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Arri London 05-10-2007 01:33 AM

NJ food facts
 
Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.

New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)

New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
(no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)

Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)

Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
(Yes they are.)

New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
blueberries, not the cranberries)

Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)

Hobken is also the home of the first 'Blimpie' sandwich shop, started by
NJ students.

You know you're from NJ when:

You don't think of fruit when people mention "The Oranges." (Towns
bordering Newark by the name of Orange, East Orange, West Orange and
South Orange. No North Orange though.)

A good, quick breakfast is a hard roll with butter.

You know that a "White Castle" is the name of BOTH a fast food
chain AND a fast food sandwich.

You consider putting mayo on a corned beef sandwich a sacrilege.


You've had a boardwalk cheese steak and vinegar fries. (Down the Shore
of course)

Reg 05-10-2007 01:52 AM

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Arri London wrote:

> Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.
>
> New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
> to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)
>
> New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
> (no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)
>
> Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
> sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)
>
> Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
> (Yes they are.)
>
> New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
> production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
> blueberries, not the cranberries)
>
> Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
> brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)
>
> Hobken is also the home of the first 'Blimpie' sandwich shop, started by
> NJ students.


Yes, Hoboken. All kinds of unique food choices available there.

Here's the only place left I know of where you can get sfogliatella.

http://www.carlosbakery.com/pastries.html

Anybody know of any other places, perchance?

--
Reg


Nancy Young 05-10-2007 04:13 AM

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"Arri London" > wrote

> Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs


Arri, I took a beating when I described Italian hot dogs.

Poor people don't know what they're missing.

nancy



Kswck 05-10-2007 10:32 PM

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"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
> Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.
>
> New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
> to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)
>
> New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
> (no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)
>
> Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
> sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)
>
> Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
> (Yes they are.)
>
> New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
> production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
> blueberries, not the cranberries)
>
> Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
> brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)
>


NJ also produces 70% of the eggplant in the US.



Arri London 06-10-2007 12:44 AM

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Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote
>
> > Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs

>
> Arri, I took a beating when I described Italian hot dogs.
>
> Poor people don't know what they're missing.
>
> nancy


True enough. My NJ informant told me there's still one 'Jimmy Buff's'
left in East Hanover. The one in Newark was the sort of place my mother
would have forbade me to eat at had she known LOL!

Arri London 06-10-2007 12:44 AM

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Kswck wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.
> >
> > New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
> > to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)
> >
> > New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
> > (no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)
> >
> > Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
> > sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)
> >
> > Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
> > (Yes they are.)
> >
> > New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
> > production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
> > blueberries, not the cranberries)
> >
> > Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
> > brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)
> >

>
> NJ also produces 70% of the eggplant in the US.


Ah must add that to the list then. Thanks!

Arri London 06-10-2007 12:50 AM

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Reg wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
>
> > Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.
> >
> > New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
> > to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)
> >
> > New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
> > (no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)
> >
> > Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
> > sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)
> >
> > Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
> > (Yes they are.)
> >
> > New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
> > production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
> > blueberries, not the cranberries)
> >
> > Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
> > brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)
> >
> > Hobken is also the home of the first 'Blimpie' sandwich shop, started by
> > NJ students.

>
> Yes, Hoboken. All kinds of unique food choices available there.


Yes apparently it is. Used to belong to a Newark-based (former residents
that is) newsgroup and they used to meet up in Hoboken for nice meals.

>
> Here's the only place left I know of where you can get sfogliatella.
>
> http://www.carlosbakery.com/pastries.html
>
> Anybody know of any other places, perchance?
>
> --
> Reg


Can't help you with bakeries but you could try making your own:

http://www.cookiesfromitaly.com/reci...ogliatella.htm

(My Italian dictionary defines 'strutto' as lard.)

Or else try North Newark or NYC bakeries.

Stan Horwitz[_2_] 06-10-2007 04:28 AM

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In article >,
"Kswck" > wrote:

> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Part of a 'Things you didn't know about New Jersey' email sent to me.
> >
> > New Jersey has the most diners in the world and is sometimes referred
> > to as the "Diner Capital of the World." (Have eaten at a couple.)
> >
> > New Jersey is home to the original Mystery Pork Parts Club
> > (no, not Spam): Taylor Ham or Pork Roll. (Yum!)
> >
> > Home to the less mysterious but the best Italian hot dogs and Italian
> > sausage w/peppers and onions. (Even more yum!)
> >
> > Jersey tomatoes are known the world over as being the best you can buy.
> > (Yes they are.)
> >
> > New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
> > production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
> > blueberries, not the cranberries)
> >
> > Here's to New Jersey - the toast of the country! In 1642, the first
> > brewery in America, opened in Hoboken. (Actually it was in 1663)
> >

>
> NJ also produces 70% of the eggplant in the US.


I live in NJ and I wasn't aware that it grows so much eggplant and
cranberries.

Pat Evans 06-10-2007 04:58 AM

NJ food facts
 
Don't forget the white corn.


J S 06-10-2007 05:27 AM

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NJ food facts

Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2007, 5:52pm (EDT-3) From:
(Reg)
>>>>Yes, Hoboken. All kinds of unique food choices available there.

Here's the only place left I know of where you can get sfogliatella.
http://www.carlosbakery.com/pastries.html
Anybody know of any other places, perchance?
Reg >>>
--------------------

Try this site:
www.tommyeats.com
It lists Raspoli's in Ridgefield amd Cheesecake Aly in Glen Rock.
Googling 'sfogliatella-NJ' pulls up tons of places
Cheers,Smitty

"Food, Art and Films,What else do you need?...Well.."


J S 06-10-2007 06:50 AM

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Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2007, 11:13pm From:
(Nancy*Young)
<<<Arri, I took a beating when I described Italian hot dogs.
Poor people don't know what they're missing.
nancy >>>
------------
Im Italian who grew up in Newarl,NJ in the 40,s-50,s.,when South Orange
Ave-Westside Park was the Italian section.
The ingredients and quality of food was much better back then.This was
during the war when I was very little.Eggs tasted like eggs,chickens
were tastier.Most of our families had little gardens in the yards
growing tomatoes,herbs and various vegetables..Whole days were spent
making spaghetti sauces,raised our own chickens.When my great
grandparents came over from Genoa they opened a chicken market in
Belleville Nj.Italian hotdogs were something my mother and grandmother
used to make all the time.or we,d buy them at the St Roccos Catholic
feasts of the Saints once a year.,or Coney Island and Seaside
heights.The ones made today just not the same somehow.Ive heard all the
eeews and whats also...dont know what they,re missing.

ITALIAN HOTDOGS
Family recipe

1 pkg GOOD beef hotdogs
4 or 5 lg potatoes cubed or sliced in strips
3 green peppers-cut in strips
1 med onion-cut in strips
3 cloves garlic-minced
Olive Oil
salt-pepper to taste
2 loaves of any round italiian flat bread

In large heavy skillet over med heat,add olive oil and garlic
till slightly browned.Remove garlic to the side.
Add potatoes and saute till slightly browned amd softend--add onions and
peppers.Lower heat and cook (stirring and watching till done.Remove all
to a bowl
and set aside
Add hotdogs to oil and raise to med.More oil can be added now if needed.
They can be added whole,coined,or split down the middle,whatever your
preference(whole is better).Fry till theyre the way you like them,Some
prefer slightly browned-some like almost blackened-your choice.
Put garlic.onions,peppers back into skillet with hotdogs,toss
lightly.till all ingredients are heated thru.Cover and renove from heat
and let lavors meld.
Slice the round bread in halves if small,in quarters if large.If they
are cut in half rounds make a pocket in the bread.
Add a layer of potatoes,peppers,onions,garlic,then hotdog slices,then
repeat with onion,garlic pepers ,potatoes.Drizzle a little hot oil from
the pan.It will NOT be greasy.The flavor combo is to die for.
The breads originally used for this was from a bakery in NJ called
Celantanos,which also sold pasta.It was called "pizza bread"(no not
pita),was about 2 inches thick, round with a hole in the center.
Have had 'modern' fancy versions of this,but it not at all like the
originals.
Cheers,Smitty

"Food, Art and Films,What else do you need?...Well.."


Boron Elgar[_1_] 06-10-2007 02:38 PM

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On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:27:54 -0400, (J S) wrote:

>
> NJ food facts
>
>Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2007, 5:52pm (EDT-3) From:
(Reg)
>>>>>Yes, Hoboken. All kinds of unique food choices available there.

>Here's the only place left I know of where you can get sfogliatella.
>
http://www.carlosbakery.com/pastries.html
>Anybody know of any other places, perchance?
> Reg >>>
>--------------------
>
>Try this site:
>www.tommyeats.com
>It lists Raspoli's in Ridgefield amd Cheesecake Aly in Glen Rock.
>Googling 'sfogliatella-NJ' pulls up tons of places
>Cheers,Smitty
>
>"Food, Art and Films,What else do you need?...Well.."




Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
sfogliatella.

http://www.calandrasbakery.com/

mike 06-10-2007 08:26 PM

NJ food facts
 
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:33:10 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:

>
>New Jersey is the world leader in blueberry and cranberry
>production (and here you thought Massachusetts?). (Knew about the
>blueberries, not the cranberries)
>


Nope. Neither.

Cranberries = Wisconsin
http://www.agmrc.org/agmrc/commodity...s/cranberries/

Blueberries = Maine (lowbush) and Michigan (highbush)
http://www.agmrc.org/agmrc/commodity...s/blueberries/

(There are _many_ sources that agree with this)

blake murphy 06-10-2007 08:27 PM

NJ food facts
 
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:33:10 -0600, Arri London >
wrote:


>Hobken is also the home of the first 'Blimpie' sandwich shop, started by
>NJ students.
>


'blimpie bases' serve the worst sandwiches in the known universe.
they are so bad, i always assumed they were a front for mafia money
laundering.

your pal,
blake

sf[_3_] 06-10-2007 08:48 PM

NJ food facts
 
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:26:52 -0500, mike > wrote:
>
>Blueberries = Maine (lowbush) and Michigan (highbush)
>http://www.agmrc.org/agmrc/commodity...s/blueberries/
>


I was raised in the heart of SW Michigan blueberry country and I love
blueberries!

--
See return address to reply by email

Arri London 07-10-2007 12:00 AM

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J S wrote:
>
>
> Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Thu, Oct 4, 2007, 11:13pm From:
> (Nancy Young)
> <<<Arri, I took a beating when I described Italian hot dogs.
> Poor people don't know what they're missing.
> nancy >>>
> ------------
> Im Italian who grew up in Newarl,NJ in the 40,s-50,s.,when South Orange
> Ave-Westside Park was the Italian section.
> The ingredients and quality of food was much better back then.This was
> during the war when I was very little.Eggs tasted like eggs,chickens
> were tastier.Most of our families had little gardens in the yards
> growing tomatoes,herbs and various vegetables..Whole days were spent
> making spaghetti sauces,raised our own chickens.When my great
> grandparents came over from Genoa they opened a chicken market in
> Belleville Nj.Italian hotdogs were something my mother and grandmother
> used to make all the time.or we,d buy them at the St Roccos Catholic
> feasts of the Saints once a year.,or Coney Island and Seaside
> heights.The ones made today just not the same somehow.Ive heard all the
> eeews and whats also...dont know what they,re missing.
>
> ITALIAN HOTDOGS
> Family recipe
>
> 1 pkg GOOD beef hotdogs
> 4 or 5 lg potatoes cubed or sliced in strips
> 3 green peppers-cut in strips
> 1 med onion-cut in strips
> 3 cloves garlic-minced
> Olive Oil
> salt-pepper to taste
> 2 loaves of any round italiian flat bread
>
> In large heavy skillet over med heat,add olive oil and garlic
> till slightly browned.Remove garlic to the side.
> Add potatoes and saute till slightly browned amd softend--add onions and
> peppers.Lower heat and cook (stirring and watching till done.Remove all
> to a bowl
> and set aside
> Add hotdogs to oil and raise to med.More oil can be added now if needed.
> They can be added whole,coined,or split down the middle,whatever your
> preference(whole is better).Fry till theyre the way you like them,Some
> prefer slightly browned-some like almost blackened-your choice.
> Put garlic.onions,peppers back into skillet with hotdogs,toss
> lightly.till all ingredients are heated thru.Cover and renove from heat
> and let lavors meld.
> Slice the round bread in halves if small,in quarters if large.If they
> are cut in half rounds make a pocket in the bread.
> Add a layer of potatoes,peppers,onions,garlic,then hotdog slices,then
> repeat with onion,garlic pepers ,potatoes.Drizzle a little hot oil from
> the pan.It will NOT be greasy.The flavor combo is to die for.
> The breads originally used for this was from a bakery in NJ called
> Celantanos,which also sold pasta.It was called "pizza bread"(no not
> pita),was about 2 inches thick, round with a hole in the center.
> Have had 'modern' fancy versions of this,but it not at all like the
> originals.
> Cheers,Smitty



Hey nice recipe. It's the potatoes that make them special LOL. I've made
my own when the craving was upon me, but never had the 'pizza bread'. Is
that the same Celantano's that used to make frozen ravioli?

We lived off of South Orange Ave but we aren't Italian. There was a good
Italian deli and a couple of good bakeries; that was in the late
70s--early 80s.

Arri London 07-10-2007 12:02 AM

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blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:33:10 -0600, Arri London >
> wrote:
>
> >Hobken is also the home of the first 'Blimpie' sandwich shop, started by
> >NJ students.
> >

>
> 'blimpie bases' serve the worst sandwiches in the known universe.
> they are so bad, i always assumed they were a front for mafia money
> laundering.
>
> your pal,
> blake


They aren't very good nowadays that's true. However the Blimpie's in
Newark city centre made a completely different sandwich than is now
available.

Reg 07-10-2007 09:47 PM

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Boron Elgar wrote:

> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
> sfogliatella.
>
> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/


Thanks.

This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
to give their's a try.

--
Reg


Boron Elgar[_1_] 07-10-2007 10:19 PM

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>> sfogliatella.
>>
>> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/

>
>Thanks.
>
>This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
>anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
>to give their's a try.


I recommend them for anything and everything they sell. They are one
of the rare, wonderful bakeries still around.

They even made my wedding cake years ago.

Boron

Reg 07-10-2007 10:30 PM

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Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>
>
>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>>sfogliatella.
>>>
>>>http://www.calandrasbakery.com/

>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
>>anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
>>to give their's a try.

>
>
> I recommend them for anything and everything they sell. They are one
> of the rare, wonderful bakeries still around.
>
> They even made my wedding cake years ago.


Ahhhh, that's it then, I'm going.

My only recollection of sfogliatella, other than my own, is when
I was a tiny kid back in Jersey. All I know is it was from a little
Italian shop somewhere on Vauxhall rd.

Thanks again.

--
Reg


Nancy Young 07-10-2007 10:40 PM

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"Reg" > wrote

> My only recollection of sfogliatella, other than my own, is when
> I was a tiny kid back in Jersey. All I know is it was from a little
> Italian shop somewhere on Vauxhall rd.


Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.

nancy



Boron Elgar[_1_] 07-10-2007 11:21 PM

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:30:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>>>sfogliatella.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.calandrasbakery.com/
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
>>>anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
>>>to give their's a try.

>>
>>
>> I recommend them for anything and everything they sell. They are one
>> of the rare, wonderful bakeries still around.
>>
>> They even made my wedding cake years ago.

>
>Ahhhh, that's it then, I'm going.
>
>My only recollection of sfogliatella, other than my own, is when
>I was a tiny kid back in Jersey. All I know is it was from a little
>Italian shop somewhere on Vauxhall rd.
>
>Thanks again.



A pleasure.

Oh, if they have a Napoleon cake, grab it.

Boron

hahabogus 07-10-2007 11:27 PM

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.
>
> nancy


Never mind that stuff....how are the twins?

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore


Nancy Young 07-10-2007 11:33 PM

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"hahabogus" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
>> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.


> Never mind that stuff....how are the twins?


They are beautiful, and doing well. The boy is smaller and still
in some care ward (NICU?), but he's fine. Over 6 pounds, that's
good for a twin, I think.

Scary, though, my sil (she's from Canada, BTW) lost her vision
this morning for a while. She's fine now, too.

Thanks for asking, my man.

nancy



kuvasz guy 08-10-2007 01:43 AM

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On Oct 7, 5:40 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Reg" > wrote
>
> > My only recollection of sfogliatella, other than my own, is when
> > I was a tiny kid back in Jersey. All I know is it was from a little
> > Italian shop somewhere on Vauxhall rd.

>
> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.
>
> nancy


just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard
of them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy
joe?

...fred


Nancy Young 08-10-2007 01:49 AM

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"kuvasz guy" > wrote

> On Oct 7, 5:40 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:


>> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
>> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.


> just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard
> of them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy
> joe?


I'm going to give this a shot. From memory:

3 layers of rye bread ... thin slices
a layer of turkey
a layer of roast beef
cole slaw
russian dressing

Not necessarily in that order. The turkey and roast beef
were separated by bread. Oddly enough, the sandwiches
were very neat and, I think, quartered. Not sloppy at all.

Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663

nancy



hahabogus 08-10-2007 01:56 AM

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

> Scary, though, my sil (she's from Canada, BTW)


Canadians squirt out babies left and right....It's all that cold, I Figure.
Like my Daughter who (or is it whom) Squirted out my latest Granson in
August.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore


Reg 08-10-2007 02:02 AM

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Nancy Young wrote:

[sloppy joes]

> Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
> for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
>
> http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663


And hey, there's even a pic buried in the

<http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=462>

The little flags say, "North Jersey Rules"

--
Reg


kuvasz guy 08-10-2007 02:15 AM

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On Oct 7, 8:49 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "kuvasz guy" > wrote
>
> > On Oct 7, 5:40 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> >> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
> >> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.

> > just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard
> > of them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy
> > joe?

>
> I'm going to give this a shot. From memory:
>
> 3 layers of rye bread ... thin slices
> a layer of turkey
> a layer of roast beef
> cole slaw
> russian dressing
>
> Not necessarily in that order. The turkey and roast beef
> were separated by bread. Oddly enough, the sandwiches
> were very neat and, I think, quartered. Not sloppy at all.
>
> Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
> for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
>
> http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663
>
> nancy


Pretty close to what I've had; I also like the version that used to be
made locally -- it had ham and swiss cheese as well. It was called a
bigmouth, possibly because of the ham. I guess the cole slaw, russian
dressing and rye make it authentic... :) I've had the version of
the jewish sloppy joe made with pastrami -- good, but not the
same...

...fred


Nancy Young 08-10-2007 02:25 AM

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"kuvasz guy" > wrote

> On Oct 7, 8:49 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> "kuvasz guy" > wrote
>>
>> > On Oct 7, 5:40 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> >> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
>> >> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.
>> > just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard
>> > of them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy
>> > joe?

>>
>> I'm going to give this a shot. From memory:
>>
>> 3 layers of rye bread ... thin slices
>> a layer of turkey
>> a layer of roast beef
>> cole slaw
>> russian dressing
>>
>> Not necessarily in that order. The turkey and roast beef
>> were separated by bread. Oddly enough, the sandwiches
>> were very neat and, I think, quartered. Not sloppy at all.
>>
>> Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
>> for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
>>
>> http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663


> Pretty close to what I've had; I also like the version that used to be
> made locally -- it had ham and swiss cheese as well.


I could be wrong but that's probably not an authentic

JEWISH

sloppy joe.

(laughing) Yes, that's the idea.

> It was called a
> bigmouth, possibly because of the ham. I guess the cole slaw, russian
> dressing and rye make it authentic... :) I've had the version of
> the jewish sloppy joe made with pastrami -- good, but not the
> same...


I get a sandwich at this one place that is made with corned beef.
Very good but not exactly authentic. The discussion on that
link I posted was pretty amusing. Where I found sloppy joes
is probably one of the places they mentioned. I worked in
Short Hills at the time and a friend took me there for lunch.

nancy



Nancy Young 08-10-2007 02:28 AM

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"Reg" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> [sloppy joes]
>
>> Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
>> for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
>>
>> http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663

>
> And hey, there's even a pic buried in the
>
> <http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=462>
>
> The little flags say, "North Jersey Rules"


Heh. You're right, the ones I've had are neater, I guess because
they trim off all the sides, and not so thick. But you get the idea.

nancy



Dee Dee 08-10-2007 03:06 AM

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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>
>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>> sfogliatella.
>>>
>>> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/

>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
>>anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
>>to give their's a try.

>
> I recommend them for anything and everything they sell. They are one
> of the rare, wonderful bakeries still around.
>
> They even made my wedding cake years ago.
>
> Boron


Just a comment. I was looking at the site, and I see the wine they serve is
a Sicilian wine that I am familiar with and DH buys in NJ.
(I like it.)
Dee Dee



J S 08-10-2007 08:04 AM

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>>>Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2007, 8:49pm From:
(Nancy*Young)
Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.
just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard of
them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy joe?
I'm going to give this a shot. From memory:
3 layers of rye bread ... thin slices
a layer of turkey
a layer of roast beef
cole slaw
russian dressing
Not necessarily in that order. The turkey and roast beef were separated
by bread. Oddly enough, the sandwiches were very neat and, I think,
quartered. Not sloppy at all.
Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just for jokes, I
googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663
nancy>>>>>
---------------------------------------------
There were alot of good jewish deli,s on Vauxhall Rd.The one I remember
not nessecerally on that street were Tabachnick,s and Horowitz,s
They were made as you described although some places started making them
with cheese and grilled.Due to kosher details about dairy products
hybrids sarted emerging without cheese.We made them as one large
sandwich with all 3 meat items in the middle on rye or a roll,cole slaw
or saurkraut,russian dressing,a 3 inch thick monster...thus turkey
sloppy joes.or ham sloppy joes,etc(some even threw potato salad in the
middle-which surprisingly was quite good if you,ve never tried it!)
were(are) popular. Youd be amazed what combos are good if you step
outside the box and experiment a little.Everyone and their mother
started different versions..
Cheers Smitty

"Food, Art and Films,What else do you need?...Well.."


Ophelia[_4_] 08-10-2007 01:33 PM

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hahabogus wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Scary, though, my sil (she's from Canada, BTW)

>
> Canadians squirt out babies left and right....It's all that cold, I
> Figure. Like my Daughter who (or is it whom) Squirted out my latest
> Granson in August.


Hmm you *do* have a way of describing things Alan:)




Boron Elgar[_1_] 08-10-2007 03:43 PM

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:06:52 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>>
>>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>>> sfogliatella.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>This is one of those things that I make myself but can't find
>>>anywhere out in the world. Next time I'm in the area I'm going
>>>to give their's a try.

>>
>> I recommend them for anything and everything they sell. They are one
>> of the rare, wonderful bakeries still around.
>>
>> They even made my wedding cake years ago.
>>
>> Boron

>
>Just a comment. I was looking at the site, and I see the wine they serve is
>a Sicilian wine that I am familiar with and DH buys in NJ.
>(I like it.)
>Dee Dee
>


Yes, they have branched out with two restaurants. Excellent food, too.

Boron

Dee Dee 08-10-2007 07:13 PM

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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:06:52 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>>>> sfogliatella.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/
>>>>

> Boron


Thanks again, Boron.
DH says it's close enough to the route he travels to CT to to locate it and
have a sfogliatella and to check out their pastries.

Dee Dee



Boron Elgar[_1_] 08-10-2007 07:30 PM

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:13:33 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:06:52 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:47:58 GMT, Reg > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Calandra's in Fairfield and the original one in Newark have
>>>>>> sfogliatella.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.calandrasbakery.com/
>>>>>

>> Boron

>
>Thanks again, Boron.
>DH says it's close enough to the route he travels to CT to to locate it and
>have a sfogliatella and to check out their pastries.
>
>Dee Dee
>



The pastries are superb. Refrigerated ones to the right. Room temp
ones to the left.

Can you tell I know the place?

Boron



Arri London 09-10-2007 12:02 AM

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Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "kuvasz guy" > wrote
>
> > On Oct 7, 5:40 pm, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
> >> Funny, that's where I had my first jewish sloppy joe, from a little
> >> Jewish deli on Vauxhall Road.

>
> > just curious, since this is my favorite sandwich, and I'd never heard
> > of them until jersey: what do you consider an autrhentic jewish sloppy
> > joe?

>
> I'm going to give this a shot. From memory:
>
> 3 layers of rye bread ... thin slices
> a layer of turkey
> a layer of roast beef
> cole slaw
> russian dressing
>
> Not necessarily in that order. The turkey and roast beef
> were separated by bread. Oddly enough, the sandwiches
> were very neat and, I think, quartered. Not sloppy at all.
>
> Anyone who knows better, feel free to step in. Okay, just
> for jokes, I googled, and this is the first thing that popped up.
>
> http://www.chowhound.com/topics/314663
>
> nancy


Hmmm seem to have missed out on this! Ah well easy enough to make my own
version.


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