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Here's a site which has lots of weird old
food-related pictures from magazines.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/

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On Apr 13, 12:56 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
> food-related pictures from magazines.
>
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>
> There's a button at the bottom of the page
> for advancing to the next page.


I like the beer keg one..."AT LAST, science has done something really
worth while". Give thanks for modern science!

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Mark Thorson wrote:
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> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
> food-related pictures from magazines.
>
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>
> There's a button at the bottom of the page
> for advancing to the next page.


My gawd I am a relic.
I remember some of those articles.

I like the 19668 ad for a microwave oven. Only $545. Back then I was making
$1 per hour at my part time job. If I had been working full time for the
same rate of pay it would take a month and a half to buy it. The last
microwave I bought cost me three hours pay.
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> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>
>> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
>> food-related pictures from magazines.
>>
>> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>>
>> There's a button at the bottom of the page
>> for advancing to the next page.

>
> My gawd I am a relic.
> I remember some of those articles.
>
> I like the 19668 ad for a microwave oven. Only $545. Back then I was making
> $1 per hour at my part time job. If I had been working full time for the
> same rate of pay it would take a month and a half to buy it. The last
> microwave I bought cost me three hours pay.


That was a very very new technology - I saw my first one at the opening year at
Disneyland it was part of the "home of the Future" exhibit IIRC they made a
roast chicken in the time it took to complete the show. At that time is was
called a RADAR Range.

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>> I like the 19668 ad for a microwave oven. Only $545. Back then I was making
>> $1 per hour at my part time job. If I had been working full time for the
>> same rate of pay it would take a month and a half to buy it. The last
>> microwave I bought cost me three hours pay.

>
> That was a very very new technology - I saw my first one at the opening year at
> Disneyland it was part of the "home of the Future" exhibit IIRC they made a
> roast chicken in the time it took to complete the show. At that time is was
> called a RADAR Range.
>
> Dimitri
>


I remember seeing my first microwave at an air show at our local airport
(in MA) in the mid 50's. They "baked" a cupcake in...3 minutes or so.
I didn't see another one for about 20 years.

RADAR Range was an Amana trademark, wasn't it?

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> I remember seeing my first microwave at an air show at our local airport
> (in MA) in the mid 50's. They "baked" a cupcake in...3 minutes or so.
> I didn't see another one for about 20 years.
>
> RADAR Range was an Amana trademark, wasn't it?


There's probably a reason you would have seen it in Massachusetts, as the
technology was developed by Raytheon, which is headquartered there. The
microwave oven came about quite accidently when an engineer working on radar
magnetron noticed a candy bar in his pocket had melted. He was intrigued and
then tried getting popcorn next to it, and it popped. The next day he and a
colleague tried an egg... and we can all imagine what happened to that. This
was around 1946.

From that Raytheon developed the microwave oven. The first commercial
products were not very successful in the market. It was not until later
after Raytheon acquired Amana that a successful consumer microwave was
introduced by Amana in 1967. It was small enough and cheap enough
(relatively speaking) to be useful. "RadaRange" rather than "Radar Range"
was the name used by Amana. It alludes to the microwave's origins in the
radar world, where Raytheon was a big player.

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> That was a very very new technology - I saw my first one at the
> opening year at Disneyland it was part of the "home of the Future"
> exhibit IIRC they made a roast chicken in the time it took to
> complete the show. At that time is was called a RADAR Range.


My first was at the US Air Force Academy in 1974. They had a sign warning
anyone with a pace maker not to go past a point some distance from it.

RADAR Range was an Amana trademark. "If it doesn't say Amana, it's not a
RADAR Range."


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"Dave Smith" > wrote:
> I like the 19668 ad for a microwave oven. Only $545. Back then I was
> making
> $1 per hour at my part time job. If I had been working full time for the
> same rate of pay it would take a month and a half to buy it. The last
> microwave I bought cost me three hours pay.


I just had to page down to see that. I was very surprised by the brand. I
was expecting it to be an Amana Radarange, but it's another brand,
International. I had no idea anyone else besides Amana was making one back
then.

My grandmother just had to have the latest of everything, so she had a
microwave by the summer of 1968. Her's was the Amana Radarange. She was so
proud of it and she cooked hamburgers for all our family with it. She put a
raw ground beef patty onto a bun, put it in the microwave and cooked it.
Though it was amazing to see a hamburger cooked directly in the bun, there
was a flaw in the plan. The rendered fat saturates the bun. Not real
appetizing, plus the burger doesn't get browned. She ended up getting an
electric meat grinder to make her own very lean ground beef to try and solve
the problem. But she eventually gave up on that technique. I've inherited
that meat grinder and now use it to make my own ground beef... but I don't
use it the way she did.

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Mark Thorson wrote:
> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
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>
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>
> There's a button at the bottom of the page
> for advancing to the next page.


Well heck, everyone needs a gadget that will cook hot dogs in your car! And
what's up with that kelp/seaweed "bread"? Only in California...

Jill


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> Personally I like the all in one kitchen myself. I can't even imagine it
> considering how small it was. OTOH, I suppose if you live in a really
> small, one room efficiency it might be handy. I wonder how popular those
> things were in college dorms.


I remember a fancy hot dog cooker that we had in the late 50s or early 60s.
It had a flip up top and a row of pointed metal prongs long each side. You
stuck the wieners into the a set of prongs and plugged it in and it cooked
the wieners. It worked, but the end product was not great. I always
thought wieners tasted better either steamed or BBQed.


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"Dave Smith" > wrote:
> I remember a fancy hot dog cooker that we had in the late 50s or early
> 60s.
> It had a flip up top and a row of pointed metal prongs long each side.
> You
> stuck the wieners into the a set of prongs and plugged it in and it cooked
> the wieners. It worked, but the end product was not great. I always
> thought wieners tasted better either steamed or BBQed.


If you want to get one, they're always available on eBay. It's called the
Presto Hot Dogger. Here's one that is currently at a bid of $0.99:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290104604610

This one is a later one, probably from the 1970s. The earlier ones looked a
bit different, with a red plastic housing. But they all worked the same way.

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> "Dave Smith" > wrote:
>> I remember a fancy hot dog cooker that we had in the late 50s or early
>> 60s.
>> It had a flip up top and a row of pointed metal prongs long each
>> side. You
>> stuck the wieners into the a set of prongs and plugged it in and it
>> cooked
>> the wieners. It worked, but the end product was not great. I always
>> thought wieners tasted better either steamed or BBQed.

>
> If you want to get one, they're always available on eBay. It's called
> the Presto Hot Dogger. Here's one that is currently at a bid of $0.99:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290104604610
>
> This one is a later one, probably from the 1970s. The earlier ones
> looked a bit different, with a red plastic housing. But they all worked
> the same way.
>



They still make them?
I had forgotten that they cooked the wieners so quickly. We used a few
times more or less to enjoy the novelty of it, but they were not very
good.
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> They still make them?
> I had forgotten that they cooked the wieners so quickly. We used a few
> times more or less to enjoy the novelty of it, but they were not very
> good.


No, they haven't made them in about 30 years. Those on eBay are all
"vintage" ones. I believe they stopped making them because they were a fire
hazard. In the 1970s they really started paying attention to product safety.
I'm not sure, but I imagine if you put the hot dogs in and then get
distracted and forget, they'd probably catch on fire.

My parents had one (after I moved out) and used it more as a novelty thing
too. I'm not sure what they eventually did with it. It's not like there's
much on it to break, that's for sure. The heating element is the hot dog
itself! ;-)

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> "Dave Smith" > wrote:
> > I remember a fancy hot dog cooker that we had in the late 50s or early
> > 60s.
> > It had a flip up top and a row of pointed metal prongs long each side.
> > You
> > stuck the wieners into the a set of prongs and plugged it in and it cooked
> > the wieners. It worked, but the end product was not great. I always
> > thought wieners tasted better either steamed or BBQed.

>
> If you want to get one, they're always available on eBay. It's called the
> Presto Hot Dogger. Here's one that is currently at a bid of $0.99:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290104604610
>
> This one is a later one, probably from the 1970s. The earlier ones looked a
> bit different, with a red plastic housing. But they all worked the same way.
>
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The Regal catalogue has one that cooks the buns and weiners. Pops
down like a toaster...."only" 29.95 Makes two..... What a laugh.....
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Dave Smith wrote:

> I remember a fancy hot dog cooker that we had in the late 50s or early 60s.
> It had a flip up top and a row of pointed metal prongs long each side. You
> stuck the wieners into the a set of prongs and plugged it in and it cooked
> the wieners. It worked, but the end product was not great. I always
> thought wieners tasted better either steamed or BBQed.


Presto Hot Dogger. If it wasn't a copy, anyway.

The electric chair for wieners!


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"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
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> "jmcquown" >
> :
>
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
>>> food-related pictures from magazines.
>>>
>>> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>>>
>>> There's a button at the bottom of the page
>>> for advancing to the next page.

>>
>> Well heck, everyone needs a gadget that will cook hot dogs in your
>> car! And what's up with that kelp/seaweed "bread"? Only in
>> California...
>>
>> Jill

>
> Krrrreeeeiissstttt Jill. Don't give 'em any ideas. You'll be seeing
> these
> lumbering SUVs and mini vans careening all over the road whilst mom/dad is
> carting the children to... well... something. H/She'll be yapping on the
> cell phone, making dinner for the kids (hot dogs) while the kids are glued
> to the DVD player in the rear of the vehicle. Of course operating the
> motor vehicle safely is a very minor concern which only takes a very
> miniscule amount of attention away from the more important motoring
> issues.
>
> Personally I like the all in one kitchen myself. I can't even imagine it
> considering how small it was. OTOH, I suppose if you live in a really
> small, one room efficiency it might be handy. I wonder how popular those
> things were in college dorms.


But how did they keep the refrigerator cold if the stove or the oven was on?
Hmmm seems like it would have been a huge strain on the cooling system. But
then again I am probably over thinking it.

Cindi

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> But how did they keep the refrigerator cold if the stove or
> the oven was on? Hmmm seems like it would have been a huge strain
> on the cooling system. But then again I am probably over thinking it.


Insulation? A few inches of cork would do it.
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> Personally I like the all in one kitchen myself. I can't even imagine it
> considering how small it was. OTOH, I suppose if you live in a really
> small, one room efficiency it might be handy. I wonder how popular those
> things were in college dorms.
>



Hah! When I attended a well-ranked small college in the mid 60's we
weren't allowed to have ANY electric appliances in our rooms other than
a clock radio, a hair dryer, and maybe a small stereo. They were old
New England buildings with old wiring and couldn't take the current
draw. Oh, we also didn't have private phones. We had THREE pay phones
in the dorm for ~200 women. And we weren't allowed to receive or make
calls after 11 PM.

There was a soda machine and a cigarette (!) machine in the basement as
well as a laundry room where you could use your own iron. I was
severely chastised when, during semi-annual (unannounced) room
inspection, a popcorn maker was found under my bed. Horrors!

We were shocked when we saw our kids' college rooms with all the
comforts of home. (My son's freshman roommate had an espresso maker!)

People laugh when we say "times have changed," but in many ways, they
sure have.

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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "jmcquown" >
> :
>
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
>>> food-related pictures from magazines.
>>>
>>> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/
>>>
>>> There's a button at the bottom of the page
>>> for advancing to the next page.

>>
>> Well heck, everyone needs a gadget that will cook hot dogs in your
>> car! And what's up with that kelp/seaweed "bread"? Only in
>> California...
>>
>> Jill

>
> Krrrreeeeiissstttt Jill. Don't give 'em any ideas. You'll be seeing
> these lumbering SUVs and mini vans careening all over the road whilst
> mom/dad is carting the children to... well... something. H/She'll be
> yapping on the cell phone, making dinner for the kids (hot dogs)
> while the kids are glued to the DVD player in the rear of the
> vehicle. Of course operating the motor vehicle safely is a very
> minor concern which only takes a very miniscule amount of attention
> away from the more important motoring issues.
>
> Personally I like the all in one kitchen myself. I can't even
> imagine it considering how small it was. OTOH, I suppose if you live
> in a really small, one room efficiency it might be handy. I wonder
> how popular those things were in college dorms.
>
> Michael


Yep, in an efficiency/studio apartment I could see that all in one kitchen
coming in handy. As gloria pointed out, they probably couldn't have such in
thing in the dorms in those days. Might come in handy now, though! Beats
cooking everything in a small microwave and/or on a hotplate.

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"jmcquown" > wrote:
> Yep, in an efficiency/studio apartment I could see that all in one kitchen
> coming in handy. As gloria pointed out, they probably couldn't have such
> in
> thing in the dorms in those days. Might come in handy now, though! Beats
> cooking everything in a small microwave and/or on a hotplate.


I wonder if they ever put them into those motel rooms with kitchenettes? I
never stayed in one back in the days when these things were made. The more
modern kitchenettes I've seen all had full size appliances.

What I find interesting these days is Viking (and I presume others) makes a
small 24 inch range. I guess those are for people remodeling their miniscule
kitchens in older apartment buildings in NYC and elsewhere. I guess people
still want that kind of thing in an upscale apartment, even if it has to be
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> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > Yep, in an efficiency/studio apartment I could see that all in one kitchen
> > coming in handy. As gloria pointed out, they probably couldn't have such
> > in
> > thing in the dorms in those days. Might come in handy now, though! Beats
> > cooking everything in a small microwave and/or on a hotplate.

>
> I wonder if they ever put them into those motel rooms with kitchenettes? I
> never stayed in one back in the days when these things were made. The more
> modern kitchenettes I've seen all had full size appliances.
>



Remember, at the time this item was touted (1952) many working folk
(in cities at least) still lived in rooming houses, they took their
meals communally. This all - in - one unit may have been targeted to
owners of such places as an enticement to potential boarders. Also,
many single folk in cities lived in what were called "apartment
hotels", these were small effeciency apartments with little room for
kitchen space, such small kitchenette - type appliances could have
been relatively easily installed...

My first apt. in Chicago was a small one - bedroom in such a building,
it had a tiny, TINY galley - type kitchen squeezed into a closet -
like space. Such a unit would have been handy in such tight
quarters...

[In '52 the US was also embroiled in the Korean conflict, during that
time production of some "hard goods", e.g. appliances, cars, etc. were
somewhat curtailed. Such a unit may have been a way to get around
certain supply restrictions for steel, mechanical components, etc.
Don't know if this was a factor for this particular unit, but who
knows...]

There are quite a few of these types of apartment buildings still
around, in Chicago many of them date from the 1920's. Now they are
simply billed as "studio apartments"...

Rooming houses as such I've not seen for many, many years (they are
rife of course in illegal immigrant circles, these are normally
illegal "conversions" made so as to sleep many people in shifts), they
were once a staple of urban life. They were not only for poorer
people but also many "respectable" folks such as teachers, nurses,
office workers, and the like lived in rooming houses. To see a c.
1951 depiction of a middle - class rooming house see the movie _The
Day The Earth Stood Still_, some of those characters (Patricia Neal
and her son...Florence Bavier aka "Aunt Bee") live in such such a
place in Washington DC...

Another thing I haven't seen for many years is a "tourist home", this
was a rooming house - type thing for travellers. Back in the pre -
Holiday Inn day motels and motor courts had a sleazy rep, tourist
homes were a bit more respectable...

Life has changed immensely in 60 years, with increased wealth and the
quest for privacy the communal style of living is pretty much a thing
of the past...in any case a tiny all - in - one kitchen would have
been in 1952 a huge step up in independence for many.

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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Rooming houses as such I've not seen for many, many years (they are
> rife of course in illegal immigrant circles, these are normally
> illegal "conversions" made so as to sleep many people in shifts), they
> were once a staple of urban life. They were not only for poorer
> people but also many "respectable" folks such as teachers, nurses,
> office workers, and the like lived in rooming houses. To see a c.
> 1951 depiction of a middle - class rooming house see the movie _The
> Day The Earth Stood Still_, some of those characters (Patricia Neal
> and her son...Florence Bavier aka "Aunt Bee") live in such such a
> place in Washington DC...


I know the movie well! I'm also quite familiar with the concept of rooming
houses. There's yet another variant, the dormitory. And I'm not talking
about at boarding schools or universities.

When I was in college, I took a summer job (1974) in Washington. I stayed
for a while at a dormitory called McLean Gardens, on Wisconsin Avenue a few
blocks above the National Cathedral. The room was a double that I shared
with a coworker. There was a half bath in the room, with a sink and toilet.
But to take a shower, you had to go down the hall to a shared one like in a
college dorm. And of course there was no kitchen in the room. The place was
closed down a year or so after I was there, and the building demolished.
Part of the complex is still there, the part that was apartments. That
portion was converted to condos in the late 1970s.

This complex was built during World War II as housing for the thousands upon
thousands who came to Washington for the war effort. Many were single, and
that's what this dormitory was for. There are several other war housing
complexes in the area that are still around, in addition to what remains of
this one. Two of the others are Fairlington Villages and Park Fairfax just
across the river, and both are now condo conversions.

> Life has changed immensely in 60 years, with increased wealth and the
> quest for privacy the communal style of living is pretty much a thing
> of the past...in any case a tiny all - in - one kitchen would have
> been in 1952 a huge step up in independence for many.


In a way it is very unfortunate that some of this housing has disappeared.
Another type is single room occupancy hotels or SROs, which were longer term
housing than the name implies. There are a considerable number of people who
just don't have the means for even a studio apartment and with the demise of
both SROs and rooming houses, they often end up homeless.

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> "jmcquown" ndividual.net:
>
> > Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> Here's a site which has lots of weird old
> >> food-related pictures from magazines.

>
> >>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/category/kitchen/

>
> >> There's a button at the bottom of the page
> >> for advancing to the next page.

>
> > Well heck, everyone needs a gadget that will cook hot dogs in your
> > car! And what's up with that kelp/seaweed "bread"? Only in
> > California...

>
> > Jill

>
> Krrrreeeeiissstttt Jill. Don't give 'em any ideas. You'll be seeing these
> lumbering SUVs and mini vans careening all over the road whilst mom/dad is
> carting the children to... well... something. H/She'll be yapping on the
> cell phone, making dinner for the kids (hot dogs) while the kids are glued
> to the DVD player in the rear of the vehicle. Of course operating the
> motor vehicle safely is a very minor concern which only takes a very
> miniscule amount of attention away from the more important motoring issues.
>



Here in Chicawgo we are apparently getting city - wide
broadband wi - fi, one of the big concerns is that people
will be using their laptops while they drive...

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On 15 Apr 2007 17:47:14 -0700, "Gregory Morrow"
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>one of the big concerns is that people
>will be using their laptops while they drive...


It will help them pass the time while they slowly crawl up to the toll
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Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "Gregory Morrow" >
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>> Here in Chicawgo we are apparently getting city - wide
>> broadband wi - fi, one of the big concerns is that people
>> will be using their laptops while they drive...
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> You know they will. Incredible isn't it?
>
> Michael
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I just made a trip (convoy style) to Nashville. All our cars had radio
access between them. One guy had his laptop up and running via satellite
and cell phone service and we were able to keep up on local police and
road conditions. He wasn't doing the actual driving though, someone else
was. LOL
It also came in handy when we used it to Google for food stops en route.


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> One guy had his laptop up and running via satellite
> and cell phone service


Which satellite provider is it? Which cell phone works up and down
the E. Coast? I find Verison is fine for urban areas on the W. Coast,
but there is no service when you get into the "real" rural areas of
Oregon along the coast. They have only one provider and it's not
Verison.

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>> One guy had his laptop up and running via satellite
>> and cell phone service

>
> Which satellite provider is it? Which cell phone works up and down
> the E. Coast? I find Verison is fine for urban areas on the W. Coast,
> but there is no service when you get into the "real" rural areas of
> Oregon along the coast. They have only one provider and it's not
> Verison.
>

I don't know the exact server. It was provided by the US gumment
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Goomba38 wrote:

> I just made a trip (convoy style) to Nashville. All our cars had radio
> access between them. One guy had his laptop up and running via satellite
> and cell phone service and we were able to keep up on local police and
> road conditions. He wasn't doing the actual driving though, someone else
> was. LOL
> It also came in handy when we used it to Google for food stops en route.


In a couple weeks Lin and I will be driving together from Oklahoma to our
home in California. For this trip I'll be the navigator, and I intend to
use my GPS-augmented laptop to seek out alternate routes if necessary. If
the system works well, we'll be using a similar process for finding back
roads and trails for outdoor ventures here in northern California. (I've got
the National Geographic topographical maps and trail maps for California
loaded onto my laptop.)

Bob


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> In a couple weeks Lin and I will be driving together from Oklahoma to our
> home in California. For this trip I'll be the navigator, and I intend to
> use my GPS-augmented laptop to seek out alternate routes if necessary.


See you at the North Sydney-Argentia Ferry.

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On 15 Apr 2007 21:58:03 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"
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>Goomba38 wrote:
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>> I just made a trip (convoy style) to Nashville. All our cars had radio
>> access between them. One guy had his laptop up and running via satellite
>> and cell phone service and we were able to keep up on local police and
>> road conditions. He wasn't doing the actual driving though, someone else
>> was. LOL
>> It also came in handy when we used it to Google for food stops en route.

>
>In a couple weeks Lin and I will be driving together from Oklahoma to our
>home in California. For this trip I'll be the navigator, and I intend to
>use my GPS-augmented laptop to seek out alternate routes if necessary. If
>the system works well, we'll be using a similar process for finding back
>roads and trails for outdoor ventures here in northern California. (I've got
>the National Geographic topographical maps and trail maps for California
>loaded onto my laptop.)


And you will, of course, take copious and colorful notes for all of
your pals back here in NorCal, yes? :-)))))

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:34:04 GMT, Steve Wertz
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>On 15 Apr 2007 21:58:03 -0500, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>> In a couple weeks Lin and I will be driving together from Oklahoma to our
>> home in California. For this trip I'll be the navigator, and I intend to
>> use my GPS-augmented laptop to seek out alternate routes if necessary. If
>> the system works well, we'll be using a similar process for finding back
>> roads and trails for outdoor ventures here in northern California.

>
>Wasn't that Microsoft exec using a GPS when he got lost?
>

Microsoft? He was an editor for CNet.

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