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hob wrote:

>> Perhaps I am old fashioned or maybe some (seems like most) people were
>> not raised with manners. My parents raised me to never ask what's
>> being offered. Just feel good that you were liked enough to be
>> invited.
>
> They were raised to bring a gift to dinner - wine, usually - that is why
> they ask.

Well.. that topic has its own etiquette rules too. Unless previously
asked to bring the wine for that meal, a hostess gift of wine is not to
be assumed to be enjoyed that night. The hostess has probably already
selected and organized the wine to compliment her meal. She can thank
the bearer nicely and put it aside for later enjoyment.
It is considered rude of guests to presume their wine has to be served.

Now granted, things have become VERY casual, and some folks never were
raised having experienced dinner parties and social training. I have
read that large corporations are having to send their young employees to
etiquette schools just to teach them how to dine in public and not
embarrass the company they represent.

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The Ranger wrote:
> I now know of several vine-based berries (lingonberries,
> blackberries, boysenberries, raspberries, and much to my everlasting
> annoyance, strawberries) that I cannot enjoy without turning into
> one... Luckily, grapes are not on that growing list but I have been
> warned it might just be a matter of time.
>
> The Ranger
>
>

OUCH! You have my sympathy.

The only thing that does it to me is kiwifruit which I love, but have
managed to omit from my diet without major trauma.

gloria p

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Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> C'monna my house, Lia. There could be some jam (GOOD - nay, EXCELLENT -
> jam in it for you.


My housekeeping habits aren't necessarily clean (nothing to call the
department of health about but nothing sparkling either), but I adore
organizing. I love putting books on shelves. I alphabetize my spices.
A good afternoon is one spent going through a closet, hanging up
dresses with dresses, belts with belts and blouses with blouses. I
don't keep things organized, and I don't freak when someone puts
something away in the "wrong" place. I just wait a few months, then
enjoy the process all over again.


When I moved to this town several years ago, I joined a quilt guild and
offered to organize members' fabric stashes with them. A few people got
interested at first, then hemmed and hawed when I made it clear that I
wasn't coming over to do their laundry or housework. They'd have to
clear the time, not answer the phone, make sure the kids weren't
interrupting, and stay with me while we went through a disorganized mess
of sewing supplies and turned the space into one that was fit for making
quilts in. That's filing patterns, giving away stuff that the person
will never use, putting away fabric according to color, size of scrap,
material content, getting all the beads and buttons in one place,
getting all the thread spools in one place, etc. Also, asking the hard
questions about whether a particular project is worth finishing and
letting go of it if it isn't.


One guild member took me up on my offer. I wasn't sure how it would go,
but I went over there, and we got down to work. We cleared away boxes
full of old stuff. I gave her the kick she needed to put things in
envelopes that she'd been meaning to mail forever, to put things in
boxes that would be appreciated by the senior center, to get rid of old
projects that were bogging her down, and to throw away, throw away,
throw away. Mostly we folded fabric and put it neatly in her stash.
And we're now great friends. My true talent in life is organizing.


If that's what you have in mind, I would love to trade that for some jam.


--Lia

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Puester wrote:

> The only thing that does it to me is kiwifruit which I love, but have
> managed to omit from my diet without major trauma.
>
> gloria p

I just want to say to be careful- people with allergies to kiwi are
sometimes more prone to latex allergies. If you get irritated around
your mouth when the dentist uses a mouth dam during work, you could be
experiencing initial problems.

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"Lighten up and don't be such a control freak. Men gather around the grill
like women gather in the kitchen."

It's my damned grill, my artistic expression and an extension of my
cosmic/comic being.
Don't touch my damned grill unless I specifically ask you to open the lid.
If I want to smoke whole chickens and add a BBQ sauce to the exterior during
the last 1/2 hour of cooking that's fine, just don't slather your personal
preferences upon my grill.
Invite me over to your house, I promise to tell you what I think, if asked,
while refraining to touch anything.
Take 1/2 cup vinegar, 1/2 cup brown sugar and various spices then burn in
the bottom of your favorite non stick pan and eat all you want.
Tastes like candy, not!
The bottom line is even if a mans grill is only a hibachi, it's bigger than
a castle in his mind.
Used to be a mans home was his castle, that was before modern banking and
nobody who's anybody really owns anything. What the hell are those bankers
going to do with a used grill. It's yours now come hell or high water and
the only thing you'll ever truly own. You can buy it back at a foreclosure
auction, where they take your lifes work and sell it to two hundred and
eighty million people who never gave a shit about you anyway, for a couple
of dollars if need be.

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Julia Altshuler wrote:
My true talent in life is organizing.
>

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! A woman after my own OCD heart :)
I am the person people ask to set up their kitchens and organize their
life when they are missing that "OCD" gene, lol.
My house is very clean, but I have help. I'm lucky.

Goomba..making brownies today for the tree surgeons out felling a couple
of trees to make room for the hot tub deck. I'm sorry Barb, they're box
brownies as I'm working on short notice. I did make 'em "boy brownies"
though.

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:33:11 -0600, VegA > wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:49:15 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:35:05 -0600, VegA > wrote:
>>
>>>>I notice that he's too shy to post his pic on the RFC website.
>>>>How ironic :-)
>>>>
>>>>-sw
>>>
>>>I have seen too many people posting here long enought to know that
>>>someone would figure it out.
>>>
>>>Mind you, I never set out to "expose anyone". We all have our own
>>>"kinks".
>>
>>BULLSHIT! You're a bleeping liar.
>
>Who? Me?

You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
thread.

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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:28:55 -0600, VegA wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:24:14 -0500, Goomba38 >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I actually know someone who refuses to eat meat cooked on a gas grill
> >>instead of charcoal. I'm gobsmacked by that level of pickiness.
> >
> > The briquetts are just as bad. I'm ok with gas, perfer natural lump.
>
> Briquettes are the worst type of fuel you can use, healthwise (and
> taste-wise). A well-seasoned gas grill is OK for grilling, but I
> prefer lump or cured/aged wood.
>
> -sw

Ditto.
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Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> Briquettes are the worst type of fuel you can use, healthwise (and
> taste-wise). A well-seasoned gas grill is OK for grilling, but I
> prefer lump or cured/aged wood.

A friend of mine is a real stickler about charcoal grilling and
he swears by briquettes. He lights them with an electric starter
or with one of those old stove pipe starters with paper. He gives
them lots of time to burn off the added fuels. When he finished
cooking he puts leftover briquettes in an old paint can where
they embers die, and then the next time he is cooking and the
briquettes start running low he recycles the stuff in the can,
from which the chemicals have already been burned out. That way,
he does not have to use fresh briquettes.

This guy is a very finicky about the way he cooks. His style is
the antithesis of mine. I used to shake my head in frustration
about him being so rigid in his technique. Roasts on a spit had
to be speared just so, had to rotate a particular direction,
recipes have to be adhered to exactly as written. I have to
admit that everything he has ever cooked on that grill has been
outstanding. Prime rib roasts, legs of lamb, dry rubbed pork
loins..... fantastic.

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hob wrote:
>
> They were raised to bring a gift to dinner - wine, usually - that is why
> they ask.

I mentioned a friend who asks because he likes to bring the
perfect wine to pair with the meal. Wine brought by guests not
generally expected to be served at that particular meal. It is a
gift for the host and hostess, not a BYOB, unless you have
offered to bring the wine for the meal.

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"You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
thread."

Bullshit, follow it back and you'll find I started this particular portion
of this particular thread on grilling etiquette.
If you haven't been following it, it's changed subject line several times.
I was ****ing and moaning about people I had invited over without strapping
on my six shooter and showing them my quick draw skills first!
I used to allow people to walk all over me, now I tend to go for the jugluar
vein and ask question or ignore you while your bleeding out.
WTFIT, a power struggle over BBQ.

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Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I mentioned a friend who asks because he likes to bring the
> perfect wine to pair with the meal. Wine brought by guests not
> generally expected to be served at that particular meal. It is a
> gift for the host and hostess, not a BYOB, unless you have
> offered to bring the wine for the meal.

That reminds me of the story of the door mat that says:

"We only drink the finest wines. Did you bring any?"

;-)
gloria p

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:29:59 GMT, "Muddle"
> wrote:

>"You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
>thread."
>
>Bullshit, follow it back and you'll find I started this particular portion
>of this particular thread on grilling etiquette.
>If you haven't been following it, it's changed subject line several times.
>I was ****ing and moaning about people I had invited over without strapping
>on my six shooter and showing them my quick draw skills first!
>I used to allow people to walk all over me, now I tend to go for the jugluar
>vein and ask question or ignore you while your bleeding out.
>WTFIT, a power struggle over BBQ.

Did you read what I was responding to? I was talking to the original
poster, regarding "outing" a nudist.

I'd love to come over to your place for barbecue. :)

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Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "The Ranger"
> wrote:
>
> > three days. I now know of several vine-based berries
> > (lingonberries, blackberries, boysenberries, raspberries,
> > and much to my everlasting annoyance, strawberries)
> > that I cannot enjoy without turning into one...
> >
> Oh, Sweetie!!! I'll light a candle for you.

I ain't dead yet! There are Quality of Life issues I'm still working
on and believe the American Pharmcuetical Base will come forward
with a test drug that puts a damper on hair loss and hives
simultaneously.

The Ranger

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Puester > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:
> > I now know of several vine-based berries (lingonberries,
> > blackberries, boysenberries, raspberries, and much to my
> > everlasting annoyance, strawberries) that I cannot enjoy
> > without turning into one... Luckily, grapes are not on that
> > growing list but I have been warned it might just be a
> > matter of time.
> >
> OUCH! You have my sympathy.
>
> The only thing that does it to me is kiwifruit which I love,
> but have managed to omit from my diet without major trauma.

Man! I haven't had kiwi but I'll bet they're on that list, too...
<sigh> Sucks to be me.

The Ranger

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WOW!.....thats my kind of cook.
Keep it up Vega....

Charles(chef of lower michigan)

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Michel Boucher wrote:
>> do NOT IMPOSE on your host by asking what is being served and then
>> setting conditions. I know that isn't always why ALL people ask that
>> question. But more often than not...I think it is.

My girlfriend had (past tense) who was extremely picky and controlling
when he visited. He pushed the boundary between guest and host little
by little every time he come over. It started by him being vegetarian,
which is fine. But then he started keep an eye on everything in the
kitchen and our hands, and deciding what and how to cook it, and how to
season it and when to make it and when to make tea, etc. All the pots
and pans had to be cleaned an extra time before cooking for him. All
foods and our hands had to be cleansed from negative energy...

> Well, there would be religious dietary restrictions, for example pork
> for muslims and jews.

I know fellow phd student, who is a muslim (his father is an Imam), and
he eats whatever we serve. pork, wine, etc. He even joined us for
christmas. Of course, he is a critical thinker and thus has free will.


> Also, I personally cannot digest onion or peanut
> butter or red meat, so if invited I mention that restriction. If they
> insist, then I will have to pass on the food.

Allergies is a totally different matter.

Sometimes people seem to be picky just for the sake of it to be
interesting.


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In article >,
"The Ranger" > wrote:

> Man! I haven't had kiwi but I'll bet they're on that list, too...
> <sigh> Sucks to be me.
>
> The Ranger

At last!! He admits it!! "-)
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>You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
>thread.

If that was my intention I wouldn't have typed all the other stuff. In
addition, I would have told everyone who he was and how to verify it.

Im a nudist.

I do not post pictures of myself.

He is posting pictures no nudist would claim were "nudist" pics.

I was Talking about the cross section of the people here.

BTW, what the hell is your problem anyway?

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Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message
...
> In article >, The Ranger
> wrote:
>
> > Man! I haven't had kiwi but I'll bet they're on that list,
too...
> > <sigh> Sucks to be me.
> >
> At last!! He admits it!! "-)
>
Where ya been?! I've admitted it for years! (As far back as the
Summer of Eighty-Six.) ;)

ObAllergylist: Add shrimp to the can't-have list. I might as well
invest in Pfizer with the amount of Benadryl I'm keeping at Castle
Ranger.

The Ranger

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In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:
> Has nothing to do with not being "light". It's having good manners as
> a guest. In some circles it's acceptable to fart and belch at the
> dinner table, as well. That doesn't mean that doing so is accepted in
> society.
>
> -L.

Define society.
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In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> That doesn't mean that doing so is accepted in
> > society.
> >
> > -L.
>
> Define society.
> --
> -Barb,

<lol>

So many facets......
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:03:17 -0600, VegA > wrote:

>>You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
>>thread.
>
>If that was my intention I wouldn't have typed all the other stuff. In
>addition, I would have told everyone who he was and how to verify it.

"All the other stuff" was just smoke and mirrors, designed to draw
people's attention away from the true purpose of your post. Then you
tossed this guy in so that it would look like almost an afterthought.

>I'm a nudist.

YAY! The few people who have told me they're nudists are great folks.

>I do not post pictures of myself.

Your perogative. I'd never post pictures of myself, either.

>He is posting pictures no nudist would claim were "nudist" pics.

This is what your issue really is. He's crossed your line between
good taste and bad taste, and you don't like it. You dropped enough
tidbits of information that a motivated person would be able to
discover the <gasp!> awful truth about one of their friends. You
wanted others to feel as badly about this man as you do. I understand
your feelings (I sure as hell don't want to see his pictures), but
what someone does in another newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do
with rec.food.cooking, and doesn't belong here.

>I was Talking about the cross section of the people here.

Then talk about the people *here,* and what they say and do *here."
There's so much written here that it's ludicrous to go elsewhere for
drama.

You're vindictive. Vindictive and petty. And sneaky. But you're a
lousy sneak.

What's my problem? People like you.

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 07:37:16 -0600, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:03:17 -0600, VegA > wrote:
>
>>>You and I both know that it was your entire purpose in starting this
>>>thread.
>>
>>If that was my intention I wouldn't have typed all the other stuff. In
>>addition, I would have told everyone who he was and how to verify it.
>
>"All the other stuff" was just smoke and mirrors, designed to draw
>people's attention away from the true purpose of your post. Then you
>tossed this guy in so that it would look like almost an afterthought.
>
>>I'm a nudist.
>
>YAY! The few people who have told me they're nudists are great folks.
>
>>I do not post pictures of myself.
>
>Your perogative. I'd never post pictures of myself, either.
>
>>He is posting pictures no nudist would claim were "nudist" pics.
>
>This is what your issue really is. He's crossed your line between
>good taste and bad taste, and you don't like it. You dropped enough
>tidbits of information that a motivated person would be able to
>discover the <gasp!> awful truth about one of their friends. You
>wanted others to feel as badly about this man as you do. I understand
>your feelings (I sure as hell don't want to see his pictures), but
>what someone does in another newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do
>with rec.food.cooking, and doesn't belong here.
>
>>I was Talking about the cross section of the people here.
>
>Then talk about the people *here,* and what they say and do *here."
>There's so much written here that it's ludicrous to go elsewhere for
>drama.
>
>You're vindictive. Vindictive and petty. And sneaky. But you're a
>lousy sneak.
>
>What's my problem? People like you.

Got any nakid pics?

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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:03:17 -0600, VegA > wrote:
>
>
>> I'm a nudist.
>
> YAY! The few people who have told me they're nudists are great folks.
>

You haven't met my husband's uncle, Dams. He's quite the oddball nudist.
He's the only person I know who stores pictures of LAWNMOWERS on his
computer, scrolls through them regularly and declares each one "dead sexy".
Um, yeah.

I also found it difficult to talk to him while he was sitting naked in my
living room. <shudder>

kili
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"Steve Wertz" > wrote

> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:47:37 GMT, kilikini wrote:
>
>> I also found it difficult to talk to him while he was sitting naked in my
>> living room. <shudder>
>
> Now *that's* rude.

(laugh) I'm suddenly reminded of that nude restaurant ... takes
away my appetite thinking of all those naked stranger's butts sitting
on the furniture. Towel or no.

nancy

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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:47:37 GMT, kilikini wrote:
>
>> I also found it difficult to talk to him while he was sitting naked
>> in my living room. <shudder>
>
> Now *that's* rude.
>
> -sw

I didn't look, I swear, but dang, to just strip in the middle of my living
room and sit in my chair! UGH.

kili
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Nancy Young wrote:
> "Steve Wertz" > wrote
>
>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:47:37 GMT, kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> I also found it difficult to talk to him while he was sitting naked
>>> in my living room. <shudder>
>>
>> Now *that's* rude.
>
> (laugh) I'm suddenly reminded of that nude restaurant ... takes
> away my appetite thinking of all those naked stranger's butts sitting
> on the furniture. Towel or no.
>
> nancy

Exactly!

kili
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:09:59 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
> wrote:

>VegA > :
>
>
>> I will not smoke in your house enless you let me know that is is OK. I
>> live just outside of Chicago. If you ask me over for a dinner party in
>> Jan. and it is -60 outside I will not smoke outside, and no, I can not
>> just "not smoke" for the next 4 hours. I have an addiction that is
>> legal in all states. If you can't provide indoor shelter for me while
>> I get my "fix", I will gracefully decline your invitation. No hard
>> feelings.
>
>Whatever do you do on a long airline flight? IMO a friend's invitation
>would far surpass my desire for a cigarette.
>
Good point! That person probably drives everywhere flicking cigarette
butts out the window (what's that all about? marking territory?).
Isn't it interesting how so many cigarette smokers are still stuck in
the past thinking the world is their ashtray?

In any case, I wouldn't accept an invitation from a known smoker and
expect them NOT to smoke in their own home, so I'd expect a smoker to
give me the same consideration when they come to my place.

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:47:37 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:03:17 -0600, VegA > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a nudist.
>>
>> YAY! The few people who have told me they're nudists are great folks.
>
>You haven't met my husband's uncle, Dams. He's quite the oddball nudist.
>He's the only person I know who stores pictures of LAWNMOWERS on his
>computer, scrolls through them regularly and declares each one "dead sexy".
>Um, yeah.

This guy sounds like he has some problems.

>I also found it difficult to talk to him while he was sitting naked in my
>living room. <shudder>

Quick tip: You have the right to set a dress code in your own home.

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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
<snip>

>
> This is what your issue really is. He's crossed your line between
> good taste and bad taste, and you don't like it. You dropped enough
> tidbits of information that a motivated person would be able to
> discover the <gasp!> awful truth about one of their friends. You
> wanted others to feel as badly about this man as you do. I understand
> your feelings (I sure as hell don't want to see his pictures), but
> what someone does in another newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do
> with rec.food.cooking, and doesn't belong here.

Do you really think anyone here cares if someone posts nekkid pics on
Usenet? If they do, they don't have a life, LOL...

-L.

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On 18 Nov 2006 14:44:42 -0800, "-L." > wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
><snip>
>
>> This is what your issue really is. He's crossed your line between
>> good taste and bad taste, and you don't like it. You dropped enough
>> tidbits of information that a motivated person would be able to
>> discover the <gasp!> awful truth about one of their friends. You
>> wanted others to feel as badly about this man as you do. I understand
>> your feelings (I sure as hell don't want to see his pictures), but
>> what someone does in another newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do
>> with rec.food.cooking, and doesn't belong here.
>
>Do you really think anyone here cares if someone posts nekkid pics on
>Usenet? If they do, they don't have a life, LOL...

I don't think very many people care, but some do, if the mail in my
inbox is any indication (I don't know who it is, guys!).

This jerk's (ObFood) sole purpose in starting this thread was to try
to create disharmony for this RFCer with his online friends. He'd
posted here exactly once prior to that.

If someone wants to bare it all online, big bleeping deal. This whole
thing just smacks of some kind of sick vengeance, and I'm gonna call
VegA on it. In fact, I believe I already did. <G>

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In article >, sf says...
> In any case, I wouldn't accept an invitation from a known smoker and
> expect them NOT to smoke in their own home, so I'd expect a smoker to
> give me the same consideration when they come to my place.
>
>

But the two situations are not equivalent. A smoker certainly has the
"right" to smoke in his own home (whatever that means). Even so, I would
expect any decent human being to refrain from exposing me and others to
foul-smelling health-damaging smoke wherever we are.

I sympathize with smokers - it is a nasty addiction that is hard to
break (I know from experience - I quit, after many failed tries, over 30
years ago). That sympathy does not translate into accepting their
behavior.


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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:07:02 GMT, Peter A >
wrote:

>I sympathize with smokers - it is a nasty addiction that is hard to
>break (I know from experience - I quit, after many failed tries, over 30
>years ago). That sympathy does not translate into accepting their
>behavior.


Accepting their behavior in your home... no. Accepting an invitation
from them and then expecting them not to smoke in their own home?
Unreasonable.

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In article >, sf says...

> Accepting their behavior in your home... no. Accepting an invitation
> from them and then expecting them not to smoke in their own home?
> Unreasonable.
>

Do you really think that expecting a drug addict to spare you inhaling
noxious, poisonous fumes so that he can get a fix is "unreasonable?"

Certain behaviors are simply unacceptable for both moral reasons and for
"manners." That a person is in their own home does not change this fact.
If someone likes to run around naked and shit on the coffee table, do
the guests have to put up with it?

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:16:42 GMT, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, sf says...
>
>> Accepting their behavior in your home... no. Accepting an invitation
>> from them and then expecting them not to smoke in their own home?
>> Unreasonable.
>>
>
>Do you really think that expecting a drug addict to spare you inhaling
>noxious, poisonous fumes so that he can get a fix is "unreasonable?"
>
You're a bit of a control freak, aren't you?

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Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen > scripsit
in :

>> Well, there would be religious dietary restrictions, for example
>> pork for muslims and jews.
>
> I know fellow phd student, who is a muslim (his father is an
> Imam), and he eats whatever we serve. pork, wine, etc. He even
> joined us for christmas. Of course, he is a critical thinker and
> thus has free will.

Bully for him. Not everyone in Islam or Judaism would find that
enlightened.

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In article >, sf says...
> You're a bit of a control freak, aren't you?
>
>
>

No, duh! If you cannot come up with a semi-intelligent response, then
don't respond.

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:04:50 GMT, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, sf says...
>> You're a bit of a control freak, aren't you?
>>
>>
>>
>
>No, duh! If you cannot come up with a semi-intelligent response, then
>don't respond.

The preceding message was brought to you by the guy who thinks a guest
ordering a smoker not to smoke in his/her own home is acceptable
guestlike behavior.



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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:31:19 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>You could always turn down the A/C to 55. Cold air embarrasses
>penises.


Ohhh, I like that!

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