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Proactive or Reactive: Appliance Safety Switches
"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message > > My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or > were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted > 'finger foods'? > > I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... > > Jack Curiosity As appliances are designed today, all the safety considerations are put in place. That was not true years ago. I'm sure a few fingers were sacrificed to get to that point. Microwave ovens did always have a door interlock though. I don't recall my mother's old Bendix front loader having a door lock back in the early'50s. Designers thought people would have enough common sense not to open the door when water was sloshing around. |
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"Jack Schidt®" wrote:
> > As I pureed stuff in my FP, and took full note of all its functions, I > couldn't help but notice the safety features: you can't run the thing > unless the lid is in place. My front load washer is the same; once we hit > the green light, there's no opening the door. > > My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or > were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted 'finger > foods'? I wonder, was the food processor created by the french? I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while it's spinning. Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. nancy |
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"Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, said: > > I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a > > kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still > > spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while > > it's spinning. > > > > Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. > > I got my hair caught in a printing press once... I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left me scarred for life. nancy |
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"Tony P." > wrote in message .. . > In article >, says... >> "Gal Called J.J." wrote: >> I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped >> off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left >> me scarred for life. > > Ha! I can top that. I've seen the most grisly murder scene photos. You > haven't seen horrific until you've seen what one human being can do to > another. I picked up a photo off my cop brother's dining room table out of curiosity. After turning it over to see what it was it took me a few minutes to realize I was looking at a picture of a guy who'd blown his head off with a shot gun. I no longer pick up pictures at his house. I had thought that death scrapbooks were myths but found out they aren't. Gabby |
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"Tony P." wrote:
> > In article >, > > I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped > > off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left > > me scarred for life. > > Ha! I can top that. I've seen the most grisly murder scene photos. You > haven't seen horrific until you've seen what one human being can do to > another. I bet! I've seen some crime seen photos and it could really put you off your appetite. You just think, what the bleep was worth doing that to someone??? nancy |
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"Tony P." wrote:
> > In article >, > > I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped > > off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left > > me scarred for life. > > Ha! I can top that. I've seen the most grisly murder scene photos. You > haven't seen horrific until you've seen what one human being can do to > another. I bet! I've seen some crime seen photos and it could really put you off your appetite. You just think, what the bleep was worth doing that to someone??? nancy |
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"Tony P." > wrote in message .. . > In article >, says... >> "Gal Called J.J." wrote: >> I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped >> off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left >> me scarred for life. > > Ha! I can top that. I've seen the most grisly murder scene photos. You > haven't seen horrific until you've seen what one human being can do to > another. I picked up a photo off my cop brother's dining room table out of curiosity. After turning it over to see what it was it took me a few minutes to realize I was looking at a picture of a guy who'd blown his head off with a shot gun. I no longer pick up pictures at his house. I had thought that death scrapbooks were myths but found out they aren't. Gabby |
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"Tony P." wrote:
> > In article >, > > I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped > > off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left > > me scarred for life. > > Ha! I can top that. I've seen the most grisly murder scene photos. You > haven't seen horrific until you've seen what one human being can do to > another. I bet! I've seen some crime seen photos and it could really put you off your appetite. You just think, what the bleep was worth doing that to someone??? nancy |
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Sheesh, my server finally got this article today!
One time on Usenet, said: > "Gal Called J.J." wrote: > > > > One time on Usenet, said: > > > > I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a > > > kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still > > > spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while > > > it's spinning. > > > > > > Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. > > > > I got my hair caught in a printing press once... > > I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped > off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left > me scarred for life. Oh, uck! I was lucky, I had long hair and was able to yank most of it back out. I should have known better. Now they have plastic covers over that area of the press (usually). Probably because of idiots like me... ;-) -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF |
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Sheesh, my server finally got this article today!
One time on Usenet, said: > "Gal Called J.J." wrote: > > > > One time on Usenet, said: > > > > I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a > > > kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still > > > spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while > > > it's spinning. > > > > > > Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. > > > > I got my hair caught in a printing press once... > > I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped > off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left > me scarred for life. Oh, uck! I was lucky, I had long hair and was able to yank most of it back out. I should have known better. Now they have plastic covers over that area of the press (usually). Probably because of idiots like me... ;-) -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF |
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"Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, said: > > I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a > > kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still > > spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while > > it's spinning. > > > > Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. > > I got my hair caught in a printing press once... I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left me scarred for life. nancy |
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"Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, said: > > I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a > > kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still > > spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while > > it's spinning. > > > > Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. > > I got my hair caught in a printing press once... I never got over the teenager in the carwash who had her scalp ripped off by the brushes. I think that job (at the insurance company) left me scarred for life. nancy |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:37 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >.. I can still open my top loader while >it's spinning. > That was great fun for me to do when I was a little kid. I'd open the lid while the spin cycle was going full speed and put my hand on the center post and feel the spin. Or we'd try to put a sock on the post & see who sock could fly farthest. This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. Boron |
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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:37 -0400, Nancy Young > > wrote: > >>.. I can still open my top loader while >>it's spinning. >> > That was great fun for me to do when I was a little kid. I'd open the > lid while the spin cycle was going full speed and put my hand on the > center post and feel the spin. Or we'd try to put a sock on the post & > see who sock could fly farthest. > > This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. > > Boron > Yes, before the internet, but not before TV, eh? That's my story and I'm sticking with it. Jack Sputnik |
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Jack Schidt=AE wrote:
<snip> sock could fly farthest. >> >>This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. >> >>Boron >> >=20 >=20 > Yes, before the internet, but not before TV, eh? That's my story and I= 'm=20 > sticking with it. >=20 > Jack Sputnik=20 >=20 >=20 aw heck Jack, I remember being allowed to watch 1 hour of TV per day -=20 tops. The rest of the time was chores, homework, or "go find=20 something to do". Not to hijack the thread but I think that those "go=20 find something to do" times produced *some* of the best memories of my=20 childhood. Now, don't ask how many of the activities my parents=20 actually knew about. I started to tell them once and they stopped me.=20 :-D --=20 Steve Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. |
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"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message ... Jack Schidt® wrote: <snip> sock could fly farthest. >> >>This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. >> >>Boron >> > > > Yes, before the internet, but not before TV, eh? That's my story and I'm > sticking with it. > > Jack Sputnik > aw heck Jack, I remember being allowed to watch 1 hour of TV per day - tops. The rest of the time was chores, homework, or "go find something to do". Not to hijack the thread but I think that those "go find something to do" times produced *some* of the best memories of my childhood. Now, don't ask how many of the activities my parents actually knew about. I started to tell them once and they stopped me. :-D Haha! None of my friends or I were allowed much TV either. We'd go out and 'mess around' instead. I used to be quite the dam builder at an early age. Later on, of course, we'd get in trouble, but that's another story for another time. Jack Yout |
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"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message ... Jack Schidt® wrote: <snip> sock could fly farthest. >> >>This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. >> >>Boron >> > > > Yes, before the internet, but not before TV, eh? That's my story and I'm > sticking with it. > > Jack Sputnik > aw heck Jack, I remember being allowed to watch 1 hour of TV per day - tops. The rest of the time was chores, homework, or "go find something to do". Not to hijack the thread but I think that those "go find something to do" times produced *some* of the best memories of my childhood. Now, don't ask how many of the activities my parents actually knew about. I started to tell them once and they stopped me. :-D Haha! None of my friends or I were allowed much TV either. We'd go out and 'mess around' instead. I used to be quite the dam builder at an early age. Later on, of course, we'd get in trouble, but that's another story for another time. Jack Yout |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:44:37 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >.. I can still open my top loader while >it's spinning. > That was great fun for me to do when I was a little kid. I'd open the lid while the spin cycle was going full speed and put my hand on the center post and feel the spin. Or we'd try to put a sock on the post & see who sock could fly farthest. This is what we were reduced to by growing up before the Internet. Boron |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Jack Schidt® wrote: > > > My question is, were these safety features designed as a > > forethought, or were they an afterthought? Were we indeed > > treated to some unwanted 'finger foods'? > > > I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... > > As appliances are designed today, all the safety considerations > are put in place. That was not true years ago. I'm sure a few > fingers were sacrificed to get to that point. Engineers put in a lot of effort to make their inventions foolproof, but the problem is to make it through college, get a degree in the engineering department, make it through the first years in the field and get to invent stuff, that makes a well above average intelligence. Engineers don't make good fools in their attempts to foolproof products. So products are put out in the market and the general population supplies clever-er fools than the engineers are able to be. "You can make it fool proof but you can't make it damn fool proof" is a common saying in engineering. The borderline between fool and damn fool starts out with the engineers the fools and gradually head towards the damn fools being the ones who get nominated for Darwin Awards. > Microwave ovens did always have a door interlock though. I > don't recall my mother's old Bendix front loader having a door > lock back in the early'50s. Designers thought people would > have enough common sense not to open the door when water was > sloshing around. Sometimes an engineer CAN think of what's foolish that people will try. With a conventionally heated oven I will open it up while it is running, pull out the tray, baste the turkey, push in the tray, close the door and walk away. NOT a good idea with a microwave oven that would proceed to reflect its entire heating output towards the face of the person reaching in to pull out a turkey to baste it. Some things engineers CAN think of but still can't figure out how to handle it. Like putting an egg in its shell into the nuke and expecting to be able to take out a hard/soft boiled egg in a minute. The case of sticking a finger into a spinning blade is something engineers tend to not think of unless they have siblings who are carpenters, or until customers do it. Consider that cars were built for decaes before anyone started putting seatbelts into them, yet seatbelts were used in aircraft much earlier than that. |
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"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message om... > Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >> Jack Schidt® wrote: >> >> > My question is, were these safety features designed as a >> > forethought, or were they an afterthought? Were we indeed >> > treated to some unwanted 'finger foods'? >> >> > I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... >> >> As appliances are designed today, all the safety considerations >> are put in place. That was not true years ago. I'm sure a few >> fingers were sacrificed to get to that point. > > Engineers put in a lot of effort to make their inventions > foolproof, but the problem is to make it through college, get a > degree in the engineering department, make it through the first > years in the field and get to invent stuff, that makes a well > above average intelligence. Engineers don't make good fools > in their attempts to foolproof products. > AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message > > My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or > were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted > 'finger foods'? > > I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... > > Jack Curiosity As appliances are designed today, all the safety considerations are put in place. That was not true years ago. I'm sure a few fingers were sacrificed to get to that point. Microwave ovens did always have a door interlock though. I don't recall my mother's old Bendix front loader having a door lock back in the early'50s. Designers thought people would have enough common sense not to open the door when water was sloshing around. |
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> wrote in message ... > "Jack Schidt®" > wrote: >> As I pureed stuff in my FP, and took full note of all its functions, I >> couldn't help but notice the safety features: you can't run the thing >> unless the lid is in place. My front load washer is the same; once we >> hit >> the green light, there's no opening the door. > >> My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or >> were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted >> 'finger >> foods'? > >> I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... > > I don't recall ever seeing a FP that would operate with the lid off. > Be glad you can't open the door on your front load wash while it is in > use. Do I really need to explain why?  ================= Well... but...ummm... <raising hand hesitantly>... I did find a particular instance where it was a pain in the ... wallet because the front loader wouldn't open... I'd always had and/or used top loaders. With that in mind, anytime I was using powder detergent I always put it in first and then the clothes after an inch of water had flowed in. <shrug> I was out of town (Green Bay) and had to use a laundramat that happened to have some front loaders. Hey cool, I can watch my clothes spin instead of staring at walls. As you've already guessed, I put in the soap, closed the door and then commenced to grabbing clothes to put in... <!> I couldn't open the door!! So I watched an empty washer get cleaned. <sigh> Positive note? I got to wash my clothes in a clean washer. Negative? I was out a dollar that I really couldn't afford to lose at the time. I was in Green Bay for orientation for a new job. Cyndi Suds |
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"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message news:43Qad.5149$gd1.4935@trnddc08... > > > wrote in message > ... >> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote: >>> As I pureed stuff in my FP, and took full note of all its functions, I >>> couldn't help but notice the safety features: you can't run the thing >>> unless the lid is in place. My front load washer is the same; once we >>> hit >>> the green light, there's no opening the door. >> >>> My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or >>> were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted >>> 'finger >>> foods'? >> >>> I know how engineers are, so the question burns like an ember... >> >> I don't recall ever seeing a FP that would operate with the lid off. >> Be glad you can't open the door on your front load wash while it is in >> use. Do I really need to explain why? > ================= > > Well... but...ummm... <raising hand hesitantly>... I did find a particular > instance where it was a pain in the ... wallet because the front loader > wouldn't open... > > I'd always had and/or used top loaders. With that in mind, anytime I was > using powder detergent I always put it in first and then the clothes after > an inch of water had flowed in. <shrug> I was out of town (Green Bay) > and had to use a laundramat that happened to have some front loaders. Hey > cool, I can watch my clothes spin instead of staring at walls. As you've > already guessed, I put in the soap, closed the door and then commenced to > grabbing clothes to put in... <!> I couldn't open the door!! So I watched > an empty washer get cleaned. <sigh> Positive note? I got to wash my > clothes in a clean washer. Negative? I was out a dollar that I really > couldn't afford to lose at the time. I was in Green Bay for orientation > for a new job. > > Cyndi Suds > Well, the pain of the lost buck is long gone, but you have a funny tale to tell. Worth a buck, I'd say! Jack Guffaw |
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"Jack Schidt®" wrote:
> > As I pureed stuff in my FP, and took full note of all its functions, I > couldn't help but notice the safety features: you can't run the thing > unless the lid is in place. My front load washer is the same; once we hit > the green light, there's no opening the door. > > My question is, were these safety features designed as a forethought, or > were they an afterthought? Were we indeed treated to some unwanted 'finger > foods'? I wonder, was the food processor created by the french? I can stick my hand into my blender any time I wish. I read about a kid who had his arm torn off when he stuck his arm into a still spinning washing machine ... I can still open my top loader while it's spinning. Who knows. (smile) no answer at all, i know. nancy |
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