. What do you think of Killfiling him, I mean
| >>> >> everyone here?
| >>> >>
| >>> >> His attitude has gotten to the point he's snapping at everyone, I
| >>> >> doubt he will ever change. He's like Jeckel and Hyde, even Brian has
| >>> >> changed his posting habits.
| >>> > The question isn't "if" to but "when" and how long ago
| >>>
| >>> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.
| >>
| >> Ditto.
| >
| > Yep! That cruel viciousness did it for me.
|
| he's vicious to a lot of other people, too.

But you are all forgetting this delightful gentleman:

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
|
| The deranged NO LEGS/NO IQ mick scumbag is LYING yet again... I've
| NEVER posted that I'm Jewish or of any other faith... in fact I've
| often posted that I'm an Atheist. An hour hasn't passed that the mick
| hasn't INTENTIONALLY posted a LIE! I'm glad you have no legs, now I'm
| hoping they hack off your arms, and that you go blind.

Has Andy ever been more vicious or ... rotten ... ?

pavane



Omelet[_7_] 02-04-2010 02:12 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:30:12 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:30:52 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> He made it into mine when he started the No Legs crap.

> >
> > That pretty much put him right up there with Sheldon. But at least
> > Sheldon *tries* to talk food. Any is just plain useless all around.
> > the no-legs things is pretty distasteful.
> >
> > -sw

>
> andy doesn't seem to realize it repels people. or thinks all those
> repelled are faggots.
>
> your pal,
> legs


Andy does not seem to realize a LOT of things.
Sad too. He used to be funny until he started up with that crap.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"We're all adults here, except for those of us who aren't." --Blake Murphy

Steve B[_11_] 02-04-2010 03:56 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
After years and years and years on Usenet, I finally saw a few months ago, a
statement about "plonking" people

That statement was that you simply "plonk" someone without a word spoken to
anyone. After that, you merely don't ever speak with them again. To
announce that you are "plonking" them (or killfiling) them is simply bad
form, and intended to bring about mental gyrations rather than just a
cessation of conversation.

The idiots who are "killfiled" will go on with their lives willy nilly, not
knowing or caring that they will not be read by JamesB, or LaveneG, since
most of their posting is babble anyway, and in no way designates coherent
conversation.

So, cut the crap, people. If you don't want to talk to someone, or they
have posted dribble, or have offended thou, just hit the BLOCK SENDER
button, and move on with your life. No need for steps inbetween to announce
it to the world in some adolescent way.

Steve



Terry Pulliam Burd[_4_] 02-04-2010 04:55 AM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:06:03 -0500, Damaeus
> wrote:

>That's the only reason I'm interested in upgrading to Agent 6. they
>finally included the option to hide quoted text. I think that might be
>why so many people abuse usenet with their ****ing overquotes. They (a)
>don't give a flying ****, and (b) their software hides all that extra
>quoted text, anyway. How rude. How inconsiderate. How asinine. How
>uncaring. They're probably the same types of people who keep turning left
>under a red light after their green and yellow lights have expired.
>Idiots.


I have Agent 6 and I don't see where I can hide quoted text. I went
into the help menu and can't see it. Would love to have it.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

Default User 02-04-2010 05:27 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On 31 Mar 2010 23:14:13 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>>Chemo the Clown wrote:


>>> I don't think you can filter google groups, can you?

>>
>>There are browser plugins.
>>

> Really? What do they have for firefox?


http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html




Brian



projectile vomit chick[_3_] 02-04-2010 05:42 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Apr 1, 9:56*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
> After years and years and years on Usenet, I finally saw a few months ago, a
> statement about "plonking" people
>
> That statement was that you simply "plonk" someone without a word spoken to
> anyone. *After that, you merely don't ever speak with them again. *To
> announce that you are "plonking" them (or killfiling) them is simply bad
> form, and intended to bring about mental gyrations rather than just a
> cessation of conversation.
>
> The idiots who are "killfiled" will go on with their lives willy nilly, not
> knowing or caring that they will not be read by JamesB, or LaveneG, since
> most of their posting is babble anyway, and in no way designates coherent
> conversation.
>
> So, cut the crap, people. *If you don't want to talk to someone, or they
> have posted dribble, or have offended thou, just hit the BLOCK SENDER
> button, and move on with your life. *No need for steps inbetween to announce
> it to the world in some adolescent way.


*standing and applauding*

HEAR, HEAR!

projectile vomit chick[_3_] 02-04-2010 07:24 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Apr 1, 10:54*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:23:03 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:

>
> >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:03:39 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

>
> >>>I think much the same of people who insist on calling filters 'kill files'.

>
> >> Nothing wrong with 'killfile'. *It's accepted and common
> >> terminology.

>
> >> -sw

>
> > So are all sorts of things i disapprove of.

>
> > Female genital mutilation any one? how about enslaving young boys to
> > race camels? institutional racism? sexism? ageism? wage slavery? all are
> > "accepted and common" practices among those people where the practices
> > (and their vocabulary) are "common and accepted".

>
> Uh, we're talking about words, not actions. *Talk about a tangent...
>
> You forgot to mention whales.


LOL! And don't forget the polar bears and baby seals!

brooklyn1 02-04-2010 09:43 PM

To Killfile Andy or not, that is the question of the day
 
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Apr 1, 9:56*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
>> After years and years and years on Usenet, I finally saw a few months ago, a
>> statement about "plonking" people
>>
>> That statement was that you simply "plonk" someone without a word spoken to
>> anyone. *After that, you merely don't ever speak with them again. *To
>> announce that you are "plonking" them (or killfiling) them is simply bad
>> form, and intended to bring about mental gyrations rather than just a
>> cessation of conversation.
>>
>> The idiots who are "killfiled" will go on with their lives willy nilly, not
>> knowing or caring that they will not be read by JamesB, or LaveneG, since
>> most of their posting is babble anyway, and in no way designates coherent
>> conversation.
>>
>> So, cut the crap, people. *If you don't want to talk to someone, or they
>> have posted dribble, or have offended thou, just hit the BLOCK SENDER
>> button, and move on with your life. *No need for steps inbetween to announce
>> it to the world in some adolescent way.

>
>*standing and applauding*
>
>HEAR, HEAR!


And it's far, FAR more juvenile to encourage others to filter who they
themselves haven't the cojones to go it alone and quietly. Those who
encourage others to filter someone are the back stabbers who deserve
being shunned by everyone because you're next on their hit list...
awww, the poor widdle baby's feelings got hurted by some baddie poster
so now the manipulator want's everybody should lick its stink'n
crotch... 'cause by following suit that's exactly what yoose be
allowing yourselves to be manipulated to do.


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