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Darryl L. Pierce 05-01-2004 06:42 PM

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wrote:

> You can do your own searches. I don't do any work for others.


You make a reference, you need to support it.

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Darryl L. Pierce 10-01-2004 04:56 PM

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wrote:

> Chiropractors have far more study hours in nutrition and the diseases
> that arise from the improper use of common utensils than the allopathic
> person.


That still does not make them experts or authorities in the field of
nutrition.

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Dee Randall 17-01-2004 02:32 PM

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A lot of graduates in the field of nutrition work in the hospitals, don't
they?
Taking into consideration the state of affairs of the nutritional quality of
hospital food, shouldn't one connect the dots?
Dee

"Darryl L. Pierce" > wrote in message
s.com...
> wrote:
>
> > Chiropractors have far more study hours in nutrition and the diseases
> > that arise from the improper use of common utensils than the allopathic
> > person.

>
> That still does not make them experts or authorities in the field of
> nutrition.
>
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> Darryl L. Pierce >
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Vox Humana 18-01-2004 03:46 AM

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"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
...
> A lot of graduates in the field of nutrition work in the hospitals, don't
> they?
> Taking into consideration the state of affairs of the nutritional quality

of
> hospital food, shouldn't one connect the dots?
> Dee


You assume that hospitals run their own food services, but the fact is, most
don't. Companies like ARA (http://www.aramark.com/) run the food services
(and sometimes the ER) in many hospitals along with the food services and
medical operations in county jails and state prisons and mental
institutions. These operations go to the lowest bidder and ARA supplies
everything from the food to the employees for a set fee for the length of
the contract. I worked for one of their institutional medical services and
believe me, what counts is the almighty dollar. That said, I'm not sure that
the food in hospitals is uniformly unhealthy as much as it is unpalatable.
Besides, the graduates that I know who are professionals in the field of
nutrition have a very good understanding of the subject matter. They know
far more than MDs or chiropractors when it comes to nutrition.



Nina 18-01-2004 04:22 AM

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"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote in message
> ...
> > A lot of graduates in the field of nutrition work in the hospitals,

don't
> > they?
> > Taking into consideration the state of affairs of the nutritional

quality
> of
> > hospital food, shouldn't one connect the dots?
> > Dee

>
> You assume that hospitals run their own food services, but the fact is,

most
> don't. Companies like ARA (http://www.aramark.com/) run the food

services
> (and sometimes the ER) in many hospitals along with the food services and
> medical operations in county jails and state prisons and mental
> institutions. These operations go to the lowest bidder and ARA supplies
> everything from the food to the employees for a set fee for the length of
> the contract. I worked for one of their institutional medical services

and
> believe me, what counts is the almighty dollar. That said, I'm not sure

that
> the food in hospitals is uniformly unhealthy as much as it is unpalatable.
> Besides, the graduates that I know who are professionals in the field of
> nutrition have a very good understanding of the subject matter. They know
> far more than MDs or chiropractors when it comes to nutrition.
>

As someone who studied to be a dietician, and who has friends who are
doctors, I would agree. (not that Im an expert on nutrition ,btw)
Most MDs dont know that much about nutrition, not beyond the basics.
Dieticians have to know nutrition, food safety, how to cook, etc.



Darryl L. Pierce 20-01-2004 04:40 PM

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"Dee Randall" <deedoveyatshenteldotnet> wrote:

> A lot of graduates in the field of nutrition work in the hospitals, don't
> they?
> Taking into consideration the state of affairs of the nutritional quality
> of hospital food, shouldn't one connect the dots?


Hehe. Well, except that the nutritionists aren't working in food prep, and
it's fallacious thinking to assume that not tastey == unhealthy. The food
in hospitals isn't made to be delicious, but to instead provide the
nutrition need in as palatable a form as possible, considering costs, etc.
Hospitals aren't trying to compete with restaurants on food quality, they
are simply providing the food patients and the yum-factor (as my kids call
it) is of little to no concern.

At least they're not serving raw protein, etc.

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Julia Altshuler 20-01-2004 05:27 PM

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One of the points to remember about hospital food is that it is always
leftover. Meals are made the day before, reheated, put on a trolly and
delivered to the patients so that they arrive lukewarm several minutes
later. I'm trying to think of ANY meal that would be delicious after
that treatment. I like to believe I do wonders with leftovers, but even
so, the leftover meal arrives at the table piping hot. What's good
reheated and lukewarm?

--Lia


Darryl L. Pierce 20-01-2004 05:43 PM

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Julia Altshuler wrote:

> One of the points to remember about hospital food is that it is always
> leftover. Meals are made the day before, reheated, put on a trolly and
> delivered to the patients so that they arrive lukewarm several minutes
> later. I'm trying to think of ANY meal that would be delicious after
> that treatment. I like to believe I do wonders with leftovers, but even
> so, the leftover meal arrives at the table piping hot. What's good
> reheated and lukewarm?


Well, not served lukewarm, but I find the following to be delicious the day
*after* being made:

o pot roasts
o any kind of stew
o soups

Pretty much anything that exchanges flavors by resting and marinading.

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Julia Altshuler 20-01-2004 06:21 PM

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Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

> Well, not served lukewarm, but I find the following to be delicious the day
> *after* being made:
>
> o pot roasts
> o any kind of stew
> o soups
>
> Pretty much anything that exchanges flavors by resting and marinading.



Agreed. But not served lukewarm.

This thread shifted into hospital food. I posted, then realized that my
information about food preparation in hospitals goes back to the days
when patients had extended stays in hospitals. Now many procedures that
previously would have required several days in the hospital are now done
on an out-patient basis or a mere overnight. If the food is terrible,
and I'm only there for a few meals, I might skip eating altogether. I
don't have an apetite anyway when I'm feeling miserable so the food
would have to be pretty good to entice me to eat it.

--Lia


Darryl L. Pierce 20-01-2004 08:11 PM

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Julia Altshuler wrote:

>> Well, not served lukewarm, but I find the following to be delicious the
>> day *after* being made:
>>
>> o pot roasts
>> o any kind of stew
>> o soups
>>
>> Pretty much anything that exchanges flavors by resting and marinading.

>
> Agreed. But not served lukewarm.


Definitely. I can think of nothing beyond a dip that I'd like lukewarm.

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Gabby 20-01-2004 09:51 PM

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"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:rydPb.107452$xy6.263858@attbi_s02...
>
> One of the points to remember about hospital food is that it is always
> leftover. Meals are made the day before, reheated, put on a trolly and
> delivered to the patients so that they arrive lukewarm several minutes
> later.


That's in a great hospital. I just spent 6 weeks of mealtimes in the
hospital with my dad. Meals are cooked in another province, frozen and then
trucked to the facility where they are thawed and reheated. His biggest
complaint was that everything tasted the same: bland & dry. He only ate
with gusto when I brought in salt beef, salt cod, seafood casserole & fried
clams.

Gabby




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