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Nancy Young 07-10-2007 01:22 PM

A proposition
 
I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
so I deleted the rule.

I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.

Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

nancy



jmcquown 07-10-2007 01:31 PM

A proposition
 
Nancy Young wrote:
> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.
>
> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>
> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>
> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
>
> nancy


I completely understand, Nancy! Apparently when I suggested the name change
it was taken poorly. So, whatever. Now I just don't see their posts. At
least not until some loser gmail and hotmail folks give up the spamming and
go away. Then maybe I can unblock the domains. Remember when it was just
AOL? LOL

Jill



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 01:32 PM

A proposition
 

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
>> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
>> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
>> so I deleted the rule.
>>
>> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
>> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>>
>> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>>
>> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

>
>
> I just did the exact same thing, thanx for your post...
>
> Remember when gmail "invitations" were highly - coveted...???


I would love if I had that option! I have that option with my email
and I don't like it for that.

nancy



Gregory Morrow[_33_] 07-10-2007 01:39 PM

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Nancy Young wrote:

> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.
>
> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>
> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>
> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.



I just did the exact same thing, thanx for your post...

Remember when gmail "invitations" were highly - coveted...???

--
Best
Greg



Gregory Morrow[_33_] 07-10-2007 01:43 PM

A proposition
 

Nancy Young wrote:

> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.
>
> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>
> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?


Om is one person who has a gmail address, so I don't see her posts; she
should munge it so I can see her...

--
Best
Greg




Nancy Young 07-10-2007 01:55 PM

A proposition
 

"kilikini" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote
>>>
>>> Nancy Young wrote:


>>>> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
>>>> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.


> I'm happy you haven't killfiled me. Thanks, Nancy.


(laugh!) Why would I do that. Not intentionally, that's for sure.

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 01:57 PM

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"James Silverton" > wrote

> one that actually deletes. People whose posts you wish to read can be
> specifically allowed.


How, exactly, would you do that?

nancy



James Silverton[_2_] 07-10-2007 01:57 PM

A proposition
 
jmcquown wrote on Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:31:12 -0500:

j> Nancy Young wrote:
??>> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more
??>> pleasant without all that spam and other assorted crap.
??>> Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I
??>> don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
??>>
??>> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts
??>> because she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her
??>> address.
??>>
??>> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
??>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
??>>
??>> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
??>>
??>> nancy

j> I completely understand, Nancy! Apparently when I suggested
j> the name change it was taken poorly. So, whatever. Now I
j> just don't see their posts. At least not until some loser
j> gmail and hotmail folks give up the spamming and go away.
j> Then maybe I can unblock the domains. Remember when it was
j> just AOL? LOL

It is possible to use a temporary rule in Outlook Express and
other programs to change the text color of a subject. You can
then see what the effect will be before replacing the rule with
one that actually deletes. People whose posts you wish to read
can be specifically allowed. I did not find the number needed
for gmail to be very large and you can usually notice a popular
new poster by seeing the name in replies.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Christine Dabney 07-10-2007 02:03 PM

A proposition
 
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:57:00 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"James Silverton" > wrote
>
>> one that actually deletes. People whose posts you wish to read can be
>> specifically allowed.

>
>How, exactly, would you do that?
>
>nancy
>


I have no problem at all doing this with Agent. I can selectively
killfile, or selectively read whoever I want, no matter what domain it
is, and no matter if I have killfiled the rest of the domain.

Christine

James Silverton[_2_] 07-10-2007 02:11 PM

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Nancy wrote on Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:57:00 -0400:

??>> one that actually deletes. People whose posts you wish to
??>> read can be specifically allowed.

NY> How, exactly, would you do that?

I will give you the rules as suggested by Bruce Hagen on the
Outlook Express newsgroup.


BH> Rule 1:

BH> Box 1: Where the from line contains people
BH> Box 2: Stop processing more rules
BH> Box 3: Click on Contains people and Add the addresses you
BH> want to receive one-at-a time.

BH> Rule 2: (right below rule 1).

BH> Where the from line contains people
BH> Delete it and Stop processing more rules
BH> Click on Contains People and Add the domain. Ex: @aol.com


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Omelet[_2_] 07-10-2007 02:14 PM

A proposition
 
In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.
>
> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>
> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>
> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
>
> nancy


Ok, let me know if this simple fix works please?
This way I don't have to change my .sig that much.

I had it munged anyway to help cut back on spam, but not enough to keep
you from killing it.

You are not the only one to kill all gmails so it's not a bad idea. :-)
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Omelet[_2_] 07-10-2007 02:15 PM

A proposition
 
In article >,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> > without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> > I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> > so I deleted the rule.
> >
> > I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> > she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
> >
> > Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> > This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

>
> Om is one person who has a gmail address, so I don't see her posts; she
> should munge it so I can see her...


I just re-did my munging. Please let me know if that worked?
--
Peace, Om

Remove both _ (underscores) to validate gmail e-mails.

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Gregory Morrow[_33_] 07-10-2007 02:26 PM

A proposition
 


Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
> > I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> > without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> > I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> > so I deleted the rule.
> >
> > I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> > she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
> >
> > Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> > This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
> >
> > Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
> >
> > nancy

>
> Ok, let me know if this simple fix works please?
> This way I don't have to change my .sig that much.



We see you loud and clear, luv...!!!

--
Best
Greg




Omelet[_2_] 07-10-2007 02:36 PM

A proposition
 
In article >,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >
> > > I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> > > without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> > > I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> > > so I deleted the rule.
> > >
> > > I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
> > > she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
> > >
> > > Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> > > This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
> > >
> > > Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
> > >
> > > nancy

> >
> > Ok, let me know if this simple fix works please?
> > This way I don't have to change my .sig that much.

>
>
> We see you loud and clear, luv...!!!


Groovy!

{{{ hugs }}}
--
Peace, Om

Remove both _ (underscores) to validate gmail e-mails.

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

Nancy Young 07-10-2007 02:40 PM

A proposition
 

"James Silverton" > wrote

> Nancy wrote on Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:57:00 -0400:
>
> ??>> one that actually deletes. People whose posts you wish to
> ??>> read can be specifically allowed.
>
> NY> How, exactly, would you do that?
>
> I will give you the rules as suggested by Bruce Hagen on the Outlook
> Express newsgroup.


Jim, thanks a million.

nancy



MJB 07-10-2007 02:52 PM

A proposition
 

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.


You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail
account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different
service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings
from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as
Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.

<shrug>

You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at
any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or are
going to play the NE Patriots.

<shudder>

MJB



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 03:03 PM

A proposition
 

"MJB" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>>I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
>> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
>> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
>> so I deleted the rule.

>
> You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail
> account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different
> service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings
> from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as
> Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.
>
> <shrug>
>
> You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at
> any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or
> are going to play the NE Patriots.


Oh, believe me, I have seen worse too. It just aggravates me how
gmail, etc allow themselves to be mass polluters. It sucks. I have
added maxine back to my welcome posters, I'll add Little and Dams,
too. With any luck I'll catch anyone else when people reply to them
and I notice I didn't see their post.

Thanks.

nancy



Gregory Morrow[_33_] 07-10-2007 03:18 PM

A proposition
 

MJB wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> > without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> > I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> > so I deleted the rule.

>
> You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail
> account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different
> service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings
> from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as
> Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.
>
> <shrug>
>
> You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at
> any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or

are
> going to play the NE Patriots.
>
> <shudder>



Not to mention the HUGE amount of Google - sourced Usenet spam emanating
primarily from China, India, and Pakistan. Some of it is commercial
(Nike...), some of it is moozlim propaganda crap...

--
Best
Greg



George[_1_] 07-10-2007 03:54 PM

A proposition
 
Nancy Young wrote:
> "MJB" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
>>> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
>>> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
>>> so I deleted the rule.

>> You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail
>> account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different
>> service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings
>> from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as
>> Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.
>>
>> <shrug>
>>
>> You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at
>> any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or
>> are going to play the NE Patriots.

>
> Oh, believe me, I have seen worse too. It just aggravates me how
> gmail, etc allow themselves to be mass polluters.


I think thats the problem with a lot of companies like Google (the
spammers friend). They start out with good ideas (Google's policy
actually was and is still supposed to be "do no harm"). Then they start
making big money and turn into a faceless megacorp.


My buddy owns a local business. His elderly parents live in the same
town where his business is located. His parents were getting constant
visits by sales people looking for his business. Both have health issues
so it is a major annoyance. After some detective work he finds that for
some reason Google has decided that his business is located at his
parent's house and has that information in their business directory.

My buddy finds out that you can only submit a request via a webform. He
does and gets a canned response of "thank you for contacting megacorp
and we may actually look at this some day. After numerous retires he
spent the afternoon on the phone trying to actually talk to someone at
Google. After a lot of work he actually got someone who insisted that
even though it was Google's error and there was no basis for the
incorrect entry he would need to prove his information. He submitted the
information almost a year ago and the listed information is still
incorrect. He has not been able to contact anyone who knows anything and
just gets dumped into various peoples voicemail who never call back.







It sucks. I have
> added maxine back to my welcome posters, I'll add Little and Dams,
> too. With any luck I'll catch anyone else when people reply to them
> and I notice I didn't see their post.
>
> Thanks.
>
> nancy
>
>


dejablues[_5_] 07-10-2007 03:59 PM

A proposition
 

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> so I deleted the rule.


It isn't gmail that's the problem, it's posts coming from Google Groups,
whose users may or may not use as their addy. So, how does one
killfile all posts from Google Groups, and leave those posting with a gmail
address through Outlook Express or another real newsreader?



Bobo Bonobo® 07-10-2007 04:01 PM

A proposition
 
On Oct 7, 9:18 am, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
> MJB wrote:
> > "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
> > > without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
> > > I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
> > > so I deleted the rule.

>
> > You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail
> > account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different
> > service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings
> > from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as
> > Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.

>
> > <shrug>

>
> > You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at
> > any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or

> are
> > going to play the NE Patriots.

>
> > <shudder>

>
> Not to mention the HUGE amount of Google - sourced Usenet spam emanating
> primarily from China, India, and Pakistan. Some of it is commercial
> (Nike...), some of it is moozlim propaganda crap...


Whenever I see Islamospam, I post back with really offensive stuff,
accusing the Prophet's wives of all kind of cuckolding and perversion.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg


--Bryan


Nancy Young 07-10-2007 05:09 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:22:20 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> I killfiled the gmail domain,

>
> You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email
> addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts
> with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email
> address posts through Google Groups.


Actually, it worked just fine for my purposes. I don't have
any complaints in that regard.

> identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a
> better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those
> regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.


And apparently I can do that.

> ObFood: Eggs over medium on toasted NYTimes no-kneed bread.


Last night's leftover Italian sub.

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 05:25 PM

A proposition
 

"Peter A" > wrote

> says...
>> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
>> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
>> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
>> so I deleted the rule.
>>
>> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
>> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>>
>> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>>
>> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
>>

> Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd
> to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.


Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?

Or is it just your usual wish to see the worst in everyone speaking?

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 05:38 PM

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"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:09:09 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:


>>> identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a
>>> better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those
>>> regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.

>>
>> And apparently I can do that.

>
> There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be
> killfiled in OE.


Really? Have you read James Silverton's post?

nancy



sf[_3_] 07-10-2007 05:45 PM

A proposition
 
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:03:07 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>I have no problem at all doing this with Agent. I can selectively
>killfile, or selectively read whoever I want, no matter what domain it
>is, and no matter if I have killfiled the rest of the domain.


You have a newer version of Agent than I do. If you think mine could
do that, I need a quick lesson on domain killing one of these days (in
chat). Currently, the worst spammers (IMO)are those that follow Steve
Krammer around, so if they don't migrate their domains maybe I could
kill them that way. All the other pipsqueaks are just a right click
away from never never land. IMO: It's very satisfying to plonk them
into the Bozo Bin.

--
See return address to reply by email

Michael Kuettner 07-10-2007 05:48 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:09:09 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>>
>>> You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email
>>> addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts
>>> with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email
>>> address posts through Google Groups.

>>
>> Actually, it worked just fine for my purposes. I don't have
>> any complaints in that regard.

>
> I just spot-checked the spam, crosspostings, and forgeries and my
> way you kill 40% more of the trash.
>
>>> identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a
>>> better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those
>>> regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.

>>
>> And apparently I can do that.

>
> There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be
> killfiled in OE.
>

Of course there is.
Just create a rule in which you enter the adresses of the people you want
to read. Specify "Execute no other rules".
Now move that rule to the top of the list.

HTH,

Michael Kuettner



aem 07-10-2007 05:50 PM

A proposition
 
On Oct 7, 9:09 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>
> > You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email
> > addresses.


For some reason, this seems to me to be overly general. -aem



sf[_3_] 07-10-2007 05:50 PM

A proposition
 
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:54:59 -0400, George >
wrote:

>My buddy finds out that you can only submit a request via a webform. He
>does and gets a canned response of "thank you for contacting megacorp
>and we may actually look at this some day. After numerous retires he
>spent the afternoon on the phone trying to actually talk to someone at
>Google. After a lot of work he actually got someone who insisted that
>even though it was Google's error and there was no basis for the
>incorrect entry he would need to prove his information. He submitted the
>information almost a year ago and the listed information is still
>incorrect. He has not been able to contact anyone who knows anything and
>just gets dumped into various peoples voicemail who never call back.


Tell me more. Is this incorrect address found on a simple google
search or is this an adwords problem? I may be able to find an answer
for him.

--
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Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:01 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:25:11 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?

>
> "Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?"


Asking and expecting are far different things.

If I say to you, maybe you could give me some money?

Would I expect to see a check in the mail any time soon?

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:03 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:38:29 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>>
>>> There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be
>>> killfiled in OE.

>>
>> Really? Have you read James Silverton's post?

>
> OK. I didn't know that.
>
> But OE still doesn't allow you killfile based on Message-ID,
> which is what really needs to happen here - rather than having
> ask people to change the way they display their email address
> (Victor, especially, would have a fit over this).


I don't give a hoot what Victor thinks about anything.

But what you're not understanding or caring about is that
killfiling gmail did a great job for my purposes. I was not
complaining about that at all.

nancy



James Silverton[_2_] 07-10-2007 06:08 PM

A proposition
 
Peter wrote on Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:24:13 -0400:

PA> In article >,
PA> says...
??>> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more
??>> pleasant without all that spam and other assorted crap.
??>> Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I
??>> don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
??>>
??>> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts
??>> because she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her
??>> address.
??>>
??>> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
??>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
??>>
??>> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
??>>
??>> nancy
??>>
PA> Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?
PA> It seems odd to expect others to change the way they post
PA> for your convenience.

Have you looked at earlier postings on this subject? Doing the
reverse and specifically allowing postings is not much of a
chore.


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:22 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:03:11 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> But what you're not understanding or caring about is that
>> killfiling gmail did a great job for my purposes. I was not
>> complaining about that at all.

>
> And what you're not understanding is that you're only doing the
> job half-assed. I understand that you think it's better, but
> it's not nearly as effective as it could be.


How about this. I do not see anything that bothers me
with gmail banned. There are no messages appearing that
are making me with I could killfile them.

No worries. Whatsoever.

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:26 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:01:31 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote


>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:25:11 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?
>>>
>>> "Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?"

>>
>> Asking and expecting are far different things.

>
> That's picking nits.


*Absolutely Not* ... because I do not expect anyone to change
their address just because I asked. You are putting expectations
on me that were never in my mind.

It's only nitpicking if you think I did expect, say, maxine in ri
to mung her address or I would be mad or something. I was
*asking* if people thought they could see their way to do so.

Maybe when *you* ask people for a favor you *expect* them
to comply. I do not, so don't put that on me.

nancy



ChattyCathy 07-10-2007 06:43 PM

A proposition
 
Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:50:19 -0700, aem wrote:
>
>> On Oct 7, 9:09 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>>>
>>>> You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email
>>>> addresses.

>> For some reason, this seems to me to be overly general. -aem

>
> Say again? It's that same thing that the OP thinks she's
> accomplishing, but isn't.
>
> -sw


I thought your newsreader could killfile anything posted from giggle
groups domain... and yet you reply to aem's post? Oh, wait, you must
have him 'white listed'. My apologies.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:46 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:26:23 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:01:31 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote

>>
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:25:11 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>>>>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?"
>>>>
>>>> Asking and expecting are far different things.
>>>
>>> That's picking nits.

>>
>> *Absolutely Not* ... because I do not expect anyone to change
>> their address just because I asked. You are putting expectations
>> on me that were never in my mind.

>
> If you didn't expect [some of] them to abide, then why did you
> ask? You must have expected some to change their email addresses
> otherwise you wouldn't have asked.


I see that you are familiar with what nitpicking is.

I do think that some of the people who I'm missing do like
me enough that they might do that for me. If they did not
want to, for whatever reason, I would not expect them to.
Therein lies the difference.

Maybe in your life, if you asked for something, you got it.
I'm not particularly familiar with that, so, No, when I ask
it's simply that. Asking. Not with any expectation that my
wish would be granted.

Frankly, I have no idea why you are concerning yourself
with an issue between me and Peter. He's the one who said
I expected anything. I didn't know you two were palsy walsy.

You cannot put me in a bad mood. I'm going to visit
my brother's brand new twins this afternoon.

nancy



Nancy Young 07-10-2007 06:51 PM

A proposition
 

"Peter A" > wrote

> says...
>>
>> "Peter A" > wrote
>>
>> >
says...
>> >> I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
>> >> without all that spam and other assorted crap. Unfortunately,
>> >> I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
>> >> so I deleted the rule.
>> >>
>> >> I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
>> >> she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
>> >>
>> >> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>> >> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
>> >>
>> >> Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
>> >>
>> > Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd
>> > to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.

>>
>> Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?
>>

>
> Here ya go:
>
>>> Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?


What's that you like to say to people? Reading comprehension?

nancy



ChattyCathy 07-10-2007 07:24 PM

A proposition
 
Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:43:20 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> I thought your newsreader could killfile anything posted from giggle
>> groups domain... and yet you reply to aem's post?

>
> I have my newsreader set to mark everything from Google as
> already read. This prevents me from seeing all the obvious spam,
> at least until somebody responds to it, bringing the entire
> thread into view. It also keeps from having to maintain a
> whitelist since I'll still the Google posters in a normal thread
> (although marked as read - where I can choose to retrieve the
> article if I care).
>
>> Oh, wait, you must have him 'white listed'. My apologies.

>
> Him? I always thought it was a she <shrug>.


Well, I was told by a member of The Cabal (TINC) that it was a "he" <shrug>

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

MJB 07-10-2007 07:30 PM

A proposition
 

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> That is illegal in UK and the perpertrators would end up in prison as
> indeed they ought!!!!


Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of the
world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable, inflammatory
things they want. But giving them freedom of speech does not mean the
goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent freedom to be heard.

MJB



Ophelia[_4_] 07-10-2007 07:33 PM

A proposition
 
MJB wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> That is illegal in UK and the perpertrators would end up in prison as
>> indeed they ought!!!!

>
> Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of
> the world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable,
> inflammatory things they want. But giving them freedom of speech
> does not mean the goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent freedom to
> be heard.
> MJB


It is the law here so there is no choice!



dejablues[_5_] 07-10-2007 07:43 PM

A proposition
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:24:13 -0400, Peter A wrote:
>
>> Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?

>
> Because then you'd be killfiling spammers dozens of times every
> day. Spammers don't always use the same email address.
>
> BTW: She's not kilfiling new articles from particular domians,
> only people that happen to advertise certain domains in their
> email address. Which a bunch of people don't quite understand.
>
> -sw


Which is why killfiling everyone who uses gmail in their email addy would do
absolutely nothing to reduce the spam and offensive articles I usually see,
and the infestation in group is quite mild compared to some others!

Spammers post via googlegroups, but they use something else in their email
addy, like yahoo, aol ,hotmail, or something they make up. There are ways of
killing domains, I looked into it briefly but don't have the time to fiddle
with it now.




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