I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
night must be due to something else?


--Lia

On Jul 10, 10:53*am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. *I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. *Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? *Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?
>
> --Lia

There certainly is caffeine in tea, even in "decaf" tea, just like in
"decaf" coffee, because they can't ever get it all out.

I never drink caffeinated tea in the afternoon or evening, because it
will keep me awake. I gave up caffeine almost 20 years ago.

N.

Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT):

> On Jul 10, 10:53 am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>> I'm wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of
>> tea. Does anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that
>> my inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>> else?
>>
>> --Lia

> There certainly is caffeine in tea, even in "decaf" tea, just
> like in "decaf" coffee, because they can't ever get it all
> out.

> I never drink caffeinated tea in the afternoon or evening,
> because it will keep me awake. I gave up caffeine almost 20
> years ago.

I have *not* given up caffeine tho' I don't consider a mug of coffee
after dinner and at breakfast is over-induging! Based on my small
exposure to the British military, a pot of tea kept warm all night is a
real corpse reviver.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2008-07-10, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?

yes
yes
yes
no

nb

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?
>
> --Lia

Caffeine in tea is around half the level of caffeine in coffee overall I
believe. I can't give you any info as to it's affect on sleep, since I
can drink a triple espresso and then go right to sleep.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:37:47 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
>> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
>> night must be due to something else?
>>
>> --Lia
>
>Caffeine in tea is around half the level of caffeine in coffee overall I
>believe. I can't give you any info as to it's affect on sleep, since I
>can drink a triple espresso and then go right to sleep.

When I was young I was like that. Now caffeine makes me wired if I
have more than two cups. Forget about sleeping.

Lou

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?

I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep me up at
night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need it for keeping awake.

Serene
--
"I think I have an umami receptor that has developed sentience." -- Stef

Julia Altshuler > wrote in
:

> Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties?

Yes. Tea (or any liquid after 8PM) keeps me awake at night by forcing to
get up to go pee. Diuretics, like tea, are the worst.

Caffeine? Not so much, unless it's McRonald's coffee. I used to drink a
small one when I was on evening shift and invariably I would be unable to
sleep before 3AM. Not so with coffee I make at home, fairly strong but
from a dark roast.

Serene wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:45:54 -0700:

> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that my
>> inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>> else?

> I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep
> me up at night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need
> it for keeping awake.

Apart from the fact that Earl Grey is not usually allowed to stew for a
long time, it's got just as much caffeine available as any other black
tea. It's major distinction is that Oil of Bergamot is added to the
leaves (Bergamot is a kind of orange).
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm wondering
>if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does anyone here avoid
>tea at night because of its sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount
>so small that my inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>else?
>

Many teas have more caffeine than coffee.

Paul

James Silverton said...

> Serene wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:45:54 -0700:
>
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
>>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
>>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
>>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that my
>>> inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>>> else?
>
>> I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep
>> me up at night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need
>> it for keeping awake.
>
> Apart from the fact that Earl Grey is not usually allowed to stew for a
> long time, it's got just as much caffeine available as any other black
> tea. It's major distinction is that Oil of Bergamot is added to the
> leaves (Bergamot is a kind of orange).


That reminds me of Orange Pekoe. Strong good stuff!

I was told that tea had more caffeine than coffee back in my youth.

Except, I can safely say when it comes to drinking espresso coffee it's
another story!!!

Andy
Crepe/Espresso/Tea/Frappe/Cheesecake guy
in a chef's hat for a brief moment in time.

On Jul 10, 10:53*am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. *I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. *Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? *Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?

According to the Good Eats tea show, True Brew II, tea in general
doesn't contain as much caffiene as coffee and the poly-phenols in the
tea help what caffeine is there to absorb slowly into the system.
Near the end of this transcript:

http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Seaso...Transcript.htm

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?
>
>
> --Lia
>


I rarely drink hot tea, but I no longer drink iced tea after noon
because it definitely affects my sleep.

gloria p

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:15:30 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
...
>>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm wondering
>>if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does anyone here avoid
>>tea at night because of its sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount
>>so small that my inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>>else?
>>
>
>Many teas have more caffeine than coffee.

I've heard that too.

Lou

wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:26:10 -0700
(PDT):

> On Jul 10, 10:53 am, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>> I'm wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of
>> tea. Does anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that
>> my inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>> else?

> According to the Good Eats tea show, True Brew II, tea in
> general doesn't contain as much caffiene as coffee and the
> poly-phenols in the tea help what caffeine is there to absorb
> slowly into the system. Near the end of this transcript:

They *would* say so wouldn't they? As I mentioned previously, my British
army experience also makes me doubt it!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep last
> night must be due to something else?
>

They <?> say that coffee has quite a bit more caffeine than tea, but I
find that tea perks me up a lot more than coffee does. I rarely drink tea,
and especially not at night.

Wow. Thanks for all the good answers confirming what I was merely
guessing at.


I never grew to like coffee as a teenager and have never drunk it. I
prefer gingerale and sprite to caffienated sodas like coke. About the
only caffien I get regularly is from chocolate. Not liking coffee, I
long ago learned that when I'm in a social situation where everyone is
sitting around chatting and drinking coffee that I can join in by asking
for tea.


Which is what I did last night. A friend had me over for a friendly
evening of sewing. When offered, I accepted a mug of tea. I like it
weak, drank less than half the mug, was home by 9:00p and in bed by
11:00p. I didn't feel jittery awake; I just couldn't sleep. So I read,
watched t.v., tried to sleep again, and finally was able to sleep by
2:00a. The funny thing was that nothing felt different except that I
couldn't sleep. I wasn't in a bad mood or worried about anything. I
felt fine.


It wasn't until today that I wondered if the tea could be the culprit,
and y'all have confirmed that it could be. Since I get no caffien
otherwise, I wasn't watching out for its effects. Thanks.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep
> last night must be due to something else?

It varies greatly. I know someone who would be kept awake all night if
he drank more than one RC Cola, and someone who's not affected by
caffeine.

And it puts some people to sleep.

--
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"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm wondering
>if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does anyone here avoid
>tea at night because of its sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount
>so small that my inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>else?
>
>
> --Lia


Are you typically affected by caffeine? Myself, I am never kept awake by
caffeine drinks. My brother, on the other hand, can drink 1/2 a cup of
coffee and be jittery for hours.
Black teas have roughly half the caffeine of coffee. There are variances by
source, but that's average. If you are particularly sensitive to caffeine,
then it's possible it contributed to your restless night...on the other
hand, it may very well have been something else. Especially if you've
imbibed at or near bedtime before without problem.

kimberly

> Which is what I did last night. A friend had me over for a friendly
> evening of sewing. When offered, I accepted a mug of tea. I like it
> weak, drank less than half the mug, was home by 9:00p and in bed by
> 11:00p. I didn't feel jittery awake; I just couldn't sleep. So I read,
> watched t.v., tried to sleep again, and finally was able to sleep by
> 2:00a. The funny thing was that nothing felt different except that I
> couldn't sleep. I wasn't in a bad mood or worried about anything. I felt
> fine.
>
>
> It wasn't until today that I wondered if the tea could be the culprit, and
> y'all have confirmed that it could be. Since I get no caffien otherwise,
> I wasn't watching out for its effects. Thanks.
>
Lia,
If you don't regularly imbibe it will almost certainly affect you. Your
susceptibility dulls somewhat with use.

However, there are many fine decaffeinated and herbal teas on the market
that should be OK to drink before bed. I've pretty much given up any
caffeinated drinks other than my morning coffee for years now. I make decaf
ice tea year round which is the drink of choice at the dinner table. I use
half decaf 'regular' tea and half peppermint tea.

Jon

On Jul 10, 12:38*pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
> >I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.

For some reason, this bugs me. Most misspellings don't. -aem

Julia Altshuler wrote:

>
> Which is what I did last night. A friend had me over for a friendly
> evening of sewing. When offered, I accepted a mug of tea. I like it
> weak, drank less than half the mug, was home by 9:00p and in bed by
> 11:00p. I didn't feel jittery awake; I just couldn't sleep. So I read,
> watched t.v., tried to sleep again, and finally was able to sleep by
> 2:00a. The funny thing was that nothing felt different except that I
> couldn't sleep. I wasn't in a bad mood or worried about anything. I
> felt fine.
>
>
> It wasn't until today that I wondered if the tea could be the culprit,
> and y'all have confirmed that it could be. Since I get no caffien
> otherwise, I wasn't watching out for its effects. Thanks.
>

Next time ask for ice water.

;-)
gloria p

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> James Silverton said...
>
>> Serene wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:45:54 -0700:
>>
>>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
>>>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
>>>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
>>>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that my
>>>> inability to sleep last night must be due to something
>>>> else?
>>
>>> I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep
>>> me up at night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need
>>> it for keeping awake.
>>
>> Apart from the fact that Earl Grey is not usually allowed to stew for a
>> long time, it's got just as much caffeine available as any other black
>> tea. It's major distinction is that Oil of Bergamot is added to the
>> leaves (Bergamot is a kind of orange).
>
>
> That reminds me of Orange Pekoe. Strong good stuff!
>
> I was told that tea had more caffeine than coffee back in my youth.
>
> Except, I can safely say when it comes to drinking espresso coffee it's
> another story!!!

Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!

The UnInmate wrote:
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...

>> Except, I can safely say when it comes to drinking espresso coffee it's
>> another story!!!
>
> Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!
>
Well, it can't hurt that you only drink it in little shots at that...

"The UnInmate" wrote:
> "Andy" wrote:
> > James Silverton said...
> >> �Serene �wrote:
> >>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >>>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. �I'm
> >>>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. �Does
> >>>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
> >>>> sleep preventing properties? �Or is the amount so small that my
> >>>> inability to sleep last night must be due to something
> >>>> else?
>
> >>> I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep
> >>> me up at night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need
> >>> it for keeping awake.
>
> >> Apart from the fact that Earl Grey is not usually allowed �to stew for a
> >> long time, it's got just as much caffeine available as any other black
> >> tea. It's major distinction is that Oil of Bergamot is added to the
> >> leaves (Bergamot is a kind of orange).
>
> > That reminds me of Orange Pekoe. Strong good stuff!
>
> > I was told that tea had more caffeine than coffee back in my youth.
>
> > Except, I can safely say when it comes to drinking espresso coffee it's
> > another story!!!
>
> Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!

Not true. Espresso is simply a different roast... ounce for ounce it
contains the same caffeine. And there is South American coffee but
there is no such thing as North American coffee... you really believe
that Juan Valdez grew his coffee in the mountains of Appalachia.

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its sleep preventing
> properties? Or is the amount so small that my inability to sleep
> last night must be due to something else?

Brewed regular tea has about 40-60 mgs of caffeine per cup (depending
on type and brewing method). That's about the same as a 12oz can of
soda, and about half that of a cup of coffee.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

aem wrote:
> "Nexis" wrote:
> > "Julia Altshuler" wrote:
>
> > >I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>
> For some reason, this bugs me. �Most misspellings don't. � �-aem

Sentence fragments and superfluous commas bug me far more than obvious
typos.

aem wrote:
> On Jul 10, 12:38 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message

>>>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>
>
> For some reason, this bugs me. Most misspellings don't.


My American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, kept by my
computer, lists both caffeine and caffein as acceptable spellings. I
remembered that. Then I went and screwed up the "i before e except
after c" exception. (I got Earl Grey right (not gray). Do I get points
for that?) (And I'm one of the rare people on the list who usually gets
its/it's correct. I think I deserve bonus points.)


--Lia

Nexis wrote:
>
> Are you typically affected by caffeine? Myself, I am never kept awake by
> caffeine drinks. My brother, on the other hand, can drink 1/2 a cup of
> coffee and be jittery for hours.
> Black teas have roughly half the caffeine of coffee. There are variances by
> source, but that's average. If you are particularly sensitive to caffeine,
> then it's possible it contributed to your restless night...on the other
> hand, it may very well have been something else. Especially if you've
> imbibed at or near bedtime before without problem.


Typically, I don't know. You're talking to someone who gets so little
caffein normally that she hasn't experimented to know how it effects
her. I could be especially sensitive.


--Lia

On Jul 10, 2:43*pm, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> aem wrote:
> > On Jul 10, 12:38 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
> >>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
> >>>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>
> > For some reason, this bugs me. *Most misspellings don't.
>
> My American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, kept by my
> computer, lists both caffeine and caffein as acceptable spellings. *I
> remembered that. *Then I went and screwed up the "i before e except
> after c" exception. *(I got Earl Grey right (not gray). *Do I get points
> for that?) *(And I'm one of the rare people on the list who usually gets
> its/it's correct. *I think I deserve bonus points.)
>
Anyone who keeps a real dictionary by the machine deserves bonus
points just for that. -aem

aem wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:47:40 -0700 (PDT):

> On Jul 10, 2:43 pm, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
>> aem wrote:
> >> On Jul 10, 12:38 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>
> >>> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in
> >>> message
> >>>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in
> >>>> it.
>>
> >> For some reason, this bugs me. Most misspellings don't.
>>
>> My American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, kept
>> by my computer, lists both caffeine and caffein as acceptable
>> spellings. I remembered that. Then I went and screwed up
>> the "i before e except after c" exception. (I got Earl Grey
>> right (not gray). Do I get points for that?) (And I'm one
>> of the rare people on the list who usually gets its/it's
>> correct. I think I deserve bonus points.)
>>

That presupposes that the Am. Herit. dictionary is a *real* dictionary!
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Thu 10 Jul 2008 02:43:10p, Julia Altshuler told us...

> aem wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 12:38 pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>
>>>"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
>
>>>>I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it.
>>
>>
>> For some reason, this bugs me. Most misspellings don't.
>
>
> My American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, kept by my
> computer, lists both caffeine and caffein as acceptable spellings. I
> remembered that. Then I went and screwed up the "i before e except
> after c" exception. (I got Earl Grey right (not gray). Do I get points
> for that?) (And I'm one of the rare people on the list who usually gets
> its/it's correct. I think I deserve bonus points.)
>
>
> --Lia
>
>

You get points for Earl Grey because it's my veryt favorite. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
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disappointed. A pessimist only
receives *pleasant* surprises.
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Sheldon wrote:
>
> "The UnInmate" wrote:
> >
> > Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!
>
> Not true. Espresso is simply a different roast... ounce for ounce it

It's a different grind -- much smaller particles.
It's also a different brewing method -- the water
is shot through the "puck" of ground coffee within
a few seconds, unlike the longer brewing time for
conventional coffee. I haven't seen statistics on
the caffeine content of espresso vs. conventional
coffee, but it certainly could be lower in espresso
due to the shorter extraction time.

> contains the same caffeine. And there is South American coffee but
> there is no such thing as North American coffee... you really believe
> that Juan Valdez grew his coffee in the mountains of Appalachia.

Mexico is part of the North American continent,
and they are within the top ten coffee-producing
nations of the world.

http://www.ico.org/prices/po.htm

On 2008-07-10, Mark Thorson > wrote:

> the caffeine content of espresso vs. conventional
> coffee, but it certainly could be lower in espresso
> due to the shorter extraction time.

It is, even though proper espresso extraction is about 25-30 secs. Most of
an espresso blend is arabica beans versus robusta beans which are typcially
used in pedestrian coffees and are much higher in caffeine. I get a serious
buzz off a charbucks venti.

nb

notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-10, Mark Thorson > wrote:

>> the caffeine content of espresso vs. conventional
>> coffee, but it certainly could be lower in espresso
>> due to the shorter extraction time.

>It is, even though proper espresso extraction is about 25-30 secs. Most of
>an espresso blend is arabica beans versus robusta beans which are typcially
>used in pedestrian coffees and are much higher in caffeine. I get a serious
>buzz off a charbucks venti.

This is a difficult comparison, because there are at least
three variables: how much caffeine is in a given weight of coffee
before it is brewed; how much brewed liquid is yielded from
a given weight of ground coffee; and how many ounces of
liquid comprise a coffee drink.

Some say dark roasting removes some caffeine, and a shot of espresso
is made from about 0.4 ounces of ground coffee rather than the 0.8
ounces or so used to brew a cup of filter coffee. So it's got
to be true a single shot of espresso has less caffeine than
an average cup of coffee, unless the latter is brewed weak.


Steve

On 2008-07-10, James Silverton > wrote:

> That presupposes that the Am. Herit. dictionary is a *real* dictionary!

More so than Mirriam-Webster or Oxford, which is still too prudish to
include words like shit or to stupid to include foreign phrases like jene sa
quoi. AHD has for years.

nb

On 2008-07-10, Steve Pope > wrote:

> to be true a single shot of espresso has less caffeine than
> an average cup of coffee, unless the latter is brewed weak.

Now you are introducing extra variables. It's a known fact robustas have
more caffeine the arabicas. You wanna really throw a wrench in the
argument, lets include Lipton's instant tea. Holy crap! ...for a venti
sized glass, that stuff flat gets me wired. The only reason I don't use it
to keep me awake instead of coffee is cuz it makes me pee every 10 mins.

nb

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:11:27 -0700 (PDT), Sheldon
> wrote:

>> Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!
>
>Not true. Espresso is simply a different roast... ounce for ounce it
>contains the same caffeine.

Hi Sheldon,

Caffeine is one of relatively few compounds that has a
solubility that decreases with heat and pressure.

Espresso is not simply "a different roast." It is a method
of extraction. And, espresso does, indeed, have less
caffeine by volume than does coffee made by other methods.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

In article >,
"The UnInmate" > wrote:

> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> > James Silverton said...
> >
> >> Serene wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:45:54 -0700:
> >>
> >>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >>>> I know that Earl Grey tea has some amount of caffien in it. I'm
> >>>> wondering if anyone has ever been kept awake by a cup of tea. Does
> >>>> anyone here avoid tea at night because of its
> >>>> sleep preventing properties? Or is the amount so small that my
> >>>> inability to sleep last night must be due to something
> >>>> else?
> >>
> >>> I'm very susceptible to caffeine. Half a cup of tea can keep
> >>> me up at night. I don't do caffeine these days unless I need
> >>> it for keeping awake.
> >>
> >> Apart from the fact that Earl Grey is not usually allowed to stew for a
> >> long time, it's got just as much caffeine available as any other black
> >> tea. It's major distinction is that Oil of Bergamot is added to the
> >> leaves (Bergamot is a kind of orange).
> >
> >
> > That reminds me of Orange Pekoe. Strong good stuff!
> >
> > I was told that tea had more caffeine than coffee back in my youth.
> >
> > Except, I can safely say when it comes to drinking espresso coffee it's
> > another story!!!
>
> Espresso has less caffeine than North American coffee. Strange but true!


According to:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

A six ounce cup of regular coffee has 71mg of caffeine, whereas a six
ounce cup of expresso has 382mg of caffeine.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-07-10, James Silverton > wrote:
>
>> That presupposes that the Am. Herit. dictionary is a *real*
>> dictionary!
>
> More so than Mirriam-Webster or Oxford, which is still too prudish to
> include words like shit or to stupid to include foreign phrases like
> jene sa quoi. AHD has for years.

I have lots of dictionaries, I love them. I got a new one for
Christmas one year, the very first word I looked up, a common
word, was not in there. AHD. Lots of pictures, though. It's
downstairs on a shelf somewhere.

nancy