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Delurking--
I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any opinions? Merry Christmas! Chuck Kopsho Oceanside, California |
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On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote:
> Delurking-- > * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > * * * * *Merry Christmas! > * * * * *Chuck Kopsho > * * * * *Oceanside, California You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. The numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. There are medications that can help with that. Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory problems in the legs and feet. Carol, fellow Type 2 |
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On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us...
> On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: >> Delurking-- >> * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any >> opinions? >> >> * * * * *Merry Christmas! >> * * * * *Chuck Kopsho >> * * * * *Oceanside, California > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. The > numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. There are medications that can > help with that. Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > problems in the legs and feet. > > Carol, fellow Type 2 > Totally agreed. Fellow Type 2 as well. -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ************************************************** ********************** Date: Thursday, 12(XII)/04(IV)/08(MMVIII) ************************************************** ********************** Countdown till Christmas Day 2wks 6dys 37mins ************************************************** ********************** ERROR: in REALITY.SYS, lter Reality, un FANTASY.COM intead? ************************************************** ********************** |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > > Delurking-- > > * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get > > numb, and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a > > T2 diabetic to worry about? Yes!! Ever since my diagnosis on September > > 15, 2008, I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and > > refined sugar. Any opinions? > > > > * * * * *Merry Christmas! > > * * * * *Chuck Kopsho > > * * * * *Oceanside, California > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. The > numbness may be diabetic neuropathy. There are medications that can > help with that. Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > problems in the legs and feet. Also in the hands, I believe; though perhaps less often. > Carol, fellow Type 2 I was in Type 2, got out of it. Found out when I mentioned to the doctor that an itch between two of my toes didn't seem to be going away. On the same visit, my blood pressure turned out to be rather high. I'd gone in about ringing in my ears which hadn't stopped. Luckily, it wasn't very loud -- because it turned out there wasn't any treatment for it. -- Dan Goodman "I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers." Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com Futures http://clerkfuturist.wordpress.com Mirror Journal http://dsgood.insanejournal.com Mirror 2 http://dsgood.wordpress.com Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood |
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On Dec 5, 12:50*am, "Dan Goodman" > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > > > On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > > > Delurking-- > > > * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get > > > numb, and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a > > > T2 diabetic to worry about? > > Yes!! > > Ever since my diagnosis on September > > > > 15, 2008, I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and > > > refined sugar. Any opinions? > > > > * * * * *Chuck Kopsho > > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. *The > > numbness may be diabetic neuropathy. *There are medications that can > > help with that. *Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > > problems in the legs and feet. > > Also in the hands, I believe; though perhaps less often. > -- > Dan Goodman True. I was recently diagnosed with carpal tunnel syndrome because I kept waking up with numb hands. I have braces to wear at night to keep my wrists from bending and cutting off circulation. Sorry to hear that so many of us have diabetes. Carol |
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On Dec 5, 3:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote:
> Delurking-- > * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? Swollen ankles or fluid retention (oedema) may not only be caused by diabetes mellitus. Also, tight fitting shoes and being on feet for too long sometimes causes slight numbness in tips of toes. But to be sure see doctor ASAP. Your blood sugar levels should tell you if you are in jeopardy. Lower scale 4.5, upper scale 6.5. Hope you are OK Sara |
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"Chuck Kopsho" > wrote in message ... > Delurking-- > I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? No. Numbness is not a symptom until way into uncontrolled diabetes. Tingling, burning, jabbing pain is a symptom. Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? Good plan. But do see an endocrinologist. Meds can really help control T2 diabetes and slow its progression. Paul - T2 since May 06 |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us... >> >> Carol, fellow Type 2 >> > > Totally agreed. > > Fellow Type 2 as well. > This is not good. I personally know several friends and acquaintances that have Type 2. I wonder why it's so prevalent these days? Is it our diets/way of life/stress/whatever or is it just that medicine has 'advanced' to be able to diagnose it as Type 2? i.e. Has it been around for centuries but we didn't really know what it was? Any ideas? -- Cheers Chatty Cathy |
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On Dec 5, 10:15*pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us... > > >> Carol, fellow Type 2 > > > Totally agreed. > > > Fellow Type 2 as well. > > This is not good. I personally know several friends and acquaintances > that have Type 2. I wonder why it's so prevalent these days? Is it our > diets/way of life/stress/whatever or is it just that medicine > has 'advanced' to be able to diagnose it as Type 2? i.e. Has it been > around for centuries but we didn't really know what it was? Any ideas? Sadly, T2 diabeties is related to our diets and our increasing waist measurements. I believe USA, followed by Australia are countries with have the most fattish people in the world. Regards SarahS |
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(Chuck Kopsho) wrote:
> Delurking-- > � I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > � � � � �Oceanside, California Don't they have any medical doctors in Cauleefourkneea? There are many reasons for numbness and swelling in the lower extremeties that haven't a whit to do with diabetes... one of the most common is plain old inactivity, sitting at a PC hour after hour. I suggest you WALK to your doctor. http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/t...-call-a-doctor |
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"Sheldon" > wrote in message ... (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > Delurking-- > ? I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > ? ? ? ? ?Oceanside, California Don't they have any medical doctors in Cauleefourkneea? There are many reasons for numbness and swelling in the lower extremeties that haven't a whit to do with diabetes... one of the most common is plain old inactivity, sitting at a PC hour after hour. I suggest you WALK to your doctor. http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/t...-call-a-doctor Egads, TWICE in one week I have to agree with Sheldon. To best diagnose ANY problems you should see your physician.....I had numbness in my right leg....was it from my diabetes, no....it was because I was driving a bus for four hours a day.....solution.....shift my ass occasionally so I wasn't putting pressure on the nerve for long periods of time. If you sit with your feet tucked under you (toes and balls of feet on floor, heels raised) while at your desk typing this will numb your toes. Ankles will swell due to any number of reasons, from inactivity with legs down to congestive heart failure.......carpal tunnel, which causes numbness in the hands is caused by repetitive motion (such as typing at a key board) and is rarely cured by changing position, mostly by the time the symptoms of CTS comes on, it is surgery time (had it, once in each hand)....also, any injuries you may have had in the past involving your arms or legs can cause numbness. Get thee to a physician and don't ask from a bunch of cooks.........we just cook for it (plenty of good diabetic recipes if you ask) not treat it. -ginny |
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On Fri 05 Dec 2008 04:15:09a, ChattyCathy told us...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > >> On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us... > >>> >>> Carol, fellow Type 2 >>> >> >> Totally agreed. >> >> Fellow Type 2 as well. >> > > This is not good. I personally know several friends and acquaintances > that have Type 2. I wonder why it's so prevalent these days? Is it our > diets/way of life/stress/whatever or is it just that medicine > has 'advanced' to be able to diagnose it as Type 2? i.e. Has it been > around for centuries but we didn't really know what it was? Any ideas? Cathy, I think it's all of the above, but perhaps overweight and lifestyle contribute more than other factors. -- Wayne Boatwright (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply) ************************************************** ********************** Date: Friday, 12(XII)/05(V)/08(MMVIII) ************************************************** ********************** Countdown till Christmas Day 2wks 5dys 14hrs 10mins ************************************************** ********************** Oxymoron: Virtual Reality. ************************************************** ********************** |
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:16:21 -0800 (PST), Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: >> Delurking-- >> * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any >> opinions? >> >> * * * * *Merry Christmas! >> * * * * *Chuck Kopsho >> * * * * *Oceanside, California > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. The > numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. There are medications that can > help with that. Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > problems in the legs and feet. > > Carol, fellow Type 2 they're also notorious for losing said legs and feet. go see a doctor. your pal, blake |
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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
> Delurking-- > I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > Merry Christmas! > Chuck Kopsho > Oceanside, California Join this newsgroup: alt.support.diet.low-carb Best of luck to you. Becca |
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On Dec 5, 11:21*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:16:21 -0800 (PST), Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > > > > > On Dec 4, 10:20*pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > >> Delurking-- > >> * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > >> opinions? > > >> * * * * *Merry Christmas! > >> * * * * *Chuck Kopsho > >> * * * * *Oceanside, California > > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. *The > > numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. *There are medications that can > > help with that. *Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > > problems in the legs and feet. > > > Carol, fellow Type 2 > > they're also notorious for losing said legs and feet. *go see a doctor. > > your pal, > blake Listen to what Blake and Carol have said - and the others too! Notice that we disagree about the cause of the numbness, but we ALL are telling you to get to a doctor who treats diabetes. This is not necessarily the doc who diagnosed you. Do it NOW before you have more complications. Wish I had. Lynn in Fargo Overweight, high blood pressure, acid reflux, gout, diabetes2, emphysema and heart disease (in that order!) |
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(Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > Delurking-- > I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? I am a diabetic, and was diagnosed in 1972. Feet are always a big concern. People with uncontrolled diabetes (not taking their medications and controlling their diet) can lose their toes. They get infected and the circulation isn't sufficient due to the blood being too thick. If further uncontrolled, they lose their feet. Next step is the legs. There's nothing to be lost by surgery after that. They can't remove your vital organs after they get infected, so you die. Chances are, it's not diabetes. I get the strong impression, though, that doctors would much rather see you and find that it's something else, than deal with serious infections and amputations later on. If you are concerned, go see the doctor. It's not an emergency, but you will sleep better, whatever is found. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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ChattyCathy > wrote: > Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > > On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us... > > >> > >> Carol, fellow Type 2 > >> > > > > Totally agreed. > > > > Fellow Type 2 as well. > > > > This is not good. I personally know several friends and acquaintances > that have Type 2. I wonder why it's so prevalent these days? Is it our > diets/way of life/stress/whatever or is it just that medicine > has 'advanced' to be able to diagnose it as Type 2? i.e. Has it been > around for centuries but we didn't really know what it was? Any ideas? Yes. We're having this discussion on another group. It has been proposed that it is due to refined sugar and flour. I think it is a combination of better medicine and more aggressive treatment. It's a lot easier, cheaper and more fun to treat diabetes before complications set in. One of the leading causes of blindness in the US is diabetes. There's really no good excuse for that. It takes five years of uncontrolled diabetes before blindness *starts*. Once someone takes control of their diabetes, further blindness is prevented (although they never get back what has been lost). -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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"Chuck Kopsho" > wrote in message ... > Delurking-- > I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > Merry Christmas! > Chuck Kopsho > Oceanside, California > Chuck, It could be signs of neuropathy, and it could be a circulatory issue, so it's best to speak to your physician about it. Especially the numbness, which is a worrisome issue for diabetics. It's been something like 6 or 8 years since I was diagnosed, and luckily, I seem to be doing ok with meds. No insulin yet. Have you spoke with a dietician or nutritionist? It's more than cutting carbs...you still need carbs, just the right kind. It is also a balance game, eating this food with that food to keep the best, steady, maintained blood sugar levels. Good luck to you, and Merry Christmas! kimberly -- http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Dec 4, 10:20 pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: >> Delurking-- >> I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any >> opinions? >> >> Merry Christmas! >> Chuck Kopsho >> Oceanside, California > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. The > numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. There are medications that can > help with that. Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > problems in the legs and feet. > > Carol, fellow Type 2 A year or two ago a thread made me compile a list of diabetics here and I was astounded at how many there were at the time. I doubt I can find the list again, but there is a considerable population on rfc. What Carol said. See your doctor if you want to keep your toes. gloria p |
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On Dec 5, 2:00*pm, Gloria P > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > > > > > On Dec 4, 10:20 pm, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > >> Delurking-- > >> * I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > >> opinions? > > >> * * * * *Merry Christmas! > >> * * * * *Chuck Kopsho > >> * * * * *Oceanside, California > > > You should definitely see your doctor about these symptoms. *The > > numbness *may* be diabetic neuropathy. *There are medications that can > > help with that. *Diabetics are notorious for having circulatory > > problems in the legs and feet. > > > Carol, fellow Type 2 > > A year or two ago a thread made me compile a list of diabetics here and > I was astounded at how many there were at the time. *I doubt I can find > the list again, but there is a considerable population on rfc. > > What Carol said. *See your doctor if you want to keep your toes. > > gloria p =============================================== I keep wondering if we can chalk up the explosion of type 2 diabetes to the overwhelming increase in high fructose corn syrup - it is metabolized much faster than the regular stuff. More of it goes into the blood stream faster so you get those huge sugar spikes. I can tell by testing my blood. Spike is much faster/higher with HFCS than cane or beet sugars. Lynn in Fargo |
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http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/Ms...iabetes%20type lef.org is great source for health/nutritional info...good luck |
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"Sheldon" > wrote in message
... (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: > Delurking-- > � I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, > and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 > diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, > I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any > opinions? > > � � � � �Oceanside, California Don't they have any medical doctors in Cauleefourkneea? There are many reasons for numbness and swelling in the lower extremeties that haven't a whit to do with diabetes... one of the most common is plain old inactivity, sitting at a PC hour after hour. I suggest you WALK to your doctor. http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/t...-call-a-doctor I get a kick out of people who think folks on a cooking ng can diagnose medical problems. Go to the doctor, man! No one here, diabetic or not, is qualified to offer a diagnosis. We can't write prescriptions, either. Jill |
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>, Lynn from Fargo > wrote: > I keep wondering if we can chalk up the explosion of type 2 diabetes > to the overwhelming increase in high fructose corn syrup - it is > metabolized much faster than the regular stuff. More of it goes into > the blood stream faster so you get those huge sugar spikes. I can > tell by testing my blood. Spike is much faster/higher with HFCS than > cane or beet sugars. It wouldn't surprise me. They are most common now in carbonated soft drinks. I'm glad I gave those up pretty much permanently several years ago. -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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(Chuck Kopsho) wrote: >> Delurking-- >> � I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, >> and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 >> diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, >> I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any >> opinions? >> � � � � �Oceanside, California >Don't they have any medical doctors in Cauleefourkneea? >There are many reasons for numbness and swelling in the lower >extremeties that haven't a whit to do with diabetes... one of the most >common is plain old inactivity, sitting at a PC hour after hour. I >suggest you WALK to your doctor. While there are doctors in California, not everyone in California has a doctor at their disposal, at least not conveniently. Hence the need to ask friends, newsgroups, etc. medical questions. Having said that, I agree the foot symptoms should be evaluated. There is a growing body of knowledge that says that a long interval of pre-diabetes can lead to the emergence of classic diabetes symptoms soon after full-blown diabetes is diagnosed, so the first question that comes to mind in the above case is what sort of history preceded the September 2008 diagnosis. Steve |
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I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine,
someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't be buying a pasta machine. Alan On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:20:40 -0800, (Chuck Kopsho) wrote: >Delurking-- > I'm at a phase where the tips of my toes are beginning to get numb, >and my ankles are swollen. Are these symptoms something for a T2 >diabetic to worry about? Ever since my diagnosis on September 15, 2008, >I have been trying to avoid foods with high carbs and refined sugar. Any >opinions? > > Merry Christmas! > Chuck Kopsho > Oceanside, California |
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> In article >, > says... >> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >>> On Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:21p, Damsel in dis Dress told us... >>>> Carol, fellow Type 2 >>>> >>> Totally agreed. >>> >>> Fellow Type 2 as well. >>> >> This is not good. I personally know several friends and acquaintances >> that have Type 2. I wonder why it's so prevalent these days? Is it our >> diets/way of life/stress/whatever or is it just that medicine >> has 'advanced' to be able to diagnose it as Type 2? i.e. Has it been >> around for centuries but we didn't really know what it was? Any ideas? >> > > If I had to guess I'd say it is the increase in carbohydrate intake. > That said, they've found that the type of weight loss surgery that takes > our part of the duodenum tends to cure type 2 diabetics. That must be > the part where major absorption of the carbohydrates takes place. > I've been the care-giver to a T2 Diabetic for 23 years. I read all I can and have been to many education courses. Some type 2 Diabetics are genetically prone to the disease. Others get that way by becoming obese. Type 2 Diabetics make insulin but their bodies can't use it properly or, in some cases, at all. The cells need a little "key" to unlock them so that they can use the insulin and T2 Diabetics can't get their "keys" to work. The chemical that prevents the "keys" from working is stored in adipose tissue. The more adipose tissue, the more likely a person is to become a type 2 Diabetic because they can't use the insulin their body produces. Overweight people are much more at risk for type 2 Diabetes because of this. Many people who have been diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes find that they can stop taking oral medications when they loose a lot of excess weight and get to a more "normal" weight range. My cousin is a type 2 Diabetic and a life-time obese person. She recently had the gastric surgery and her blood glucose numbers are totally normal. I know that the surgery "cures" Diabetes, and your thoughts make sense, though I don't think the medical community has pronounced on it yet. JMTCW -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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Nathalie Chiva wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:48:25 -0500, Alan Calan > > wrote: > >> I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine, >> someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) >> took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis >> and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to >> amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. >> >> I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't >> be buying a pasta machine. > > On the contrary. My mother increased her carb consumption and > decreased her cheese consumption and now her diabetes is under > control. In our modern society we eat far too few carbs (think about > what our ancestors were eating). > > Nathalie in Switzerland That is the strangest treatment I've ever heard of. It's a well-known fact that Diabetics have to restrict their carbohydrate consumption. My DH, though a type 2 Diabetic, is on an insulin pump. (He has other medical conditions that preclude him from taking oral medications any longer.) When a Diabetic uses insulin, they have a "basal" dosage which mimics the healthy pancreas with a constant flow of insulin and a "bolus" dose which is calculated by taking their pre-meal blood glucose reading and factoring in the number of carbohydrates they are going to consume in the meal. This also mimics a healthy pancreas which excretes additional insulin when we eat. One study I recently read said that a healthy pancreas will begin to excrete insulin as soon as we look at food. I have no idea what the average diet is in Switzerland, but here in the US, our carbohydrate intake is far too high for the life most of us lead. High-carb diets were important when people worked with their bodies, like in the fields or other intense physical work. Most of us don't do that kind of labor any longer and our diet still contains that amount of carbohydrates. Paper after paper on the "obesity problem" blames a high-carb diet and lack of exercise. BTW, my mom got her Diabetes under better control when she began to eat more cheese and drastically reduced her carbohydrate intake. YMMV -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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Alan Calan > wrote: > I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine, > someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) > took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis > and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to > amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. > > I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't > be buying a pasta machine. > > > Alan > Gives you something to think about doesn't it? Condolences. Low carbing has made me into a far more creative cook. I actually enjoy it. -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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Nathalie Chiva <Nathaliedotchivaatgmail.remove.com> wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:48:25 -0500, Alan Calan > > wrote: > > >I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine, > >someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) > >took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis > >and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to > >amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. > > > >I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't > >be buying a pasta machine. > > On the contrary. My mother increased her carb consumption and > decreased her cheese consumption and now her diabetes is under > control. In our modern society we eat far too few carbs (think about > what our ancestors were eating). > > Nathalie in Switzerland There is nothing wrong with high fiber carbs. The problem is _refined_ carbs. Our ancestors were not eating hfcs or cane sugar. -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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Nathalie Chiva <Nathaliedotchivaatgmail.remove.com> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:31:02 -0600, Omelet > > wrote: > > >In article >, > > Nathalie Chiva <Nathaliedotchivaatgmail.remove.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:48:25 -0500, Alan Calan > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine, > >> >someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) > >> >took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis > >> >and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to > >> >amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. > >> > > >> >I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't > >> >be buying a pasta machine. > >> > >> On the contrary. My mother increased her carb consumption and > >> decreased her cheese consumption and now her diabetes is under > >> control. In our modern society we eat far too few carbs (think about > >> what our ancestors were eating). > >> > >> Nathalie in Switzerland > > > >There is nothing wrong with high fiber carbs. > >The problem is _refined_ carbs. > > > >Our ancestors were not eating hfcs or cane sugar. > > > Yes, indeed, *that* is an important distinction. When I wrote carbs, I > was thinking of high-fiber ones, you're right. And another change my > mother has incorporated into her daily diet is grain bread instead of > white bread, and wholewheat pasta instead of regular pasta. As for > sweet stuff, she hasn't had to change her consumption since she > already ate so little. > > Nathalie in Switzerland Volume as opposed to content? :-) There is a lot to consider... -- Peace! Om "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama |
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Janet Wilder > wrote:
>My cousin is a type 2 Diabetic and a life-time obese person. She >recently had the gastric surgery and her blood glucose numbers are >totally normal. I know that the surgery "cures" Diabetes, and your >thoughts make sense, though I don't think the medical community has >pronounced on it yet. Everything I've read on the subject indicates that bariatric surgery is unusually effective in resolving T2 diabetes in an obese person -- it is somehow moe effective than other methods of weight loss, but at present it is unknown why this is. Steve |
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"Nathalie Chiva" <Nathaliedotchivaatgmail.remove.com> wrote > > Yes, indeed, *that* is an important distinction. When I wrote carbs, I > was thinking of high-fiber ones, you're right. I knew you had to be. My MIL refuses to make this distinction, and eats cookies and candy and counts them the same as whole grain bread. Duh. |
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cybercat wrote:
> "Nathalie Chiva" <Nathaliedotchivaatgmail.remove.com> wrote >> Yes, indeed, *that* is an important distinction. When I wrote carbs, I >> was thinking of high-fiber ones, you're right. > > I knew you had to be. My MIL refuses to make this distinction, and eats > cookies and candy and counts them the same as whole grain bread. Duh. > > We've learned that the best way to see if a food raises one's blood glucose is to test 1 hour and 2 hours after the meal. Since everyone is different, one's glucometer should be the "expert" -- Janet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:40:02 -0600, Omelet >
wrote: >In article >, > Lynn from Fargo > wrote: > >> I keep wondering if we can chalk up the explosion of type 2 diabetes >> to the overwhelming increase in high fructose corn syrup - it is >> metabolized much faster than the regular stuff. More of it goes into >> the blood stream faster so you get those huge sugar spikes. I can >> tell by testing my blood. Spike is much faster/higher with HFCS than >> cane or beet sugars. > >It wouldn't surprise me. They are most common now in carbonated soft >drinks. I don't know. My mother got diagnosed with diabetes less than a year ago, at age 76, she *never* drinks soft drinks and eats very little sweets and pastry. My best friend got diagnosed with diabetes 2 weeks ago at age 49 (and analyses done 8 months ago were perfectly normal), she never drinks soft drinks either and doesn't eat that many sweets. But both are overweight (although my mother lost 11 kgs - that would be about 25 lbs - since being diagnosed, and my friend 2 kgs - 5 lbs - in less than 2 weeks). Nathalie in Switzerland |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:48:25 -0500, Alan Calan >
wrote: >I just found out about an hour ago that an older friend of mine, >someone who is in my tennis group (but stopped playing a while ago) >took his life. He had bad arthritis, lots of pain, he was on dialysis >and he had diabetes and the Drs. told him that they might need to >amputate his legs. That was all he needed to hear. > >I don't have diabetes but I am getting too close. Maybe I shouldn't >be buying a pasta machine. On the contrary. My mother increased her carb consumption and decreased her cheese consumption and now her diabetes is under control. In our modern society we eat far too few carbs (think about what our ancestors were eating). Nathalie in Switzerland |
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