They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
give her to keep the hairballs at bay.

Ms P

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...

> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>
> Ms P

I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address.
Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
benefits from time to time.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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5wks 1dys 14hrs 20mins
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You took my breath away and now I want
it back.
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>
> > They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
> > give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
> >
> > Ms P
>
> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address.
> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
> benefits from time to time.

I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't
missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to
give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's
all dropped their store cards as well.

"Pete C." > wrote

> I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't
> missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to
> give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's
> all dropped their store cards as well.

My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them
getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
news
>
> "Pete C." > wrote
>
>> I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't
>> missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to
>> give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's
>> all dropped their store cards as well.
>
> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them
> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will.


I have a card and use it every time I go.

Paul

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote
>
> > I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't
> > missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to
> > give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's
> > all dropped their store cards as well.
>
> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them
> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will.
>
> nancy

Interesting, here the two Albertsons I frequent both dropped the cards,
and they have little promo signs around that say "No cards - No hassles"
or something like that. I expected it was a corporate thing and covered
all of them.

"Pete C." > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them
>> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will.

> Interesting, here the two Albertsons I frequent both dropped the cards,
> and they have little promo signs around that say "No cards - No hassles"
> or something like that. I expected it was a corporate thing and covered
> all of them.

I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains
around here that do not have a card. Every single one does.
Even the drug stores.

But when I was in Florida a couple months ago, we stopped at
a Publix ... I picked up some stuff and stopped at the customer
counter to sign up for a card so I would get the sale price. I'd
like to sign up for a card? Huh? You mean a college card? Snicker,
no, that wouldn't be the one. Oh, we don't have cards.

Didn't I feel silly. Heh.

nancy

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 02:00:07p, Nancy Young told us...

>
> "Pete C." > wrote
>
>> I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't
>> missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to
>> give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's
>> all dropped their store cards as well.
>
> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them
> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will.
>
> nancy
>
>

Perhaps a regional thing, Nancy. They gave up the card here in Arizona
last year.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
5wks 1dys 5hrs 50mins
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A girl and a boy bump into each other
-- surely an accident. A girl and a
boy bump and her handkerchief drops --
surely another accident!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>
>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address.
> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
> benefits from time to time.
>
I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card
thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of
purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only
valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste!

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 10:50:08a, Goomba38 told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>
>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>> I give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>> address. Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's
>> definitely had its benefits from time to time.
>>
> I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card
> thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of
> purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only
> valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste!
>

Whenever I get a "dolars off" coupon from Fry's, be it $3, $5, and
sometimes even $10, I make damn sure I don't go past the expirationd date.
I can't afford not to.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
5wks 1dys 13hrs 10mins
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CAT RULE #8: Add roughage to human's
food by shedding on it.
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Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
> >
> >> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
> >> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
> >>
> >> Ms P
> >
> > I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address.
> > Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
> > benefits from time to time.
> >
> I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card
> thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of
> purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only
> valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste!

I often get coupons like that from the coupon printer at the checkout.

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card
> thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of
> purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only
> valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste!

I have one of those key chain fobs, the old Grand Union in town issues
them. They scan the card before scanning my order and` I get some
pretty good discounts. That card also gives me a 6pct senior discont
off my entire order on Wednesdays. I really don't care if they have
my address, it's such a small town that everyone in town knows where
everyone lives anyway. Do I really think the Grand Union manager is
going to race me to my driveway and mug me for my groceries.

Sheldon wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>>
>> I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob
>> card thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain
>> amount of purchase but they often expire before I think to use them!
>> They're only valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste!
>
> I have one of those key chain fobs, the old Grand Union in town issues
> them. They scan the card before scanning my order and` I get some
> pretty good discounts. That card also gives me a 6pct senior discont
> off my entire order on Wednesdays. I really don't care if they have
> my address, it's such a small town that everyone in town knows where
> everyone lives anyway. Do I really think the Grand Union manager is
> going to race me to my driveway and mug me for my groceries.
>
LOL no, but he might sneak over in the middle of the night in the summer and
forage in your garden

Jill

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>
>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
> address.
> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
> benefits from time to time.


I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. Now
what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely keep
a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it.

I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the form
to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway.
They have to provide it.

I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
what they know about you.

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:

>
> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. Now
> what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely keep
> a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it.
>
> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the form
> to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway.
> They have to provide it.

I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a
few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to
issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my
driver's license.

It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a
market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb
or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the
bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy.


>
> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
> what they know about you.
>
> Paul
>
>
Agree, you don't realize how much information is amassed on everyone
until you see "behind the curtain".

"George" > wrote in message
...
> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>>
>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>> money for it.
>>
>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>
> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
> to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a
> few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to
> issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my
> driver's license.
>

You can state that there is a federal law prohibiting them from doing this.
They have no right to demand your ID. Period. You can legally write down
that your name is Jose Cuervo or Jim Beam and make up a fake ID number.
They cannot ask you for your ID. They can only ask to see proof of ID if
you are writing a check and then it can only be a bank card with your name
on it. When I got my Albertson's card, I simply got the card and the app,
said I'd bring the app back next time, they said no, I said I am entitled to
do that and they said OK. So I have an anonymous card.

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "George" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>>> money for it.
>>>
>>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
>> to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a
>> few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to
>> issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my
>> driver's license.
>>
>
> You can state that there is a federal law prohibiting them from doing this.
> They have no right to demand your ID. Period. You can legally write down
> that your name is Jose Cuervo or Jim Beam and make up a fake ID number.
> They cannot ask you for your ID. They can only ask to see proof of ID if
> you are writing a check and then it can only be a bank card with your name
> on it. When I got my Albertson's card, I simply got the card and the app,
> said I'd bring the app back next time, they said no, I said I am entitled to
> do that and they said OK. So I have an anonymous card.
>
> Paul
>
>
I can't imagine what federal law might apply. Does it have something to
do with discrimination or something like that?

George wrote:

> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>
>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>> money for it.
>>
>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>
> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
> to you if you decline to give them your information.

I doubt that they have to. I think when they do it's simply to keep from
****ing off a customer (remember the "customer is always right" bullshit),
even it's one they can't identify; even an anonymous customer's money is
money.

> I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded
> identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when
> I refused to give them my driver's license.

Seems like that's their right; it's their program -- their offer to give
you reduced prices. Same idea as Coscto: Want this? Trade us for that.
In the cases at hand, it's information. In the Costco case, it's that
information *and cash*. If one's afraid of the grocery club card idea,
they should also be refusing to be a Costco member; but most probably
don't think that far into the idea.


--
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
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"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
news
> George wrote:
>
>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>>> money for it.
>>>
>>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>>
>> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
>> to you if you decline to give them your information.
>
> I doubt that they have to. I think when they do it's simply to keep from
> ****ing off a customer (remember the "customer is always right" bullshit),
> even it's one they can't identify; even an anonymous customer's money is
> money.
>
>> I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded
>> identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when
>> I refused to give them my driver's license.
>
> Seems like that's their right; it's their program -- their offer to give
> you reduced prices. Same idea as Coscto: Want this? Trade us for that.
> In the cases at hand, it's information. In the Costco case, it's that
> information *and cash*. If one's afraid of the grocery club card idea,
> they should also be refusing to be a Costco member; but most probably
> don't think that far into the idea.


Last I heard they wanted to merge their ATM purchase records with your club
card purchases. That way they could attach a person to the purchase. So
they get you one way or another. But trust me, they want that info and you
have to wonder why.

Paul

George > wrote:

> It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a
> market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb
> or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the
> bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy.

We have one store in town that uses the cards (the other went out of
business). While I'm using a card I found out in the parking lot
that does not print a name on the receipt, they are getting valuable
feedback from my use of the card:

That I spend less than $60/year there and think their store sucks.
The rest of my shopping is done at a real store.

BTW: All research shows that you pay *more* for groceries at a
Loyalty Card store. These programs are not free to initiate and
maintain. The ROI by selling your spending habits to marketers is
never reflected back into the price of your groceries. Even with
the $.21 worth of cat food.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> George > wrote:
>
>> It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a
>> market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb
>> or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the
>> bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy.
>
> We have one store in town that uses the cards (the other went out of
> business). While I'm using a card I found out in the parking lot
> that does not print a name on the receipt, they are getting valuable
> feedback from my use of the card:
>
> That I spend less than $60/year there and think their store sucks.
> The rest of my shopping is done at a real store.
>
> BTW: All research shows that you pay *more* for groceries at a
> Loyalty Card store. These programs are not free to initiate and
> maintain. The ROI by selling your spending habits to marketers is
> never reflected back into the price of your groceries. Even with
> the $.21 worth of cat food.
>
> -sw
The only reason I even tried to apply is that the one place is close by.
It used to be part of a small group of stores owned by a local family.
They sold out to a big box outfit and one of the new features was the
purchase tracking ID card. Their prices aren't good anymore and now a
lot of their meat is the walmart style embalmed "fresh" meat. I did
mention to the manager why he lost our business so now we only purchase
the occasional jug of milk.

In article >,
George > wrote:


> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
> to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a
> few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to
> issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my
> driver's license.

I can understand them being adamant if it is also used as a check
cashing card. I have a Safeway loyalty card and they don't require
anything. They suggest furnishing a phone number, since they use that
as an alternate ID if you don't have your card with you. Since I have
lost my card, I just key in my phone number. They don't have my name or
address.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>
>> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card
>> to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a
>> few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to
>> issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my
>> driver's license.
>
> I can understand them being adamant if it is also used as a check
> cashing card. I have a Safeway loyalty card and they don't require
> anything. They suggest furnishing a phone number, since they use that
> as an alternate ID if you don't have your card with you. Since I have
> lost my card, I just key in my phone number. They don't have my name or
> address.
>
This wasn't for any sort of check cashing privileges because I
specifically asked that. They insisted on getting my driver's license.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03...
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>
>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>> address.
>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>> benefits from time to time.
>
>
> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
> money for it.
>
> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
> anyway. They have to provide it.
>
> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
> what they know about you.
>
> Paul


Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means they
could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food.

They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for things
like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats.

Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might as
well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use.

Ms P

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03...
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 3.184...
>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>>
>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>>> I
>>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>>> address.
>>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>>> benefits from time to time.
>>
>>
>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>> money for it.
>>
>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>>
>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
>> what they know about you.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means
> they could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food.
>
> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for
> things like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats.
>
> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might
> as well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use.


What you are seeing more and more of is data mining. Stores have a huge
record of your purchases. What I fear is when they start supplying this
info to say, insurance companies. They can use that as a basis for
coverage when you are a cardiac patient and they see you buy a lot of
butter.

And before it gets written off as a CT, think of how banks, credit agencies
and medical insures now all share common databases. Some people are being
denied health care becaiuse of their less than perfect income levels and
credit scores, presumably because they don't eat well either.

One reason I don't do that work anymore is because it just made me ill
thinking of the potential for abuse.

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03...
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>>>
>>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>>>> I
>>>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms P
>>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>>>> address.
>>>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>>>> benefits from time to time.
>>>
>>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
>>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
>>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
>>> money for it.
>>>
>>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
>>> anyway. They have to provide it.
>>>
>>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
>>> what they know about you.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means
>> they could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food.
>>
>> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for
>> things like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats.
>>
>> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might
>> as well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use.
>
>
> What you are seeing more and more of is data mining. Stores have a huge
> record of your purchases. What I fear is when they start supplying this
> info to say, insurance companies. They can use that as a basis for
> coverage when you are a cardiac patient and they see you buy a lot of
> butter.
>
> And before it gets written off as a CT, think of how banks, credit agencies
> and medical insures now all share common databases. Some people are being
> denied health care becaiuse of their less than perfect income levels and
> credit scores, presumably because they don't eat well either.
>
> One reason I don't do that work anymore is because it just made me ill
> thinking of the potential for abuse.
>
> Paul
>
>
Have a look at this "fusion center" doew sound nicer than "big brother":

http://it.ojp.gov/documents/fusion_c...nforcement.pdf

Ms wrote on Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:03:00 -0500:


MP> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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??>> in message
3.184...
??>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
??>>>
??>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to
??>>>> the same kind I give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
??>>>>
??>>>> Ms P
??>>>
??>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as
??>>> my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I
??>>> don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from
??>>> time to time.
??>>
??>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I
??>> helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I
??>> do not know but they most definitely keep a history of
??>> everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
??>> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot
??>> of money for it.
??>>
??>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to
??>> fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you
??>> won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide
??>> it.
??>>
??>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it
??>> is pretty scary what they know about you.
??>>
??>> Paul

MP> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag.
MP> That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina
MP> dry cat food.

MP> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted
MP> coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off
MP> frozen foods and meats.

MP> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it
MP> or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you
MP> you're actually likely to use.

The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need
the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I
try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting
how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices
are worthwhile.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton > wrote:

> The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need
> the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I
> try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting
> how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices
> are worthwhile.

And other non-card stores have the same sales, and at lower prices
on average.

The stores want you to show the card at every visit, so they switch
'sales' around so that something you buy will be attached to a
loyalty card discount.

-sw

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 06:09:30p, James Silverton told us...

> Ms wrote on Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:03:00 -0500:
>
>
> MP> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> MP> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03...
> ??>>
> ??>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote
> ??>> in message
> 3.184...
> ??>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
> ??>>>
> ??>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to
> ??>>>> the same kind I give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
> ??>>>>
> ??>>>> Ms P
> ??>>>
> ??>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as
> ??>>> my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I
> ??>>> don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from
> ??>>> time to time.
> ??>>
> ??>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I
> ??>> helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I
> ??>> do not know but they most definitely keep a history of
> ??>> everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
> ??>> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot
> ??>> of money for it.
> ??>>
> ??>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to
> ??>> fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you
> ??>> won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide
> ??>> it.
> ??>>
> ??>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it
> ??>> is pretty scary what they know about you.
> ??>>
> ??>> Paul
>
> MP> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag.
> MP> That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina
> MP> dry cat food.
>
> MP> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted
> MP> coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off
> MP> frozen foods and meats.
>
> MP> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it
> MP> or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you
> MP> you're actually likely to use.
>
> The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need
> the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I
> try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting
> how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices
> are worthwhile.

That's very true, at least around here. We made the shopping rounds today
at Safeway, Fry's, and Basha's (local, but also uses a card). We saved
over $75 at one place, over $45 at another, and $27 and some odd cents at
the third. In my mind, it just doesn't make sense not to use them. The
only chain in greater Phoenix that doesn't use a card is Albertson's, and
it's also my least favorite store to shop in, even when they used the card.

> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> E-mail, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>
>



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
5wks 1dys 5hrs 30mins
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Pessimism means never having to be
disappointed. A pessimist only
receives *pleasant* surprises.
-------------------------------------------

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:09:30 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Ms wrote on Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:03:00 -0500:
>
>
> MP> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> MP> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03...
> ??>>
> ??>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote
> ??>> in message
73.184...
> ??>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
> ??>>>
> ??>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to
> ??>>>> the same kind I give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
> ??>>>>
> ??>>>> Ms P
> ??>>>
> ??>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as
> ??>>> my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I
> ??>>> don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from
> ??>>> time to time.
> ??>>
> ??>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I
> ??>> helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I
> ??>> do not know but they most definitely keep a history of
> ??>> everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
> ??>> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot
> ??>> of money for it.
> ??>>
> ??>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to
> ??>> fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you
> ??>> won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide
> ??>> it.
> ??>>
> ??>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it
> ??>> is pretty scary what they know about you.
> ??>>
> ??>> Paul
>
> MP> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag.
> MP> That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina
> MP> dry cat food.
>
> MP> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted
> MP> coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off
> MP> frozen foods and meats.
>
> MP> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it
> MP> or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you
> MP> you're actually likely to use.
>
>The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need
>the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I
>try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting
>how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices
>are worthwhile.
>
>
>James Silverton

i have the giant card and use it. sometimes the savings are illusory,
sometimes quite real.

your pal,
blake

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 02:48:07p, Paul M. Cook told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>
>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>> I give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>> address. Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's
>> definitely had its benefits from time to time.
>
>
> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most
> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too.
> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of
> money for it.

I don't really care if they do.

> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card
> anyway. They have to provide it.
>
> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
> what they know about you.

:-) I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
Countdown till Memorial Day
5wks 1dys 5hrs 50mins
-------------------------------------------
A girl and a boy bump into each other
-- surely an accident. A girl and a
boy bump and her handkerchief drops --
surely another accident!

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits.

It's attitudes like this that the government uses to gradually rip
away our personal freedoms.

How would you feel if They wanted to put cameras in your bedroom?
You have nothing to hide there, either. Where do you draw the line?

-sw

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:00:43 GMT, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits.
>
>It's attitudes like this that the government uses to gradually rip
>away our personal freedoms.
>
>How would you feel if They wanted to put cameras in your bedroom?
>You have nothing to hide there, either. Where do you draw the line?
>
>-sw

outside the grocery store.

your pal,
blake

On Sat 19 Apr 2008 07:00:43p, Sqwertz told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits.
>
> It's attitudes like this that the government uses to gradually rip
> away our personal freedoms.

And exactly what does the governmen have to do with supermarket store
cards? You're such a ****ing idiot. I wasn't talking about the
government, only store discount cards. The information they ask for is
hardly that confidential in the first place.

> How would you feel if They wanted to put cameras in your bedroom?
> You have nothing to hide there, either. Where do you draw the line?

Across your face!



--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Sunday, 04(IV)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
Countdown till Memorial Day
5wks 14hrs 55mins
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Walk in shadow, walk in dread,
Loosefish walk as like one dead
-------------------------------------------

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:48:07 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
73.184...
>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>
>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>> address.
>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>> benefits from time to time.
>
>
>I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. Now
>what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely keep
>a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
>valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it.
>
>I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the form
>to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway.
>They have to provide it.
>
>I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
>what they know about you.
>
>Paul
>

yes. god forbid they know i buy store-brand toilet paper.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:48:07 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 173.184...
>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>>
>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>>> I
>>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>>> address.
>>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>>> benefits from time to time.
>>
>>
>>I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>>Now
>>what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely
>>keep
>>a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
>>valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it.
>>
>>I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>>form
>>to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway.
>>They have to provide it.
>>
>>I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
>>what they know about you.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>
> yes. god forbid they know i buy store-brand toilet paper.


What if you smoked and your insurance company wanted to know if you lied on
your application? What if you had diabetes and you bought a lot of candy?

Regardless, if advertisers want demographic data on me, and they are willing
to pay a fortune to a store to get it, they can just bloody well pay me.

But your response is quite typical. Studies show most people do not value
personal privacy. It is one reason nobody is stewing much about heir phones
being tapped for the last 8 years.

Paul

Paul M. Cook wrote:

> What if you smoked and your insurance company wanted to know if you lied on
> your application? What if you had diabetes and you bought a lot of candy?
>

Insurance companies often do blood tests during insurance physicals to
determine if you smoke or not.
I often have patients tell me they gave up smoking/drinking/drugs...yet
their blood tests reveal otherwise. They consider being in the hospital
"having quit" but I suspect that really just means "unable to at this time"

In article <N_JOj.1599$pn4.1084@trnddc03>,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...

> > yes. god forbid they know i buy store-brand toilet paper.
>

But they only know that you *bought* it. Maybe the toilet paper you
actually use is stolen, and you just use the store brand for rolling
joints.

> What if you smoked and your insurance company wanted to know if you lied on
> your application?

I used to buy sanitary napkins. Does that make me a woman? Or was I
just a husband who bought things for the family? My sister buys
sanitary napkins also. She is beyond the age of using them. She has a
little strap that she puts on a male dog so when he pees while she is
gone, it goes in the pad and not on the rug.

> What if you had diabetes and you bought a lot of candy?

What if I had small children who could have candy? Besides, the
nutritionists say that sugar by itself is no longer relevant for
diabetics.

> But your response is quite typical. Studies show most people do not value
> personal privacy.

If people want to know what I buy at the store, they are welcome to
watch me shop. I couldn't stop them if I wanted to.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:15:41 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:48:07 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.173.184...
>>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
>>>>
>>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind
>>>>> I
>>>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms P
>>>>
>>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet
>>>> address.
>>>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its
>>>> benefits from time to time.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it.
>>>Now
>>>what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely
>>>keep
>>>a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely
>>>valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it.
>>>
>>>I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the
>>>form
>>>to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway.
>>>They have to provide it.
>>>
>>>I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary
>>>what they know about you.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>
>> yes. god forbid they know i buy store-brand toilet paper.
>
>
>What if you smoked and your insurance company wanted to know if you lied on
>your application? What if you had diabetes and you bought a lot of candy?
>
>Regardless, if advertisers want demographic data on me, and they are willing
>to pay a fortune to a store to get it, they can just bloody well pay me.
>
>But your response is quite typical. Studies show most people do not value
>personal privacy. It is one reason nobody is stewing much about heir phones
>being tapped for the last 8 years.
>
>Paul
>

if you can show me a cite for grocery stores sharing their information
with insurance companies, i would be very interested. otherwise, i'll
put it down to general paranoia.

i don't buy cigarettes, liquor, or beer at the grocery anyway. and
there's no sense in saying i'm not interested in privacy because i
don't care if the grocery store *where i'm buying toilet paper* knows
what kind of toilet paper it is.

your pal,
blake

Ms P > wrote:

> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
> give her to keep the hairballs at bay.

So how is the grocery store selling your address and buying habits
to marketers an advantage?

I'd bet it wasn't the grocery store that sent you that sample of cat
food.

(And how do you know it's close to the same stuff you currently buy
- did you taste them?)

-sw