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I'll have one of these........

http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg


a cupla these.......

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html


a cupla these....


http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103


and a cupla these......

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg


:-)


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PeterLucas > wrote:

> I'll have one of these........
>
> http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg


Cool.

>
>
> a cupla these.......
>
> http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html


<nods>

>
>
> a cupla these....
>
>
> http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103


Practical. Cheaper ammo.

>
>
> and a cupla these......
>
> http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg


Pretty! Beretta makes nice weapons.
I leant towards them and Taurus since they tend to copy them for a
better price tag.

>
>
> :-)


Hope you have plenty of ammo tho.
Otherwise, those are just clubs... ;-)

That shotgun, above all, is the most practical.

Is that last a 9mm? I could not turn up much info. on it on Google.
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Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
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> In article >,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> I'll have one of these........
>>
>>
http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>
> Cool.
>
>>
>>
>> a cupla these.......
>>
>> http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html

>
> <nods>
>
>>
>>
>> a cupla these....
>>
>>
>> http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103

>
> Practical. Cheaper ammo.
>
>>
>>
>> and a cupla these......
>>
>> http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg

>
> Pretty!



They were all personal weapons that I had in the Army.... along with the
usual AR15/M16's, SLR's etc.


>Beretta makes nice weapons.
> I leant towards them and Taurus since they tend to copy them for a
> better price tag.
>
>>
>>
>> :-)

>
> Hope you have plenty of ammo tho.
> Otherwise, those are just clubs... ;-)



I always have *too* much ammo...... :-)


>
> That shotgun, above all, is the most practical.
>
> Is that last a 9mm? I could not turn up much info. on it on Google.


Yep, 9mm.

http://www.berettagallery.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=457

http://www.berettausa.com/


I actually have two spare 15 round mags here that I picked up in CA just
before Clinton(?) passed the bill banning them.

I used to own 2 of the weapons when I was in the States, and they came
with 15 rd mags, so i bought 2 more for each one. The gun dealer that
sold them to me asked if I was going to start a war!! I replied "No, but
I'll certainly be able to stop one" :-)



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PeterLucas > wrote:

> > Pretty!

>
>
> They were all personal weapons that I had in the Army.... along with the
> usual AR15/M16's, SLR's etc.


Go ahead, make me jealous!

> >
> > Hope you have plenty of ammo tho.
> > Otherwise, those are just clubs... ;-)

>
>
> I always have *too* much ammo...... :-)


You re-load?

>
>
> >
> > That shotgun, above all, is the most practical.
> >
> > Is that last a 9mm? I could not turn up much info. on it on Google.

>
> Yep, 9mm.
>
> http://www.berettagallery.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=457
>
> http://www.berettausa.com/


Sweet.

>
>
> I actually have two spare 15 round mags here that I picked up in CA just
> before Clinton(?) passed the bill banning them.


Love the grandfather clauses.

I have two after market 9mm mags that fit my Taurus that hold 17 rounds.
They were only $25.00 each, new.

>
> I used to own 2 of the weapons when I was in the States, and they came
> with 15 rd mags, so i bought 2 more for each one. The gun dealer that
> sold them to me asked if I was going to start a war!! I replied "No, but
> I'll certainly be able to stop one" :-)


Heh!

The dealers at the Tejas gun shows never question people purchasing
extra mags...

More fun at the many gun ranges around, and good for IDPA competition
shooting.
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Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> > Pretty!

>>
>>
>> They were all personal weapons that I had in the Army.... along with
>> the usual AR15/M16's, SLR's etc.

>
> Go ahead, make me jealous!
>
>> >
>> > Hope you have plenty of ammo tho.
>> > Otherwise, those are just clubs... ;-)

>>
>>
>> I always have *too* much ammo...... :-)

>
> You re-load?
>



Not any more.

After I got out my personals were an SKS with 2 30rd mags, a Remington pump
action 12gauge, and a 92FS.

Then 'Little Johnny' took our guns away :-(


Well, most of them anyway ;-)


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PeterLucas > wrote:

> > You re-load?
> >

>
>
> Not any more.
>
> After I got out my personals were an SKS with 2 30rd mags, a Remington pump
> action 12gauge, and a 92FS.
>
> Then 'Little Johnny' took our guns away :-(
>
>
> Well, most of them anyway ;-)


Don't tell the world babe... ;-)
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Omelet > wrote in
news
> In article >,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> > You re-load?
>> >

>>
>>
>> Not any more.
>>
>> After I got out my personals were an SKS with 2 30rd mags, a
>> Remington pump action 12gauge, and a 92FS.
>>
>> Then 'Little Johnny' took our guns away :-(
>>
>>
>> Well, most of them anyway ;-)

>
> Don't tell the world babe... ;-)



Yep, know that from long and painful experience.

Funny thing..... the last time I mentioned those weapons (PSG1, MP5 etc) I
had some pathetic stalking prick take out a Restraining Order against me
and it had the cops searching my house for those weapons!!

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
wrote:

>Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
:
>
>
>
>I'll have one of these........
>
>http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>
>
>a cupla these.......
>
>http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>
>
>a cupla these....
>
>
>http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>
>
>and a cupla these......
>
>http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>
>
>:-)
>


jesus, how many penis substitutes does one man really need?

your pal,
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
> wrote:
>
> >Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
> :
> >
> >
> >
> >I'll have one of these........
> >
> >http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
> >
> >
> >a cupla these.......
> >
> >http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
> >
> >
> >a cupla these....
> >
> >
> >http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
> >
> >
> >and a cupla these......
> >
> >http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
> >
> >
> >:-)
> >

>
> jesus, how many penis substitutes does one man really need?
>
> your pal,
> blake


If you don't need even one, jpegs please?
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:17:40 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
>> :
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I'll have one of these........
>> >
>> >http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >a cupla these.......
>> >
>> >http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>> >
>> >
>> >a cupla these....
>> >
>> >
>> >http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>> >
>> >
>> >and a cupla these......
>> >
>> >http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >:-)
>> >

>>
>> jesus, how many penis substitutes does one man really need?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>If you don't need even one, jpegs please?


modesty forbids me. plus i don't have a camera.

your pal,
blake


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blake murphy > wrote:

> >If you don't need even one, jpegs please?

>
> modesty forbids me. plus i don't have a camera.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Got a cellphone?
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:35:28 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> >If you don't need even one, jpegs please?

>>
>> modesty forbids me. plus i don't have a camera.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>Got a cellphone?


nope. you're lucky i got this here steam-powered computer.

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blake murphy > wrote in
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> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
> wrote:
>
>>Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
:
>>
>>
>>
>>I'll have one of these........
>>
>>http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>>
>>
>>a cupla these.......
>>
>>http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>>
>>
>>a cupla these....
>>
>>
>>http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>>
>>
>>and a cupla these......
>>
>>http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>>
>>
>>:-)
>>

>
> jesus, how many penis substitutes does one man really need?
>



For your information, Blakey, that is a very good cross-section of about
the only weapons you need for self-contained self-defence. A long arm
for accurate long range work, the MP5's for medium range or CQB, the
SPAS12 for medium range and 'lock picking', and the Berettas for back-
up.

But I understand your complete lack of knowledge on these things. It's
hard to crochet your doilies if your involved with weapons, isn't it?

Go back to your knitting, girlie.

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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:36:25 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
wrote:

>blake murphy > wrote in
>news >
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I'll have one of these........
>>>
>>>http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>a cupla these.......
>>>
>>>http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>>>
>>>
>>>a cupla these....
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>>>
>>>
>>>and a cupla these......
>>>
>>>http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>

>>
>> jesus, how many penis substitutes does one man really need?
>>

>
>
>For your information, Blakey, that is a very good cross-section of about
>the only weapons you need for self-contained self-defence. A long arm
>for accurate long range work, the MP5's for medium range or CQB, the
>SPAS12 for medium range and 'lock picking', and the Berettas for back-
>up.
>
>But I understand your complete lack of knowledge on these things. It's
>hard to crochet your doilies if your involved with weapons, isn't it?
>
>Go back to your knitting, girlie.


ooh, ohh, another stinging insult! if i'm not interested in guns i
must be a girly-man! well, i've certainly been put in my place.

your pal,
blake <sobbing into doily>
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PeterLucas wrote:
> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
> :
>
>
>
> I'll have one of these........
>
>
http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>
>
> a cupla these.......
>
> http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>
>
> a cupla these....
>
>
> http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>
>
> and a cupla these......
>
> http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>
>
> :-)




Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
against an army of brain-eating zombies:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx

....and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.

It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting (with
..357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.

Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.

Bob


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zxcvbob > wrote in news:5kqvlaF50tlkU1
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> PeterLucas wrote:
>> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll have one of these........
>>
>>
http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
>>
>>
>> a cupla these.......
>>
>> http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
>>
>>
>> a cupla these....
>>
>>
>> http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
>>
>>
>> and a cupla these......
>>
>> http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
>>
>>
>> :-)

>
>
>
> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>
> http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx



LOL!! Got a Stetson to go with that??


>
> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>
> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting

(with
> .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.



Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, roast Bambi, yum :-)



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zxcvbob wrote:
> PeterLucas wrote:
>> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
>> :


> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>
>
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
>
> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>
> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting
> (with .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi
> menace.
>
> Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>
> Bob


Walmart?

http://downloads.walmart.com/catalog...uct_id=3138517



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"tom" > wrote in :

> zxcvbob wrote:
>> PeterLucas wrote:
>>> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
>>> :

>
>> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
>> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>>
>>
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
>>
>> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>>
>> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting
>> (with .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi
>> menace.
>>
>> Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>>
>> Bob

>
> Walmart?
>
> http://downloads.walmart.com/catalog...uct_id=3138517
>
>
>
>




Damn!! Walmart has *everything*!!!
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tom wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>> PeterLucas wrote:
>>> Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
>>> :

>
>> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
>> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>>
>>
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
>>
>> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>>
>> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting
>> (with .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi
>> menace.
>>
>> Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>>
>> Bob

>
> Walmart?
>
> http://downloads.walmart.com/catalog...uct_id=3138517
>




No, I ordered it from KempfGunShop.com about a year-and-a-half ago and
had it shipped to my local firearm dealer for transfer.

Bob
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says...
> PeterLucas wrote:
> > Omelet > wrote in newsmp_omelet-
> >
:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll have one of these........
> >
> >
http://www.gunslot.com/sites/gunslot.../hk_psg1_l.jpg
> >
> >
> > a cupla these.......
> >
> > http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp5sd_general.html
> >
> >
> > a cupla these....
> >
> >
> > http://www.militaryfactory.com/small...allarms_id=103
> >
> >
> > and a cupla these......
> >
> > http://www.gunshopfinder.com/beretta...adier_Inox.jpg
> >
> >
> > :-)

>
>
>
> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>
> http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
>
> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>
> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting (with
> .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.
>
> Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>
> Bob
>



I have one of these already:

http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products

That and a .22 pistol should do me well.



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T > wrote:

> I have one of these already:
>
> http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products
>
> That and a .22 pistol should do me well.


Good thought, but neither one of those is concealable?
I'll never argue with the value of a good shotgun.

"Are you packing or are you just happy to see me"?

<g>

..22 is not a viable self-defense weapon.
There is a reason that state law makes you qualify with at least a .38
iirc?

A .380 might be okay too. I'd have to re-check. ('course we are talking
about Texas law and they vary from state to state quite a bit).

I used a 9mm.

9mm ammo is really not that bad in price. Neither is .40 since law
enforcement uses that a lot. Supply and demand keep the price down.

Only drawback is that if you are only used to a .22 pistol, you'd have
to get used to the heavier recoil of the larger calibers to gain any
accuracy.

I did recently purchase a 9 shot .22 revolver tho' to cut my target
practice costs. They ARE valuable for grip and trigger control practice.
I got a very good deal on it. SA/DA trigger, rear loader. The cylinder
loads from the back like a cowboy action revolver:

http://i16.tinypic.com/523cs2q.jpg
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> T > wrote:
>
>> I have one of these already:
>>
>> http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products
>>
>> That and a .22 pistol should do me well.

>
> Good thought, but neither one of those is concealable?
> I'll never argue with the value of a good shotgun.
>

I think we can thank (or condemn) Katrina for this:

http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-.../?Template=Pro
dDetail.htm&ProductID=27187
(or)
http://tinyurl.com/g44x7


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> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> T > wrote:
>>
>>> I have one of these already:
>>>
>>> http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products
>>>
>>> That and a .22 pistol should do me well.

>>
>> Good thought, but neither one of those is concealable?
>> I'll never argue with the value of a good shotgun.
>>

> I think we can thank (or condemn) Katrina for this:
>
> http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-...PSZ/?Template=
> Pro dDetail.htm&ProductID=27187
> (or)
> http://tinyurl.com/g44x7



Nice kit!

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In article >, "tom" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > T > wrote:
> >
> >> I have one of these already:
> >>
> >> http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products
> >>
> >> That and a .22 pistol should do me well.

> >
> > Good thought, but neither one of those is concealable?
> > I'll never argue with the value of a good shotgun.
> >

> I think we can thank (or condemn) Katrina for this:
>
> http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-.../?Template=Pro
> dDetail.htm&ProductID=27187
> (or)
> http://tinyurl.com/g44x7


Interesting. ;-)

Talk about creative marketing.
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"tom" > wrote in :

> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> T > wrote:
>>
>>> I have one of these already:
>>>
>>> http://www.mossberg.com/products/def...ction=products
>>>
>>> That and a .22 pistol should do me well.

>>
>> Good thought, but neither one of those is concealable?
>> I'll never argue with the value of a good shotgun.
>>

> I think we can thank (or condemn) Katrina for this:
>
> http://personalsecurityzone.com/cgi-...e/PSZ/?Templat
> e=Pro dDetail.htm&ProductID=27187
> (or)
> http://tinyurl.com/g44x7
>
>
>



NOICE!!!!!!!!


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In article >,
zxcvbob > wrote:

> Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
> against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>
> http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx


Nice.

My Win .308 is a lever action.
You can move pretty fast with those.

But for more urban warfare, there is always this:

http://i9.tinypic.com/4z8uj4h.jpg

New toy. I've not fired it yet.
The barrel is long enough to take an extended magazine which I've
considered getting from Mossberg.

>
> ...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>
> It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting (with
> .357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.


Roast venison! (on topic)

>
> Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>
> Bob


Wal-mart has some hunting t's right now.
One had a logo "A hunters nightmare" printed on it with a picture of a
deer that was camo colored. ;-)

I should get one, or at least take a pic.

It'd make a cool range shirt.
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:14:32 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>
>Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
>against an army of brain-eating zombies:
>
>http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
>
>...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
>
>It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting (with
>.357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.
>
>Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
>
>Bob


tsk, tsk. it's not even semi-automatic. and you call yourself a man.

your pal,
blake

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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:14:32 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Here's mine, for when civilization collapses and I have to defend
> >against an army of brain-eating zombies:
> >
> >http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ire/1894C.aspx
> >
> >...and several big coffee-cans of .38 Special ammo for it.
> >
> >It's fun and cheap to shoot. I really should take it deer hunting (with
> >.357 ammo instead of .38) to do my part to control the Bambi menace.
> >
> >Hmmm. Brain-eating zombie deer. [shiver] I just scared myself.
> >
> >Bob

>
> tsk, tsk. it's not even semi-automatic. and you call yourself a man.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Trust me. Semi-autos are not necessary if one knows their way around a
good lever action rifle. ;-)
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