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The Cook 27-09-2009 08:46 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>Heya folks,
>
>I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>$4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.
>
>Now, I read several food blogs in this arena....on this very
>challenge. It really astounded me..to say the least. Most had a
>difficult time with the challenge..and some had an extremely difficult
>time.
>
>I have to say that some qualified that they had never had to deal with
>anything like this in real life....
>
>One thing I found extraordinary, was that some shopped at Whole Foods
>for their food..and that was their main grocery store. I don't know
>exactly why, other than maybe they wanted to stay as organic as
>possible in their food supply.
>
>But it truly strikes me as being very unrealistic, in trying to
>stretch their food dollars as far as possible. Maybe they don;t know
>any better..maybe they just want to stay as close to organic as
>possible.
>
>For me..I would want to get as much value as I can for my dollar. That
>would mean shopping the sales at the stores, shopping at ethnic
>markets..and generally avoiding the high end markets..whatever they
>might be. I probably would avoid Whole Foods or similar stores...for
>the time being... even if I really wanted to be organic. That could
>go by the wayside for the time being, if my tummy was growling.
>
>And I would shop for the month..not the day.
>
>Am I totally off on this? What would you all do? If you wanted to
>stay organic, would you still shop at places like Whole Foods? Or
>would you compromise to save money? Would you compromise, to feed
>yourself and your family..or would you short them and yourself, cause
>you felt you needed to stay organic and pay top dollar?
>
>Just curious
>
>Mind you..this would be if you only had a set amount coming if for the
>whole month. What would you do???
>
>Christine, who is venting on this in a blog post.


I don't think most of the responses have been about organic. For most
of the people who are thrown into that situation what they need most
is education. They need to be taught basic nutrition, how to shop and
what to buy to get the most food value for their money. They need to
know how to prepare and store what they buy.

I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time. So you
spend more this week but then you don't have to buy laundry detergent
every time you go.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

koko 27-09-2009 09:23 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>
>>Heya folks,
>>
>>I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>>Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>>$4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

snippage

>I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
>week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
>were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
>I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.


If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
better I could do without him.
As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.

koko
--

There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 09/23

The Cook 27-09-2009 09:31 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:23:05 -0700, koko > wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>>
>>>Heya folks,
>>>
>>>I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>>>Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>>>$4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

>snippage
>
>>I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
>>week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
>>were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
>>I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

>
>If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
>better I could do without him.
>As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
>
>koko


I would have too. He was at the time an Air Force Captain on flying
status. He made good money.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Gloria P 27-09-2009 09:47 PM

Organic or not?
 
koko wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Heya folks,
>>>
>>> I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>>> Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>>> $4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

> snippage
>
>> I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
>> week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
>> were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
>> I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

>
> If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
> better I could do without him.
> As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
>
> koko
> --



I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation budget/diet
or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the circumstances.

I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget if
we had to.

gloria p

Andy[_15_] 27-09-2009 09:56 PM

Organic or not?
 
Gloria P said...

> koko wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heya folks,
>>>>
>>>> I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>>>> Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>>>> $4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

>> snippage
>>
>>> I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
>>> week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
>>> were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
>>> I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

>>
>> If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
>> better I could do without him.
>> As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
>>
>> koko
>> --

>
>
> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation budget/diet
> or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the circumstances.
>
> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget if
> we had to.
>
> gloria p



Definitely not playing Scrooge, I remember one of the first times in a
wholesale club, I convinced myself I needed to buy a gallon tub of
mayonnaise, thinking I was being thrifty.

I probably used a couple cups over a couple months before throwing the rest
away.

Andy <-- KICK ME!!!

cshenk 27-09-2009 10:14 PM

Organic or not?
 
"Gloria P" wrote

> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation budget/diet or
> perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the circumstances.
>
> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget if
> we had to.


Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and as
we all know, that's less cost.


Andy[_15_] 27-09-2009 10:35 PM

Organic or not?
 
cshenk said...

> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and as
> we all know, that's less cost.



cshenk,

Reminds me of Thanksgiving, where cooking is all relatives! :)))

<G>

Best,

Andy

notbob 27-09-2009 10:49 PM

Organic or not?
 
On 2009-09-27, cshenk > wrote:

> My family happens to like scratch cooking......


I never knew how much better it was till now. Mom has plenty of food.
So much so, even some of the dry goods have aged beyond edible. She
lives on canned goods, frozen veggies, tv dinners, and boxed instant
everything and has multiple pantries of the stuff. She has problems
with prepping fresh foods, which I understand. Even though all this
food is free to me, I finally could stand it no longer.

Despite my very fixed income, I've started buying my own real food and
cooking again from scratch. Cooked up a pot of beans n hocks,
Thur. A batch of fried rice on Tue. I'm making minestrone from
scratch, tonight. Will cook up a mess o' fresh greens n hocks on Tue.
It's simple fare, nothing fancy, but lordy oh lordy, what a
difference! ;)

nb

cshenk 27-09-2009 11:08 PM

Organic or not?
 
"Andy" wrote
> cshenk said...


>> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and
>> as
>> we all know, that's less cost.


> cshenk,
> Reminds me of Thanksgiving, where cooking is all relatives! :)))


Long as you aint cooking the relatives, works for me!

Meantime, dinner was great! We couldnt eat it all, but that is normal.
It's a planned leftover for my work lunch. Should have made more udon duck
soup though as there isnt enough left to fill my small thermos. Ah well,
Hon-dashi if I wish (soup).


Gloria P 27-09-2009 11:10 PM

Organic or not?
 
cshenk wrote:
> "Gloria P" wrote
>
>> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation
>> budget/diet or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the
>> circumstances.
>>
>> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget
>> if we had to.

>
> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and
> as we all know, that's less cost.
>



I agree, but even scratch cooking can have expensive ingredients
depending on how "gourmet" (aka fancy) you get. Some of the meal menus
folks post on rfc sound like they are in that category.

gloria p

Omelet[_7_] 27-09-2009 11:20 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
koko > wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Heya folks,
> >>
> >>I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
> >>Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
> >>$4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

> snippage
>
> >I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
> >week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
> >were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
> >I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

>
> If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
> better I could do without him.
> As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
>
> koko


Well said Koko! I was thinking the same thing...
She needs a job and a separate checking account if nothing else!
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein


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Omelet[_7_] 27-09-2009 11:21 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
Gloria P > wrote:

> koko wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Heya folks,
> >>>
> >>> I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
> >>> Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
> >>> $4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

> > snippage
> >
> >> I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
> >> week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
> >> were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
> >> I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

> >
> > If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
> > better I could do without him.
> > As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
> >
> > koko
> > --

>
>
> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation budget/diet
> or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the circumstances.
>
> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget if
> we had to.
>
> gloria p


It's possible to live entirely on rice, beans, and tortillas...
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein


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cshenk 27-09-2009 11:25 PM

Organic or not?
 
"Gloria P" wrote
> cshenk wrote:


>>> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget if
>>> we had to.

>>
>> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and
>> as we all know, that's less cost.


> I agree, but even scratch cooking can have expensive ingredients depending
> on how "gourmet" (aka fancy) you get. Some of the meal menus
> folks post on rfc sound like they are in that category.


True but do mine? Yes I do use the expensive sesame oils, but at a few drops
a serving, it's 5cents if that.

Folks tend to post the fancy meals. I tend to post 'what did i just do'.
You won't see shallots, but you may see shiitake. We might pig out on
brussel sprouts and carrot soup one day, and the other will be cherrystone
clams and mushrooms.

The only surity here, is it will vary, almost always come with rice, and
have 2 or more veggies for dinner.


notbob 27-09-2009 11:25 PM

Organic or not?
 
On 2009-09-27, Omelet > wrote:

> It's possible to live entirely on rice, beans, and tortillas...


Not quite

Toss the rice and substitute beer and this will work. I did it.
Lost 50 lbs in 9 mos. ;)

nb

cshenk 27-09-2009 11:41 PM

Organic or not?
 
"notbob" wrote
> cshenk wrote:


>> My family happens to like scratch cooking......


> I never knew how much better it was till now. Mom has plenty of food.
> So much so, even some of the dry goods have aged beyond edible. She
> lives on canned goods, frozen veggies, tv dinners, and boxed instant
> everything and has multiple pantries of the stuff. She has problems
> with prepping fresh foods, which I understand. Even though all this
> food is free to me, I finally could stand it no longer.


Grin, my mom is 78. Lovely woman and if she has any failing at all, it's
that she's not much of a cook. Kinda hard for her to start now too. She
hasnt multiple pantries of that stuff, but she normally has lots of it.

> Despite my very fixed income, I've started buying my own real food and
> cooking again from scratch. Cooked up a pot of beans n hocks,
> Thur. A batch of fried rice on Tue. I'm making minestrone from
> scratch, tonight. Will cook up a mess o' fresh greens n hocks on Tue.
> It's simple fare, nothing fancy, but lordy oh lordy, what a
> difference! ;)


Note the cost going down as you get better at this. Take it easy and make
simple. Bacon or sausage fat on cabbage can be a delight!


Omelet[_7_] 27-09-2009 11:54 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
Gloria P > wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> > "Gloria P" wrote
> >
> >> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation
> >> budget/diet or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the
> >> circumstances.
> >>
> >> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget
> >> if we had to.

> >
> > Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and
> > as we all know, that's less cost.
> >

>
>
> I agree, but even scratch cooking can have expensive ingredients
> depending on how "gourmet" (aka fancy) you get. Some of the meal menus
> folks post on rfc sound like they are in that category.
>
> gloria p


We do that for birthdays. <g>
And it's still cheaper than going out to eat!
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein


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Andy[_15_] 27-09-2009 11:54 PM

Organic or not?
 
cshenk said...

> "Andy" wrote
>> cshenk said...

>
>>> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking
>>> and as
>>> we all know, that's less cost.

>
>> cshenk,
>> Reminds me of Thanksgiving, where cooking is all relatives! :)))

>
> Long as you aint cooking the relatives, works for me!
>
> Meantime, dinner was great! We couldnt eat it all, but that is normal.
> It's a planned leftover for my work lunch. Should have made more udon
> duck soup though as there isnt enough left to fill my small thermos. Ah
> well, Hon-dashi if I wish (soup).



cshenk,

Glad to hear it.

Sorry to hear about the soup shortage. Probably would've happened to me
too! :(

Best,

Andy

Omelet[_7_] 27-09-2009 11:55 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2009-09-27, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > It's possible to live entirely on rice, beans, and tortillas...

>
> Not quite
>
> Toss the rice and substitute beer and this will work. I did it.
> Lost 50 lbs in 9 mos. ;)
>
> nb


Beans and beer?

Explosive combination... <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein


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Andy[_15_] 28-09-2009 12:00 AM

Organic or not?
 
Omelet said...

> In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2009-09-27, Omelet > wrote:
>>
>> > It's possible to live entirely on rice, beans, and tortillas...

>>
>> Not quite
>>
>> Toss the rice and substitute beer and this will work. I did it.
>> Lost 50 lbs in 9 mos. ;)
>>
>> nb

>
> Beans and beer?
>
> Explosive combination... <g>



And that's why bob is notbob anymore! LOLOL!!!

Andy

notbob 28-09-2009 12:37 AM

Organic or not?
 
On 2009-09-27, cshenk > wrote:

> simple. Bacon or sausage fat on cabbage can be a delight!


Yeah. I almost bought a head of Napa cabbage for the minestrone and
to put in ramen noodles, but it was bone white (ick!) and very dirty
(ewww..). I like mine green and clean. ;)

nb

brooklyn1 28-09-2009 01:42 AM

Organic or not?
 
Gloria P wrote:
>cshenk wrote:
>> "Gloria P" wrote
>>
>>> I would show Scrooge what it's like to live on a starvation
>>> budget/diet or perhaps take Koko's path depending on all the
>>> circumstances.
>>>
>>> I do think that many of us could live on a less expensive food budget
>>> if we had to.

>>
>> Smile, it's all relative. My family happens to like scratch cooking and
>> as we all know, that's less cost.
>>

>
>
>I agree, but even scratch cooking can have expensive ingredients
>depending on how "gourmet" (aka fancy) you get. Some of the meal menus
>folks post on rfc sound like they are in that category.
>
>

Fancy schmancy is the easiest kind of cooking, when you never have to
show anyone.

Tonight's dinner was fried kielbasa with beans (Hillshire Farms and
generic canned red beans in chili sauce), anyone wants I can post a
pic of the fancy schmancy ingredients... didn't really think so.






Gloria P 28-09-2009 03:20 AM

Organic or not?
 
brooklyn1 wrote:

>>

> Fancy schmancy is the easiest kind of cooking, when you never have to
> show anyone.
>
> Tonight's dinner was fried kielbasa with beans (Hillshire Farms and
> generic canned red beans in chili sauce), anyone wants I can post a
> pic of the fancy schmancy ingredients... didn't really think so.
>
>



My husband loves the Hillshire Farms smoked sausage. I cut it in small
cubes and brown it with lots of onions and peppers, then add partially
cooked potatoes (cut into small cubes and microwaved till almost
tender.) I skim most of the fat from the sausage but what is left adds
a really nice flavor to the rest.

Tonight we had a quick-and-easy, small meatballs I had frozen in
one-meal batches, simmered in beef broth with sauteed mushrooms and a
little minced onion. Thickened with cornstarch slurry and a bit of
sour cream added just before serving over medium egg noodles.

We had salad with it and he had swiss chard, chopped and wilted in
butter with some onion and garlic. (I really don't like it so we
compromise--he plants, picks and eats it and I don't complain.)

Tomorrow I think I will thaw some moussaka I made a few weeks ago.

gloria p

brooklyn1 28-09-2009 02:11 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:20:42 -0600, Gloria P >
wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>>

>> Fancy schmancy is the easiest kind of cooking, when you never have to
>> show anyone.
>>
>> Tonight's dinner was fried kielbasa with beans (Hillshire Farms and
>> generic canned red beans in chili sauce), anyone wants I can post a
>> pic of the fancy schmancy ingredients... didn't really think so.

>
>
>My husband loves the Hillshire Farms smoked sausage. I cut it in small
>cubes and brown it with lots of onions and peppers, then add partially
>cooked potatoes (cut into small cubes and microwaved till almost
>tender.) I skim most of the fat from the sausage but what is left adds
>a really nice flavor to the rest.
>
>Tonight we had a quick-and-easy, small meatballs I had frozen in
>one-meal batches, simmered in beef broth with sauteed mushrooms and a
>little minced onion. Thickened with cornstarch slurry and a bit of
>sour cream added just before serving over medium egg noodles.
>
>We had salad with it and he had swiss chard, chopped and wilted in
>butter with some onion and garlic. (I really don't like it so we
>compromise--he plants, picks and eats it and I don't complain.)
>
>Tomorrow I think I will thaw some moussaka I made a few weeks ago.
>
>gloria p


I'm not into moussaka if it's made with lamb... baaaaad... I hate
lamb. During WWII when food was rationed lamb was most plentiful (the
military didn't serve lamb), as a kid I ate so much lamb that I can no
longer tolerate that stench... I don't like fehta cheese either... and
I'll drink anything, I like ouzo but retsina is something should be
sold at the paint store.

Dinner fixings... I have a hunk of roast pork loin from the weekend,
not sure how I'll prepare it, could even be sandwiches... does Fancy
Feast count as fancy schmancy ingredients, got cases of that.
http://i35.tinypic.com/316b4fq.jpg





Omelet[_7_] 28-09-2009 06:03 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> I'm not into moussaka if it's made with lamb... baaaaad... I hate
> lamb. During WWII when food was rationed lamb was most plentiful (the
> military didn't serve lamb), as a kid I ate so much lamb that I can no
> longer tolerate that stench... I don't like fehta cheese either... and
> I'll drink anything, I like ouzo but retsina is something should be
> sold at the paint store.
>
> Dinner fixings... I have a hunk of roast pork loin from the weekend,
> not sure how I'll prepare it, could even be sandwiches... does Fancy
> Feast count as fancy schmancy ingredients, got cases of that.
> http://i35.tinypic.com/316b4fq.jpg


I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>

Isis prefers the Whiskas brand pouches to Fancy Feast, but she gets
both. I just alternate them. I'm trying to get some weight back on her
(and it's working). The other cats get either Nine Lives or Friskies.

They have kibbles available 24/7 and I vary the brands regularly to keep
them interested. Purina Cat chows (different flavors), Friskies, Whiskas
and Meow Mix.

They really like Meow Mix. :-)

The one thing I will NOT buy is generic cat (or dog) food!

Even my Emu gets Purina. A 50/50 mix of rabbit pellets and poultry feed.
Emus need extra fiber as they are omnivorous browsers, hence the alfalfa
pellets. She stays fat and healthy, even thru mating season which starts
this month. She's been strutting and drumming now for the past few days.

Pauli:

<http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet/Pets#5386563742343018210>

Or:

<http://tinyurl.com/yaa6hnt>
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
--Steve Rothstein


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brooklyn1 28-09-2009 06:34 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:03:38 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> I'm not into moussaka if it's made with lamb... baaaaad... I hate
>> lamb. During WWII when food was rationed lamb was most plentiful (the
>> military didn't serve lamb), as a kid I ate so much lamb that I can no
>> longer tolerate that stench... I don't like fehta cheese either... and
>> I'll drink anything, I like ouzo but retsina is something should be
>> sold at the paint store.
>>
>> Dinner fixings... I have a hunk of roast pork loin from the weekend,
>> not sure how I'll prepare it, could even be sandwiches... does Fancy
>> Feast count as fancy schmancy ingredients, got cases of that.
>> http://i35.tinypic.com/316b4fq.jpg

>
>I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>


I make Virginia Spam.

>Isis prefers the Whiskas brand pouches to Fancy Feast, but she gets
>both. I just alternate them. I'm trying to get some weight back on her
>(and it's working). The other cats get either Nine Lives or Friskies.
>
>They have kibbles available 24/7 and I vary the brands regularly to keep
>them interested. Purina Cat chows (different flavors), Friskies, Whiskas
>and Meow Mix.
>
>They really like Meow Mix. :-)
>
>The one thing I will NOT buy is generic cat (or dog) food!
>
>Even my Emu gets Purina. A 50/50 mix of rabbit pellets and poultry feed.
>Emus need extra fiber as they are omnivorous browsers, hence the alfalfa
>pellets. She stays fat and healthy, even thru mating season which starts
>this month. She's been strutting and drumming now for the past few days.
>
>Pauli:
>
><http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet/Pets#5386563742343018210>
>
>Or:
>
><http://tinyurl.com/yaa6hnt>


Maybe you can hurry things along by installing a red light over her
door! LOL

Omelet[_7_] 28-09-2009 07:28 PM

Organic or not?
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> >I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>

>
> I make Virginia Spam.


And that is?

Dad likes Turkey Spam. I'm considering smoking some of it just for
grins next time I run the smoker.

The only real issue I have with Spam is that it's so damned SALTY!

> >Even my Emu gets Purina. A 50/50 mix of rabbit pellets and poultry feed.
> >Emus need extra fiber as they are omnivorous browsers, hence the alfalfa
> >pellets. She stays fat and healthy, even thru mating season which starts
> >this month. She's been strutting and drumming now for the past few days.
> >
> >Pauli:
> >
> ><http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet/Pets#5386563742343018210>
> >
> >Or:
> >
> ><http://tinyurl.com/yaa6hnt>

>
> Maybe you can hurry things along by installing a red light over her
> door! LOL


<snork> No male emus in my neighborhood...
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brooklyn1 28-09-2009 08:47 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:28:15 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> >I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>

>>
>> I make Virginia Spam.

>
>And that is?


Stuck with cloves, drizzled with pineapple juice, and nuked.

>Dad likes Turkey Spam. I'm considering smoking some of it just for
>grins next time I run the smoker.


They already make smoked Spam.

>The only real issue I have with Spam is that it's so damned SALTY!


They do make a lower salt version... but I don't see where Spam is
higher in salt than any other cold cuts, or even bacon.

Omelet[_7_] 28-09-2009 08:57 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:28:15 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > brooklyn1 > wrote:
> >
> >> >I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>
> >>
> >> I make Virginia Spam.

> >
> >And that is?

>
> Stuck with cloves, drizzled with pineapple juice, and nuked.


Ok, that actually sounds creative and interesting!
Served like a ham. I wonder if you can form several "loaves" of spam
together to make a bigger "Spam Ham", then do that with it and pineapple
rings and a pineapple mustard glaze?

Remember that "M.A.S.H. episode where they make a Spam Lamb? <g> Radar
could not bear to see the live lamb killed, so he sent it home to his
parents farm.

>
> >Dad likes Turkey Spam. I'm considering smoking some of it just for
> >grins next time I run the smoker.

>
> They already make smoked Spam.


So? It's not going to be the same as smoking it "fresh".

>
> >The only real issue I have with Spam is that it's so damned SALTY!

>
> They do make a lower salt version... but I don't see where Spam is
> higher in salt than any other cold cuts, or even bacon.


Neither of which is served often here for that very reason. <g> Once in
awhile, I want bacon but it's most often served as part of a recipe as
that dilutes the salt a bit.

Dad makes Turkey Spam Omelets with cheese.
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brooklyn1 28-09-2009 09:20 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:57:18 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:28:15 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > brooklyn1 > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >I dare you to make some SPAM sushi. <g>
>> >>
>> >> I make Virginia Spam.
>> >
>> >And that is?

>>
>> Stuck with cloves, drizzled with pineapple juice, and nuked.

>
>Ok, that actually sounds creative and interesting!
>Served like a ham. I wonder if you can form several "loaves" of spam
>together to make a bigger "Spam Ham", then do that with it and pineapple
>rings and a pineapple mustard glaze?


I suppose one can. But I find one 12 oz can a perfect amount for
me... if I wanted a larger virginia ham I'd simply use a larger canned
ham.

>Remember that "M.A.S.H. episode where they make a Spam Lamb? <g> Radar
>could not bear to see the live lamb killed, so he sent it home to his
>parents farm.
>
>>
>> >Dad likes Turkey Spam. I'm considering smoking some of it just for
>> >grins next time I run the smoker.

>>
>> They already make smoked Spam.

>
>So? It's not going to be the same as smoking it "fresh".


Not sure what you mean by smoking it fresh, but all smoked meas are
uniquely different.

>> >The only real issue I have with Spam is that it's so damned SALTY!

>>
>> They do make a lower salt version... but I don't see where Spam is
>> higher in salt than any other cold cuts, or even bacon.

>
>Neither of which is served often here for that very reason. <g> Once in
>awhile, I want bacon but it's most often served as part of a recipe as
>that dilutes the salt a bit.



That's like adding twice the water to ramen to dilute the salt, but
then if you consume it all you still consumed all the salt.

>Dad makes Turkey Spam Omelets with cheese.


Cheese contains more salt than Spam.

I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.

zxcvbob 28-09-2009 09:27 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
brooklyn1 wrote:

> I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.


Me too. Fried Spam goes better with pancakes than even bacon (heresy, I
know.)

Bob

blake murphy[_2_] 28-09-2009 09:30 PM

Organic or not?
 
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:23:05 -0700, koko wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:46:24 -0400, The Cook >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:23:46 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:
>>
>>>Heya folks,
>>>
>>>I just found out, via various food blogs, that last week was Hunger
>>>Challenge week. Whereby folks would live on a food stamp budget, of
>>>$4/day. Which equals out to $28/week.

> snippage
>
>>I can remember a friend whose husband gave her the grocery money each
>>week. It seemed that she could never stock up on sale items. If I
>>were on that kind of leash I would try to show Scrooge how much better
>>I could do If I had at least one month's money at a time.

>
> If I were on that kind of a leash, I would show Scrooge how much
> better I could do without him.
> As a matter of fact at one time I was, and did.
>
> koko


where did they find his battered corpse?

your pal,
blake

Dymphna[_29_] 28-09-2009 11:05 PM

Organic or not?
 

I prefer organic meats. Most of the over the counter meats are not good
for you, as they contain hormones and antibiotics. My grandfather on my
mother's side was a rancher. He died in 1974 and refused to use the
hormones, as he knew even at that time that they hurt little girls. They
actually make them develop earlier. And IMHO - I think it is why so many
men are now on Viagra.


--
Dymphna
Message origin: www.TRAVEL.com


brooklyn1 28-09-2009 11:13 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:27:23 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.

>
>Me too. Fried Spam goes better with pancakes than even bacon (heresy, I
>know.)
>
>

Absolutely. And fried kosher salami with eggs is better yet. I
rarely buy bacon, it has to be nearly ten years since the last time I
bought a package of bacon.

I like a Spam Western too, and Spam hash is definitely better than
canned corned beef hash.

brooklyn1 28-09-2009 11:18 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:27:23 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.

>
>Me too. Fried Spam goes better with pancakes than even bacon (heresy, I
>know.)
>
>

Oh yes, pour the pancake batter right over slices of fried Spam.

cshenk 29-09-2009 12:54 AM

Organic or not?
 
"brooklyn1" wrote

> Fancy schmancy is the easiest kind of cooking, when you never have to
> show anyone.
>
> Tonight's dinner was fried kielbasa with beans (Hillshire Farms and
> generic canned red beans in chili sauce), anyone wants I can post a
> pic of the fancy schmancy ingredients... didn't really think so.


Grin, I post a pretty consistant view of our diet. It's based on several
medical dietary restrictions. This weekend was fat-heavy so now we are fat
low to balance it.

Dinner was simple:

Steamed veggies, 4 types
Rice (made the nicer india basmati)
Dashi braised tilapia (6 TB dashi, 14 oz tilapia 'steaks', gentle hand of
calamansi powder and 1 minced garlic clove).
4 mandarin oranges- dessert
Small serving of kimchee (daikon and bok choy, made 2 weeks ago ans fridged,
last of it, gotta make more)

Your meal actually doesnt sound bad at all. Add some green and yellow
veggies and we'd be happy!





brooklyn1 29-09-2009 01:12 AM

Organic or not?
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:54:57 -0400, "cshenk" > wrote:

>"brooklyn1" wrote
>
>> Fancy schmancy is the easiest kind of cooking, when you never have to
>> show anyone.
>>
>> Tonight's dinner was fried kielbasa with beans (Hillshire Farms and
>> generic canned red beans in chili sauce), anyone wants I can post a
>> pic of the fancy schmancy ingredients... didn't really think so.

>
>Grin, I post a pretty consistant view of our diet. It's based on several
>medical dietary restrictions. This weekend was fat-heavy so now we are fat
>low to balance it.
>
>Dinner was simple:
>
>Steamed veggies, 4 types
>Rice (made the nicer india basmati)
>Dashi braised tilapia (6 TB dashi, 14 oz tilapia 'steaks', gentle hand of
>calamansi powder and 1 minced garlic clove).
>4 mandarin oranges- dessert
>Small serving of kimchee (daikon and bok choy, made 2 weeks ago ans fridged,
>last of it, gotta make more)
>
>Your meal actually doesnt sound bad at all. Add some green and yellow
>veggies and we'd be happy!
>
>

This time of year I like stewed fruit (compote).
The best: http://altapacific.com/secure/sunmai...sp?dept%5Fid=1

cshenk 29-09-2009 01:22 AM

Organic or not?
 
"Andy" wrote
> cshenk said...


>> Meantime, dinner was great! We couldnt eat it all, but that is normal.
>> It's a planned leftover for my work lunch. Should have made more udon
>> duck soup though as there isnt enough left to fill my small thermos. Ah
>> well, Hon-dashi if I wish (soup).


> Glad to hear it.


> Sorry to hear about the soup shortage. Probably would've happened to me
> too! :(


Hehehe happens! I stole most of the last of the daikon kimchee for work and
the last was had tonight. Once i got to work, my co-workers wanted to try
that out and ate most of it ;-)

That's ok, I had lots of other stuff to make up the gap.


Omelet[_7_] 29-09-2009 08:06 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> >> >Dad likes Turkey Spam. I'm considering smoking some of it just for
> >> >grins next time I run the smoker.
> >>
> >> They already make smoked Spam.

> >
> >So? It's not going to be the same as smoking it "fresh".

>
> Not sure what you mean by smoking it fresh, but all smoked meats are
> uniquely different.


Yes, but I'm betting that "smoked spam" is smoked by adding liquid
smoke. You use a gas grill, so you might not understand. ;-)

>
> >> >The only real issue I have with Spam is that it's so damned SALTY!
> >>
> >> They do make a lower salt version... but I don't see where Spam is
> >> higher in salt than any other cold cuts, or even bacon.

> >
> >Neither of which is served often here for that very reason. <g> Once in
> >awhile, I want bacon but it's most often served as part of a recipe as
> >that dilutes the salt a bit.

>
>
> That's like adding twice the water to ramen to dilute the salt, but
> then if you consume it all you still consumed all the salt.


That's not the issue. The issue is TASTE.
If I am worried about the salt, I don't serve it at all. I don't like
the flavor of overly salted food. Period.

>
> >Dad makes Turkey Spam Omelets with cheese.

>
> Cheese contains more salt than Spam.


He makes them. I don't. And I don't eat his cooking accordingly.

>
> I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.


To each his own. ;-d

I like Underwood canned meats, but I spread them out and do not eat them
straight out of the can!
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Omelet[_7_] 29-09-2009 08:07 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
In article >,
zxcvbob > wrote:

> brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.

>
> Me too. Fried Spam goes better with pancakes than even bacon (heresy, I
> know.)
>
> Bob


Don't forget the maple syrup!
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Omelet[_7_] 29-09-2009 08:07 PM

Cooking with Spam (was Organic or not?)
 
In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:27:23 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
> >brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> I've tried the various versions but I only like the Original Spam.

> >
> >Me too. Fried Spam goes better with pancakes than even bacon (heresy, I
> >know.)
> >
> >

> Absolutely. And fried kosher salami with eggs is better yet. I
> rarely buy bacon, it has to be nearly ten years since the last time I
> bought a package of bacon.
>
> I like a Spam Western too, and Spam hash is definitely better than
> canned corned beef hash.


Is it really? I bought some canned corned beef to make some hash.
I've not tried it with Spam.

What do you think of Treet?
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