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Rosie Miller 23-10-2003 10:57 PM

Way OT
 
>Subject: Way OT
>From: Dog3
>Date: 10/23/2003 3:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>I don't know if I posted this already and I apologize if it's a duplicate.
>One of the strangest auctions I've seen in ages.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=19 27
>0
> thanks, interesting , but waaayyy beyond strange. Rosie



Jack Schidt® 23-10-2003 11:06 PM

Way OT
 

"Dog3" > wrote in message
03...
> I don't know if I posted this already and I apologize if it's a duplicate.
> One of the strangest auctions I've seen in ages.
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=19 27
> 0



My friend had one of those. They make good coolers for beverages.

Jack Igloo



Greykits 23-10-2003 11:12 PM

Way OT
 
>>Subject: Way OT
>>From: Dog3
>>Date: 10/23/2003 3:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>I don't know if I posted this already and I apologize if it's a duplicate.
>>One of the strangest auctions I've seen in ages.
>>
>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=19 27
>>0
>> thanks, interesting , but waaayyy beyond strange. Rosie

>
>

That is very odd. I once saw an old child's coffin at an antique store. There
was a glass area where the face would show through the lid - really gave me the
creeps!

For years my parents had a gravestone in their backyard, stolen by one of my
siblings who won't be named. It always bothered my mother and I don't know
what became of it, I just know it isn't there anymore. I still remember the
person's name, and that she died in 1820.

Happy Halloween!


rharps.com

jmcquown 25-10-2003 12:07 AM

Way OT
 
Dog3 wrote:
> I don't know if I posted this already and I apologize if it's a
> duplicate. One of the strangest auctions I've seen in ages.
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=19 27
>

Creepy item, for sure. Now they have the renovated funeral home itself up
for auction.

Jill



jmcquown 26-02-2005 11:38 AM

Dog3 wrote:
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>
> Michael


Cancel all your credit cards, immediately. Have them close your account,
transfer your balances and issue new ones. Document everything. Identity
theft is not a joke.

Jill



Nancy Young 26-02-2005 02:04 PM


"Dog3" > wrote in message
1...
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.


Michael, you just can't catch a break, can you??? You'd better order your
credit
report pronto.

nancy



The Joneses 26-02-2005 02:20 PM

Dog3 wrote:

> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>
> Michael


I used to live in Omaha and the best Chinese was at King Fong's downtown.
The egg foo young was fab. All things are connected...
Edrena



TheAlligator 26-02-2005 02:33 PM

Dog3 > wrote:

>Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
>number.

My sympathies, Michael. I'm afraid you're in for a long, bumpy ride.

limey 26-02-2005 03:40 PM


"Dog3" wrote in message >
Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Michael


There was a news item on national TV night before last about identity theft.
They stated that the first move should be documenting it with police. Also,
as others have said, notify all credit card companies. Put everything in
writing. Good luck, Michael - what a rotten deal.

Dora



jmcquown 26-02-2005 04:04 PM

Dog3 wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Dog3 wrote:
>>> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
>>> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a
>>> car accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not
>>> much luck there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>>>
>>> Ob Food::
>>>
>>> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>>>
>>> Michael

>>
>> Cancel all your credit cards, immediately. Have them close your
>> account, transfer your balances and issue new ones. Document
>> everything. Identity theft is not a joke.
>>
>> Jill

>
> I'm not worried about credit cards. My checking account is my concern.
> I have talked the bank about the cards and checking. Now I'm getting
> ****ed. What is he/she doing with my credit??
>
>
> Michael <- having plain scrambled eggs and toast with bacon


Good thing you contacted the bank.

Jill <--biscuits and sawmill gravy



Tony P. 26-02-2005 05:34 PM

In article > , uhoh@ajfl
says...
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.


Thank ChoicePoint for that one. I'm sorry but the whole mess of the
credit bureaus should be thrown out. They are full of security holes.

> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.


Had this overly salted food that the SO brought home. Ich!

Gregory Morrow 26-02-2005 07:00 PM


Jill wrote:

> Jill <--biscuits and sawmill gravy



Ok...what is sawmill gravy? I'm always looking for new gravy recipes...

--
Best
Greg




jmcquown 26-02-2005 07:02 PM

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Jill wrote:
>
>> Jill <--biscuits and sawmill gravy

>
>
> Ok...what is sawmill gravy? I'm always looking for new gravy
> recipes...


Plain ol' country white gravy with lots of pepper but no sausage :)

Jill



Gregory Morrow 26-02-2005 07:03 PM


Nancy Young wrote:

> Michael, you just can't catch a break, can you??? You'd better order your
> credit
> report pronto.



I'd try to check whatever criminal databases I could too, there is a trend
for some miscreants when involved with illegal activities to use someone
else's ID when caught by the police...

--
Best
Greg




Gregory Morrow 26-02-2005 07:06 PM


jmcquown wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Jill wrote:
> >
> >> Jill <--biscuits and sawmill gravy

> >
> >
> > Ok...what is sawmill gravy? I'm always looking for new gravy
> > recipes...

>
> Plain ol' country white gravy with lots of pepper but no sausage :)



Ah yes, a well - loved classic...thanks!

BTW Jill here is a "best of" Quad Cities restos, thought you might find it
interesting:

http://www.rcreader.com/display_arti...x=1&artid=2170

--
Best
Greg



jmcquown 26-02-2005 07:19 PM

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> Jill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jill <--biscuits and sawmill gravy
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok...what is sawmill gravy? I'm always looking for new gravy
>>> recipes...

>>
>> Plain ol' country white gravy with lots of pepper but no sausage :)

>
>
> Ah yes, a well - loved classic...thanks!
>
> BTW Jill here is a "best of" Quad Cities restos, thought you might
> find it interesting:
>
> http://www.rcreader.com/display_arti...x=1&artid=2170


Thanks! I'm surprised The Boat Dock (I think that's what it was called) in
Davenport wasn't mentioned. The food was fantastic; the deck overlooking
the Mississippi was the perfect dining spot. Uh, they can keep Ross' for
breakfast; that's the place that served "Rossburger meat" LOL The servers
looked and acted like they'd been there for 200 years. The Village Inn did
a much nicer breakfast :) Trattoria Tiramisu didn't make the list either,
unless the name has changed.

Jill



Ruddell 26-02-2005 07:57 PM

In > Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
> Dog3 >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
>>Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
>>number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
>>accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
>>there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.

>
> Have you checked your credit rating recently? :(


Good grief! There's really no telling what could have happened. Maybe
that car in Nebraska is financed!


>>Ob Food::
>>
>>The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.

>
> I had reuben sandwiches, which I thoroughly enjoyed.


Don't laugh, but McDonald's in Canada have cold sandwiches now and one
is a reuben and it's great!


--
Cheers

Dennis

Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply

sf 26-02-2005 08:07 PM

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:48:17 GMT, Dog3
> wrote:

> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>

This is a VERY serious situation and you need to take action
immediately!

http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft/

sf

TheAlligator 26-02-2005 09:30 PM

"jmcquown" > wrote:
That's intersting, Jill. My extended family has always called regular
sausage gravy (WITH sausage btw) sawmill gravy. Aren't regional
differences funny?

jmcquown 26-02-2005 09:44 PM

TheAlligator wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> That's intersting, Jill. My extended family has always called regular
> sausage gravy (WITH sausage btw) sawmill gravy. Aren't regional
> differences funny?


Indeed they are! When I was up in Iowa last year a particular breakfast
joint made gravy for their biscuits with hamburger; it was very bland. And
no, they didn't call it S.O.S. (which to me *must* be made with chipped
beef!).

Jill



Goomba38 26-02-2005 10:34 PM

jmcquown wrote:

> TheAlligator wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote:
>>That's intersting, Jill. My extended family has always called regular
>>sausage gravy (WITH sausage btw) sawmill gravy. Aren't regional
>>differences funny?

>
>
> Indeed they are! When I was up in Iowa last year a particular breakfast
> joint made gravy for their biscuits with hamburger; it was very bland. And
> no, they didn't call it S.O.S. (which to me *must* be made with chipped
> beef!).
>
> Jill


Not unlike how you call ground beef "hamburger"
and I call it ground beef (or something else more
exact like "ground round" or whatever?)
Goomba


jmcquown 26-02-2005 10:42 PM

Goomba38 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> TheAlligator wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>> That's intersting, Jill. My extended family has always called
>>> regular sausage gravy (WITH sausage btw) sawmill gravy. Aren't
>>> regional differences funny?

>>
>>
>> Indeed they are! When I was up in Iowa last year a particular
>> breakfast joint made gravy for their biscuits with hamburger; it was
>> very bland. And no, they didn't call it S.O.S. (which to me *must*
>> be made with chipped beef!).
>>
>> Jill

>
> Not unlike how you call ground beef "hamburger"
> and I call it ground beef (or something else more
> exact like "ground round" or whatever?)
> Goomba


Depends on the beef but yes, I use it generically. Hamburger has the
highest ratio of fat and is the least expensive. Ground round has much less
fat. Ground chuck is somewhere in the middle but still lower in fat than
regular "hamburger". (That's how it's labelled at my grocery store). I
could call it minced beef or beef mince if it would make you feel better ;)

Jill



Maverick 27-02-2005 05:08 AM

"Dog3" > wrote in message
1...
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>
> Michael


I *SWEAR* to GOD that it was NOT ME, Michael!

Honest!

Bret
(Lives in Nebraska)



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TheAlligator 27-02-2005 11:35 AM

"jmcquown" > wrote:

>TheAlligator wrote:
>Aren't regional differences funny?
>
>Indeed they are! When I was up in Iowa last year a particular breakfast
>joint made gravy for their biscuits with hamburger; it was very bland. And
>no, they didn't call it S.O.S. (which to me *must* be made with chipped
>beef!).

As a side-note, I ran across this recipe for Sawmill gravy from Alton
Brown:
1 pound bulk breakfast sausage
1/4 cup flour
2 cups milk
Salt and pepper to taste

Cook sausage in a cast iron skillet. When done, remove sausage from
pan and pour off all but 2 tablespoons of fat. Whisk flour into the
fat and cook over low heat for 5 minutes. Remove pan from heat and
whisk in milk a little at a time. Return to medium-high heat and stir
occasionally while the gravy comes to a simmer and thickens. (Be sure
to scrape up any brown bits that might be stuck to the bottom of the
pan, that's where the flavor is.) Check seasoning, add crumbled
sausage and serve over toast or biscuits.
Guess he grew up close to me!
BTW, I always throw in a good heap of cayenne along with the black.

Stan Horwitz 27-02-2005 02:02 PM

In article > ,
Dog3 > wrote:

> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.


Michael, you are a victim of fraud. I am serious, you need to report
this identity theft incident to your local police or district attorney.
Report this problem immediately. The longer you delay reporting this
identity theft, the worse the damage will be and the more difficult it
will be for you to clear your name.

ms. tonya 27-02-2005 07:50 PM

Date: Sat, Feb 26, 2005 (Dog3)WROTE:
Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
there. Gawd, I've never been to
Nebraska.-----------------------------------------
RESPONSE: To hell with chinese carry outs & do what Jill posted first
thing Monday morning and stop thinking this is a bad joke that police
will take care of.
Our news -Detroit- ran a special on ID theft recently telling us police
will file a report from you but will not really get involved with these
cases.
It interview couples that filed ID theft reports with proof but their
credit reports were ruined and one couple who filed ID theft were paying
back taxes to IRS from a person who used their social security number to
obtain a job being in united states illegally.
Chances are very good your going to be held responsible for this auto
crash and lose everything.

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Tony P. 27-02-2005 08:21 PM

In article >, Tonya_049
@webtv.net says...
> Date: Sat, Feb 26, 2005 (Dog3)WROTE:
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to
> Nebraska.-----------------------------------------
> RESPONSE: To hell with chinese carry outs & do what Jill posted first
> thing Monday morning and stop thinking this is a bad joke that police
> will take care of.
> Our news -Detroit- ran a special on ID theft recently telling us police
> will file a report from you but will not really get involved with these
> cases.
> It interview couples that filed ID theft reports with proof but their
> credit reports were ruined and one couple who filed ID theft were paying
> back taxes to IRS from a person who used their social security number to
> obtain a job being in united states illegally.
> Chances are very good your going to be held responsible for this auto
> crash and lose everything.


Because local PD's don't have the funds to go chasing it down. And even
the FBI requires a loss of $20K or more to pursue a case of fraudulent
identity.

Identity thieves know this.


Default User 27-02-2005 11:25 PM


Dog3 wrote:
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car


> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much

luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.



Starting March 1, we here in St. Louis and other parts of the midwest
can get all three credit reports free. Be sure to get them and go over
them thoroughly before you do anything else.

You can get a new SSN if necessary, although it's not all that simple.




Brian


Denise~* 28-02-2005 07:52 AM

Dog3 wrote:
> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>
> Michael
>


Here you can get your free credit report from the top 3 credit agencies.
Equifax, Experian and Trans Union

www.annualcreditreport.com


Denise~* 28-02-2005 07:53 AM

Dog3 wrote:

> Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
> number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
> accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
> there. Gawd, I've never been to Nebraska.
>
> Ob Food::
>
> The Chinese carryout was good. The rice is impeccable at this place.
>
> Michael
>


Ohh, and I forgot to say, That sucks!

Good luck getting this corrected.

Sandi 28-02-2005 06:48 PM

I just finished up a case of identity theft...the perpertrator is
Washington Correctional Facility for Women after conviction.
Here's what I did:
Contacted the police where the id theft occured. You will have to make
a formal written complaint. That gets you a police report with a number
issued and an investigating officer's name and contact number. Provide
them with all infomation regarding any fraudlent charges on credit
cards, any new accounts opened, etc.
I contacted all the financial institutions I deal with and forwarded
them a copy of the police report and filled out all pertinent forms
since a fraudulent bank account was opened in my name and the perp had
bounced $10,000 in checks.
I contacted all credit bureaus and immediately put an ID theft
notification on my credit rating. They also were sent a copy of the
report.
I contacted all credit card companies....and discovered that there were
unauthorized charges on some accounts. Upon receipt of the police
report, they deleted all charges and notified the credit agencies.
Since your SSN was fraudulently used, you need to contact the Soc. Sec.
Administration...and send them a copy of the police report also.
When you get a copy of your credit reports, it has the adresses you
have lived at on the reports. Inform the police if any of those
addresses are not yours. The perp may have slipped up (as in my case)
and used his or her real address!

Keep copies all correspondence. You often will need to send copies of
materials you recieve from other agencies and companies to the credit
bureau, police agencies, SSA, etc.

Hope this helps.

Sandi


Sandi 28-02-2005 06:52 PM

Not totally. Mine occured as a result of the theft of mail that
included bills from one of my credit cards. That gave the perp my name,
address, account number, etc. We caught a break because she opened a
fraudulent bank account ans was caught on camera. They showed the
picture around and folks verified that it wasn't me and that I was in
Central Americaover a year.

Sandi


Sandi 28-02-2005 07:02 PM

Took me about a year to get mine mess straightened out...but the perp
is in prison on id theft, bank fraud, grand theft, etc.

Sandi


Sandi 28-02-2005 07:03 PM

Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
occurred.

Sandi


Goomba38 28-02-2005 07:29 PM

Sandi wrote:
> Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
> put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
> with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
> of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
> never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
> her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
> negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
> company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
> occurred.
> Sandi


Any clue as to how she obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba


Gregory Morrow 28-02-2005 08:30 PM


Goomba38 wrote:

> Sandi wrote:
> > Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
> > put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
> > with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
> > of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
> > never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
> > her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
> > negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
> > company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
> > occurred.
> > Sandi

>
> Any clue as to how she obtained your information?
> That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
> y'know?



OT'ish as regards Michael's sitch we are talking about, but another way ID's
are stolen is when people are deceased...

A guy I knew years ago is in prison in Wisconsin for stealing identities
from decedents. He'd comb the obituaries looking for "marks"...he'd then
contact the family (usually via the funeral home) claiming he was a
Wisconsin state tax official, claiming he needed further info to clear up
some "final tax matters". He would get this info and use it to get credit,
checking accounts, car loans, etc. He'd fence the more expensive
merchandise...

He had quite a nice little scam going until one family got wise and
contacted the police. His biggest boo - boo was impersonating a tax
official, the judge did not like that at all. He also had prior convictions
for ID theft, these he stole by rummaging through dumpsters...

Thing was 20+ years ago when I was acquainted with this guy he seemed
perfectly normal and nice He had an MBA from DePaul University here in
Chicago, had a good job with a brokerage firm in the Loop, had a nice
family, etc. Turns out that despite all his advantages he just had a
criminal mind I guess...

So ya never know...and just because you are deceased is no guarantee you are
safe from these scumbags...

There are more grifters out there than ya'd think, it's not just something
you see in movies. They usually are normal and even nice people, can be
very charming in fact...natcherly that's part of their MO.

--
Best
Greg




Sheldon 28-02-2005 09:13 PM

Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...


TheAlligator 28-02-2005 10:25 PM

"Sandi" > wrote:

>Took me about a year to get mine mess straightened out...but the perp
>is in prison on id theft, bank fraud, grand theft, etc.
>
>Sandi

Good for you, Sandi. Sometimes it makes you wish they'd just shoot
'em.

Sandi 28-02-2005 11:54 PM

She stole mail addressed to me and used a fraudulent SSN and fake IDs
with her picture but my name and address to set up bank accounts and
credit card accounts. She stole checks from an escrow company and
forged signatures to make the deposits to the fraudulent bank account.
The sheriff said they even caught her going through mail in the DA=B4s
office wastebaskeet while they were charing her. She was looking for
addresses.

You can contact the credit bureaus and request that pre approved credit
card applications NOT be sent to you. That=B4s one of the things she
stole.

Sandi


Damsel in dis Dress 01-03-2005 01:10 AM

"Sheldon" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
>That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
>y'know?
>Goomba
>
>SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...


I used to think that people who shredded their paperwork were just being
paranoid. As time has gone by, I've discovered that they're absolutely
right. Still haven't found our shredder since the move, but it'll be put
to use on our several month's accumulation of junk mail and stuff.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_


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