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On May 20, 9:18 am, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer >
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> The following is from an online forum I don't normally ever read but was
> found in a newsgroup. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PERCEPTIVE COMMENTARIES AND
> GUIDES FOR ACTION REGARDING THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRISIS THAT I'VE EVER SEEN.
>
> PLEASE CONSIDER PASSING IT ALONG TO OTHERS.
>
> THE COUNTRY YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN.
> ------------------------------------------
> STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!
> 05-17-2007
>
> Posted on 05/16/2007 by Cacique
>
> Many of you who know me from either my pings or past posts and FReeps may
> know that I do not post that often since I have been here. But recent
> events and what appears to be a penchant by the elites to ram changes in
> law and the constitution down our throats, regardless of the fact that most
> Americans oppose such changes has prompted me to write this about an issue
> I think is critical to the both the long term and short term future of this
> country. I am of course speaking of that farce in the senate under the
> guise of reform, but which is in reality a mass amnesty for people who are
> here illegally. Many who arguably mean to do harm to this country.
>
> To begin with, I feel I must tell you a bit about myself and my credentials
> on this subject so that you understand why I urge you to act now.
>
> I am a legal immigrant to this country who arrived here on my 10th birthday
> with my parents in April of 1962. I was born in Latin America and I am
> tri-lingual and fluent in all three languages I speak. Spanish is of course
> one of them. Things were different way back then, at least as far as
> immigration laws were concerned. My parents and I had to wait several years
> to be given permission to emigrate here. At that time I had both an Uncle
> and an Aunt living in the Unites States, a sister and a brother of my
> mother's. It was her wish to join them that convinced my father to move
> here although initially he was against it. Since there was no family
> reunification at the time he had to get someone else to vouch for him (so
> he wouldn't become a vagrant dependent on the state) and obtain employment
> before coming here before he would even be allowed to emigrate. My father
> should have had an edge due to the fact that he had served with US forces
> during World War II under the command of US officers in what were then
> known as "Slavonic" Divisions. None of that mattered, he had to stand in
> line like everyone else.
>
> I could bore you with more details but I simply bring these things up as a
> reference point to what follows.
>
> I am a political scientist by training a PhD Candidate at the CUNY graduate
> Center, otherwise known as an ABD. I have been involved in numerous
> political campaigns starting with Giuliani's first run for mayor (a race he
> lost to Dinkins). I have run assembly campaigns, a US Senate campaign and a
> US Congressional campaign. I have been active in politics for all of my
> adult life and have traveled the ideological road from being a committed
> Marxist and Stalinist in my College years to being a staunch conservative
> republican today. I think I know a thing or two about politics and what
> makes both people on the left and the right tick.
>
> I am familiar with Latin culture not only from an academic perspective, but
> also from an interactive one, as I interact with all my fellow Latinos each
> and very day. I know what they think and I know what their attitudes are as
> they will tell me things they will not tell outsiders. a couple of years
> ago I posted a piece by Sam Huntington that I believe is a must read by all
> here.
>
> Fast forward to the present and I currently live in a section in Brooklyn,
> New York that is by all accounts a major focus of illegal immigrants.
> Mostly from Mexico, Ecuador and San Salvador with a sprinkling of
> Dominicans and even Chinese illegals.
>
> Very briefly I will tell you that if there is an amnesty in this country
> America as we know will cease to exist in less than a generation. I am
> totally dismayed that many countries in the West have opted to commit
> national suicide and we seem to have decided to join them.
>
> The elites in Washington have decided that their short term interests trump
> the long term interests of the nation. The issue of immigration is NOT a
> democratic or republican issue. IT IS a national issue. The supporters of
> amnesty have narrow interests that are either economic or political short
> term interests without having given any thought whatsoever. The crowd in
> Washington goes to the same clubs, eats in the same restaurants, live in
> gated communities and socialize with other members of the financial and
> political elites. Any negative impacts on the society at large they tend to
> be immune from. It is clear there is a faction that is hell bent on
> depressing wages and attract cheap manual labor in order to compete with
> third world hellholes. At the same time the catholic church is salivating
> at the prospect of filling the pews and collection baskets in their
> churches. The activists in the democratic party are salivating at the
> prospect of another underclass they can control and exploit. All these
> forces have coalesced to bring about the present situation. Polls have been
> consistent in that over 68% of american voters oppose amnesty to illegal
> immigrants. Over 60% of union households oppose amnesty. Yet the elites are
> in total disconnect with this because they have decided the public can do
> nothing to stop them and will likely not do anything to penalize them
> later. What matters to them is the fact that corporate donors who fund
> their campaigns have made no bones about the fact that they want an
> amnesty, or more precisely they demand one.
>
> A few myths
>
> The excuses to support amnesty are many and varied. One is that most of
> these hispanics are family oriented and will become conservative. The real
> fact is that most illegals come from the poverty stricken lower classes.
> Many have relationships and children out of wedlock. The catholicism they
> practice is much closer to the "liberation theology" variant which is
> nothing more than Marxism with a God. They bring with them a deep class
> resentment of not only the wealthy but the middle classes and a racist
> resentment of whites. Latin American Christianity is also a heavy admixture
> of traditional pre-colombian gods and elements and would be totally
> unrecognizable to catholics here. The church pretends all these people are
> catholics so they can claim their numbers.
>
> Democrats have a delusion that they will be able to manipulate them and
> garner their votes. Activists in their community are very much aware of
> this. Most latin american marxists are much closer to the stalinist type
> than the fashionista left in this country who is leftist because it's the
> fashion of their peers. Latinos who are marxists, are committed doctrinaire
> marxists much closer to the Cuban or North Korean model. They have little
> use for rich white kids who want to be weekend revolutionaries. They also
> understand that they have a greater chance of projecting power and
> influence if they keep their communities in control and separate. I had
> expected them to demand schools exclusively in spanish but they were beaten
> by the muslims by a hair here in brooklyn. The Madrasa in brooklyn may have
> been delayed but it is only a matter of time before the demands will
> surface again. Accusations of cultural imperialism and racism will be
> lodged against those that demand they assimilate. The "community leaders"
> know full well that any assimilation is a dilution of their power,
> therefore they will promote the opposite.
>
> Any comparisons between immigrants of today and those of yesteryear are
> irrelevant. They were different times and the world was quite different. In
> 1900 an immigrant to America came on a one way trip, he knew he was not
> going back. Entire villages collected money for the trip to send one of
> their own. Passage meant at least a year's wages even in steerage. Today's
> immigrant is a cheap plane ticked and a few hours away from home. He
> arrives to a country where he can feel at home in an insular community
> where his language is spoken. There are radio and television stations
> available in his own language as well as newspapers and magazines. Mass
> communications means he is just a phone call away from speaking to his
> friends back home. The economies of scale make all of this possible in
> today's world. Today's immigrant is helped by modern technology to feel
> like he is home in any community of his compatriots abroad. And should he
> feel homesick it takes only a couple of week's wages and a plane ticket to
> return home for a visit. None of these things were available to the
> immigrant a century ago. Another difference is that the immigrant of a
> century ago came mostly from Western countries to another western country
> the main difference being the food and language from where he came from.
>
> Latin America is nominally Western. The western portion resides in the main
> cities and among the educated. In most countries with the possible
> exception of Argentina and Brazil the indigenous cultures that were found
> by the conquistadores still exist in stark contrast to what one finds in
> the cities. It is those who are predominantly the "mojados" that one finds
> in this country, not the country club upper class that Bush hob nobs with.
>
> Two things happened in Spain in 1492. One was the trip by Cristobal Colon.
> The other was the final conquest of Andalus. The inquisition was organized
> mainly to reconvert all those souls who were under islam for 700 years. The
> result is that many of the conquistadores who came here were a generation
> away from being muslims. They brought with them a world view much closer to
> islam than the view of a sophisticated catholic from Italy. The concepts of
> machismo, guerra sin cuarto, Caudillismo etc. are elements from the islamic
> period that remained a part of spanish culture in Latin America. There are
> a lot of parallels between Latin American culture in it's conservatism and
> what one would find in the middle east. This is something that needs to be
> kept in mind.
>
> Assimilation is not a guaranteed phenomenon. We have currently numerous
> groups that have as yet not assimilated even though they have been here for
> over a century. I can think of the Hasidic jews for starters, or the Amish,
> or perhaps the Hutterites. The only difference is that their theology has
> nothing in it that compels them to try to conquer our lands and convert us.
>
> Demographics
>
> I don't think I need to write much on the birth rate factor. One can search
> all over the net to see the statistics. Muslims and illegals are the
> fastest reproducing segment of the population. As the population shifts and
> new groups become more numerous the power center will shift. The losers?
> Indigenous american indians, caucasians and blacks.
>
> There is the lie that there are only 12 million illegals in this country.
> That number keeps getting thrown around as if is gospel. The fact is that
> we have no clue how many are here. If one takes the estimate that ten years
> ago there were 10,000 crossings a day at the border and extrapolates 3.5
> million illegals a year then we can rest assured the 12 million figure is
> totally wrong. It could be as high as 35 million or even as high as 70
> million. Do a search on the web and you will see that all the claims could
> be valid. remember the last amnesty in 1984? I do. We were promised that
> they would secure the borders, that the amnesty would mean that fewer
> people would come and that we would enforce immigration laws. Of course it
> was all naive and a pipe dream. Think this amnesty will stop more people
> coming? You haven't seen anything yet. Once people all over the world get
> wind of what a bunch of chumps we are they will come over in droves like we
> have never seen. You can't feed a crocodile and expect it to be satisfied
> with a morsel.
>
> The losers
>
> So who will lose if there's amnesty? Oddly enough most of the big losers
> are part of the grand democratic coalition. Union workers, their leaders
> only see more members, the rank and file will fall to depressed wages and
> downward pressures in their standard of living. Blacks will lose influence
> as a group and will be played off against the emerging mexican hispanic
> power block. Their population which reached a peak of 14% of the population
> is in decline and will continue to decline as illegals have more children.
> Women will find that the male dominated culture of machismo and the
> misogynist muslim outlook will make for interesting times in the future.
> Gays will find much less tolerance among Latinos and Muslims for their
> lifestyle, even from the left. They ought to get an idea at how gays are
> treated in Cuba to get a hint. The middle class as always will face
> increasing taxation to pay for all the programs and services that will be
> demanded by the new majorities. The elderly will find that most of the new
> workers brought in to prop up the welfare state will have little tolerance
> to pay for those on the retirement dole. That will have implications in the
> near future. Other hispanics, in particular Puerto Ricans and Dominicans
> who will find themselves elbowed out by the Mexicans. This phenomenon is
> already happening in the hispanic caucus and other national hispanic
> organizations where the divisions among hispanics are coming into the open.
> For many hispanics who are second and third generation americans the
> honeymoon is begriming to come to an end. Jews will find perhaps a rise in
> anti semitism. Latin America is home to a particularly virulent form that
> rears it's ugly head quite often. Ingrained in Spanish catholicism and fed
> by marxist solidarity for arabs it will always be there under the surface.
> Republicans and Conservatives we will be the biggest losers in this game.
> Most of the activists among the Mecha and Aztlan types are already forging
> alliances with radicals in the muslim community. We may get a few new
> republicans from these new immigrants, but the reality is that the class
> and race hatred that many of them bring with them will likely be passed on
> to new generations as they are in most groups.
>
> The next stage
>
> I could go on and write a dissertation on the subject, but that is not my
> purpose nor is there time for that. One side argues that we can;'t get rid
> of all illegals in this country. I believe they are wrong. They don't want
> to get rid of the illegals here. There was a time not long ago, about 15
> years ago that New York was home to one of the largest communities of
> illegal Irish immigrants. It was estimated at the time there were upwards
> of half a million illegal irish immigrants in New York. An interesting
> thing happened though. It was the Irish miracle, the economy took a turn
> North and opportunities were everywhere. The result is that almost all of
> those half million illegals returned home. It was a matter of incentive. If
> you make it difficult for illegals to work in this country and punish those
> who hire them I guarantee you will see the phenomenon repeated again.
>
> What is to be done?
>
> In 1902 V.I. Lenin published a pamphlet entitled "What is To Be Done?" it
> was a blueprint for his political ideas on taking power. In a way, we need
> our own approach to this problem. The issue of immigration is an issue that
> affects all of us in a very likely negative way far beyond our political
> ideologies if we are Americans. We need to reach out and awaken all those
> groups that do not currently see the urgency but who will be adversely
> affected by the coming changes. We need a coalition of the unlikely.
>
> We need to reach out to rank and file workers, both union and outside. This
> has to be a grassroots mobilization made up of individuals rather than a
> national organization. American Hispanics born here must understand that
> they are about to be elbowed out and will lose big time. Gays must
> understand that if they think Jerry Falwell was bad for them, they haven't
> seen intolerance yet. Women must understand that any gains they may have
> had with regards to the workplace and society can be swept away just as
> easily as they have been put in place. Jews must understand that the rising
> anti semitism will get worse, not better.
>
> A postage stamp an envelope and e-mail
>
> In politics as in economics, perception is reality. The level of commitment
> by an opponent is gauged by his determination and how much he is willing to
> invest in opposing something. The anti-amnesty crowd has not been very
> successful because they have been disorganized and have been painted as
> racists and bigots as the Minutemen have. You cannot give them a target to
> latch onto. Responding to such attacks gives only credence to the attacker.
> This has to be totally a citizen to citizen uprising. If you know other
> Hispanics who oppose amnesty contact the. Have Black friends? Explain to
> them how they stand to lose out (they know already) start networking. Call
> all your acquaintances and friends and send them e-mails. Fear is a great
> motivator, it is the one thing that moves people to action and motivates
> them to show up at the polls.
>
> DO NOT JUST SEND EMAILS TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR. For the most part
> they get deleted as spam and don't have much impact. It also shows a lack
> of commitment and that you are lazy. INSTEAD INVEST IN POSTAGE STAMPS.
> There is nothing more impressive than postal service trucks showing up at
> congress with bags full of envelopes with paper mail.
>
> USE THE PHONES, CALL AND CLOG THEIR LINES. ONA CELLPHONE A CALL TO
> WASHINGTON IS A LOCAL CALL. Faxes are a waste of time. There is a physical
> limit to how many faxes a fax machine can receive.
>
> FReerepublic is the right place to start this. But we must reach out from
> beyond our narrow confines. Beyond conservatives, beyond republicans,
> beyond democrats.
>
> Do this as if your future depends on it, because it does.
>
> Do this as if your children's future depends on it, because it does.
>
> Do this as if the nation's future depends on it, because it does.
>
> SEND AN ENVELOPE WITH A PERSONAL LETTER TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN, YOUR SENATOR.
> CALL THE LOCAL COUNTY LEADERS. DON'T LIMIT IT TO WASHINGTON, CALL THE LOCAL
> POLITICIANS AS WELL. THE GOVERNOR OF YOUR STATE ETC.
>
> YOU MUST RAISE HELL!! THE ONLY WAY TO BE HEARD IS TO YELL.
>
> Source:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834958/posts
> **********************************************
> PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
>
> "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonaldwww.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
>
> http://www.PredatoryAliens.comwww.Im...a lAliens.org
> See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:www.ImmigrationCounters.com
> ---------------------------------------------
> "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
> ("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
>
> -- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
> organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
> (Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
> ---------------------------------------------
> "How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
> By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
>
> Excerpt:
>
> "General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
> highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
> by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
> 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
> in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
> of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
> Government ..."
>
> "Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
> president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
> office.
>
> "America 'was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
> scale,' Mr. Brownell said. 'When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
> thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.'"
> --------------------------------------------------
> Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:www.DeputyDavidMarch.comwww.KrisEggle.org
>
> "Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
> criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
> numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
> some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
> a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
> addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
> prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
> population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
> felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
> aliens."
>
> -- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
> Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
> warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
> most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
>
> "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
> tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
> men."
> -- Samuel Adams
>
> ""All great truths begin as heresies."
>
> -- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
> Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
> and public services for illegal aliens

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