This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
have to say.

http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415

or

http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp

Thanks,

Lou

Lou Decruss > wrote in message
...
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415

Hm. A perfect example of NIMBY in action.

I can think of several national chains where the execs are true criminals
and should be brought up on charges and persecuted to the full extent of the
law. Those chains serve nothing but slop and glop, are predatory, etc...

As far as your question to the topic at hand, I'd give it [Felony Franks] a
try or two. It couldn't be any worse than Der Weinerschnitzhel or the like.

The Ranger

On Apr 25, 10:23*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som...
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

HEARD on NPR:
There's another enterprise in Chicago that helps ex-cons by teaching
them bee-keeping. They demo and sell the products (honey, honeycomb,
bees wax skin stuff etc) in supermarkets (including Whole Foods).
They made no bones about exactly what the business was and the
customers sounded very happy. Wish I could remember the name . . .
the hives are placed on vacant lots near parks and the bees pollenate
whatever's around.
Lynn in Fargo

Lou Decruss wrote:
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

A local company that specialized in industrial insulation work used to
hire ex cons to work for them. Got them from a half way house locally
and many, but not all, worked out just fine. Over the years a number of
them moved into supervision and management. Homeland Security decided
that ex-cons, particularly those convicted of felonies were not reliable
enough to allow in ports, chemical plants, and refineries so these guy
could no longer get clearances to work in those places. The company had
no choice but to let them go.
I was personally aware of this as I was that company's safety consultant
for a number of years and worked with the people that were "unreliable"
according to Homeland Security. They were mostly just ordinary folks
that got into trouble and then were reformed.

Yet another example of tax dollars misspent.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

I don't think it would bother me if the food was good and it was well run.
I bet we know more felons than we think. There are many that have gone
straight and made respectable lives for themselves. They often wear a suit
and tie so you don't recognize them.

A youthful lapse of judgment can be correct. I'm not talking about serial
rapists that should never be set free.

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

Gotta give the guy credit for trying to help a particular segment of the
community. I can see the pros & cons (no pun intended) for such a
venture. It would be interesting to see its menu

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Apr 25, 8:23*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som...
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

I'll take some kraut on that misdewiener please!

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

Tough call. I admire the guy's mission to employ unemployed felons
who've done the crime and done the time and I think the name and
associated slogans are kind of dippy -- and just what's needed to attract
attention if not customers. :-\
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - good news 4-6-2009
"What you say about someone else says more
about you than it does about the other person."

On Apr 25, 11:23*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som...
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

Slightly more palatable than "BadAss Coffee" which moved into our
neighborhood, and then crashed.

That particular location has not done well since DunkinDonuts moved
out of it. Probably because none of the shops has thought to cater to
the drunks coming out the the club next door. What's the point of
having food and drink shops closing at 9, when the club doesn't get
going until 10 and lets out around 2?

maxine in ri

On Apr 25, 9:17*am, maxine > wrote:
> On Apr 25, 11:23*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> > This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
> > got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> > have to say.
>
> >http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som...
>
> > or
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Lou
>
> Slightly more palatable than "BadAss Coffee" which moved into our
> neighborhood, and then crashed.
>
> That particular location has not done well since DunkinDonuts moved
> out of it. *Probably because none of the shops has thought to cater to
> the drunks coming out the the club next door. *What's the point of
> having food and drink shops closing at 9, when the club doesn't get
> going until 10 and lets out around 2?
>
> maxine in ri

I love Bad Ass coffee!!!

In article >,
says...
>
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

I'd have no problem with this in my area. I applaud his putting the
recently released to work. That's the first step in re-entering society.

Here is another thing to chew on. A very high percentage of those in
prison are there because of drug posession.

I find our drug enforcement laws to be criminal. They do nothing to
staunch the flow of drugs into the U.S., and only server to fatten the
pockets of those ownning private prisons.

In article >,
says...
>
> Lou Decruss wrote:
> > This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> > got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> > have to say.
> >
> > http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lou
>
> A local company that specialized in industrial insulation work used to
> hire ex cons to work for them. Got them from a half way house locally
> and many, but not all, worked out just fine. Over the years a number of
> them moved into supervision and management. Homeland Security decided
> that ex-cons, particularly those convicted of felonies were not reliable
> enough to allow in ports, chemical plants, and refineries so these guy
> could no longer get clearances to work in those places. The company had
> no choice but to let them go.
> I was personally aware of this as I was that company's safety consultant
> for a number of years and worked with the people that were "unreliable"
> according to Homeland Security. They were mostly just ordinary folks
> that got into trouble and then were reformed.
>
> Yet another example of tax dollars misspent.

Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
financing an education through the student loan program.

We need serious Homeland Security reform.

On Apr 25, 1:56*pm, T > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lou Decruss wrote:
> > > This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
> > > got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> > > have to say.
>
> > >http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som....
>
> > > or
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Lou
>
> > A local company that specialized in industrial insulation work used to
> > hire ex cons to work for them. Got them from a half way house locally
> > and many, but not all, worked out just fine. Over the years a number of
> > them moved into supervision and management. Homeland Security decided
> > that ex-cons, particularly those convicted of felonies were not reliable
> > enough to allow in ports, chemical plants, and refineries so these guy
> > could no longer get clearances to work in those places. The company had
> > no choice but to let them go.
> > I was personally aware of this as I was that company's safety consultant
> > for a number of years and worked with the people that were "unreliable"
> > according to Homeland Security. They were mostly just ordinary folks
> > that got into trouble and then were reformed.
>
> > Yet another example of tax dollars misspent.
>
> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
> financing an education through the student loan program.
>
> We need serious Homeland Security reform.

When you support laws criminalizing drugs, you support the terrorists.

--Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos

"The 1960's called. They want their recipe back."
--Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009

T wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>>> have to say.
>>>
>>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Lou
>> A local company that specialized in industrial insulation work used to
>> hire ex cons to work for them. Got them from a half way house locally
>> and many, but not all, worked out just fine. Over the years a number of
>> them moved into supervision and management. Homeland Security decided
>> that ex-cons, particularly those convicted of felonies were not reliable
>> enough to allow in ports, chemical plants, and refineries so these guy
>> could no longer get clearances to work in those places. The company had
>> no choice but to let them go.
>> I was personally aware of this as I was that company's safety consultant
>> for a number of years and worked with the people that were "unreliable"
>> according to Homeland Security. They were mostly just ordinary folks
>> that got into trouble and then were reformed.
>>
>> Yet another example of tax dollars misspent.
>
> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
> financing an education through the student loan program.
>
> We need serious Homeland Security reform.
>

And a new cabinet member to run it, the current one thinks the Saudi
terrorists that crashed planes into the Twin Towers came into our
country via Canada. Bet that makes the Canadians happy.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

My only trepidation would be using a credit card or an ATM card.

Dimitri

T > wrote:

> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
> financing an education through the student loan program.
>
> We need serious Homeland Security reform.

And public housing, and food stamps, and a bunch of other "benefits"
meant for people down on their luck.

-sw

T > wrote:

> I find our drug enforcement laws to be criminal. They do nothing to
> staunch the flow of drugs into the U.S., and only server to fatten the
> pockets of those ownning private prisons.

What - you don't approve of Dell using prison labor to assemble
motherboards a good use of taxpayer money?

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> T > wrote:
>
>> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
>> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
>> financing an education through the student loan program.
>>
>> We need serious Homeland Security reform.
>
> And public housing, and food stamps, and a bunch of other "benefits"
> meant for people down on their luck.
>
> -sw

"Down on their luck", sure. Habitual lazy-asses, nope.

-dk

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:26:48 -0400, D K wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> T > wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
>>> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
>>> financing an education through the student loan program.
>>>
>>> We need serious Homeland Security reform.
>>
>> And public housing, and food stamps, and a bunch of other "benefits"
>> meant for people down on their luck.
>>
>> -sw
>
> "Down on their luck", sure. Habitual lazy-asses, nope.
>
> -dk

how do you propose to tell the difference?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:23:01 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou

more power to 'em, i say. i would assume he's not employing mass
murderers, rapists and the like.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:45:43 -0700, "The Ranger"
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss > wrote in message
.. .
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
>Hm. A perfect example of NIMBY in action.

Yep. Just like nuk plants. Nobody wants them around but 50% of my
state's electricity comes from them.

>I can think of several national chains where the execs are true criminals
>and should be brought up on charges and persecuted to the full extent of the
>law. Those chains serve nothing but slop and glop, are predatory, etc...

I can't help but think of walmart. But that's for another thread. (or
not)

>As far as your question to the topic at hand, I'd give it [Felony Franks] a
>try or two. It couldn't be any worse than Der Weinerschnitzhel or the like.

I'd have no problem trying them. We don't have a shortage of hot dog
joints in Chicago so they'll have to be good to make it. They're not
in my area so it's not a backyard issue but I'm leaning towards the
negative of making light of the criminal aspect.

Thanks for the reply

Lou

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:55:27 -0700 (PDT), Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig
> wrote:

>On Apr 25, 10:23*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. *I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...name-riles-som...
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>HEARD on NPR:
>There's another enterprise in Chicago that helps ex-cons by teaching
>them bee-keeping. They demo and sell the products (honey, honeycomb,
>bees wax skin stuff etc) in supermarkets (including Whole Foods).
>They made no bones about exactly what the business was and the
>customers sounded very happy. Wish I could remember the name . . .
>the hives are placed on vacant lots near parks and the bees pollenate
>whatever's around.

I've not heard of that but it sure sounds great with the bee problem
we have going on.

There's another guy who restores old cars with kids off the street.
He seems to be a magnet to gangbangers and even if he only helps a few
it's a cool thing.

Lou

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:02:26 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>A local company that specialized in industrial insulation work used to
>hire ex cons to work for them. Got them from a half way house locally
>and many, but not all, worked out just fine. Over the years a number of
>them moved into supervision and management. Homeland Security decided
>that ex-cons, particularly those convicted of felonies were not reliable
>enough to allow in ports, chemical plants, and refineries so these guy
>could no longer get clearances to work in those places. The company had
>no choice but to let them go.
>I was personally aware of this as I was that company's safety consultant
>for a number of years and worked with the people that were "unreliable"
>according to Homeland Security. They were mostly just ordinary folks
>that got into trouble and then were reformed.
>
>Yet another example of tax dollars misspent.

Uggg.. I live in Chicago so you don't have to tell me about misspent
tax dollars.

I think the ex-cons will probably do just fine. I was involved with a
rather large asbestos abatement project 15 years ago. The workers
were almost all ex-cons including the foremen. Most couldn't carry on
much of a conversation but they worked their asses of and made great
money. The building we were doing was occupied and they did sections
at a time. In 10 years I think we only had one or two complaints
because one of them had cat-called one of the office women in the
parking lot. That's actually a far better stat than what usually
occurs with typical construction workers.

I hope the hot dog place does well but I'm not sure about the name and
the menu.

Lou

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:26:48 -0400, D K wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> T > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed, the whole War on Drugs is assinine. The other fun fact about the
>>>> laws behind it are that if you are convicted you loose all access to
>>>> financing an education through the student loan program.
>>>>
>>>> We need serious Homeland Security reform.
>>> And public housing, and food stamps, and a bunch of other "benefits"
>>> meant for people down on their luck.
>>>
>>> -sw
>> "Down on their luck", sure. Habitual lazy-asses, nope.
>>
>> -dk
>
> how do you propose to tell the difference?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Limited time frame for benefits and no "bonuses" for new kids.

There should also be some accountability as their is with unemployment -
they should be actively seeking a job and be able to document that.

-dk

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:04:11 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>I don't think it would bother me if the food was good and it was well run.
>I bet we know more felons than we think.

LOL... yep. I know a few. I worked with a guy who was nice as you
could imagine. He later did time for blowing up someones car. I was
told it was a union thing but nobody talked much about it.

>.There are many that have gone
>straight and made respectable lives for themselves. They often wear a suit
>and tie so you don't recognize them.

Sounds like politicians.

>A youthful lapse of judgment can be correct. I'm not talking about serial
>rapists that should never be set free.

White collar crimes don't happen in the hood this place is going. No
money for it to happen.

Lou

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:05:17 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>Gotta give the guy credit for trying to help a particular segment of the
>community. I can see the pros & cons (no pun intended) for such a
>venture. It would be interesting to see its menu

I'll try to get a menu when it opens.

Lou

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:05:17 -0500, Sky >
> wrote:
>
> >Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>
> >> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> >> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> >> have to say.
> >>
> >> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> >Gotta give the guy credit for trying to help a particular segment of the
> >community. I can see the pros & cons (no pun intended) for such a
> >venture. It would be interesting to see its menu
>
> I'll try to get a menu when it opens.
>
> Lou

Thanks I look forward to seeing the menu, and I always enjoy reading
menus even if I'm unable to dine there.

Sky, menu collector!

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:12:51 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>Tough call.

Ain't that the truth!

>I admire the guy's mission to employ unemployed felons
>who've done the crime and done the time and I think the name and
>associated slogans are kind of dippy -- and just what's needed to attract
>attention if not customers. :-\

Hopefully it will attract customers and not scum to lure the cons back
to the street. I don't know the mens stats but women felons have a
50% chance of landing back in the slammer within 3 years in this
state. It's not in my neighborhood but I'd like to go there when it
opens. I'll keep track of the news when it does as it seems to be
getting a lot of air time here. I might need a few bottles of courage
first as I'm the wrong color for that area.

Lou

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:47 -0400, T >
wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>I'd have no problem with this in my area. I applaud his putting the
>recently released to work. That's the first step in re-entering society.

But do you think the name and babble are necessary? Or does that
benefit the cons or the restaurant?
>
>Here is another thing to chew on. A very high percentage of those in
>prison are there because of drug posession.

That's a bulletin?
>
>I find our drug enforcement laws to be criminal.

It's the law so it's not criminal. Pretty simple.

>They do nothing to
>staunch the flow of drugs into the U.S., and only server to fatten the
>pockets of those ownning private prisons.

The only reason pot isn't legal is the government hasn't been able to
figure out how to tax it effectively. Personally I don't see why
someone shouldn't be able to grow plants in their backyard just like
we can make wine or brew beer. But if you're referring to things like
coke or heroin then I think you're over the line.

Lou

On 25 Apr 2009 23:27:43 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss >
: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...me-riles-some/
>> 4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>
>Well *I* love it! I'm surprised it hasn't come up before. I think it would
>be the perfect thing to open here in my white, tight assed neighborhood.

I wasn't 100% sure of the area so I google earthed it. It's certainly
not like your neighborhood. <g>

Lou

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:33:37 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:23:01 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>> have to say.
>>
>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>
>more power to 'em, i say. i would assume he's not employing mass
>murderers, rapists and the like.

No details on the crime types. If there's a school nearby there might
be a problem with sex offenders.

Lou

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:54:00 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> I think the ex-cons will probably do just fine. I was involved with a
> rather large asbestos abatement project 15 years ago. The workers
> were almost all ex-cons including the foremen. Most couldn't carry on
> much of a conversation but they worked their asses of and made great
> money. The building we were doing was occupied and they did sections
> at a time. In 10 years I think we only had one or two complaints
> because one of them had cat-called one of the office women in the
> parking lot. That's actually a far better stat than what usually
> occurs with typical construction workers.
>
> I hope the hot dog place does well but I'm not sure about the name and
> the menu.
>
> Lou

i could be wrong, but it's never struck me that folks in chicago are
particularly squeamish about felons, ex- or otherwise.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:31:51 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:12:51 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>
>>> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
>>> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
>>> have to say.
>>>
>>> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>Tough call.
>
> Ain't that the truth!
>
>>I admire the guy's mission to employ unemployed felons
>>who've done the crime and done the time and I think the name and
>>associated slogans are kind of dippy -- and just what's needed to attract
>>attention if not customers. :-\
>
> Hopefully it will attract customers and not scum to lure the cons back
> to the street. I don't know the mens stats but women felons have a
> 50% chance of landing back in the slammer within 3 years in this
> state. It's not in my neighborhood but I'd like to go there when it
> opens. I'll keep track of the news when it does as it seems to be
> getting a lot of air time here. I might need a few bottles of courage
> first as I'm the wrong color for that area.
>
> Lou

act like you know what you're doing and you'll have no problems.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:09:40 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:54:00 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>> I think the ex-cons will probably do just fine. I was involved with a
>> rather large asbestos abatement project 15 years ago. The workers
>> were almost all ex-cons including the foremen. Most couldn't carry on
>> much of a conversation but they worked their asses of and made great
>> money. The building we were doing was occupied and they did sections
>> at a time. In 10 years I think we only had one or two complaints
>> because one of them had cat-called one of the office women in the
>> parking lot. That's actually a far better stat than what usually
>> occurs with typical construction workers.
>>
>> I hope the hot dog place does well but I'm not sure about the name and
>> the menu.
>>
>> Lou
>
>i could be wrong, but it's never struck me that folks in chicago are
>particularly squeamish about felons, ex- or otherwise.

<laugh> Are you saying that because our governors use prison as a
retirement home? Maybe these guys can work Blago into the menu.

Lou

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:12:46 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:31:51 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

>> Hopefully it will attract customers and not scum to lure the cons back
>> to the street. I don't know the mens stats but women felons have a
>> 50% chance of landing back in the slammer within 3 years in this
>> state. It's not in my neighborhood but I'd like to go there when it
>> opens. I'll keep track of the news when it does as it seems to be
>> getting a lot of air time here. I might need a few bottles of courage
>> first as I'm the wrong color for that area.
>>
>> Lou
>
>act like you know what you're doing and you'll have no problems.

I did a google earth on the intersection and it looks ok.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> This has been getting lots of air time in Chicago this morning. I've
> got mixed feelings but it's on topic and I'd like to hear what others
> have to say.
>
> http://www.wbbm780.com/Hot-dog-stand...s-some/4265415
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d8vasp

LOL, Lou! The town in which I work (Davis, California - aka The People's
Republic of Davis which wants to be Berkeley when it grows up) has a
fabulous burger joint which used to be called "Murder Burger" - "burgers so
good, they're to die for" is the slogan. Then came along the PC hullaballoo
and they changed their name - to REDRUM burger.

<sigh>

They still make great burgers though. In fact, it's lunchtime....

TammyM

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:54:00 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
> >
> > I think the ex-cons will probably do just fine. I was involved with a
> > rather large asbestos abatement project 15 years ago. The workers
> > were almost all ex-cons including the foremen. Most couldn't carry on
> > much of a conversation but they worked their asses of and made great
> > money. The building we were doing was occupied and they did sections
> > at a time. In 10 years I think we only had one or two complaints
> > because one of them had cat-called one of the office women in the
> > parking lot. That's actually a far better stat than what usually
> > occurs with typical construction workers.
> >
> > I hope the hot dog place does well but I'm not sure about the name and
> > the menu.
> >
> > Lou
>
> i could be wrong, but it's never struck me that folks in chicago are
> particularly squeamish about felons, ex- or otherwise.


Our current gang of elected and appointed felons would make Al Capone go
positively ga - ga ...


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:22:34 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:


>> i could be wrong, but it's never struck me that folks in chicago are
>> particularly squeamish about felons, ex- or otherwise.
>
>
>Our current gang of elected and appointed felons would make Al Capone go
>positively ga - ga ...

Are you tawking Chicago or Warshintun?

Seems to be the same shit to me.

Lou

D K > wrote:

> Limited time frame for benefits and no "bonuses" for new kids.
>
> There should also be some accountability as their is with unemployment -
> they should be actively seeking a job and be able to document that.

Women with children never have to produce proof of anything except
fertility.


-sw

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:31:14 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:09:40 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:54:00 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the ex-cons will probably do just fine. I was involved with a
>>> rather large asbestos abatement project 15 years ago. The workers
>>> were almost all ex-cons including the foremen. Most couldn't carry on
>>> much of a conversation but they worked their asses of and made great
>>> money. The building we were doing was occupied and they did sections
>>> at a time. In 10 years I think we only had one or two complaints
>>> because one of them had cat-called one of the office women in the
>>> parking lot. That's actually a far better stat than what usually
>>> occurs with typical construction workers.
>>>
>>> I hope the hot dog place does well but I'm not sure about the name and
>>> the menu.
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>i could be wrong, but it's never struck me that folks in chicago are
>>particularly squeamish about felons, ex- or otherwise.
>
> <laugh> Are you saying that because our governors use prison as a
> retirement home? Maybe these guys can work Blago into the menu.
>
> Lou

at least none of them actually ran the state *from* jail. at least as far
as i know.

your pal,
blake