Hello, I have a question on blenders.

I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
use more than 5 minutes without a break, the second one, a Breville
Classic, the plastic coupling under the blade broke, and the third a
Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
pure.
So I'm looking for quality blender for my kitchen and expect it to be
very reliable and have it for many years (kind of like pass it down to
my grandchildren when I'm too old to cook). Having done some shopping
around it seems there is a big price leap between domestic and
commercial blenders. There is about a 3:1 price ratio between the
'better' domestic brands and a basic commercial bar blender. Is it
better in the long run to spend the extra cash and go for a commercial
unit ?
Here is a link to the blender I'm considering
http://www.semak.com.au/blender.html

Also, which is a better jar material to use, the stainless or
polycarbonate ?

>(Adam Seychell) pleads:
>
>Hello, I have a question on blenders.
>
>I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
>use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
>use more than 5 minutes without a break, the second one, a Breville
>Classic, the plastic coupling under the blade broke, and the third a
>Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
>accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
>pure.
>So I'm looking for quality blender for my kitchen and expect it to be
>very reliable and have it for many years (kind of like pass it down to
>my grandchildren when I'm too old to cook). Having done some shopping
>around it seems there is a big price leap between domestic and
>commercial blenders. There is about a 3:1 price ratio between the
>'better' domestic brands and a basic commercial bar blender. Is it
>better in the long run to spend the extra cash and go for a commercial
>unit ?
>Here is a link to the blender I'm considering
>http://www.semak.com.au/blender.html
>
>Also, which is a better jar material to use, the stainless or
>polycarbonate ?

Just from this brief meeting with you I've absolutely determined that you
should be banned from coming anywhere within 100 ft of a blender, in fact you
should not be permitted in kitchens either... except perhaps to prepare an
occasional bowl of cold breakfast cereal, while under strict supervision of
course. Btw, you don't drive an automobile do you... geeze, I'd hate to think
this pinhead is a commercial pilot.

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:58:22 -0700, Adam Seychell wrote:

> Hello, I have a question on blenders.
>
> I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
> use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
> use more than 5 minutes without a break, the second one, a Breville
> Classic, the plastic coupling under the blade broke, and the third a
> Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
> accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
> pure.

the way you use them, it might be cheaper just to keep buying blenders on
sale ($9.99-19.99) and destroy them as you will. keep a spare.

Adam Seychell wrote:
>
> Hello, I have a question on blenders.
>
> I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
> use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
> use more than 5 minutes without a break,


That's probably because most people don't use blenders in that way.
Stopping it for a minute in between short runs doesn't take time out of
your day and prolongs the life of even the cheapest one.


the second one, a Breville
> Classic, the plastic coupling under the blade broke,

Breville makes good sandwich toasters not blenders.


and the third a
> Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
> accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
> pure.


No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
mistreatment more than once anyway.


> So I'm looking for quality blender for my kitchen and expect it to be
> very reliable and have it for many years (kind of like pass it down to
> my grandchildren when I'm too old to cook).


Not the way you use them.
Stick to the cheap ones.

Our lab blenders were always normal Waring models and were used day
after day for many years without breaking.
Our home blender is from Oster and is about 20 years old; I remember it
from my school days. Used a few times every week. Same motor, same glass
container. Only the blade and the rubber gasket have been replaced.

Having done some shopping
> around it seems there is a big price leap between domestic and
> commercial blenders. There is about a 3:1 price ratio between the
> 'better' domestic brands and a basic commercial bar blender. Is it
> better in the long run to spend the extra cash and go for a commercial
> unit ?
> Here is a link to the blender I'm considering
> http://www.semak.com.au/blender.html
>
> Also, which is a better jar material to use, the stainless or
> polycarbonate ?


A full-size mixer might do you more good then a blender. Sounds as
though you are using the blender for jobs a mixer would do better.

Arri London wrote:
>
> Adam Seychell wrote:
>
>>Hello, I have a question on blenders.
>>
>>I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
>>use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
>>use more than 5 minutes without a break,
>
>
>
> That's probably because most people don't use blenders in that way.
> Stopping it for a minute in between short runs doesn't take time out of
> your day and prolongs the life of even the cheapest one.


I disagree, the really cheap blenders are designed for intermittent use
only, so the manufactures use absolute minimum sized motor for the
specified power level. i.e a very power lossy motor with thin wires that
heat up fast. This is ok provided it doesn't get run more than 60
seconds and given time to cool down. More expensive, heavier motors
(with equal number of watts) will run without heating up as fast ,so
that can be used at much higher duty cycle, or maybe even continuously.

>>Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
>>accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
>>pure.
>
> No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
> mistreatment more than once anyway.

Yea, I know it was a mistake, but it only just barely touched the blade
and it only took a small chip out of the wooden spoon. I would think a
cup of ice cubes will put lot more stress of the components. I never put
ice cubes in the Kuprs anyway. I think buying a combo
blender/mixermaster was the mistake I made. A machine built for one
purpose always performs better than "two in one" types.

>
> Not the way you use them.
> Stick to the cheap ones.


> Our lab blenders were always normal Waring models and were used day
> after day for many years without breaking.
> Our home blender is from Oster and is about 20 years old; I remember it
> from my school days. Used a few times every week. Same motor, same glass
> container. Only the blade and the rubber gasket have been replaced.

Thanks for the reference to Oster, but never seen that brand in my
country, Australia. Hamilton Beach Blenders are up their with the cheap
end of commercial units (AU$450). The brevilles are common but having
seen my Brevvile Classic die just from crushing ice and your comment on
Breville not making good blenders then I'm doubtful of getting another.
Do Sunbeam make a good domestic blender ? The Sunbean Legend (their
best) sells for AU$170 and comes with 5 year warranty on the motor.

> A full-size mixer might do you more good then a blender. Sounds as
> though you are using the blender for jobs a mixer would do better.

I'm mainly a blender for making dips, puree raw vegetables, soups, and
drinks. I though that if a blender can crush ice then it will not have
trouble with any eatable foods. What do you mean by a "mixer" ?

Arri London wrote:
>
> Adam Seychell wrote:
>
>>Hello, I have a question on blenders.
>>
>>I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
>>use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
>>use more than 5 minutes without a break,
>
>
>
> That's probably because most people don't use blenders in that way.
> Stopping it for a minute in between short runs doesn't take time out of
> your day and prolongs the life of even the cheapest one.


I disagree, the really cheap blenders are designed for intermittent use
only, so the manufactures use absolute minimum sized motor for the
specified power level. i.e a very power lossy motor with thin wires that
heat up fast. This is ok provided it doesn't get run more than 60
seconds and given time to cool down. More expensive, heavier motors
(with equal number of watts) will run without heating up as fast ,so
that can be used at much higher duty cycle, or maybe even continuously.

>>Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
>>accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
>>pure.
>
> No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
> mistreatment more than once anyway.

Yea, I know it was a mistake, but it only just barely touched the blade
and it only took a small chip out of the wooden spoon. I would think a
cup of ice cubes will put lot more stress of the components. I never put
ice cubes in the Kuprs anyway. I think buying a combo
blender/mixermaster was the mistake I made. A machine built for one
purpose always performs better than "two in one" types.

>
> Not the way you use them.
> Stick to the cheap ones.


> Our lab blenders were always normal Waring models and were used day
> after day for many years without breaking.
> Our home blender is from Oster and is about 20 years old; I remember it
> from my school days. Used a few times every week. Same motor, same glass
> container. Only the blade and the rubber gasket have been replaced.

Thanks for the reference to Oster, but never seen that brand in my
country, Australia. Hamilton Beach Blenders are up their with the cheap
end of commercial units (AU$450). The brevilles are common but having
seen my Brevvile Classic die just from crushing ice and your comment on
Breville not making good blenders then I'm doubtful of getting another.
Do Sunbeam make a good domestic blender ? The Sunbean Legend (their
best) sells for AU$170 and comes with 5 year warranty on the motor.

> A full-size mixer might do you more good then a blender. Sounds as
> though you are using the blender for jobs a mixer would do better.

I'm mainly a blender for making dips, puree raw vegetables, soups, and
drinks. I though that if a blender can crush ice then it will not have
trouble with any eatable foods. What do you mean by a "mixer" ?

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:46:08 +1000, "Adam. S" >
wrote:

> What do you mean by a "mixer" ?

Howdy,

PMJI, but this is the sort of machine that is typically called a
"mixer" in the US:

http://www.dvorsons.com/Mixers.htm

HTH,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:46:08 +1000, "Adam. S" >
wrote:

> What do you mean by a "mixer" ?

Howdy,

PMJI, but this is the sort of machine that is typically called a
"mixer" in the US:

http://www.dvorsons.com/Mixers.htm

HTH,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Arri London wrote:

> > Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
> > accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
> > pure.
>
> No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
> mistreatment more than once anyway.

That accident could have been much worse with a blender
that didn't strip its gears. The gears are like a mechanical fuse.
Get another one of those and you'll be fine.

Arri London wrote:

> > Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
> > accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
> > pure.
>
> No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
> mistreatment more than once anyway.

That accident could have been much worse with a blender
that didn't strip its gears. The gears are like a mechanical fuse.
Get another one of those and you'll be fine.

"Adam. S" wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
> > Adam Seychell wrote:
> >
> >>Hello, I have a question on blenders.
> >>
> >>I've destroyed 3 chepo blenders of the years during what I call normal
> >>use. The first one the motor burned out because it didn't like being
> >>use more than 5 minutes without a break,
> >
> >
> >
> > That's probably because most people don't use blenders in that way.
> > Stopping it for a minute in between short runs doesn't take time out of
> > your day and prolongs the life of even the cheapest one.
>
> I disagree, the really cheap blenders are designed for intermittent use
> only, so the manufactures use absolute minimum sized motor for the
> specified power level. i.e a very power lossy motor with thin wires that
> heat up fast. This is ok provided it doesn't get run more than 60
> seconds and given time to cool down. More expensive, heavier motors
> (with equal number of watts) will run without heating up as fast ,so
> that can be used at much higher duty cycle, or maybe even continuously.

I've had enough cheap ones when at university or cooking at other homes
etc. None of them had the motor fail under 'normal' use.

>
> >>Kurps processor/blender combo, the gears inside stripped after I
> >>accidentally pushed the wooden spoon in too far when making tomato
> >>pure.
> >
> > No blender no matter how excellent is going to survive that kind of
> > mistreatment more than once anyway.
>
> Yea, I know it was a mistake, but it only just barely touched the blade
> and it only took a small chip out of the wooden spoon. I would think a
> cup of ice cubes will put lot more stress of the components. I never put
> ice cubes in the Kuprs anyway. I think buying a combo
> blender/mixermaster was the mistake I made. A machine built for one
> purpose always performs better than "two in one" types.

Krups is normally a good brand. Perhaps the wooden spoon was the last
straw of rough handling.

>
> >
> > Not the way you use them.
> > Stick to the cheap ones.
>
> > Our lab blenders were always normal Waring models and were used day
> > after day for many years without breaking.
> > Our home blender is from Oster and is about 20 years old; I remember it
> > from my school days. Used a few times every week. Same motor, same glass
> > container. Only the blade and the rubber gasket have been replaced.
>
> Thanks for the reference to Oster, but never seen that brand in my
> country, Australia. Hamilton Beach Blenders are up their with the cheap
> end of commercial units (AU$450). The brevilles are common but having
> seen my Brevvile Classic die just from crushing ice and your comment on
> Breville not making good blenders then I'm doubtful of getting another.


Not every blender is suitable for crushing ice. You'd need to check on
that before you buy.

> Do Sunbeam make a good domestic blender ? The Sunbean Legend (their
> best) sells for AU$170 and comes with 5 year warranty on the motor.

Don't know. Never heard of the brand in the UK.

>
> > A full-size mixer might do you more good then a blender. Sounds as
> > though you are using the blender for jobs a mixer would do better.
>
> I'm mainly a blender for making dips, puree raw vegetables, soups, and
> drinks. I though that if a blender can crush ice then it will not have
> trouble with any eatable foods. What do you mean by a "mixer" ?


Not every blender can really crush ice without strain. Blenders are best
at handling liquids and soft solids (cooked veg, soft fruit).

A proper stand mixer: The Kenwood at top.

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosBrowseCounts?storeId=10001&C$cip=12417&Trail= C%24cip%3D12363%3EC%24cip%3D12409%3EC%24cip%3D1241 7&categoryId=12417&langId=-1&catalogId=1751

A food processor might be a good addition to your kitchen rather than a
mixer.