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On 25 Aug 2004 17:28:13 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: (Curly Sue) wrote in : > >>>It's fair if you're being fair, and actually, you're not. Fair is >>>supporting my side, asking people to be more explicit in their >>>postings when it comes to their constituency...which is all I did. >>>You would be on my case faster than a cat on fish if I dared to >>>post something applying only to Canadians without ever saying it >>>only applied to Canadians, or mentioning Canada even once. You >>>would call THAT rude, and you would be right to do that. >> >> You wish I would. However, I notice that you haven't even though >> there is a very nice example in this subject. > >Haven't what? Are we playing guessing games now? "post something applying only to Canadians without ever saying it only applied to Canadians, or mentioning Canada even once. " <glee> Oh, don't tell me it went right by you!</glee> Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On 25 Aug 2004 18:40:25 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: (Greg Zywicki) wrote in . com: > >> This is a nearly perfect thread. It is offtopic, calls attention >> to someone's behavior (mentioned by name) degraded into a flame >> war, involves amusing charges and counter charges of breaches of >> nettiquette, and has the gathering stormfront of pro/antiUSA >> sentiment. > >Oh, come on...it's fairly tedious as flaming goes...Curly sez "It's >all your fault cause you're a Canadian!" and I sez "No it ain't and >you're not being fair" and she sez "Sez you" and I sez "Up yours" and >so it goes...how exciting can this actually be to anyone? I'm >falling asleep from tedium just retelling it. It's not because you're Canadian and I've never said or implied anything of the sort. Since when does anyone pick on Canadians for being Canadian? Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On 25 Aug 2004 18:40:25 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: (Greg Zywicki) wrote in . com: > >> This is a nearly perfect thread. It is offtopic, calls attention >> to someone's behavior (mentioned by name) degraded into a flame >> war, involves amusing charges and counter charges of breaches of >> nettiquette, and has the gathering stormfront of pro/antiUSA >> sentiment. > >Oh, come on...it's fairly tedious as flaming goes...Curly sez "It's >all your fault cause you're a Canadian!" and I sez "No it ain't and >you're not being fair" and she sez "Sez you" and I sez "Up yours" and >so it goes...how exciting can this actually be to anyone? I'm >falling asleep from tedium just retelling it. It's not because you're Canadian and I've never said or implied anything of the sort. Since when does anyone pick on Canadians for being Canadian? Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On 25 Aug 2004 21:48:47 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: <snip> >"asking for it". So pointing out that you hold my "Canadianness" >responsible is not so totally outré after all. You just don't want >to admit that you're being natiocentric here...bwahaha.... > OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On 25 Aug 2004 21:48:47 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: <snip> >"asking for it". So pointing out that you hold my "Canadianness" >responsible is not so totally outré after all. You just don't want >to admit that you're being natiocentric here...bwahaha.... > OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> > OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other > subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior > version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a > jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far > south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. > The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in > the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' > with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good > explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for > the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? > > So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. That's not the only thing that is different south of the border. They changed the recipe for Grape Nuts here. I used to love them when I was a kid. I hadn't had them for a long time and picked up a box of them about 10 years ago and they were awful. A friend of mine used to make a trip across the border once in a while to stock up on some of the things he couldn't get at home or which were much cheaper there. One of the things he got there was Grape Nuts, which he bought by the case. He said they had changed the recipe here, but the US stuff was the original. I crossed the border to get some and, sure enough, they were much better. |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> > OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other > subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior > version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a > jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far > south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. > The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in > the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' > with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good > explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for > the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? > > So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. That's not the only thing that is different south of the border. They changed the recipe for Grape Nuts here. I used to love them when I was a kid. I hadn't had them for a long time and picked up a box of them about 10 years ago and they were awful. A friend of mine used to make a trip across the border once in a while to stock up on some of the things he couldn't get at home or which were much cheaper there. One of the things he got there was Grape Nuts, which he bought by the case. He said they had changed the recipe here, but the US stuff was the original. I crossed the border to get some and, sure enough, they were much better. |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:35 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >Curly Sue wrote: > >> >> OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other >> subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior >> version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a >> jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far >> south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. >> The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in >> the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' >> with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good >> explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for >> the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? Is it the quantity of eggs in the recipe? Curious. >> So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. > >That's not the only thing that is different south of the border. They >changed the recipe for Grape Nuts here. I used to love them when I was a >kid. I hadn't had them for a long time and picked up a box of them about >10 years ago and they were awful. A friend of mine used to make a trip >across the border once in a while to stock up on some of the things he >couldn't get at home or which were much cheaper there. One of the things >he got there was Grape Nuts, which he bought by the case. He said they >had changed the recipe here, but the US stuff was the original. I crossed >the border to get some and, sure enough, they were much better. Again, I'd like to konw what the differences were. I've only tasted one version, the Canuck one, and that not recently. The food companies customize brands to suit regional tastes. An example that I have personal acquaintance with is Cadbury's chocolate. It has a higher cocoa content in the UK (to the point that UK manufactured bars are sold here with a Union Jack sticker on them as a separate sub-brand), compared to the Canadian stuff, and the American stuff tends to have a higher wax and sugar content (and hence, stays harder and shinier as the temps go up). A recent article in the Economist on Nestle stated that their Nescafe brand is heavily adapted to local taste in all their different national markets. Shirley Hicks Toronto, Ontario "A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment." - Garrison Keillor |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:35 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >Curly Sue wrote: > >> >> OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other >> subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior >> version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a >> jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far >> south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. >> The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in >> the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' >> with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good >> explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for >> the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? Is it the quantity of eggs in the recipe? Curious. >> So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. > >That's not the only thing that is different south of the border. They >changed the recipe for Grape Nuts here. I used to love them when I was a >kid. I hadn't had them for a long time and picked up a box of them about >10 years ago and they were awful. A friend of mine used to make a trip >across the border once in a while to stock up on some of the things he >couldn't get at home or which were much cheaper there. One of the things >he got there was Grape Nuts, which he bought by the case. He said they >had changed the recipe here, but the US stuff was the original. I crossed >the border to get some and, sure enough, they were much better. Again, I'd like to konw what the differences were. I've only tasted one version, the Canuck one, and that not recently. The food companies customize brands to suit regional tastes. An example that I have personal acquaintance with is Cadbury's chocolate. It has a higher cocoa content in the UK (to the point that UK manufactured bars are sold here with a Union Jack sticker on them as a separate sub-brand), compared to the Canadian stuff, and the American stuff tends to have a higher wax and sugar content (and hence, stays harder and shinier as the temps go up). A recent article in the Economist on Nestle stated that their Nescafe brand is heavily adapted to local taste in all their different national markets. Shirley Hicks Toronto, Ontario "A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment." - Garrison Keillor |
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Michel Boucher's post is disgusting, inhumane, coldhearted and
meanspirited. I am 33 years old, and my wife succumbed to breast cancer three years ago at the age of 29! Our only child, a beautiful daughter, is now motherless! How could any woman (or any man) be so insensitive??? God forgive her. -Brandon- |
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Michel Boucher's post is disgusting, inhumane, coldhearted and
meanspirited. I am 33 years old, and my wife succumbed to breast cancer three years ago at the age of 29! Our only child, a beautiful daughter, is now motherless! How could any woman (or any man) be so insensitive??? God forgive her. -Brandon- |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 03:21:13 -0400, Shirley Hicks
> wrote: >On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:58:35 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>Curly Sue wrote: >> >>> >>> OK, well I didn't know whether to mention this here or in your other >>> subject (about "Batching it") but you Canadians do get an inferior >>> version of Hellman's. I found out a year or so ago when I picked up a >>> jar of "vrai" Hellman's made in Canada (not sure how it got so far >>> south...) and it was gross. I reported here on the issue back then. >>> The ingredient list was different from the real vrai version made in >>> the good ol' US of A. I was upset thinking that they were messin' >>> with my mayo and called the company. No one can give a good >>> explanation of why it's different. The only thing I can figure for >>> the change in recipe is perhaps eggs are more expensive in Canada? > >Is it the quantity of eggs in the recipe? Curious. I assume so because of the order of ingredients. I can't remember now exactly what the differences were, but it was something about eggs and perhaps the type of oil. >>> So we agree on something: Canadian Hellman's is bad. >> >>That's not the only thing that is different south of the border. They >>changed the recipe for Grape Nuts here. I used to love them when I was a >>kid. I hadn't had them for a long time and picked up a box of them about >>10 years ago and they were awful. A friend of mine used to make a trip >>across the border once in a while to stock up on some of the things he >>couldn't get at home or which were much cheaper there. One of the things >>he got there was Grape Nuts, which he bought by the case. He said they >>had changed the recipe here, but the US stuff was the original. I crossed >>the border to get some and, sure enough, they were much better. > >Again, I'd like to konw what the differences were. I've only tasted >one version, the Canuck one, and that not recently. > >The food companies customize brands to suit regional tastes. Yes, that's not surprizing. But I can't fathom why the difference in Hellman's. I find it hard to believe it's Canadian tastes (in this case anyway), which is why I'm leaning toward price or availability of ingredients . Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On 28 Aug 2004 00:26:54 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: (Curly Sue) wrote in : > >> Yes, that's not surprizing. But I can't fathom why the difference >> in Hellman's. I find it hard to believe it's Canadian tastes (in >> this case anyway), which is why I'm leaning toward price or >> availability of ingredients . > >Well, we can't believe you like to drink stuff that tastes like **** >(Coke, beer), but obviously you do :-) I think that's old, Michael. The stuff that passes for American beer is dumped here in revenge for all the Molson's that we've been shipping south. ![]() There is some pretty amazing microbrew available on that side of the border. Samual Adams, Chicago's Goose Island microbrews, to name two that I've sampled personally.. Shirley Hicks Toronto, Ontario "A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment." - Garrison Keillor |
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Shirley Hicks > wrote in
: >>Well, we can't believe you like to drink stuff that tastes like >>**** (Coke, beer), but obviously you do :-) > > I think that's old, Michael. Who's this guy Michael you're talking to? It's my comment you're referring to. > The stuff that passes for American beer > is dumped here in revenge for all the Molson's that we've been > shipping south. ![]() I'm not talking about NAFTA revenge (that's fairly new even though you still can't get Maudite or Fin du Monde in parts of Canada), I mean the stuff they drink THERE, in the US. > There is some pretty amazing microbrew available on that side of > the border. Samual Adams, Chicago's Goose Island microbrews, to > name two that I've sampled personally.. Brew Moon in Cambridge...fabulous stout. I'm aware that there are exceptions, but you know what they say about exceptions, they confirm the rule. :-) -- German to Picasso in front of Guernica: Did you do this? Picasso to German in front of Guernica: No, it was you. |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:06:51 -0400, Shirley Hicks
> wrote: >On 28 Aug 2004 00:26:54 GMT, Michel Boucher > >wrote: > (Curly Sue) wrote in : >> >>> Yes, that's not surprizing. But I can't fathom why the difference >>> in Hellman's. I find it hard to believe it's Canadian tastes (in >>> this case anyway), which is why I'm leaning toward price or >>> availability of ingredients . >> >>Well, we can't believe you like to drink stuff that tastes like **** >>(Coke, beer), but obviously you do :-) > >I think that's old, Michael. The stuff that passes for American beer >is dumped here in revenge for all the Molson's that we've been >shipping south. ![]() > >There is some pretty amazing microbrew available on that side of the >border. Samual Adams, Chicago's Goose Island microbrews, to name two >that I've sampled personally.. > >Shirley Hicks >Toronto, Ontario i like rolling rock, but i know many disdain it. your pal, blake |
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