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I love big slices of rare beef... beef that's carved similar to a
standing rib roast with a bright pink center, but with a more intense beef flavor - and - a cut that's not gonna empty my wallet. So I finally asked the butcher for a top sirloin steak at 3 inches thick... One thing to mention is that at 3 inches thick this suckers huge, about 12 inches long end to end so it looks more like a roast than a steak. I seasoned both sides with a heavy dose of course salt about 3 hours before cooking which I've found REALLY helps to season beef, I'm guessing it's a dry brine. (doing so lets the whole slice tastes seasoned rather than just the crust) I let the steak come to room temperature and cranked up the cast iron pan until smoking. I patted the steak dry with paper towels then added a little peanut oil to the pan and dropped in the steak (roast) and seared the first side for 4 minutes. I flipped the steak and immediately added a heavy dose of fresh cracked pepper to the seared top and popped the pan in the oven for about 6 minutes at 400 degrees. I pulled the steak out and moved it to a resting rack for a good 10 minutes. At 3 inches thick when I carved it, the slices looked more like prime rib with a bright pink center but tasted much more "beefier". I paired it with some sliced beets and water cress and a tall glass of red wine. Dinner for two with at least 16 ounces left over for steak sammiches tonight.... all for $15. At the current price for Top Sirloin, that is in fact the perfect steak.... ~john |
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levelwave said...
> I love big slices of rare beef... > At the current price for Top Sirloin, that is in fact the > perfect steak.... > > ~john You forgot the obligatory "imho." Price being no object, chateaubriand is the most perfect steak on the cow, imho. Andy |
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On Mar 5, 12:56 pm, Andy <q> wrote:
> Price being no object, chateaubriand is the most perfect steak on the cow, > imho. > > Andy >From wikipedia "At the time of the Vicomte the steak [chateaubriand ] was cut from the more flavorful, but less tender sirloin" Flavor trumps tenderness... IMO ~john |
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levelwave said...
> On Mar 5, 12:56 pm, Andy <q> wrote: > >> Price being no object, chateaubriand is the most perfect steak on the cow, >> imho. >> >> Andy > > >>From wikipedia > > "At the time of the Vicomte the steak [chateaubriand ] was cut from > the more flavorful, but less tender sirloin" > > Flavor trumps tenderness... IMO > > ~john That's what you get for trusting wikipedia!!! It's the end of the filet mignon. Andy |
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On Mar 5, 1:38 pm, Andy <q> wrote:
> That's what you get for trusting wikipedia!!! > > It's the end of the filet mignon. > > Andy Chteaubriand [sha-toh-bree-AHN] Contrary to popular belief, Chteaubriand is actually a recipe, not a cut of beef. This method of preparation is said to be named for the 19th-century French statesman and author, François Chteaubriand. It's a succulent, thick cut of beef (usually taken from the center of the tenderloin) that's large enough for two people. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. |
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levelwave said...
> On Mar 5, 1:38 pm, Andy <q> wrote: > >> That's what you get for trusting wikipedia!!! >> >> It's the end of the filet mignon. >> >> Andy > > > Chteaubriand > [sha-toh-bree-AHN] > Contrary to popular belief, Chteaubriand is actually a recipe, not a > cut of beef. This method of preparation is said to be named for the > 19th-century French statesman and author, François Chteaubriand. It's > a succulent, thick cut of beef (usually taken from the center of the > tenderloin) that's large enough for two people. > > © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD > LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. Fine, just wrong again, Sharon. Andy |
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"levelwave" wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > > That's what you get for trusting wikipedia!!! > > > It's the end of the filet mignon. > > Chteaubriand > [sha-toh-bree-AHN] > Contrary to popular belief, Chteaubriand is actually a recipe, not a > cut of beef. This method of preparation is said to be named for the > 19th-century French statesman and author, François Chteaubriand. It's > a succulent, thick cut of beef (usually taken from the center of the > tenderloin) that's large enough for two people. > > © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD > LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. It's actually both, a recipe and a cut... the same source argues with itself: short loin Of the major wholesale cuts of beef, this is the most tender. It lies in the middle of the back between the sirloin and the rib, and the muscles in this section do little that could toughen them. The two main muscles in the short loin are the tenderloin and the top loin. The elongated tenderloin muscle (when separated from the bone and the rest of the short loin) can be sold as tenderloin roasts (often labeled CHATEAUBRIANDS), or cut into TOURNEDOS; or FILET MIGNON steaks. The top loin muscle with the bone attached is called a CLUB STEAK. When removed from the bone, the same muscle is marketed as New York (or Kansas City ) STRIP STEAK; or DELMONICO STEAK. When the bone is left in and portions of both the tenderloin and top loin muscles are included, the short loin is the source of PORTERHOUSE STEAKS and T- BONE STEAKS. � Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. The best of the tender steaks is the Porterhouse. The most flavorful steak is a chuck steak. Sheldon |
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Andy wrote:
> levelwave said... > >> I love big slices of rare beef... > >> At the current price for Top Sirloin, that is in fact the >> perfect steak.... >> >> ~john > > > You forgot the obligatory "imho." > > Price being no object, chateaubriand is the most perfect steak on the > cow, imho. I'm iffy about considering the chateubriand an actual cut of meat, rather than a *recipe* for cooking a specific cut of meat (tenderloin). -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Mar 5, 11:29 am, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > levelwave said... > > >> I love big slices of rare beef... > > >> At the current price for Top Sirloin, that is in fact the > >> perfect steak.... > > >> ~john > > > You forgot the obligatory "imho." > > > Price being no object, chateaubriand is the most perfect steak on the > > cow, imho. > > I'm iffy about considering the chateubriand an actual cut of meat, rather > than a *recipe* for cooking a specific cut of meat (tenderloin). > > -- > Davewww.davebbq.com That's what I thought, too- it's a recipe, not a cut. Isn't Bernaise sauce part of it? |
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On 5 Mar 2007 11:53:19 -0800, "merryb" > wrote:
>On Mar 5, 11:29 am, "Dave Bugg" > wrote: >> I'm iffy about considering the chateubriand an actual cut of meat, rather >> than a *recipe* for cooking a specific cut of meat (tenderloin). >> >> -- >> Davewww.davebbq.com > >That's what I thought, too- it's a recipe, not a cut. Isn't Bernaise >sauce part of it? > Bearnaise sauce can be a part of anything, as far as I am concerned...LOL. Christine |
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Christine Dabney wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2007 11:53:19 -0800, "merryb" > wrote: > >> On Mar 5, 11:29 am, "Dave Bugg" > wrote: > >>> I'm iffy about considering the chateubriand an actual cut of meat, >>> rather than a *recipe* for cooking a specific cut of meat >>> (tenderloin). >>> >>> -- >>> Davewww.davebbq.com >> >> That's what I thought, too- it's a recipe, not a cut. Isn't Bernaise >> sauce part of it? >> > > Bearnaise sauce can be a part of anything, as far as I am > concerned...LOL. ROTFLOL!!!!!!!! -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Mar 6, 9:12 pm, Steve Wertz > wrote:
> How much was it per lb? Top sirloin is $4/lb here. That would > mean you ate about 3lbs of it last night. > > -sw Not sure... but damn, it was good. I wasn't the only one eating it the first night. ~john |
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