Oh pshaw, on Mon 13 Nov 2006 11:36:10a, Terry meant to say...

> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>
>

Yes, it would be very bad. Don't do it.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
wash and take it out before the dry cycle?

I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.

"Terry" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>

Assuming the thing is seasoned (coated with a layer of oil), you will ruin
the seasoning by putting it in the dishwasher.

Terry wrote:
>
> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.

If you mean "cast iron" skillet, then no, it's not a good idea to wash
it in the dishwasher, no matter no how. It's recommended to never use
soap with cast iron, but that's not a steadfast rule (IMO). And, I
would think that any dishwasher detergent would be especially bad for
the cast iron (?) and would ruin any accumulated seasoning (?).

I quickly clean my 8" cast iron skillet by heating to very hot until it
practically smokes, then put it under running hot water and quickly
scrub it with a wire brush (YMWV* with this method & WARNING - beware of
steam). Simple and fast as that - a whole lot quicker than waiting for
a dishwasher cycle.

Sky

*YMWV = "your milage _will_ vary"

Terry wrote:
> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>

The drying cycle won't hurt anything. The wash cycle would be bad for
it -- unless you run it without any detergent.


Bob

In article 9>, Wayne
Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> says...
> > Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> > wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
> >
> > I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
> >
> >
>
> Yes, it would be very bad. Don't do it.
>
>

Wayne is 100% correct. The high heat and powerful detergent in a
dishwasher will remove the seasoning. By the way, you also should not
put aluminum items in the DW.


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Terry wrote:
> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.

Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.

Jill

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:10:39 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Terry wrote:
>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>
>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>
>Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
>going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
>cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>
>Jill

Although I'd never put my cast in the dishwasher, water isn't the
problem. Dishwasher detergent is stronger than dish soap and will
strip the seasoning.

For the OP, I've attached a post I made just 10 days ago. Also a
google search comes up with these links on the first page. (out of
over 2 million hits) Some are more drastic than others:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to...ving-ware2.htm

http://www.wag-society.org/cleaning.php

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/castiron

http://huntsville.about.com/od/food/...ancastiron.htm


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:19:48 GMT, Dawn >
wrote:

>I wash mine with soap from time to time, depending on what was cooked in
>it, and have never had a problem. What you don't want to do is SOAK a
>cast iron pan. Hot water, a little soap, a scrubbie, rinse it good and
>put it someplace to dry like in the oven. Repeated use will maintain the
> 'seasoning', and I cook bacon every weekend.

I'm one who admits to using soap from time to time also. I have
never had a problem with rust or sticking. Experience, common sense
and proper seasoning all come into play. If I burn something and I
need to use soap I always re season it. When I have to do that I
usually grab up a bunch of them and just do as many will fit in the
oven. I have 4 generations (including me) of cast iron pans. I'm not
sure of the count but I'm up to about 40 pieces. No rust and they all
work just fine even with an occasional bath. The Lodge pans suck. A
food rep gave me two 12 inch skillets about a year ago and the only
reason I kept them is they have the assist handle and I don't have any
other like them. Someone mentioned here recently that polishing with
emery cloth can make them smooth and I plan on trying that method on
one of them to see how it works.

The bacon seasoning is great. Browning ground beef or sausage does
the trick too.

>The other thing you don't want to do is cook tomato sauce in it. That
>will strip your seasoning, too.

I've done that in the cast dutch oven, but it needs to be seasoned
afterwards. Sometimes you gotta break the rules when cooking over a
campfire. LOL

Lou

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Terry wrote:
>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>
>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>
> Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
> going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
> cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>
> Jill
>
>

I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread will
contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:44:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> Terry wrote:
>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>
>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>
>> Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
>> going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
>> cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
>I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread will
>contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?
>

LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:44:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> Terry wrote:
>>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>>
>>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>>
>>> Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
>>> going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
>>> cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread
>>will
>>contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?
>>
>
> LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
>
> Lou

The only correct one is "just don't - it's a lousy idea". But, it's almost
6:00 PM, and the orderlies should be letting Sheldon out of his cell soon.
Let's see what he has to say.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:53:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:44:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Terry wrote:
>>>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if you're
>>>> going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
>>>> cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread
>>>will
>>>contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?
>>>
>>
>> LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
>>
>> Lou
>
>The only correct one is "just don't - it's a lousy idea".

That's true. But some people like to know "why", and hear examples
and experiences. If I posted a query questioning if making angel food
cake was better made in a greasy plastic bowl or a clean copper bowl
I'd like something other than "copper" as the response. I'm not a
great cook but when someone asks a question that I know something
about I try to help. I don't start my posts out like Jill saying
"I've never done it" lol

>But, it's almost 6:00 PM, and the orderlies should be letting Sheldon out of his cell soon.

Time for his walk? I didn't know kennels had orderlies. Hopefully
they've got bags to clean up after him.

>Let's see what he has to say.

Who cares.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:53:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:44:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Terry wrote:
>>>>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>>>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely do *not* put cast iron in the dishwasher, although if
>>>>> you're
>>>>> going to do it the "dry" cycle would certainly be better than the wash
>>>>> cycle! Water will ruin whatever seasoning you've managed to create.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread
>>>>will
>>>>contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>The only correct one is "just don't - it's a lousy idea".
>
> That's true. But some people like to know "why", and hear examples
> and experiences. If I posted a query questioning if making angel food
> cake was better made in a greasy plastic bowl or a clean copper bowl
> I'd like something other than "copper" as the response. I'm not a
> great cook but when someone asks a question that I know something
> about I try to help. I don't start my posts out like Jill saying
> "I've never done it" lol

This is one of my faults: When I'm cooking furiously, and someone is
helping, I don't explain. When they ask "Why that pan?", I say "I'll tell
you some other time. Just use that pan".



>>But, it's almost 6:00 PM, and the orderlies should be letting Sheldon out
>>of his cell soon.
>
> Time for his walk? I didn't know kennels had orderlies. Hopefully
> they've got bags to clean up after him.
>
>>Let's see what he has to say.
>
> Who cares.
>
> Lou

I don't care, but it could affect how many squares are sold for the pool.

In article >,
says...
> >I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread will
> >contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?
> >
>
> LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
>
> Lou
>
>

Including yours?

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

In article . com>,
"Terry" > wrote:

> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>
> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.

Don't put it in the dishwasher - you'll destroy the seasoning you work
so diligently to attain. I have two cast iron pieces and I clean them
by scraping any stuck bits with a metal spatula, then scouring with salt
and a paper towel. Works great. Easiest when they're still warm to the
touch.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
"Maligning an individual says more about you than the one you malign."
http://web.mac.com/barbschaller; blahblahblog Barcelona on Foot
http://jamlady.eboard.com

On Nov 13, 5:49 pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> >I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread will
> >contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?LOL.. I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
>
> Lou- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Cast Iron is clearly the food item with the most mythology on the net.
I wonder what the most mythology, total, is? Vaccinations, probably.

As far as I'm concerned, "Seasoning" is black crud. The black crud
that won't come off pots and pans. To understand the care of
seasoning, apply hard-won knowledge of black crud.

Greg Zywicki

In article om>,
says...
> As far as I'm concerned, "Seasoning" is black crud. The black crud
> that won't come off pots and pans. To understand the care of
> seasoning, apply hard-won knowledge of black crud.
>
>

Seasoning on cast iron is not black crud. Well, maybe it is on your pans
but not anyone else's! It's a result of polymerization of the oils under
heat, causing the molecules to link together and to the iron.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

"Zywicki" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Nov 13, 5:49 pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> >
> > >I'm starting a pool - I'm taking bets on how many messages this thread
will
> > >contain before it's over. It's a dollar a square. You want in?LOL..
I'll bet there are more inaccurate posts than factual.
> >
> > Lou- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
> Cast Iron is clearly the food item with the most mythology on the net.
> I wonder what the most mythology, total, is? Vaccinations, probably.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, "Seasoning" is black crud. The black crud
> that won't come off pots and pans. To understand the care of
> seasoning, apply hard-won knowledge of black crud.
>
> Greg Zywicki
>
I grew up in a home with southern traditions ie we fried everything in cast
iron. At 15 I started work in a hospital kitchen after school and summers
till I went to college. I could never understand the administators
insistance that we use literally tons of abrasives and other chemicals every
year to make those pots and pans shiny. If you get sick to your stomach in
the hospital it's because all the dishes, pots and pans are literally
scrubbed and rinsed in what amounts to Clorox bleach with abrasives added.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> "Terry" > wrote:
>
>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>
>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>
> Don't put it in the dishwasher - you'll destroy the seasoning you work
> so diligently to attain.

Dishwasher!?
That energy hog?
That totem to sloth?
What in hell is wrong with washing dishes by hand?
It was a social function in my home when I was growing up.
Dad and I took turns washing or drying - mom cooked.
It was a continuing lesson in responsibility, politics and quality control..
"Dirty - reject" - this from the dryer.
My dad and I bonded over this 'chore' while my appreciative mother put her
feet up.
I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with my dad!

Yours in nostalgia.
Ken.

Ken Davey wrote:
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article . com>,
>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>
>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>
>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>
>> Don't put it in the dishwasher - you'll destroy the seasoning you
>> work so diligently to attain.
>
> Dishwasher!?
> That energy hog?
> That totem to sloth?
> What in hell is wrong with washing dishes by hand?
> It was a social function in my home when I was growing up.
> Dad and I took turns washing or drying - mom cooked.
> It was a continuing lesson in responsibility, politics and quality
> control.. "Dirty - reject" - this from the dryer.
> My dad and I bonded over this 'chore' while my appreciative mother
> put her feet up.
> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with my
> dad!
>
> Yours in nostalgia.
> Ken.

You can always come over to my house and help me with mine. :~)

kili
--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

"kilikini" > wrote in message
. ..
> Ken Davey wrote:
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article . com>,
>>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher during the
>>>> wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>>
>>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>>
>>> Don't put it in the dishwasher - you'll destroy the seasoning you
>>> work so diligently to attain.
>>
>> Dishwasher!?
>> That energy hog?
>> That totem to sloth?
>> What in hell is wrong with washing dishes by hand?
>> It was a social function in my home when I was growing up.
>> Dad and I took turns washing or drying - mom cooked.
>> It was a continuing lesson in responsibility, politics and quality
>> control.. "Dirty - reject" - this from the dryer.
>> My dad and I bonded over this 'chore' while my appreciative mother
>> put her feet up.
>> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with my
>> dad!
>>
>> Yours in nostalgia.
>> Ken.
>
> You can always come over to my house and help me with mine. :~)
>
> kili
> --
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>
I would if I could love.
As it is I am in Honduras recovering as best as I can from cancer treatment.
Good medicine this place.
Keep your sense of humour and your positive attitude and you will be OK.

Ken.

On Nov 14, 11:03 am, Peter A > wrote:
> In article om>,
> says...
>
> > As far as I'm concerned, "Seasoning" is black crud. The black crud
> > that won't come off pots and pans. To understand the care of
> > seasoning, apply hard-won knowledge of black crud.Seasoning on cast iron is not black crud.

Well, it is black and...
> Well, maybe it is on your pans
> but not anyone else's! It's a result of polymerization of the oils under
> heat, causing the molecules to link together and to the iron.

The difference between "Heat induced polymerization of sterol
hydrocarbons" and "crud" is a four year science/engineering degree.

The primary difference between the coating on a cast iron skillet and
the black bits that refuse to let go of a lasagna pan is intent. There
are, of course, secondary differnces since cheese is not lard.

Greg Zywicki

"Zywicki" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
>
> On Nov 14, 11:03 am, Peter A > wrote:
>> In article om>,
>> says...
>>
>> > As far as I'm concerned, "Seasoning" is black crud. The black crud
>> > that won't come off pots and pans. To understand the care of
>> > seasoning, apply hard-won knowledge of black crud.Seasoning on cast
>> > iron is not black crud.
>
> Well, it is black and...
>> Well, maybe it is on your pans
>> but not anyone else's! It's a result of polymerization of the oils under
>> heat, causing the molecules to link together and to the iron.
>
> The difference between "Heat induced polymerization of sterol
> hydrocarbons" and "crud" is a four year science/engineering degree.
>
> The primary difference between the coating on a cast iron skillet and
> the black bits that refuse to let go of a lasagna pan is intent. There
> are, of course, secondary differnces since cheese is not lard.
>
> Greg Zywicki
>

Why does it matter, anyway? Seasoning works. A seasoned pan can be cleaned
between uses. What else is there, as criteria for the usefulness of a cast
iron pan?

Ken Davey wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Ken Davey wrote:
>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> In article . com>,
>>>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>>>
>>> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with
>>> my dad!
>>>
>>> Yours in nostalgia.
>>> Ken.
>>
>> You can always come over to my house and help me with mine. :~)
>>
>>
> I would if I could love.
> As it is I am in Honduras recovering as best as I can from cancer
> treatment. Good medicine this place.
> Keep your sense of humour and your positive attitude and you will be
> OK.
>
> Ken.

Best of luck to you as well, then, Ken. I didn't know you were in a similar
predicament as I.

kili
--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

"kilikini" > wrote in message
.. .
> Ken Davey wrote:
>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Ken Davey wrote:
>>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> In article . com>,
>>>>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with
>>>> my dad!
>>>>
>>>> Yours in nostalgia.
>>>> Ken.
>>>
>>> You can always come over to my house and help me with mine. :~)
>>>
>>>
>> I would if I could love.
>> As it is I am in Honduras recovering as best as I can from cancer
>> treatment. Good medicine this place.
>> Keep your sense of humour and your positive attitude and you will be
>> OK.
>>
>> Ken.
>
> Best of luck to you as well, then, Ken. I didn't know you were in a
> similar
> predicament as I.
>
> kili
> --
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

Similar - yes.
The difference is I am engaged in climbing out of the pit while you are
beginning your dsecent.
Have faith in yourself and your medical team.
Remember: You will not be around to hear the worst news possible so relax..
You are about to join a club (cancer survivors) and it is full of pragmatic
and generous folk.
You WILL be a survivor! To think otherwise is to think the unthinkable!
Your friends (and loved ones) will divide themselves into two groups; those
who say "If there is anything I can do just ask" and those who will run
away, unable to face the reality of your condition.
Trust me on this.
Do not be too hard on the latter group. They too will eventually come to
your aid. It just takes time for them to absorb the truth and calm their own
fears.
I am with you all the way.
If you are having doubts or a bad day give me a shout
and I will, at the least, try to calm your fears.
Go forth bravely!
And it is not a sin to be scared shitless - I know - I have been there.

Love of the finest kind.
Ken.

"Ken Davey" > wrote in message
...
>
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> Ken Davey wrote:
>>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> Ken Davey wrote:
>>>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> In article . com>,
>>>>>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more time with
>>>>> my dad!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours in nostalgia.
>>>>> Ken.
>>>>
>>>> You can always come over to my house and help me with mine. :~)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would if I could love.
>>> As it is I am in Honduras recovering as best as I can from cancer
>>> treatment. Good medicine this place.
>>> Keep your sense of humour and your positive attitude and you will be
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> Ken.
>>
>> Best of luck to you as well, then, Ken. I didn't know you were in a
>> similar
>> predicament as I.
>>
>> kili
>> --
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
>
> Similar - yes.
> The difference is I am engaged in climbing out of the pit while you are
> beginning your dsecent.
> Have faith in yourself and your medical team.
> Remember: You will not be around to hear the worst news possible so
> relax..
> You are about to join a club (cancer survivors) and it is full of
> pragmatic and generous folk.
> You WILL be a survivor! To think otherwise is to think the unthinkable!
> Your friends (and loved ones) will divide themselves into two groups;
> those who say "If there is anything I can do just ask" and those who will
> run away, unable to face the reality of your condition.
> Trust me on this.
> Do not be too hard on the latter group. They too will eventually come to
> your aid. It just takes time for them to absorb the truth and calm their
> own fears.
> I am with you all the way.
> If you are having doubts or a bad day give me a shout
> and I will, at the least, try to calm your fears.
> Go forth bravely!
> And it is not a sin to be scared shitless - I know - I have been there.
>
> Love of the finest kind.
> Ken.
>
Just to let you know - you don't need a 'bad day' to reach out to me.

Ken.

Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in
28.19:

> Oh pshaw, on Mon 13 Nov 2006 11:36:10a, Terry meant to
> say...
>
>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher
>> during the wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>
>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.

> Yes, it would be very bad. Don't do it.

it's an easy way to get them cleaned up to reseason when you
buy a good one at the antique store...
i bought 2 somewhat rusty & very cruddy Griswald skillets
($5). after a week of off & on work with steel wool and Coke,
i just gave up & put them in the dishwasher on 'pots & pans'.
worked great. they're now seasoned & in use. i do prefer the
old smooth surfaces to the crappy bumpy new cast iron.

also worked with a dutch oven that smelled like cat pee....
lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

skyhooks > wrote in
:

> I quickly clean my 8" cast iron skillet by heating to very
> hot until it practically smokes, then put it under running
> hot water and quickly scrub it with a wire brush (YMWV*
> with this method & WARNING - beware of steam). Simple and
> fast as that - a whole lot quicker than waiting for a
> dishwasher cycle.

how hot is your running water? sounds like a good way to get a
thermal crack...
lee
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"Ken Davey" > wrote in
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>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in
> message
> ...
>> In article
>> . com>,
>> "Terry" > wrote:
>>
>>> Would it be bad to put an iron skillet in the dishwasher
>>> during the wash and take it out before the dry cycle?
>>>
>>> I know you are supposed to dry these things on the stove.
>>
>> Don't put it in the dishwasher - you'll destroy the
>> seasoning you work so diligently to attain.
>
> Dishwasher!?
> That energy hog?
> That totem to sloth?
> What in hell is wrong with washing dishes by hand?

the modern dishwasher uses less water than hand washing. it
*is* an energy hog if you use the heated dry function, but if
you do, then you can't add humidity to the house by air drying
(i have a hard time getting indoor humidity over 20% in
winter. i get a lot of nosebleeds)

> It was a social function in my home when I was growing up.

loading the dishwasher & putting the dishes away are still
social functions here.

> Dad and I took turns washing or drying - mom cooked.

drying dishes with a towel is unsanitary. when i didn't have a
dishwasher, i still left everything to air dry.

> I would give anything to be able to wash dishes one more
> time with my dad!

well, i'm sure my son will be nostalgic about loading the
dishwasher with us...
lee
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On Nov 14, 4:01 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> > The primary difference between the coating on a cast iron skillet and
> > the black bits that refuse to let go of a lasagna pan is intent. There
> > are, of course, secondary differnces since cheese is not lard.
>
> > Greg Zywicki

>Why does it matter, anyway? Seasoning works. A seasoned pan can be cleaned
> between uses. What else is there, as criteria for the usefulness of a cast
> iron pan?

The only reason it matters is that there's so much mythology built
around cast iron seasoning. "Don't keep it in the same kitchen as dish
detergeant. Don't use it when sun-spots are out. Etc. Etc."

Most of us have experience with trying to get black crud off a pan. A
quick wipe with soap won't do. A prolonged physical or chemical attack
will. So, if you're worried about your seasoning, just avoid scrubbing
it or soaking it with a caustic or a powerful degreaser.

Greg Zywicki

"Zywicki" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> On Nov 14, 4:01 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> > The primary difference between the coating on a cast iron skillet and
>> > the black bits that refuse to let go of a lasagna pan is intent. There
>> > are, of course, secondary differnces since cheese is not lard.
>>
>> > Greg Zywicki
>
>>Why does it matter, anyway? Seasoning works. A seasoned pan can be cleaned
>> between uses. What else is there, as criteria for the usefulness of a
>> cast
>> iron pan?
>
> The only reason it matters is that there's so much mythology built
> around cast iron seasoning. "Don't keep it in the same kitchen as dish
> detergeant. Don't use it when sun-spots are out. Etc. Etc."
>
> Most of us have experience with trying to get black crud off a pan. A
> quick wipe with soap won't do. A prolonged physical or chemical attack
> will. So, if you're worried about your seasoning, just avoid scrubbing
> it or soaking it with a caustic or a powerful degreaser.
>
> Greg Zywicki
>

I've never seen this black crud, except once when my mother in law thought
it was a good idea to put the cast iron pan on a hot burner 10 minutes
before the eggs were ready to go in.

enigma wrote:

> the modern dishwasher uses less water than hand washing. it
> is an energy hog if you use the heated dry function, but if
> you do, then you can't add humidity to the house by air drying
> (i have a hard time getting indoor humidity over 20% in
> winter. i get a lot of nosebleeds)

Vectoring off in another direction, I strongly recommend you get a
humidifier. I have the free-standing console model (generally runs
about $100) and it makes a world of difference in the comfort level
during winter. Cuts down on the nasty static sparks, and helps with my
tendency towards dry skin.



Brian
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On Nov 16, 11:13 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Zywicki" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 14, 4:01 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> > The primary difference between the coating on a cast iron skillet and
> >> > the black bits that refuse to let go of a lasagna pan is intent. There
> >> > are, of course, secondary differnces since cheese is not lard.
>
> >> > Greg Zywicki
>
> >>Why does it matter, anyway? Seasoning works. A seasoned pan can be cleaned
> >> between uses. What else is there, as criteria for the usefulness of a
> >> cast
> >> iron pan?
>
> > The only reason it matters is that there's so much mythology built
> > around cast iron seasoning. "Don't keep it in the same kitchen as dish
> > detergeant. Don't use it when sun-spots are out. Etc. Etc."
>
> > Most of us have experience with trying to get black crud off a pan. A
> > quick wipe with soap won't do. A prolonged physical or chemical attack
> > will. So, if you're worried about your seasoning, just avoid scrubbing
> > it or soaking it with a caustic or a powerful degreaser.
>
> > Greg ZywickiI've never seen this black crud, except once when my mother in law thought
> it was a good idea to put the cast iron pan on a hot burner 10 minutes
> before the eggs were ready to go in.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

"Default User" > wrote in
:

> enigma wrote:
>
>> the modern dishwasher uses less water than hand washing.
>> it
>> is an energy hog if you use the heated dry function, but
>> if you do, then you can't add humidity to the house by air
>> drying (i have a hard time getting indoor humidity over
>> 20% in winter. i get a lot of nosebleeds)
>
> Vectoring off in another direction, I strongly recommend
> you get a humidifier. I have the free-standing console
> model (generally runs about $100) and it makes a world of
> difference in the comfort level during winter. Cuts down on
> the nasty static sparks, and helps with my tendency towards
> dry skin.

sadly, i have a whole house humidifier on my furnace, a 1500
sq.ft humidifier in my dining room & a small humidifier in my
bedroom. i had the whole house humidifier tweeked last winter
by my plumber & we did get the house to 25% humidity.
it's an old house, post & beam with plaster walls. it soaks
up a lot of moisture.
i have a 20 gallon aquarium & an open 30 gallon pen for my
snapping turtle, plus both tortoise cages are wet down
frequently (i have to microclimate them to almost 80%
humidity. that's *really* hard), & i mist the plants. i really
do try to get the humidity at least up to 40%... i just
generally fail.
lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
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fear. - Thomas Jefferson