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Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 01 Dec 2009 03:24:14p, Becca told us... > >> Dave Smith wrote: >>> I tend to keep my pantry well stocked. I never allow my staples to >>> get so low that I couldn't make something for lack of sugar, flour, >>> shortening etc. With butter prices on the rise I tend to buy a few >>> pounds at a time and stick them into the freezer. >> >> My mother tends to hoard a lot of food. When I visited over the >> weekend, my sister mentioned that Mom has been donating some of her >> canned goods to the nearby drug rehab. That works well for both of >> them. > Born in 1909 and 1913, my parents tended to stockpile a lot of food. > In their basement they had two 27 cubic foot freezers, and my dad had > built a huge number of shelves to store home-canned goods as well as > purchased products. I'm not sure I would really consider their > stockpiling to be hoarding, as they entertained frequently and apart > from fresh vegetables and fruits, tended to use things from their > "larder". If I was over for a visit, they would always urge me to > make a trip to the basement to do some "shopping". After my dad > passed away and my mother was moving to a small condo, I helped her > with packing and cleaning out things she didn't want. I noticed that > there really wasn't anything in the way of food that was out of date, > although there was clearly too much for her to take with her. I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're looking for an opportunity to buy more. I like buying extra when it's on sale. Most people do, I don't think it's anything close to hoarding. nancy |
Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > Born in 1909 and 1913, my parents tended to stockpile a lot of food. In > their basement they had two 27 cubic foot freezers, and my dad had built a > huge number of shelves to store home-canned goods as well as purchased When my parents bought their last house in 1968, it had a room full of shelves of home-canned food, like peaches. I don't remember eating any of it, so I assume it was all thrown out. |
How Britain got the Hots for Curry
Ophelia wrote:
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message > m... >> Nancy Young wrote: >> >>> Gregory Morrow wrote: >>>> notbob wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2009-11-30, Gregory Morrow > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> and stores I've visited...Indians simply have filthy habits. >>>>> Strange. I've yet to see an Indian the subject of an episode of >>>>> Hoarders. >>> I don't think that affliction knows boundaries like race. >>> >>>> Now that is a wierd show. I have a friend who's mother is a hoarder >>>> (besides her many other mental afflictions). A few years ago they >>>> cleared out just her basement and it took FIVE city trash haulers to >>>> carry away the detritus. She hoards food, had freezers in the >>>> basement full of stuff like sour cream with a 1980 expiration date, >>>> Gorton's fish sticks from 1978, etc.... >>>> >>>> When her father died she inherited around 225K from his estate and >>>> she blew that ENTIRE amount in about two years, all in grocery >>>> shopping trips... >>>> >>>> WIERD... >>> I feel badly for those people even though you want to shake some >>> sense into them. You don't need this old moldy box! You can't eat >>> this food!! I've only seen a couple episodes of that show, it's tough >>> to watch. >> >> Yeah, I get nervous about having potential "hoarder" tendencies when I >> have >> like six bags of flour in the pantry, lol... > > SIX????? Blimey:) > > > Blimey again. I usually have one each bag of whole wheat, bread, and all purpose flour in canisters for ready use and another bag of each in the freezer. Living in a warm climate I learned early on to freeze grains for a week and then sift the weevils out. They get into the flour at the factory or the market but I don't want bread, rolls, or biscuits with little black specks in it. <G> |
Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
Dave Smith wrote:
> My mother used to can fruit and vegetables so we always has a part of > the cellar stocked with jars of the peaches, pears, cherries etc. Later > on she started shopping sales and when canned goods were on sale she > would stock up. It was usually way more than she needed so she would > give me or my brothers. A few years before she died she moved into a > condo and didn't have room to hoard up like she used to, but her kitchen > pantry was always well stocked. > > I tend not to hoard too much. I realized a long time ago that I tend not > to use the stuff that has been salted away. AAMOF, I have a few jars of > jam I made that are at least ten years old and i really should empty > them out, get rid of the old jam and use the jars for some new stuff > this year. I sure don't make as much jam as I used to. > > I tend to keep my pantry well stocked. I never allow my staples to get > so low that I couldn't make something for lack of sugar, flour, > shortening etc. With butter prices on the rise I tend to buy a few > pounds at a time and stick them into the freezer. > > That last part of it is IT. But then how far does one extend the list of staple? -- Jean B. |
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blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:15:41 -0500, Dave Smith wrote: > >> Dan Abel wrote: >>> In article >, >>> Goomba > wrote: >>> >>>> Oh to be back in London having the absolute best curries of my >>>> life! (One day I must get to India!) >>>> >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8370054.stm >>> >>> I've never been to either, so my advice isn't worth much, but I've >>> read several times that the best food in India is in private homes, >>> not restaurants. Thus, some people claim that the curries in London >>> restaurants are often as good as those in restaurants in India. >> >> There is no reason that it could not be. There are enough people from >> the sub continent living in the London area that the skilled cooks >> should be there, and access to all the ingredients. I have only >> eaten in local Indian restaurants a few times, but always enjoyed >> the meals. If someone else doesn't like curries that is their loss. >> All the more for us. >> >> On a similar line.... I have heard that Chinese food available here >> is not much like food in China. I don't know if that is good or bad. >> A friend of mine lived in Taiwan for a number of years and developed >> a dislike for it, saying that it tended to be very greasy. Friends >> who have been to mainland China were not impressed with the food. > > i think the difference there might be akin to the difference between > 'peasant food' as cooked by actual peasants as opposed to 'peasant > food' cooked by chefs. > > it does seem to be true that the chinese people like fatty pork, but > i've heard lots of americans complain that the modern american pig is > too lean. That reminds me, Friday I'm going to an Asian store to stock up, I'm putting pork belly on my shopping list... This will be after a bunch of us goes to a local Chicago Chinese BBQ joint, Sun Wah, where we always get the most succulent skin - on roast pork, Chinese BBQ, etc... Pork ain't no good without a healthy dose of fat, otherwise what's the point...??? -- Best Greg |
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blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:16 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote: > >> brooklyn1 wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:25:05 -0600, "Gregory Morrow" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Goomba" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> Oh to be back in London having the absolute best curries of my >>>>>> life! (One day I must get to India!) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8370054.stm >>>>> >>>>> You can have my share. If I ever get to India, I'd be looking for >>>>> the American hotels for my meals. I'd love to visit there for >>>>> many reasons, but the food is not one of them. >>>> >>>> >>>> Try as I might, Indian food is a cuisine I could simply never dig. >>>> A *big* turn - off are the filthy conditions I've noticed in the >>>> Indian restaurants and stores I've visited...Indians simply have >>>> filthy habits. I won't even the visit the heavily Indian section >>>> of Chicago (North Side, along Devon Ave.) anymore because of the >>>> appalling amount of street litter that those people produce, it is >>>> *disgusting*... >>>> >>>> A whiles back one of the Wednesday paper food sections had a big >>>> cover article about the street and snack foods of India. The >>>> writer, from Bombay, was visiting her family there are taking one >>>> of her daughters for a first - time visit. She was describing some >>>> street vendors and I read no further when she was rapturously >>>> describing a fruit stand complete "with flies buzzing around the >>>> juicer"... >>> >>> What's an Indian fruit juicer? Are you saying the gal was crushing >>> fruit between her legs and letting the juice run down into the bed >>> pan on which she was seated... do those saris really strain out all >>> the pips? LOL >> >> Heehee, Sheldon... >> >> ;-) > > have you two had your third grade reunion yet? > We gotta keep the "troops" here entertained, blake...!!! :-) -- Best Greg |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:16:02 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> wrote: >I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't >toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk >around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're >looking for an opportunity to buy more. One of my friends parents were total pack-rats. The old mad died and left the widow with an amazing mess. And she was, like you say "looking for more." She'd spend hours and hours clipping freebie coupons and making a shopping itinerary. If something could be had for free she was going to get it even if she new damn well she'd never use it. She had shelves in the basement filled with her "treasures." You couldn't hardly walk through the maze of crap there but the shelves were all perfectly organized and faced just like a store would have them. Things like 100's of canned soups and boxed mixes. I remember there was like 10 bottles of glass cleaner and probably a 100 other miscellaneous cleaning products. Funny thing is she didn't cook much and the house wasn't all that clean. She just needed to collect. If a promotional item was given out she'd get in line 10 times to get her's and then take them home to store them. She had enough toilet paper to last a family with 4 girls a few years. The old man was a weekend warrior homeowner and had every tool you can imagine. He was also a big ham radio buff. When he croaked she would have no part of getting rid of his stuff, including the 80ft. telescoping tower sunk in six foot concrete piers in the backyard. Who knows if all the guns he had stashed were ever found. There was a 1 1/2 car garage that had just enough room to get her car in. On the other side there was a 4 car garage packed to the ceiling. There was a little path though it to a door to the backyard. They had a 2 story storage shed that was as big as the city code would allow. Also packed with crap. There were several of the old 6-8 foot satellite dishes back there. None of which were hooked up to anything. When it came time for the old lady to go to assisted living the mess overwhelmed all involved. The city they lived in had a yearly "take everything" spring clean-up day. 5 people spent 2 full days dragging stuff to the curb. They got the area between the sidewalk and the curb. It was a double corner lot so they had about 1500 sq.ft. of junk stacked as high as they could stack it. Needless to say one garbage truck couldn't take it all. Even though they do like a 25 to 1 compaction. From that point on they had to order dumpsters and pay by the pound. IIRC the weight added up to 18 tons. All carried in piece by piece of two old nutjobs. Lou |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:16:02 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > > >> I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't >> toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk >> around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're >> looking for an opportunity to buy more. > > One of my friends parents were total pack-rats. The old mad died and > left the widow with an amazing mess. And she was, like you say > "looking for more." She'd spend hours and hours clipping freebie > coupons and making a shopping itinerary. If something could be had > for free she was going to get it even if she new damn well she'd > never use it. She had shelves in the basement filled with her > "treasures." You couldn't hardly walk through the maze of crap there > but the shelves were all perfectly organized and faced just like a > store would have them. Things like 100's of canned soups and boxed > mixes. I remember there was like 10 bottles of glass cleaner and > probably a 100 other miscellaneous cleaning products. Funny thing is > she didn't cook much and the house wasn't all that clean. She just > needed to collect. If a promotional item was given out she'd get in > line 10 times to get her's and then take them home to store them. She > had enough toilet paper to last a family with 4 girls a few years. > > The old man was a weekend warrior homeowner and had every tool you can > imagine. He was also a big ham radio buff. When he croaked she would > have no part of getting rid of his stuff, including the 80ft. > telescoping tower sunk in six foot concrete piers in the backyard. > Who knows if all the guns he had stashed were ever found. > > There was a 1 1/2 car garage that had just enough room to get her car > in. On the other side there was a 4 car garage packed to the ceiling. > There was a little path though it to a door to the backyard. They had > a 2 story storage shed that was as big as the city code would allow. > Also packed with crap. There were several of the old 6-8 foot > satellite dishes back there. None of which were hooked up to > anything. > > When it came time for the old lady to go to assisted living the mess > overwhelmed all involved. The city they lived in had a yearly "take > everything" spring clean-up day. 5 people spent 2 full days dragging > stuff to the curb. They got the area between the sidewalk and the > curb. It was a double corner lot so they had about 1500 sq.ft. of junk > stacked as high as they could stack it. Needless to say one garbage > truck couldn't take it all. Even though they do like a 25 to 1 > compaction. From that point on they had to order dumpsters and pay by > the pound. IIRC the weight added up to 18 tons. All carried in piece > by piece of two old nutjobs. > > Lou > Egad! I see I have quite some way to go (or not go) in that regard. -- Jean B. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > > If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. > They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the > cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. > Ummmmmmmmmmmm, you obviously went to a different Penang than I did. Penang is part of Malaysia, yes, as for being the cleanest place you've ever seen..... I'd hate to see your house if that's what you call clean!! And as for throwing you in jail for littering...... you've got your countries arse about. Malaysia is dirty, Penang is dirty. Singapore is clean, and they'll fine you SD$500 for dropping a piece of litter in the street...... such as a cigarette butt (wish they'd do that over here!!). They'll throw you in jail and give you lashes of the Rotan for graffitiing. Did you even *go* to Penang?? Or Singapore?? -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:16:02 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > > >> I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't >> toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk >> around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're >> looking for an opportunity to buy more. > > One of my friends parents were total pack-rats. The old mad died and > left the widow with an amazing mess. And she was, like you say > "looking for more." She'd spend hours and hours clipping freebie > coupons and making a shopping itinerary. If something could be had > for free she was going to get it even if she new damn well she'd > never use it. She had shelves in the basement filled with her > "treasures." You couldn't hardly walk through the maze of crap there > but the shelves were all perfectly organized and faced just like a > store would have them. Things like 100's of canned soups and boxed > mixes. I remember there was like 10 bottles of glass cleaner and > probably a 100 other miscellaneous cleaning products. Funny thing is > she didn't cook much and the house wasn't all that clean. She just > needed to collect. If a promotional item was given out she'd get in > line 10 times to get her's and then take them home to store them. She > had enough toilet paper to last a family with 4 girls a few years. > > The old man was a weekend warrior homeowner and had every tool you can > imagine. He was also a big ham radio buff. When he croaked she would > have no part of getting rid of his stuff, including the 80ft. > telescoping tower sunk in six foot concrete piers in the backyard. > Who knows if all the guns he had stashed were ever found. > > There was a 1 1/2 car garage that had just enough room to get her car > in. On the other side there was a 4 car garage packed to the ceiling. > There was a little path though it to a door to the backyard. They had > a 2 story storage shed that was as big as the city code would allow. > Also packed with crap. There were several of the old 6-8 foot > satellite dishes back there. None of which were hooked up to > anything. > > When it came time for the old lady to go to assisted living the mess > overwhelmed all involved. The city they lived in had a yearly "take > everything" spring clean-up day. 5 people spent 2 full days dragging > stuff to the curb. They got the area between the sidewalk and the > curb. It was a double corner lot so they had about 1500 sq.ft. of junk > stacked as high as they could stack it. Needless to say one garbage > truck couldn't take it all. Even though they do like a 25 to 1 > compaction. From that point on they had to order dumpsters and pay by > the pound. IIRC the weight added up to 18 tons. All carried in piece > by piece of two old nutjobs. Can you imagine?? I wonder, was one of them a hoarder and the other grew into it? Or did they find soul mates in each other? Wow. nancy |
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"Jean B." > wrote in message ... > Lou Decruss wrote: >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:16:02 -0500, "Nancy Young" >> > wrote: >> >> >>> I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't >>> toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk >>> around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're >>> looking for an opportunity to buy more. >> >> One of my friends parents were total pack-rats. The old mad died and >> left the widow with an amazing mess. And she was, like you say >> "looking for more." She'd spend hours and hours clipping freebie >> coupons and making a shopping itinerary. If something could be had >> for free she was going to get it even if she new damn well she'd >> never use it. She had shelves in the basement filled with her >> "treasures." You couldn't hardly walk through the maze of crap there >> but the shelves were all perfectly organized and faced just like a >> store would have them. Things like 100's of canned soups and boxed >> mixes. I remember there was like 10 bottles of glass cleaner and >> probably a 100 other miscellaneous cleaning products. Funny thing is >> she didn't cook much and the house wasn't all that clean. She just >> needed to collect. If a promotional item was given out she'd get in >> line 10 times to get her's and then take them home to store them. She >> had enough toilet paper to last a family with 4 girls a few years. The >> old man was a weekend warrior homeowner and had every tool you can >> imagine. He was also a big ham radio buff. When he croaked she would >> have no part of getting rid of his stuff, including the 80ft. >> telescoping tower sunk in six foot concrete piers in the backyard. >> Who knows if all the guns he had stashed were ever found. There was a >> 1 1/2 car garage that had just enough room to get her car >> in. On the other side there was a 4 car garage packed to the ceiling. >> There was a little path though it to a door to the backyard. They had >> a 2 story storage shed that was as big as the city code would allow. >> Also packed with crap. There were several of the old 6-8 foot >> satellite dishes back there. None of which were hooked up to >> anything. >> >> When it came time for the old lady to go to assisted living the mess >> overwhelmed all involved. The city they lived in had a yearly "take >> everything" spring clean-up day. 5 people spent 2 full days dragging >> stuff to the curb. They got the area between the sidewalk and the >> curb. It was a double corner lot so they had about 1500 sq.ft. of junk >> stacked as high as they could stack it. Needless to say one garbage >> truck couldn't take it all. Even though they do like a 25 to 1 >> compaction. From that point on they had to order dumpsters and pay by >> the pound. IIRC the weight added up to 18 tons. All carried in piece >> by piece of two old nutjobs. >> >> Lou > Egad! I see I have quite some way to go (or not go) in that regard. Indeed! That is frightening. |
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:16:05 -0500, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
-->Lou Decruss wrote: -->> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:16:02 -0500, "Nancy Young" -->> > wrote: -->> -->> -->>> I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't -->>> toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk -->>> around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're -->>> looking for an opportunity to buy more. -->> -->> One of my friends parents were total pack-rats. The old mad died and -->> left the widow with an amazing mess. And she was, like you say -->> "looking for more." She'd spend hours and hours clipping freebie -->> coupons and making a shopping itinerary. If something could be had -->> for free she was going to get it even if she new damn well she'd -->> never use it. She had shelves in the basement filled with her -->> "treasures." You couldn't hardly walk through the maze of crap there -->> but the shelves were all perfectly organized and faced just like a -->> store would have them. Things like 100's of canned soups and boxed -->> mixes. I remember there was like 10 bottles of glass cleaner and -->> probably a 100 other miscellaneous cleaning products. Funny thing is -->> she didn't cook much and the house wasn't all that clean. She just -->> needed to collect. If a promotional item was given out she'd get in -->> line 10 times to get her's and then take them home to store them. She -->> had enough toilet paper to last a family with 4 girls a few years. -->> -->Can you imagine?? I wonder, was one of them a hoarder and the other -->grew into it? Or did they find soul mates in each other? Wow. --> -->nancy Know the owner of a 220 suite block, they had a older woman (who was a resident for 20 yrs) pass on in the night a few months ago. Because she had no family, she left everything to the wife of the owner. When they went to clean out the apartment, they found stuff piled to the ceiling throughout the two bedroom apartment. They had Value Village, the Salvation Army, and many other organizations take whatever they'd like. But it still took almost four weeks to empty the apartment, and another six weeks to clean, repair and repaint it. Ten weeks to make it habitable again, three months of rent lost and thousands of dollars to make liveable again. I actually was in the apartment as they were emptying it, I had no idea that you could pack so much junk in to an apartment. Just a few days ago there was a fire locally in a two story home, there was so much junk in the home that the firefighters couldn't get to the owners in time to save them. Once the fire got going they couldn't put it out as it seems there was three tons of newspapers in the house stacked everywhere. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Yeah, I bothered to read it. And I don't care what the BBC says, you're > the one who posted it. "How Britain got the Hots for Curry". If they > have to wonder it's not surprising we won the Revolutionary War :) Because they titled the article "How Britian Got The Hots For Curry" THIS is why they lost the Revolutionary War?!?! Are you able to think clearly this morning or are you a bit fizzy headed? No matter what the article was titled it was a fascinating piece and certainly made my mouth water..... > > BTW, you really *don't* want to go to India. Maybe it would be nice if > you're looking for a religious experience. The markets? Flies > everywhere, as others have mentioned. Yes, I really *do* want to go to India. Why would some flies in the market make an entire trip unwise? > > If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. > They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the > cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. > > Jill I don't get the impression you've done much traveling at all in your life. Are you recalling a brief side trip as a young child during your grand tour in Thailand? ? Did you drop your gum wrapper? |
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.. Stu . wrote:
> > Know the owner of a 220 suite block, they had a older woman (who was a resident > for 20 yrs) pass on in the night a few months ago. Because she had no family, > she left everything to the wife of the owner. When they went to clean out the > apartment, they found stuff piled to the ceiling throughout the two bedroom > apartment. They had Value Village, the Salvation Army, and many other > organizations take whatever they'd like. But it still took almost four weeks to > empty the apartment, and another six weeks to clean, repair and repaint it. > Ten weeks to make it habitable again, three months of rent lost and thousands > of dollars to make liveable again. > I actually was in the apartment as they were emptying it, I had no idea that > you could pack so much junk in to an apartment. > > Just a few days ago there was a fire locally in a two story home, there was so > much junk in the home that the firefighters couldn't get to the owners in time > to save them. Once the fire got going they couldn't put it out as it seems > there was three tons of newspapers in the house stacked everywhere. We know a woman who comes from a family of pack rats. She lives in another city and comes back here for weekends and stays in her mother's house. He mother died about 6 years ago and the mother was a collector of paper.... books, magazines, newspapers, newspaper clippings, advertising flyers etc. This woman suffers from a bit of depression and never gets around to doing anything. She was supposed to start clearing stuff out when she moved in but, not only has she not made any headway in cleaning out the papers, they have continued to pile up. A few months ago she had to clear out a path into rooms and through hallways for the insurance inspector. Her lawn is covered with stuff. There are two utility trailers and two old camper trailers in the driveway that have not moved in years. Last summer a big branch fell off a tree and landed on top of the camper trailers.Luckily, it also flattened the car that she had just taken off the road and still had insurance on. There piles of bricks, various pieces of lawn mis matched lawn furniture, lumber etc, You name it, there is a sample of it on the lawn. The house still belongs to the mother's estate and the family is holding onto it so that she can live there (1-2 days per week). She has hinted that she would like my wife come over and help her clean it up. She has a brother in town and three sons. My wife has allergies and would likely have a bad reaction to the dust and molds. I am not inspired to go to all that work when the rest of the family won't bother, and I don't think that I would have the patience for it. So the mess continues to grow. |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message m... > The house still belongs to the mother's estate and the family is holding > onto it so that she can live there (1-2 days per week). She has hinted > that she would like my wife come over and help her clean it up. She has a > brother in town and three sons. My wife has allergies and would likely > have a bad reaction to the dust and molds. I am not inspired to go to all > that work when the rest of the family won't bother, and I don't think that > I would have the patience for it. So the mess continues to grow. Why in the world would she expect you to clear it up? Are you a beneficiary of the will? |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. > They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the > cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. > > Jill What about Singapore, they do not allow anyone to chew gum in their country. Becca |
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.. Stu . wrote:
> Know the owner of a 220 suite block, they had a older woman (who was a resident > for 20 yrs) pass on in the night a few months ago. Because she had no family, > she left everything to the wife of the owner. When they went to clean out the > apartment, they found stuff piled to the ceiling throughout the two bedroom > apartment. They had Value Village, the Salvation Army, and many other > organizations take whatever they'd like. But it still took almost four weeks to > empty the apartment, and another six weeks to clean, repair and repaint it. > Ten weeks to make it habitable again, three months of rent lost and thousands > of dollars to make liveable again. > I actually was in the apartment as they were emptying it, I had no idea that > you could pack so much junk in to an apartment. > > Just a few days ago there was a fire locally in a two story home, there was so > much junk in the home that the firefighters couldn't get to the owners in time > to save them. Once the fire got going they couldn't put it out as it seems > there was three tons of newspapers in the house stacked everywhere. Books would also act as fire fodder, I imagine. -- Jean B. |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:04:08 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:
> > When it came time for the old lady to go to assisted living the mess > overwhelmed all involved. The city they lived in had a yearly "take > everything" spring clean-up day. 5 people spent 2 full days dragging > stuff to the curb. They got the area between the sidewalk and the > curb. It was a double corner lot so they had about 1500 sq.ft. of junk > stacked as high as they could stack it. Needless to say one garbage > truck couldn't take it all. Even though they do like a 25 to 1 > compaction. From that point on they had to order dumpsters and pay by > the pound. IIRC the weight added up to 18 tons. All carried in piece > by piece of two old nutjobs. > > Lou impressive. at least they didn't collect cats. your pal, blake |
Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
Ophelia wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > m... >> The house still belongs to the mother's estate and the family is holding >> onto it so that she can live there (1-2 days per week). She has hinted >> that she would like my wife come over and help her clean it up. She has a >> brother in town and three sons. My wife has allergies and would likely >> have a bad reaction to the dust and molds. I am not inspired to go to all >> that work when the rest of the family won't bother, and I don't think that >> I would have the patience for it. So the mess continues to grow. > > Why in the world would she expect you to clear it up? Are you a beneficiary > of the will? Probably because she doesn't know many other people around here anymore. I am certainly not interested in helping. I was equally interested in helping her (and her family) repair the roof. I would not even recommend a friend to do the job. I had recommended that she take her car to a friends' shop for repairs when her battery died. She was upset that the new battery that he sold her died within a week. She thought he had shafted her and I agreed to go and talk to the guy. Apparently he had told her that she needed a new alternator and explained that the reason the old battery had died was that the alternator was shot and not charging. She would not have it replaced. As a result, the nice new battery quickly ran down and died, just as anyone else would have expected. She won't take her car back to him. I am not about to send her to any other friends. They don't need the grief. |
Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message m... > Ophelia wrote: >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> m... >>> The house still belongs to the mother's estate and the family is holding >>> onto it so that she can live there (1-2 days per week). She has hinted >>> that she would like my wife come over and help her clean it up. She has >>> a brother in town and three sons. My wife has allergies and would likely >>> have a bad reaction to the dust and molds. I am not inspired to go to >>> all that work when the rest of the family won't bother, and I don't >>> think that I would have the patience for it. So the mess continues to >>> grow. >> >> Why in the world would she expect you to clear it up? Are you a >> beneficiary of the will? > > Probably because she doesn't know many other people around here anymore. > I am certainly not interested in helping. I was equally interested in > helping her (and her family) repair the roof. I would not even recommend a > friend to do the job. I had recommended that she take her car to a > friends' shop for repairs when her battery died. She was upset that the > new battery that he sold her died within a week. She thought he had > shafted her and I agreed to go and talk to the guy. Apparently he had told > her that she needed a new alternator and explained that the reason the old > battery had died was that the alternator was shot and not charging. She > would not have it replaced. As a result, the nice new battery quickly ran > down and died, just as anyone else would have expected. She won't take her > car back to him. I am not about to send her to any other friends. They > don't need the grief. oh dear:( |
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.. Stu . wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:16:05 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > Know the owner of a 220 suite block, they had a older woman (who was > a resident for 20 yrs) pass on in the night a few months ago. > Because she had no family, she left everything to the wife of the > owner. Gee thanks. Heh. > When they went to clean out the apartment, they found stuff > piled to the ceiling throughout the two bedroom apartment. They had > Value Village, the Salvation Army, and many other organizations take > whatever they'd like. But it still took almost four weeks to empty > the apartment, and another six weeks to clean, repair and repaint it. > Ten weeks to make it habitable again, three months of rent lost and > thousands of dollars to make liveable again. > I actually was in the apartment as they were emptying it, I had no > idea that you could pack so much junk in to an apartment. I bet they inspect their rental property periodically now. > Just a few days ago there was a fire locally in a two story home, > there was so much junk in the home that the firefighters couldn't get > to the owners in time to save them. Once the fire got going they > couldn't put it out as it seems there was three tons of newspapers in > the house stacked everywhere. That brought back a memory from where I grew up. There was a big house where two elderly sisters died in a fire and it was because of what you say, the house was packed with newspapers. I didn't realize how common that was. nancy |
How Britain got the Hots for Curry
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 05:30:38 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote: >"Goomba" > wrote in message ... >> Oh to be back in London having the absolute best curries of my life! (One >> day I must get to India!) >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8370054.stm > > > >I'm surprised you have to wonder about this, given that India was a British >province. Food travels. It always has. Marco Polo brought pasta from >China to Italy. Thomas Jefferson brought pasta to the "new world" (now the >U.S.). Conversely, he took them tomatoes and corn. Actually the new world had pasta first (long before anywhere else), just because they didn't call it pasta, and it wasn't made with wheat, corn tortillas are still a noodle. So explain to me how cannelloni isn't a Mexican dish. .. |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:16:36 -0500, brooklyn1 >
wrote: >On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 05:30:38 -0500, "jmcquown" > >wrote: > >>"Goomba" > wrote in message ... >>> Oh to be back in London having the absolute best curries of my life! (One >>> day I must get to India!) >>> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8370054.stm >> >> >> >>I'm surprised you have to wonder about this, given that India was a British >>province. Food travels. It always has. Marco Polo brought pasta from >>China to Italy. Thomas Jefferson brought pasta to the "new world" (now the >>U.S.). Conversely, he took them tomatoes and corn. > > >Actually the new world had pasta first (long before anywhere else), >just because they didn't call it pasta, and it wasn't made with wheat, >corn tortillas are still a noodle. So explain to me how cannelloni >isn't a Mexican dish. Dang! And here is thought tlaxcalli and arepa were flat breads. |
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Goomba > wrote in news:7nnevoF3lvioaU1
@mid.individual.net: > jmcquown wrote: >> >> If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. >> They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the >> cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. >> >> Jill > > I don't get the impression you've done much traveling at all in your > life. Are you recalling a brief side trip as a young child during your > grand tour in Thailand? ? Did you drop your gum wrapper? If she did it in Penang (highly unlikely as it is!!) they wouldn't have given her a second look. If she did it in Singapore, that'd be a different story. I seriously doubt that JillyMac has been to either country, as if she had done so recently, she'd know the bloody difference (as far as litter/cleanliness goes) between the two is *HUGE*. It's one reason why my SO doesn't want to go back to Malaysia, but is quite happy to go back to Singapore. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
Hoarding ...was How Britain got the Hots for Curry
On Dec 2, 7:16*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Tue 01 Dec 2009 03:24:14p, Becca told us... > > >> Dave Smith wrote: > >>> I tend to keep my pantry well stocked. I never allow my staples to > >>> get so low that I couldn't make something for lack of sugar, flour, > >>> shortening etc. With butter prices on the rise I tend to buy a few > >>> pounds at a time and stick them into the freezer. > > >> My mother tends to hoard a lot of food. *When I visited over the > >> weekend, my sister mentioned that Mom has been donating some of her > >> canned goods to the nearby drug rehab. *That works well for both of > >> them. > > Born in 1909 and 1913, my parents tended to stockpile a lot of food. > > In their basement they had two 27 cubic foot freezers, and my dad had > > built a huge number of shelves to store home-canned goods as well as > > purchased products. *I'm not sure I would really consider their > > stockpiling to be hoarding, as they entertained frequently and apart > > from fresh vegetables and fruits, tended to use things from their > > "larder". *If I was over for a visit, they would always urge me to > > make a trip to the basement to do some "shopping". *After my dad > > passed away and my mother was moving to a small condo, I helped her > > with packing and cleaning out things she didn't want. I noticed that > > there really wasn't anything in the way of food that was out of date, > > although there was clearly too much for her to take with her. > > I guess the line between stockpiling and hoarding is when you won't > toss food that has obviously gone bad and/or you can't even walk > around your home because you've accumulated so much ... and you're > looking for an opportunity to buy more. * > > I like buying extra when it's on sale. *Most people do, I don't think > it's anything close to hoarding. > > nancy Think a bit guilty of both Hoard spare parts ,equipment, nuts and bolts bits of steel etc Generator sets windmil bits & so forth Hammer the clearing sales and auctions (hence so many freezers & fridges) Often at Auctions we see PALLETS of tinned food from various sources Quick whip around the neighbours ( there is x amount of ABC etc here at Y $ how many/much do you want? ) Neighbours do the same for us Often similar auctions /clearing sales are happening at the same time and a few different folks grab a b road range of food or gear once every three months the community pools excess and has an auction and proceeds are split 50/50 into the next auction combined kitty and into a banck account for charity and or community benefit (example sun shades to cover the pool and playground areas buy new gear for the volunteer ambulance and firefighters etc ) Example on Tuesday pallets of soft drinks in 1.25 litre bottles came up (almost time expired) worked out 3 cents a bottle ! 1440 bottles though :( So they half went to the salvation Army for their xmas hampers What nearly made me weep though was on way back we pulled into a mango farm and recent weather had badly marked the fruits So for local currency spoke to one of the truckies who was taking an near empty semi back (local currency is "a slab" = carton of beer So a few slabs later 5 bulker crates of Mangos and the CWA (Country womans association) from a community half way back are now busy making Mango chutneys ( We donated the chillis) These get sold throughout the year at fairs and town stalls etc The folks that grew the mangos wanted nothing for them as they were just going to get pulped /dumped at the local chook sheds (chickens it appears like mango ) So those in the vehicle all chipped in $50.00 ($200) and bought what we call scratchies Sort of lottery tickets We received emails saying quiet a few were winners from $2.00 up to $250.00 The Vietnamese growers have invited us back for a visit next time we are up that way Heck its only 2400 KM away :) Why are we telling you all this ? Because it saves us money keeps the money churning within the local communities where the big food chains $ go who knows and the food is FRESH But sick of mangos at the moment and only place to eat them is in the spa :) SWMBO & I (along with others ) are now sick of mangos The skins are happily composting away ( makes excellent mulch ) But from what was going to get dumped has helped many facets of a number of communities . Also gives the oldies something to do :) |
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On Dec 2, 9:44*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Yeah, I bothered to read it. *And I don't care what the BBC says, you're the > one who posted it. *"How Britain got the Hots for Curry". *If they have to > wonder it's not surprising we won the Revolutionary War :) You paid the French to help remember ! > > BTW, you really *don't* want to go to India. *Maybe it would be nice if > you're looking for a religious experience. *The markets? *Flies everywhere, > as others have mentioned. > > If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. *They'll > put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. *It's the cleanest place > I've ever seen :) *They take it very seriously. > > Jill SAY WHAT!!! Why would you give such blatent incorrect advice ? If Penang is the cleanest place you have ever seen then I feel very sorry for you . Its a sink hole, dirty, locals spitting every where and now full of Arabs holidaying (with the males wearing next to nothing on the beaches while the wives look like -*cousin it*- from the Adams Family all rugged up in Blue or black and brown Penang Island has some nice spots for sure but no way is it as pristine as you describe . Have you ever been there ? I visit there more than a few times during the year and three weeks ago on a flying visit to Singapore we ducked up there for a conferance its still an untidy (if notalmost a putrid place) Even the locals have the Irits with the new type of visitors as well as many of the Mat salehs (us white folks) On the other Hand Singapore also an Island off Malaysia (albeit connected by a causeway ) Apart from being hot sticky and humid is damn near an operating theatre in cleanliness compared to Penang or Langkawi I will be in those places again in a couple of weeks would you like me to take comparison photos ? :) Heck I could eamil you privately so you can later disclose to all and sundry via this medium like you did about a deceased person recently . Penang CLEAN? - I say your either confused or horribly geographicly challenged or just telling bullshit . |
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"Goomba" > wrote in message
... > jmcquown wrote: > >> Yeah, I bothered to read it. And I don't care what the BBC says, you're >> the one who posted it. "How Britain got the Hots for Curry". If they >> have to wonder it's not surprising we won the Revolutionary War :) > > Because they titled the article "How Britian Got The Hots For Curry" THIS > is why they lost the Revolutionary War?!?! Are you able to think clearly > this morning or are you a bit fizzy headed? No matter what the article was > titled it was a fascinating piece and certainly made my mouth water..... > >> >> BTW, you really *don't* want to go to India. Maybe it would be nice if >> you're looking for a religious experience. The markets? Flies >> everywhere, as others have mentioned. > > Yes, I really *do* want to go to India. Why would some flies in the market > make an entire trip unwise? >> >> If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. >> They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the >> cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. >> >> Jill > > I don't get the impression you've done much traveling at all in your life. > Are you recalling a brief side trip as a young child during your grand > tour in Thailand? ? Did you drop your gum wrapper? I don't chew gum. Let's see where I've lived and visited, then you can tell me if I've travelled... CA, NJ, VA, NC, PA, OH, TN, SC... Thailand (2 years). Laos. Maylasia (Penang is absolutely beautiful, BTW), the Phillipines, Bombay, Tel Aviv. Back on this continent Niagara Falls where I ate outstanding fish & chips with malt vinegar. No, you're right. I guess I've never actually been anywhere ;) Jill |
How Britain got the Hots for Curry
jmcquown wrote:
> "Goomba" > wrote in message > ... >> jmcquown wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I bothered to read it. And I don't care what the BBC says, >>> you're the one who posted it. "How Britain got the Hots for Curry". >>> If they have to wonder it's not surprising we won the Revolutionary >>> War :) >> >> Because they titled the article "How Britian Got The Hots For Curry" >> THIS is why they lost the Revolutionary War?!?! Are you able to think >> clearly this morning or are you a bit fizzy headed? No matter what the >> article was titled it was a fascinating piece and certainly made my >> mouth water..... >> >>> >>> BTW, you really *don't* want to go to India. Maybe it would be nice >>> if you're looking for a religious experience. The markets? Flies >>> everywhere, as others have mentioned. >> >> Yes, I really *do* want to go to India. Why would some flies in the >> market make an entire trip unwise? >>> >>> If you go anywhere, go to Penang Island off the coast of Malaysia. >>> They'll put you in jail just for dropping a piece of gum. It's the >>> cleanest place I've ever seen :) They take it very seriously. >>> >>> Jill >> >> I don't get the impression you've done much traveling at all in your >> life. Are you recalling a brief side trip as a young child during your >> grand tour in Thailand? ? Did you drop your gum wrapper? > > > > I don't chew gum. Let's see where I've lived and visited, then you can > tell me if I've travelled... CA, NJ, VA, NC, PA, OH, TN, SC... Thailand > (2 years). Laos. Maylasia (Penang is absolutely beautiful, BTW), the > Phillipines, Bombay, Tel Aviv. Back on this continent Niagara Falls > where I ate outstanding fish & chips with malt vinegar. No, you're > right. I guess I've never actually been anywhere ;) > > Jill Wow, eight states! Damn, that's impressive! And five countries as a child in-tow. Amazing stuff! Rob |
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On Dec 4, 8:38*am, Rob > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: snip > >> life. Are you recalling a brief side trip as a young child during your > >> grand tour in Thailand? ? Did you drop your gum wrapper? > > > I don't chew gum. Let's see where I've lived and visited, then you can > > tell me if I've travelled... CA, NJ, VA, NC, PA, OH, TN, SC... Thailand > > (2 years). Laos. Maylasia (Penang is absolutely beautiful, BTW), the > > Phillipines, Bombay, Tel Aviv. Back on this continent Niagara Falls > > where I ate outstanding fish & chips with malt vinegar. No, you're > > right. I guess I've never actually been anywhere ;) > > > Jill > > Wow, eight states! *Damn, that's impressive! *And five countries as a > child in-tow. *Amazing stuff! > > Rob it appears Jill does not like others opinions one little bit and will attempt to step back when faced with the facts Penang in some parts is lovely other parts is a cess pool Bit like many other places really But to say its the cleanest place she has ever been then she better get out and away more before lecturing others see http://www.pbase.com/mooremargo/image/46175365 sewer drain with Fresh food on top http://www.whatthetoot.com/blog/wp-c.../penang045.jpg some of the local fare http://ning8poc.files.wordpress.com/...9/p1000901.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/...8949232da6.jpg Food related http://www.penangfoods.com/air-itam-...-by-the-drain/ Yeah Right Jill :( If you wish to jack boot about make sure you know what country you are talking about http://www.fishingnewsroom.com/viewt...?f=21&p=155927 |
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:07:42 -0800 (PST), Pits09 >
wrote: >Yeah Right Jill :( > >If you wish to jack boot about make sure you know what country you are >talking about That's what she knows and that's what she remembers. She didn't tour every nook and cranny. Most people do a hit and run visits. For instance, my opinion of Egypt is based on Cairo (ugh), but I hear there is a pristine area where Europeans vacation. If I had been there, my opinion of Egypt would be different. As it is Egypt (for me) is BTDT, not in any hurry to return. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Dec 4, 1:15*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:07:42 -0800 (PST), Pits09 > > wrote: > > >Yeah Right Jill *:( > > >If you wish to jack boot about make sure you know what country you are > >talking about > > That's what she knows and that's what she remembers. *She didn't tour > every nook and cranny. *Most people do a hit and run visits. *For > instance, my opinion of Egypt is based on Cairo (ugh), but I hear > there is a pristine area where Europeans vacation. *If I had been > there, my opinion of Egypt would be different. *As it is Egypt (for > me) is BTDT, not in any hurry to return. > > -- > I love cooking with wine. > Sometimes I even put it in the food. Egypt is a lot bigger than TINY Penag island |
moron morrow The Smarmy LIAR...!!! <<== [WAS: How Britain got the Hots for Curry
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
m: > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> "PeterL" > wrote in message >>> Ed........ if you're not going to partake of the food of 'origin'... >>> you might as well stay at home and enjoy your Pizza Hut and your >>> Burger King. >>> >>> It's because of people like you that we see these 'culinary' >>> abominations popping up all over the world. >>> >>> I was in Moscow when the first Pizza Hut and MacDonalds opened there. >>> Why?? Because bloody minded Americans visited and always *demanded* >>> something they knew, and wanted. >>> >>> >>> If you're going to travel.......... go local. >>> >>> If your delicate sensibilities can't handle it..... stay the **** at >>> home. >>> >>> -- >>> Peter Lucas >>> Brisbane >>> Australia >> >> I've been to many other countries and look forward to going local. I >> just can't stand curry and no, I'm not staying home because of that. >> I'm sure the people of India will welcome me and take my money. If >> they give me a hard time, I'll just tell them I'm from Australia and >> we demand good food. > > > Peter LucASS is LYING about the opening of the Moscow McDo's, Pizza Hut, > and other fast food operations - and not just lying about being there, > which he most certainly was *not*... > (snip the rest of it's baseless bullshit) > > Of course LIAR Peter LucASS does not know this, and he most certainly > has not set foot out of his decrepit council (welfare, paid for by > taxpayers since he's on the dole) flat in the rock he lives under down > under in The Land Of Oz.. ROFLMAO!!! I just found this little gem of a post........ I wonder if the moron actually thinks that people will take it's constant lies and bullshit as fact?? Talk about delusional!! It must be the AIDS eating away at it's brain that is making it believe it's own bullshit. Time to take your foot out of your mouth, moron morrow, and toddle of with your other *** mate, Twitilliger, and both of you go get the bullet holes in your feet fixed up!! ROFL!!!!! http://i47.tinypic.com/335giee.jpg -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia Killfile all Google Groups posters......... http://improve-usenet.org/ http://improve-usenet.org/filters_bg.html |
moron morrow The Smarmy LIAR...!!! <<== [WAS: How Britain got the Hots for Curry
In article >, PeterL1
@home.upstairs.in.brissie.aus said... : :"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in om: : :> Ed Pawlowski wrote: :> :>> "PeterL" > wrote in message :>>> Ed........ if you're not going to partake of the food of 'origin'... :>>> you might as well stay at home and enjoy your Pizza Hut and your :>>> Burger King. :>>> :>>> It's because of people like you that we see these 'culinary' :>>> abominations popping up all over the world. :>>> :>>> I was in Moscow when the first Pizza Hut and MacDonalds opened there. :>>> Why?? Because bloody minded Americans visited and always *demanded* :>>> something they knew, and wanted. :>>> :>>> :>>> If you're going to travel.......... go local. :>>> :>>> If your delicate sensibilities can't handle it..... stay the **** at :>>> home. :>>> :>>> -- :>>> Peter Lucas :>>> Brisbane :>>> Australia :>> :>> I've been to many other countries and look forward to going local. I :>> just can't stand curry and no, I'm not staying home because of that. :>> I'm sure the people of India will welcome me and take my money. If :>> they give me a hard time, I'll just tell them I'm from Australia and :>> we demand good food. :> :> :> Peter LucASS is LYING about the opening of the Moscow McDo's, Pizza Hut, :> and other fast food operations - and not just lying about being there, :> which he most certainly was *not*... :> : :(snip the rest of it's baseless bullshit) : :> :> Of course LIAR Peter LucASS does not know this, and he most certainly :> has not set foot out of his decrepit council (welfare, paid for by :> taxpayers since he's on the dole) flat in the rock he lives under down :> under in The Land Of Oz.. : : :ROFLMAO!!! : :I just found this little gem of a post........ I wonder if the moron actually :thinks that people will take it's constant lies and bullshit as fact?? Talk :about delusional!! : :It must be the AIDS eating away at it's brain that is making it believe it's :own bullshit. : :Time to take your foot out of your mouth, moron morrow, and toddle of with :your other *** mate, Twitilliger, and both of you go get the bullet holes in :your feet fixed up!! ROFL!!!!! : :http://i47.tinypic.com/335giee.jpg LOL, same old mental case!!! |
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