Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.

Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
have used in microwave.

I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
my hands.

TIA

On Thu 05 Feb 2009 09:54:35p, ms. tonya told us...

> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>
> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> have used in microwave.
>
> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> my hands.
>
> TIA
>
>

Fire King/Anchor Hocking

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ms. tonya wrote:
> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>
> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> have used in microwave.
>
> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> my hands.
>
> TIA
>


I am not sure if Corning ware originally made by Dow Chemical is still
about .

But we have heaps here going back ages and snipped at Auctions and
garage sales etc .
And apart from dropping it holds up very well .

Glass is not a very good conductor of heat (which suites some recipes)
The End product out of our old corning ware teh majority of time is
spot on

Being white (well ours is ) it looks a bit better when plonked on the
table also Just dont trip over anything from Kitchen to dining room
Has happened you see

(ms. tonya) wrote in news:485-498BC28B-1077@storefull-
3313.bay.webtv.net:

> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>
> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> have used in microwave.
>
> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> my hands.
>
> TIA
>
>


I've had clear pyrex dishes for donkey's ages and have never had a
problem, other than someone swiping one of my lids. Last time I used one
was about 2 weeks ago. They get used on a regular basis, as does my
Corningware dishes.

Naturally, if I take either out of the over, I place it on a wooden board
on the bench.

But, having said that, I've been buying some (enameled) cast iron Dutch
Ovens of late.

I've had the Pyrex for approx 31 years, and the Corningware for about 21
years.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Tell me what you eat and I'll tell you who you are.

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin

In article >,
(ms. tonya) wrote:

> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>
> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> have used in microwave.

Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or over direct
heat. See this:
<http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104
Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might have to look
into that.

Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram," and they
used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and skillets, IIRC.
http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996

> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic

?? How does diabetes enter in?

> and buying anything new with Pyrex name so wondering can some one
> recommend a brand of glass bakeware that I can have peace of mind
> about not shattering/exploding in my hands.

Anchor Hocking; Fire King. Probably no better or worse than Pyrex,
though. I'd buy any of them if the price was right.
I hope this helps.
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> (ms. tonya) wrote:

>Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or over direct
>heat. See this:
><http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104
>Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
>stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might have to look
>into that.
>
>Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram," and they
>used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and skillets, IIRC.
>http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996

IIRC, Pyrex owes its reputation for durability to its lower level of
expansion under heat. Old glass was so-called soda-lime glass,
and expanded easily under heat, which was self-destructive.
The addition of borosilicate salts to raw glass lowered the coef.
of expansion, which made the glass more resistant to thermal
shock. It still has limits. I think Fire-king and Pyrex are about
equivalent. Kimble glass calls their product Kimax.

Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at ungodly
high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is thermally VERY
stable and can take thermal shocks that would cause Pyrex to
shatter.

HTH

Alex, Chemiker

Chemiker wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:51:55 -0600:

>> In article >,
>> (ms. tonya) wrote:

>> Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or
>> over direct heat. See
>> this: <http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104 Hmmm, I DO
>> still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
>> stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might
>> have to look into that.
>>
>> Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram,"
>> and they used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and
>> skillets, IIRC. http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996

> IIRC, Pyrex owes its reputation for durability to its lower
> level of expansion under heat. Old glass was so-called
> soda-lime glass, and expanded easily under heat, which was
> self-destructive. The addition of borosilicate salts to raw
> glass lowered the coef. of expansion, which made the glass
> more resistant to thermal shock. It still has limits. I think
> Fire-king and Pyrex are about equivalent. Kimble glass calls
> their product Kimax.

> Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at
> ungodly high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is
> thermally VERY stable and can take thermal shocks that would
> cause Pyrex to shatter.

Corningware, or Pyroceram, is a partially crystallized glass and, as you
say, will take themal shock. It does not bounce any better than glass or
porcelain and can break up spectacularly!


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Feb 6, 9:51*am, Chemiker > wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>
> > wrote:
> >In article >,
> > (ms. tonya) wrote:
> >Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or over direct
> >heat. *See this:
> ><http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104
> >Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
> >stovetop. *I wonder why that was okay for that use. *Might have to look
> >into that.
>
> >Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram," *and they
> >used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and skillets, IIRC. *
> >http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996
>
> IIRC, Pyrex owes its reputation for durability to its lower level of
> expansion under heat. Old glass was so-called soda-lime glass,
> and expanded easily under heat, which was self-destructive.
> The addition of borosilicate salts to raw glass lowered the coef.
> of expansion, which made the glass more resistant to thermal
> shock. It still has limits. I think Fire-king and Pyrex are about
> equivalent. Kimble glass calls their product Kimax.
>
> Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at ungodly
> high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is thermally VERY
> stable and can take thermal shocks that would cause Pyrex to
> shatter.
>
> HTH
>
> Alex, Chemiker
===================================
What about those top-of-the-stove glass saucepans in the pictures with
the metal pot melting inside? Can't remember the brand - they were
amber or cranberry colored glass.

I have had better luck with Pyrex and Anchor than clear Corningware.
Remember those glass cylinders for baguettes and the glass souflee
dishes? Broke two of each before I gave up on them.
Lynn in Fargo

ms. tonya wrote:

> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> my hands.


Just make sure you buy diabetic-friendly tempered glass. It makes all the
difference in the world.

-sw

"Lynn from Fargo" > wrote in message
===================================
What about those top-of-the-stove glass saucepans in the pictures with
the metal pot melting inside? Can't remember the brand - they were
amber or cranberry colored glass.

************************************************** ***************
Visionware or Visions. Horrid stuff as far as cooking. I tossed a pot into
the trash with the burnt boiled potatoes in it. Yes, they burned on the
bottom while boiling and the pot full of water.

On Feb 5, 10:54 pm, (ms. tonya) wrote:
> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>
> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> have used in microwave.
>
> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> my hands.
>
> TIA

Don't they still make Corning Ware baking dishes?

N.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Lynn from Fargo" > wrote in message
> ===================================
> What about those top-of-the-stove glass saucepans in the pictures with
> the metal pot melting inside? Can't remember the brand - they were
> amber or cranberry colored glass.
>
> ************************************************** ***************
> Visionware or Visions. Horrid stuff as far as cooking. I tossed a pot into
> the trash with the burnt boiled potatoes in it. Yes, they burned on the
> bottom while boiling and the pot full of water.

Odd, I used some of that stuff and never had a problem with it. It
wasn't my favorite though.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Feb 5, 10:54 pm, (ms. tonya) wrote:
>> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
>> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
>> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
>>
>> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
>> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
>> have used in microwave.
>>
>> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
>> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
>> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
>> my hands.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Don't they still make Corning Ware baking dishes?
>
> N.



For quite a few years they stopped making the classic
Corningware but recently I was at an outlet and the
clerk said they were beginning to turn it out again,
starting with the old cornflower blue design.

I've been buying all I could find at thrift stores.

Meanwhile I couldn't believe how many dinnerware
patterns they have. Some were quite attractive,
but still that very thin glass-like weight.

I don't think Pyrex is the only glass that will shatter
if there are scratches in the finish, so another
brand won't necessarily be exempt from the problem.


gloria p

In article
>,
Lynn from Fargo > wrote:

> What about those top-of-the-stove glass saucepans in the pictures with
> the metal pot melting inside? Can't remember the brand - they were
> amber or cranberry colored glass.

> Lynn in Fargo

Visions by Corning. Dunno if they're still made; for some reason, I
doubt it.
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In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> On Feb 5, 10:54 pm, (ms. tonya) wrote:
> > Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> > been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> > few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
> >
> > Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> > own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> > have used in microwave.
> >
> > I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> > with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> > bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> > my hands.
> >
> > TIA
>
> Don't they still make Corning Ware baking dishes?
>
> N.

Not out of the pyroceram material that made Corningware a household name.

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-- a woman my age shouldn't
have this much fun!

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:43:11 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>************************************************* ****************
>Visionware or Visions. Horrid stuff as far as cooking. I tossed a pot into
>the trash with the burnt boiled potatoes in it. Yes, they burned on the
>bottom while boiling and the pot full of water.
>
Right, VisionWare. I bought a set of the amber ones. Hated them.
Donated them to a charity thrift shop. (Thin charity, that! Lord,
forgive me that act!)

Alex, not really penitent.

emailed and posted:

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
> stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might have to look
> into that.


IIRC, the Pyrex and other glass stove-top stuff originally came with a
small star-shaped wire rack to place between the glass and the burner to
mitigate the direct heat.

Showing my age, huh.

gloria p

In article
>,
Lynn from Fargo > wrote:

> On Feb 6, 9:51*am, Chemiker > wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >In article >,
> > > (ms. tonya) wrote:
> > >Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or over direct
> > >heat. *See this:
> > ><http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104
> > >Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
> > >stovetop. *I wonder why that was okay for that use. *Might have to look
> > >into that.
> >
> > >Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram," *and they
> > >used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and skillets, IIRC. *
> > >http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996
> >
> > IIRC, Pyrex owes its reputation for durability to its lower level of
> > expansion under heat. Old glass was so-called soda-lime glass,
> > and expanded easily under heat, which was self-destructive.
> > The addition of borosilicate salts to raw glass lowered the coef.
> > of expansion, which made the glass more resistant to thermal
> > shock. It still has limits. I think Fire-king and Pyrex are about
> > equivalent. Kimble glass calls their product Kimax.
> >
> > Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at ungodly
> > high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is thermally VERY
> > stable and can take thermal shocks that would cause Pyrex to
> > shatter.

> What about those top-of-the-stove glass saucepans in the pictures with
> the metal pot melting inside? Can't remember the brand - they were
> amber or cranberry colored glass.

Vision?

Turned out to be a bit of a gimmick. Also claimed to be non-stick,
which was a joke.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

James Silverton wrote:
> Chemiker wrote on Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:51:55 -0600:
>
>> I think
>> Fire-king and Pyrex are about equivalent. Kimble glass calls
>> their product Kimax.

Our experience with Kimax in a high school chemistry lab
was that it was more fragile than Pyrex. We had a lot more
breakage of every type with Kimax so we started to avoid
ordering it whenever possible.

>> Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at
>> ungodly high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is
>> thermally VERY stable and can take thermal shocks that would
>> cause Pyrex to shatter.
>
> Corningware, or Pyroceram, is a partially crystallized glass and, as you
> say, will take themal shock. It does not bounce any better than glass or
> porcelain and can break up spectacularly!
>

Amen to that. We have wooden floor in the kitchen and when a
piece of Corningware falls and breaks we still find tiny shards
for a very long time after mopping and vacuuming.

gloria p

Gloria P wrote:
>
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > On Feb 5, 10:54 pm, (ms. tonya) wrote:
> >> Soon I want to buy a few glass pie pans & some glass baking dishes and
> >> been trying to search for a brand that hasn't cause a uproar in the last
> >> few years such as the exploding Pyrex I read about.
> >>
> >> Used Pyrex all my adult life and never had any troubles but the ones I
> >> own are vintage plus I never used them on stove tops under broiler but
> >> have used in microwave.
> >>
> >> I don't want to take any chances being diabetic and buying anything new
> >> with Pyrex name so wondering can some one recommend a brand of glass
> >> bakeware that I can have peace of mind about not shattering/exploding in
> >> my hands.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >
> > Don't they still make Corning Ware baking dishes?
> >
> > N.
>
> For quite a few years they stopped making the classic
> Corningware but recently I was at an outlet and the
> clerk said they were beginning to turn it out again,
> starting with the old cornflower blue design.
>
> I've been buying all I could find at thrift stores.
>
> Meanwhile I couldn't believe how many dinnerware
> patterns they have. Some were quite attractive,
> but still that very thin glass-like weight.
>
> I don't think Pyrex is the only glass that will shatter
> if there are scratches in the finish, so another
> brand won't necessarily be exempt from the problem.
>
> gloria p

We have a few pieces of the 'cornflower' Corningware. Apparently my
father liked the stuff and went out and bought some Never had a
problem with any of the pieces, which are used on the cooker top, in the
oven and toaster oven and in the microwave. They are all over 25 years
old.

Chemiker wrote:
>
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > (ms. tonya) wrote:
>
> >Pyrex is not supposed to be used on top of the stove and/or over direct
> >heat. See this:
> ><http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=104
> >Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
> >stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might have to look
> >into that.
> >
> >Corningware used to be made of something called "pyroceram," and they
> >used to make a line of stove-top-safe saucepans and skillets, IIRC.
> >http://www.epinions.com/content_4704804996
>
> IIRC, Pyrex owes its reputation for durability to its lower level of
> expansion under heat. Old glass was so-called soda-lime glass,
> and expanded easily under heat, which was self-destructive.
> The addition of borosilicate salts to raw glass lowered the coef.
> of expansion, which made the glass more resistant to thermal
> shock. It still has limits. I think Fire-king and Pyrex are about
> equivalent. Kimble glass calls their product Kimax.

Is Kimax available for consumer use? Have only known it as lab ware.


>
> Corningware is a different breed of cat. It is fired at ungodly
> high temps and acts more like porcelain. It is thermally VERY
> stable and can take thermal shocks that would cause Pyrex to
> shatter.
>
> HTH
>
> Alex, Chemiker

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:30:21 -0700, Gloria P wrote:

> emailed and posted:
>
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, I DO still have my Pyrex glass double boiler for use on a
>> stovetop. I wonder why that was okay for that use. Might have to look
>> into that.
>
> IIRC, the Pyrex and other glass stove-top stuff originally came with a
> small star-shaped wire rack to place between the glass and the burner to
> mitigate the direct heat.
>
> Showing my age, huh.
>
> gloria p

i remember those.

your pal,
blake