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Kajikit 28-11-2003 10:26 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?

(huggles)

~Karen AKA Kajikit

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Righar 28-11-2003 12:14 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
Kajikit wrote:
> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur?


IMO it must depend on the kind of eggs you're using, I used
to believe that the bigger the egg, the more you tend to get
the green ring thing. ..?


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Compmouse 28-11-2003 01:29 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
I think you're boiling your eggs for too long, that's what causes the green
ring around the yolk. Try boiling them for less time.

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"Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
> salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
> sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
> smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
> eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?
>
> (huggles)
>
> ~Karen AKA Kajikit
>
> Nobody outstubborns a cat...
>
> Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
> Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating
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LIMEYNO1 28-11-2003 01:53 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
The simple cause is BOILING! Don't boil hard cooked eggs. Put eggs in cold
water, bring to a boil, cover, turn off heat and let stand for 15- 20
minutes. You will never have the dark ring.

"Compmouse" > wrote in message
...
> I think you're boiling your eggs for too long, that's what causes the

green
> ring around the yolk. Try boiling them for less time.
>
> -- Compmouse
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Kajikit" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
> > around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
> > salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
> > sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
> > smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
> > eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?
> >
> > (huggles)
> >
> > ~Karen AKA Kajikit
> >
> > Nobody outstubborns a cat...
> >
> > Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
> > Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating
> > Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/

>
>




PENMART01 28-11-2003 02:25 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
Kajikit writes:

>Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
>around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur?


Yoose cookin' em too long.


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Gtwy4cb 28-11-2003 03:57 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
>Try boiling them for less time.

You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover and
let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five minuites--the
shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the yolk.

kilikini 28-11-2003 04:53 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
Yep, you're definitely over-cooking the eggs. I consistently had this
problem too, until I got this amazing little gadget from Brookstone. It's
an egg timer. You place the egg-shaped timer in with your eggs and cover
them with cold water. Boil the water and the egg timer changes color to let
you know when the eggs are soft-boiled, medium or hard.

If I keep my eye on the timer, the eggs come out perfectly every time - no
green rings!

I did a quick search and found a link for this item on Cooking.com...
http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=103760

I've had my egg timer for about 12 years and it's still going strong!

Good luck!

Kilikini





Glenn Jacobs 28-11-2003 04:58 PM

Boiled eggs?
 


I start them in cold water boil for about 8 minutes, immediately put under
cold water and I have never had a problem. If you live at 10,000 feet as I
do boil them for 12 minutes.
--
JakeInHartsel

Bob Pastorio 28-11-2003 05:32 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
Gtwy4cb wrote:

>>Try boiling them for less time.

>
>
> You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover and
> let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five minutes--the
> shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the yolk.


The only thing I'll add is that I drain the pot and put ice water in
it. Let them sit in ice water for maybe 20 minutes. The shell comes
off easily unless the eggs are very fresh.

We always have hard-cooked eggs on hand as a snack or ingredient. I do
a dozen at a time.

Pastorio


Katra 28-11-2003 05:40 PM

Boiled eggs?
 

Kajikit wrote:
>
> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
> salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
> sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
> smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
> eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?
>
> (huggles)
>
> ~Karen AKA Kajikit
>
> Nobody outstubborns a cat...
>


You are over-cooking them. :-)
Try cutting the time back, and cooling them in cold water when you take
them off the heat...

K.

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Peter Aitken 28-11-2003 07:59 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
"Gtwy4cb" > wrote in message
...
> >Try boiling them for less time.

>
> You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover

and
> let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five

minuites--the
> shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the

yolk.

That is the way I cook eggs but it is no guarantee against the green ring.
You can also boil eggs and be ring-free. The ring is caused by sulfur
compounds in the white reacting with the yolk and causing the color change.
I had heard that the ring is caused by boiling too long or by not cooling
the eggs quickly, but I now think that other things are involved as well. I
have had batches of same-size eggs from the same carton that were boiled
together and cooled together and a few had the ring while most did not.


--
Peter Aitken

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circe 28-11-2003 08:42 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:59 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote:

>"Gtwy4cb" > wrote in message
...
>> >Try boiling them for less time.

>>
>> You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover

>and
>> let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five

>minuites--the
>> shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the

>yolk.
>
>That is the way I cook eggs but it is no guarantee against the green ring.
>You can also boil eggs and be ring-free. The ring is caused by sulfur
>compounds in the white reacting with the yolk and causing the color change.
>I had heard that the ring is caused by boiling too long or by not cooling
>the eggs quickly, but I now think that other things are involved as well. I
>have had batches of same-size eggs from the same carton that were boiled
>together and cooled together and a few had the ring while most did not.



I just got around to reading a cookbook of Alton Brown's that I got as
a gift a while back, and he claims that the best wat to hard cook eggs
is to bake them. I've been meaning to try that, and was wondering if
anyone did it that way?


circe



PENMART01 28-11-2003 08:49 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
(Gtwy4cb) writes:

>>Try boiling them for less time.

>
>You DON'T boil them!!
>Start eggs in cold water and when water <STRONG>boils</STRONG>


DUH!


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Arri London 29-11-2003 12:50 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
Kajikit wrote:
>
> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
> salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
> sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
> smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
> eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?
>
> (huggles)
>
> ~Karen AKA Kajikit



Two things: buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell) and
don't boil them as long (that will eliminate the ring).

PENMART01 29-11-2003 01:26 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
>Kajikit wrote:
>>
>> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
>> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay with
>> salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
>> sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
>> smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
>> eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?

>
>buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell)


Better eggs... better than what, better how, and how does one tell what's
inside that egg shell without it being too late?


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Robert Mueller 29-11-2003 03:09 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
Use a sterilized straight pin or an egg piercer to poke a tiny hole in
the fat end of the shell. This allows the air to escape during cooking.
I've been doing this ever since I read a tip from Julia Child years ago.
I've never had green goop, sulpher smell or a burst egg since.





Robert Mueller 29-11-2003 03:10 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
Use a sterilized straight pin or an egg piercer to poke a tiny hole in
the fat end of the shell. This allows the air to escape during cooking.
I've been doing this ever since I read a tip from Julia Child years ago.
I've never had green goop, sulpher smell or a burst egg since.





[email protected] 29-11-2003 04:30 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
circe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:59 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Gtwy4cb" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> >Try boiling them for less time.
> >>
> >> You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover

> >and
> >> let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five

> >minuites--the
> >> shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the

> >yolk.
> >
> >That is the way I cook eggs but it is no guarantee against the green ring.
> >You can also boil eggs and be ring-free. The ring is caused by sulfur
> >compounds in the white reacting with the yolk and causing the color change.
> >I had heard that the ring is caused by boiling too long or by not cooling
> >the eggs quickly, but I now think that other things are involved as well. I
> >have had batches of same-size eggs from the same carton that were boiled
> >together and cooled together and a few had the ring while most did not.

>
> I just got around to reading a cookbook of Alton Brown's that I got as
> a gift a while back, and he claims that the best wat to hard cook eggs
> is to bake them. I've been meaning to try that, and was wondering if
> anyone did it that way?
>
> circe


Whatever you do, don't microwave them or you will be cleaning your microwave's
interior for a while.

Bert

Ken Davey 29-11-2003 05:13 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
PENMART01 wrote:
>> Kajikit wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any way to make boiled eggs NOT have a blacky green ring
>>> around the yolk and NOT smell like sulphur? I like the taste okay
>>> with salt and pepper but they give me gas and I think it must be the
>>> sulphur content (isn't it the sulphur that creates the ring and the
>>> smell?) Why are boiled eggs so different from an omelette or fried
>>> eggs or any other form of cooked eggs?

>>
>> buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell)

>
> Better eggs... better than what, better how, and how does one tell
> what's inside that egg shell without it being too late?
>

Real easy, if one can find and patronize a local supplier. By that I mean
find a local non-factory producer of eggs and if necessary pay the premium
price. At least you know, personally, where your eggs come from and how
fresh they are and how the hens are treated.
Big difference from commercial operations. I know on account I used to be
one of those 'local' producers!
Ken.



circe 29-11-2003 04:46 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:30:07 GMT, wrote:

>circe wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:59 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >"Gtwy4cb" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> >Try boiling them for less time.
>> >>
>> >> You DON'T boil them!! Start eggs in cold water and when water boils, cover
>> >and
>> >> let stand for 25 minutes--run under cold water for about five
>> >minuites--the
>> >> shells will come off easily and there will be no green ring around the
>> >yolk.
>> >
>> >That is the way I cook eggs but it is no guarantee against the green ring.
>> >You can also boil eggs and be ring-free. The ring is caused by sulfur
>> >compounds in the white reacting with the yolk and causing the color change.
>> >I had heard that the ring is caused by boiling too long or by not cooling
>> >the eggs quickly, but I now think that other things are involved as well. I
>> >have had batches of same-size eggs from the same carton that were boiled
>> >together and cooled together and a few had the ring while most did not.

>>
>> I just got around to reading a cookbook of Alton Brown's that I got as
>> a gift a while back, and he claims that the best wat to hard cook eggs
>> is to bake them. I've been meaning to try that, and was wondering if
>> anyone did it that way?
>>
>> circe

>
>Whatever you do, don't microwave them or you will be cleaning your microwave's
>interior for a while.
>
>Bert



Try microwaving an acorn squash and forgetting to poke it with a knife
first. Now that's a mess......


circe


Kajikit 30-11-2003 03:48 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
Arri London saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us
all about it on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:50:43 -0700:


>Two things: buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell) and
>don't boil them as long (that will eliminate the ring).


How do you judge 'better'? We buy freerange eggs, presumably produced
by chooks fed a healthy diet and allowed to roam...

I'll give you the overboiling bit. But I seem to find it impossible to
judge how long the eggs actually NEED to cook. I'm the only one who'll
eat soft-boiled eggs.

(huggles)

~Karen AKA Kajikit

Nobody outstubborns a cat...

Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
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Arri London 30-11-2003 04:02 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
Kajikit wrote:
>
> Arri London saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us
> all about it on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:50:43 -0700:
>
> >Two things: buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell) and
> >don't boil them as long (that will eliminate the ring).

>
> How do you judge 'better'? We buy freerange eggs, presumably produced
> by chooks fed a healthy diet and allowed to roam...


Fresher. The eggs should have slightly bumpy shell and not look very
smooth. Other than the sell-by date or buying from the farmer, it's not
so easy to tell.
When the eggs are broken open, the yolks should stand proud of the white
and the whites should be very thick. A flat yolk and watery white means
an older egg.

>
> I'll give you the overboiling bit. But I seem to find it impossible to
> judge how long the eggs actually NEED to cook. I'm the only one who'll
> eat soft-boiled eggs.
>
> (huggles)
>
> ~Karen AKA Kajikit
>
>

That will vary with your altitude LOL! We need to cook eggs about 7
minutes to get hardboiled. Usually at sea level, about 5--6 minutes is
plenty.
>
> Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
> Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating
> Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/


LIMEYNO1 30-11-2003 11:34 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
The black ring has nothing to do with what type of eggs. It is strictly
caused by cooking at too high a temperature.

"Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> Arri London saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us
> all about it on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:50:43 -0700:
>
>
> >Two things: buy better eggs (that will eliminate the sulphur smell) and
> >don't boil them as long (that will eliminate the ring).

>
> How do you judge 'better'? We buy freerange eggs, presumably produced
> by chooks fed a healthy diet and allowed to roam...
>
> I'll give you the overboiling bit. But I seem to find it impossible to
> judge how long the eggs actually NEED to cook. I'm the only one who'll
> eat soft-boiled eggs.
>
> (huggles)
>
> ~Karen AKA Kajikit
>
> Nobody outstubborns a cat...
>
> Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
> Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating
> Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/




Peter Aitken 30-11-2003 11:49 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
"LIMEYNO1" > wrote in message
...
> The black ring has nothing to do with what type of eggs. It is strictly
> caused by cooking at too high a temperature.
>


No, that's not true. Boiled eggs are always cooked at the same temp - the
boiling point of water. It is cooking too long or cooling too slowly that is
supposedly the cause. I have heard rumors that these rings can also be
caused by top-posting on newsgroups.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.



PENMART01 01-12-2003 12:00 AM

Boiled eggs?
 
"LIMEYNO1" writes:

>The black ring has nothing to do with what type of eggs. It is strictly
>caused by cooking at too high a temperature.


Actually the harmless greenish ring is due to an iron and sulfur compound which
forms from cooking too long and not being cooled quickly and in a timely
fashion... water boils at 212F... how high a temperature are you talking?

http://www.aeb.org/recipes/basics/hard-cooked_eggs.htm

http://www.aeb.org/recipes/basics/ha...d_Egg_Tips.htm



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LIMEYNO1 01-12-2003 04:40 PM

Boiled eggs?
 

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
om...
> "LIMEYNO1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The black ring has nothing to do with what type of eggs. It is strictly
> > caused by cooking at too high a temperature.
> >

>
> No, that's not true. Boiled eggs are always cooked at the same temp - the
> boiling point of water. It is cooking too long or cooling too slowly that

is
> supposedly the cause. I have heard rumors that these rings can also be
> caused by top-posting on newsgroups.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
>
> Remove the crap from my email address before using.


Sorry, I disagree. Boiled eggs is a misnomer. They should be called hard
cooked eggs and the boiling is what causes the dark ring. If they are
cooked as I described, you will always have a perfect hard cooked egg
without the sulfur ring.



blake murphy 03-12-2003 07:45 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:53:57 -0500, "LIMEYNO1"
> wrote:

>The simple cause is BOILING! Don't boil hard cooked eggs. Put eggs in cold
>water, bring to a boil, cover, turn off heat and let stand for 15- 20
>minutes. You will never have the dark ring.


try it. i usually let them sit twenty minutes and then run cold water
over them. no ring, easy peel. i'm not really in a position that i
might get eggs that are 'too fresh' to hard-cook.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy 03-12-2003 07:45 PM

Boiled eggs?
 
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:49:53 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote:

>"LIMEYNO1" > wrote in message
...
>> The black ring has nothing to do with what type of eggs. It is strictly
>> caused by cooking at too high a temperature.
>>

>
>No, that's not true. Boiled eggs are always cooked at the same temp - the
>boiling point of water. It is cooking too long or cooling too slowly that is
>supposedly the cause. I have heard rumors that these rings can also be
>caused by top-posting on newsgroups.


or by being unkind to some innocent chicken.

your pal,
blake

LIMEYNO1 03-12-2003 08:26 PM

Boiled eggs?
 

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:53:57 -0500, "LIMEYNO1"
> > wrote:
>
> >The simple cause is BOILING! Don't boil hard cooked eggs. Put eggs in

cold
> >water, bring to a boil, cover, turn off heat and let stand for 15- 20
> >minutes. You will never have the dark ring.

>
> try it. i usually let them sit twenty minutes and then run cold water
> over them. no ring, easy peel. i'm not really in a position that i
> might get eggs that are 'too fresh' to hard-cook.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Heh! Me either!




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