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On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:

> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character. Some
> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."


"Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot grow under
their feet and are even more pretentious since I last visited the great wine
comedy.


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On Mon 08 Dec 2008 06:00:40p, notbob told us...

> On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:
>
>> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
>> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character. Some
>> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."

>
> "Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
> character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot
> grow under their feet and are even more pretentious since I last visited
> the great wine comedy.
>
>
> nb ...aka zinn
>


I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't think
they were an expert.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 08 Dec 2008 06:00:40p, notbob told us...
>
>> On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:
>>
>>> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
>>> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character. Some
>>> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."

>> "Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
>> character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot
>> grow under their feet and are even more pretentious since I last visited
>> the great wine comedy.
>>
>>
>> nb ...aka zinn
>>

>
> I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't think
> they were an expert.


Actually, I'm a fennel and anise snob. I don't think they can be
improved on, not even with the most forward wine.

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On Mon 08 Dec 2008 07:13:45p, Pennyaline told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 08 Dec 2008 06:00:40p, notbob told us...
>>
>>> On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
>>>> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character.

Some
>>>> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."
>>> "Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
>>> character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot
>>> grow under their feet and are even more pretentious since I last

visited
>>> the great wine comedy.
>>>
>>>
>>> nb ...aka zinn
>>>

>>
>> I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't think
>> they were an expert.

>
> Actually, I'm a fennel and anise snob. I don't think they can be
> improved on, not even with the most forward wine.
>
>


I feel the same way about fennel and anise. However, I could see that the
combination with the right wine might be very pleasant, although not
necessarily an improvement. At first taste together, it might be a very
nice surprise.


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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:21:09 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I feel the same way about fennel and anise. However, I could see that the
>combination with the right wine might be very pleasant, although not
>necessarily an improvement. At first taste together, it might be a very
>nice surprise.


Some of the Provencal dishes that have a fennel/anise flavor in them,
such as bouillabaisse, do well with a dry rose.

I make a chicken bouillabaisse from Patricia Wells' Bistro
Cooking..and while I haven't made it in a while, my memory of it says
it matches well with a dry rose.

Christine


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On Mon 08 Dec 2008 07:25:52p, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:21:09 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>I feel the same way about fennel and anise. However, I could see that

the
>>combination with the right wine might be very pleasant, although not
>>necessarily an improvement. At first taste together, it might be a very
>>nice surprise.

>
> Some of the Provencal dishes that have a fennel/anise flavor in them,
> such as bouillabaisse, do well with a dry rose.
>
> I make a chicken bouillabaisse from Patricia Wells' Bistro
> Cooking..and while I haven't made it in a while, my memory of it says
> it matches well with a dry rose.
>
> Christine


Sounds good, Christine! I like rosé wines.

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:48:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>Sounds good, Christine! I like rosé wines.


But only dry roses...non of that White Zinfandel stuff....

However, dry roses seem to belong to summer, in my mind. But things
like that also go with a good red wine... Preferably one from the
south of France...

And no, I don't *think* I am a wine snob, but I do love a really good
wine. Most of the ones these days are way too fruity for me, which is
why I like a lot of the ones made in France, where they know to tone
it down a bit. I don't like drinking fruit juice ...LOL.

I tend to like really dry wines, that marry well with food. I have
been lucky to live in the San Francisco bay area, where there is a
profound appreciation of good wine, and where it is not frowned upon
to have a glass of wine with lunch.... And where there are countless
wine events..... I learned a lot there...

Christine
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:13:45 -0700, Pennyaline wrote:

> Actually, I'm a fennel and anise snob. I don't think they can be
> improved on, not even with the most forward wine.


I don't know about forward or backward wines. Same for fennel/anise being
mistaken for licorice. Oh, I can understand the similarity, but they are
just not the same. Kinda like soy or turkey being mistaken for real beef.
Sorry! Not in my world.

On that forward crap:

----

Forward

Wine that has accelerated its maturity more quickly than expected is
described as ´forward¡ (as opposed to backward). Also, in tasting notes,
´forward fruit¡ indicates that there is a high concentration of fruit
tasted in the wine. As in social circles, too much forwardness can be
obnoxious and a turn-off.

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"more quickly"? "...is a high concentration of fruit tasted in wine"?
WTF!? Of course there is a "fruit tasted in wine". Wine IS MADE FROM
FRUIT!!! I love the phrase, "too much forwardness can be obnoxious and a
turn-off.". Are we speaking of the wine or the pretentious assholes paying
more attention to their standing amongst fellow oenophiles than how good an
even decent wine can be?

nb
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notbob wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:13:45 -0700, Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> Actually, I'm a fennel and anise snob. I don't think they can be
>> improved on, not even with the most forward wine.

>
> I don't know about forward or backward wines. Same for fennel/anise being
> mistaken for licorice. Oh, I can understand the similarity, but they are
> just not the same. Kinda like soy or turkey being mistaken for real beef.
> Sorry! Not in my world.
>
> On that forward crap:



In that post, I meant *forward* in the sense of overly familiar or immodest.
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:13:45 -0700, Pennyaline wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 08 Dec 2008 06:00:40p, notbob told us...
>>
>>> On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
>>>> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character. Some
>>>> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."
>>> "Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
>>> character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot
>>> grow under their feet and are even more pretentious since I last visited
>>> the great wine comedy.
>>>
>>>
>>> nb ...aka zinn
>>>

>>
>> I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't think
>> they were an expert.

>
> Actually, I'm a fennel and anise snob. I don't think they can be
> improved on, not even with the most forward wine.


i draw the line when the wine starts goosing me under the table.

your pal,
blake


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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:45:59 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Mon 08 Dec 2008 06:00:40p, notbob told us...
>
>> On 2008-12-08, Pennyaline > wrote:
>>
>>> "Fruit forward" reds are lusher and more heavily fruity than subtler
>>> reds that rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for character. Some
>>> wine snobs call the most obstreperous of them "fruit bombs."

>>
>> "Some wine snobs"? "rely on aged flavors and balanced tannins for
>> character"? Seems those zany oenophiles are not letting the grape rot
>> grow under their feet and are even more pretentious since I last visited
>> the great wine comedy.
>>
>>
>> nb ...aka zinn
>>

>
> I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't think
> they were an expert.


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On Tue 09 Dec 2008 11:26:37a, blake murphy told us...

> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:45:59 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:


>> I've never met an "oenophile" who wasn't pretentios or that didn't
>> think they were an expert.

>
> <http://www.thenewyorkerstore.com/pro...id=LD0BMDGAJQJ
> K8JPDMK0V2Q04HWU8434A&sitetype=1&affiliate=MBW1&si d=19019>
>
> your pal,
> blake


I love that!

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