On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:37:35 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>RECALL: Pistachios
>
>Stop eating them and anything including them, like trail mixes.
>
>More salmonella found.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/cvr5vk
>
We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
going to beef up the FDA?
http://www.ktvu.com/video/19050287/index.html Use IE and wait a
couple of seconds for the video to appear - it looks like you're been
hijacked at first.



--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:37:35 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>>RECALL: Pistachios
>>
>>Stop eating them and anything including them, like trail mixes.
>>
>>More salmonella found.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/cvr5vk
>>
> We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
> going to beef up the FDA?

USDA I do believe. And the answer is probably never. They have almost
completely destroyed that agency. The wonders of deregulation are now at
work. You can expect a lot more of this to come. Yes, eating nuts in this
country is now a lethal proposition. And if you want to really worry, the
laws regarding mad cow disease are also mostly voluntary.

The funny thing is that compliance with the now voluntary guidelines is so
much cheaper than cleaning up the mess and the subsequent lawsuits from the
families of the dead. But given the option, hey go for the risk every time
And if it kills people, hey so what.

It's the harbinger of things to come. Have a nice day.

Paul

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:

>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>going to beef up the FDA?

A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"

I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
We've come to expect that of third world countries....

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote:

>I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
>with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
>Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
>We've come to expect that of third world countries....

Programs like the FDA and OSHA definitely don't have enough
inspectors, but I think it has to do with funding and the fact that
many voters seem to think business will self-police themselves with
the greater good in mind.

Ha ha ha!

I hear a representative of that thinking, Joe the Plumber, wants to
abolish the IRS.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>>going to beef up the FDA?
>
> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
>
> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
> We've come to expect that of third world countries....

thank the republican regime of the last eight years. defund the government
and then claim 'government is the problem.' the perfect appeal to
knuckleheads like yourself.

blake

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:49:53 -0700, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:37:35 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>
>>>RECALL: Pistachios
>>>
>>>Stop eating them and anything including them, like trail mixes.
>>>
>>>More salmonella found.
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/cvr5vk
>>>
>> We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>> going to beef up the FDA?
>
> USDA I do believe. And the answer is probably never. They have almost
> completely destroyed that agency. The wonders of deregulation are now at
> work. You can expect a lot more of this to come.

don't forget that there's a new sheriff in town.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:51:44 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, "<RJ>" > wrote:
>
>>I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
>>with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
>>Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
>>We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>
> Programs like the FDA and OSHA definitely don't have enough
> inspectors, but I think it has to do with funding and the fact that
> many voters seem to think business will self-police themselves with
> the greater good in mind.
>
> Ha ha ha!
>
> I hear a representative of that thinking, Joe the Plumber, wants to
> abolish the IRS.

you mean not-joe the not-plumber?

why are we still seeing him and his good buddy mccain on the t.v.?

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
> >>going to beef up the FDA?
> >
> > A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
> > Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
> >
> > I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
> > with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
> > Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
> > We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>
> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.


"regime", blake...???


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>>>>going to beef up the FDA?
>>>
>>> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
>>> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
>>>
>>> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
>>> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
>>> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
>>> We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>>
>> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.
>
> "regime", blake...???

what would you call it? purging all non-republicans from the justice
department, censoring any government report that makes the administration
look bad (or just stop issuing reports), political hacks overriding career
civil servants who actually know something about their agency's mission,
operating an employment bureau for god-mad regency 'university' grads?

at least i didn't call them an organized crime syndicate.

blake

On Apr 4, 4:23*pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > > blake murphy wrote:
>
> > >> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> > >>>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. *When are they
> > >>>>going to beef up the FDA?
>
> > >>> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
> > >>> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
>
> > >>> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
> > >>> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
> > >>> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
> > >>> We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>
> > >> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.
>
> > > "regime", blake...???
>
> > what would you call it? *purging all non-republicans from the justice
> > department, censoring any government report that makes the administration
> > look bad (or just stop issuing reports), political hacks overriding career
> > civil servants who actually know something about their agency's mission,
> > operating an employment bureau for god-mad regency 'university' grads?
>
> Bush was *elected*, blake...I know it ****es you off, but them's the facts.

He was re-elected in 2004. The Ohio election might not pass what any
civilized country would call free and fair, but that's an internal
Ohio issue. In 2000, the Supreme Court did what should have been done
by the Congress, and decided the election, albeit with the same
result. The Court should have sent the election to the House, where
the numbers favored Bush. Blake, who is no ally of mine here, was
correct in his critique of GWB's presidency.

Notable is Eric Holder's directive nullifying with prejudice the
conviction of Sen. Stevens. Good chance that he would have eventually
been found guilty, but that's not the standard of justice we hold
ourselves to in the USA. There was clearly prosecutory misconduct on
the part of the Justice Dept. and it sends a message to every
prosecutor that their job is to pursue justice, not conviction. While
you, Gregory, likely admire his voting record, and I despise it, I
think that in light of all that's happened, and Ted Stevens' long
service to Alaska, a bill should be introduced in his name that
Federerally criminalizes prosecutorial misconduct, and provides for
disbarment for those convicted. In addition, the bill should include
mandatory minimum prison sentences for such violation in capital
cases. Do you disagree?

Does anyone out there disagree with the above paragraph? If you do,
please reply.
>
> > at least i didn't call them an organized crime syndicate.
>
> Your "Bush Derangement Syndrome" is showing yet again, blake...you need to
> settle down a little bit. *There are better uses for your energy, being
> ****ed at perceived past political malfeasance will turn you bitter pretty
> quickly, it's no way to live.

Oh, Gregory, you are just as mean spirited at times as Blake, though I
have to admit seldom as much as me.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
> "The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
> people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

The underlying economic system that apportions what money is actually
one person's or another's shifts. Extreme Socialism shrinks the pie.
Extreme Capitalism gives nothing but crust to those at the bottom, and
leads back to a neo-Feudal economic system, as in robberbaronism. Ayn
Rand has been pretty well discredited, and her disciple, Alan
Greenspan, has at least partially repented. Whodathunkit?

--Bryan

blake murphy wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > blake murphy wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
> >>>>going to beef up the FDA?
> >>>
> >>> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
> >>> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
> >>>
> >>> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
> >>> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
> >>> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
> >>> We've come to expect that of third world countries....
> >>
> >> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.
> >
> > "regime", blake...???
>
> what would you call it? purging all non-republicans from the justice
> department, censoring any government report that makes the administration
> look bad (or just stop issuing reports), political hacks overriding career
> civil servants who actually know something about their agency's mission,
> operating an employment bureau for god-mad regency 'university' grads?
>


Bush was *elected*, blake...I know it ****es you off, but them's the facts.


> at least i didn't call them an organized crime syndicate.


Your "Bush Derangement Syndrome" is showing yet again, blake...you need to
settle down a little bit. There are better uses for your energy, being
****ed at perceived past political malfeasance will turn you bitter pretty
quickly, it's no way to live.


:-)


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:23:36 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>>>>>>going to beef up the FDA?
>>>>>
>>>>> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
>>>>> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
>>>>> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
>>>>> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
>>>>> We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>>>>
>>>> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.
>>>
>>> "regime", blake...???
>>
>> what would you call it? purging all non-republicans from the justice
>> department, censoring any government report that makes the administration
>> look bad (or just stop issuing reports), political hacks overriding career
>> civil servants who actually know something about their agency's mission,
>> operating an employment bureau for god-mad regency 'university' grads?
>>
>
> Bush was *elected*, blake...I know it ****es you off, but them's the facts.
>

the second time, yes. the first was a 'good this one time only' coupon
courtesy of the supreme court.

blake

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:23:36 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:23:05 -0700, <RJ> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:04:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We've got another scare here on the West Coast too. When are they
>>>>>>going to beef up the FDA?
>>>>>
>>>>> A recent news article mused that after the Wall St. meltdown,
>>>>> Americans are having "a crisis of confidence"
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the crisis comes from all these government agencies,
>>>>> with their layers and layers of bureacracy....
>>>>> Who take the tax money, then...DON'T DO THE JOB.
>>>>> We've come to expect that of third world countries....
>>>>
>>>> thank the republican regime of the last eight years.
>>>
>>> "regime", blake...???
>>
>> what would you call it? purging all non-republicans from the justice
>> department, censoring any government report that makes the administration
>> look bad (or just stop issuing reports), political hacks overriding career
>> civil servants who actually know something about their agency's mission,
>> operating an employment bureau for god-mad regency 'university' grads?
>>
>
> Bush was *elected*, blake...I know it ****es you off, but them's the facts.

i forgot to add, it doesn't matter if he was elected or not - his
administration was a complete fiasco, turning everything he touched into
shit.

blake