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c5
 
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Default Beer Cans Wanted (Pub Beer Cans are Art)

I am a collector of beer cans of sorts. I have been collecting English
pub beer (pint) cans for a while. I make some into lamps. (Yeah, well,
I'm weird. But they look cool to me: http://gajennings.net/lamps/)

But I live in southeastern Massachusetts. And it is rare to find a
place that sells good beer in cans beyond the several that I already
have.

The English pub beer cans are ART as far as I am concerned, as
Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's so elegantly show.

So I'm thinking, perhaps people could offer to me information about
places to get more of these really excellent looking pub beer cans.

Maybe people trade in beer cans? I am willing to consider buying cans.
However, they are delicate and not easily shipped (unless full ;-).

P.S.

If I am posting in the wrong place feel free to flame me at my yahoo
account.

P.P.S.

The r.f.d.b. FAQ Subject: 5-4. Can I get beer in the mail? has a broken
link by the way.

P.P.P.S.

If you happen to see my Pub Beer Can lamps and are interested, I will
not make any out of any beer any where near the likes of budwiser et
al.

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re. your P.P.P.S.:
Yet you make them out of "Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's"?

"c5" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I am a collector of beer cans of sorts. I have been collecting English
> pub beer (pint) cans for a while. I make some into lamps. (Yeah, well,
> I'm weird. But they look cool to me: http://gajennings.net/lamps/)
>
> But I live in southeastern Massachusetts. And it is rare to find a
> place that sells good beer in cans beyond the several that I already
> have.
>
> The English pub beer cans are ART as far as I am concerned, as
> Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's so elegantly show.
>
> So I'm thinking, perhaps people could offer to me information about
> places to get more of these really excellent looking pub beer cans.
>
> Maybe people trade in beer cans? I am willing to consider buying cans.
> However, they are delicate and not easily shipped (unless full ;-).
>
> P.S.
>
> If I am posting in the wrong place feel free to flame me at my yahoo
> account.
>
> P.P.S.
>
> The r.f.d.b. FAQ Subject: 5-4. Can I get beer in the mail? has a broken
> link by the way.
>
> P.P.P.S.
>
> If you happen to see my Pub Beer Can lamps and are interested, I will
> not make any out of any beer any where near the likes of budwiser et
> al.
>



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The Archer wrote:
> re. your P.P.P.S.:
> Yet you make them out of "Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's"?


I'm willing to bet that his point was that Budweiser's can are ungly as
sin. While the above beers' containers are very nicely laid out (in my
opinion, and I assume his as well).

\\paul


> "c5" > wrote in message
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>
>>I am a collector of beer cans of sorts. I have been collecting English
>>pub beer (pint) cans for a while. I make some into lamps. (Yeah, well,
>>I'm weird. But they look cool to me: http://gajennings.net/lamps/)
>>
>>But I live in southeastern Massachusetts. And it is rare to find a
>>place that sells good beer in cans beyond the several that I already
>>have.
>>
>>The English pub beer cans are ART as far as I am concerned, as
>>Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's so elegantly show.
>>
>>So I'm thinking, perhaps people could offer to me information about
>>places to get more of these really excellent looking pub beer cans.
>>
>>Maybe people trade in beer cans? I am willing to consider buying cans.
>>However, they are delicate and not easily shipped (unless full ;-).
>>
>>P.S.
>>
>>If I am posting in the wrong place feel free to flame me at my yahoo
>>account.
>>
>>P.P.S.
>>
>>The r.f.d.b. FAQ Subject: 5-4. Can I get beer in the mail? has a broken
>>link by the way.
>>
>>P.P.P.S.
>>
>>If you happen to see my Pub Beer Can lamps and are interested, I will
>>not make any out of any beer any where near the likes of budwiser et
>>al.
>>

>
>
>



--
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c5 wrote:
>>re. your P.P.P.S.:
>>Yet you make them out of "Boddingtons, Tetley's and Caffrey's"?

>
>
> Not sure what you mean.


That's obvious.

> There are two things, to me, about quality, with regard to creating
> something that will be part of a home's decor. In this case quality is
> two fold: aesthetic and taste.
>
> [...]
> There are several reasons why I would use a term like "the likes of
> Budweiser et. al." For everyday drinking in a bar or when coming home
> from work and quenching your thirst, "the likes of Budweiser et. al."
> are fine. But as far as, in this context, making what I consider
> (dubious or not) a piece of art who would want to use a generic
> mass-marketed, corporate "logo" that exemplifies cheap production and
> poor taste? Bud, Michelob, Heinekin, Zima etc. -- hyped up imagery more
> than simple quality.


Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of Boddington's,
Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything but mass-produced industrial
beers, and not so very different from the boring mass-produced lagers
and FMB you mention? Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap,
Tetley's is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
other two. They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob, Heinekin,
Zima etc." than you apparently realize.
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dgs

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dgs wrote:

---- snip ----

>
> Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of Boddington's,
> Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything but mass-produced industrial
> beers, and not so very different from the boring mass-produced lagers
> and FMB you mention? Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap,
> Tetley's is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
> other two. They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob, Heinekin,
> Zima etc." than you apparently realize.



However, in my experience, they are far less gassy than the latter
bunch. This alone may make them considerably more appealing to some folks.

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"dgs" > wrote in message
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> Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of Boddington's,
> Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything but mass-produced industrial
> beers, and not so very different from the boring mass-produced lagers
> and FMB you mention? Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap,
> Tetley's is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
> other two. They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob, Heinekin,
> Zima etc." than you apparently realize.


Just my opinion, Don, but I'd much rather have a Tetley's than the other
two. I honestly think it's quite a step up from Boddington's.

--
Lew Bryson

"GOOD or SHITE?" -- Michael Jackson, "Thriller", 1982
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Lew Bryson wrote:

> "dgs" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of Boddington's,
>>Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything but mass-produced industrial
>>beers, and not so very different from the boring mass-produced lagers
>>and FMB you mention? Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap,
>>Tetley's is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
>>other two. They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob, Heinekin,
>>Zima etc." than you apparently realize.

>
>
> Just my opinion, Don, but I'd much rather have a Tetley's than the other
> two. I honestly think it's quite a step up from Boddington's.


You're right, but it's still nothing impressive. My point is that if
someone's going to get all fussy about an after-market use for a
container - say, a beer can - there's not a lot of point fussing about
what used to be in it. The vast majority of breweries churning out
canned beer are not usually little mom-and-pop businesses making
unique specialty brews. The exceptions, like Oskar Blues in Colorado,
are still pretty small in number. Reminds me to stop in somewhere for
cans of Old Chub and Dale's Pale Ale, though.
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dgs

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Lew Bryson wrote:

> "dgs" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of Boddington's,
>>Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything but mass-produced industrial
>>beers, and not so very different from the boring mass-produced lagers
>>and FMB you mention? Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap,
>>Tetley's is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
>>other two. They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob, Heinekin,
>>Zima etc." than you apparently realize.

>
>
> Just my opinion, Don, but I'd much rather have a Tetley's than the other
> two. I honestly think it's quite a step up from Boddington's.


You're right, but it's still nothing impressive. My point is that if
someone's going to get all fussy about an after-market use for a
container - say, a beer can - there's not a lot of point fussing about
what used to be in it. The vast majority of breweries churning out
canned beer are not usually little mom-and-pop businesses making
unique specialty brews. The exceptions, like Oskar Blues in Colorado,
are still pretty small in number. Reminds me to stop in somewhere for
cans of Old Chub and Dale's Pale Ale, though.
--
dgs

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"dgs" > wrote in message
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> Lew Bryson wrote:
>> Just my opinion, Don, but I'd much rather have a Tetley's than the other
>> two. I honestly think it's quite a step up from Boddington's.

>
> You're right, but it's still nothing impressive.


Wouldn't go out of my way for it, but I'd drink it.

> unique specialty brews. The exceptions, like Oskar Blues in Colorado,
> are still pretty small in number. Reminds me to stop in somewhere for
> cans of Old Chub and Dale's Pale Ale, though.


Yeah. They're GOOD!

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"dgs" > wrote in message
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> Lew Bryson wrote:
>> Just my opinion, Don, but I'd much rather have a Tetley's than the other
>> two. I honestly think it's quite a step up from Boddington's.

>
> You're right, but it's still nothing impressive.


Wouldn't go out of my way for it, but I'd drink it.

> unique specialty brews. The exceptions, like Oskar Blues in Colorado,
> are still pretty small in number. Reminds me to stop in somewhere for
> cans of Old Chub and Dale's Pale Ale, though.


Yeah. They're GOOD!

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Lew Bryson

"GOOD or SHITE?" -- Michael Jackson, "Thriller", 1982
www.lewbryson.com




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c5 wrote:

> dgs wrote:
>
>>Are you suffering from the delusion that the likes of
>>Boddington's, Tetley's, and Caffrety's are anything
>>but mass-produced industrial beers, and not so very
>>different from the boring mass-produced lagers
>>and FMB you mention?

>
> Apparently so. Did I miss that Caffery's was competing with Bud for
> Super Bowl commercials?


You're looking in the wrong country. No matter what its country of
origin, the Caffrey's brand is owned by the company that acquired the
part of Bass's brand assets that Interbrew - er, "InBev" - had to
sell off. Wanna guess what the company is? Hint: Golden, Colorado.

And in the UK and Ireland, you'd better believe that Caffrey's is just
another mass-market brand, produced by the same company that markets
Carling lager there. Just because a brand isn't being flogged at some
American mass-media sports event doesn't mean it's not a mass-market
beer. You'll see plenty of Caffrey's brand marketing in the UK and
Ireland. Enough with the America-centric viewpoint, already.

>>Boddington's is nitro-canned flavorless crap, Tetley's
>>is bland and dull, and Caffrey's is little better than the
>>other two.

>
> Oh please. How much is *OPINION* here?


In case you haven't heard, it's *all* opinion, including your views on
the merits of mass-produced lagers like Bud, Heineken, et al. So big
deal: these are British mass-produced ales. The lot of 'em are pretty
boring, too. And it's the big guys who can afford the mass-production
facilities, including the canning lines.

>>They are closer to the likes of "Bud, Michelob,
>>Heinekin, Zima etc." than you apparently realize.

>
> Oh please again. Thing is, some beer *has* flavour. Certainly Heinekin
> does, but those others? Bland and dul indeed.


Boddington's - the stuff in the nitrocans, anyway - has flavo(u)r?
Compared to a decent ale - even a bottled product from the likes of,
say, Fuller's - no, hardly any at all. Tetley's has a little flavor.
Caffrey's? Whatever. I was quite disappointed the first time I
tried that stuff, back when it was new and featured at a Bass pub.
Nice color, but tasted of hardly anything. Fortunately, the same
pub had some Highgate Mild on cask, in middling good condition.

Boddington's is a brand owned by one of the largest brewing
conglomerates in the world. That conglomerate, due to last year's
merger, is now comparable to Anheuser-Busch in size. Boddie's is in no
way some specialty brew from a small or regional brewery, and barely
rates being mentioned in the same sentence with Hyde's, Holt's, or
Lees, located in the same British city where the Strangeways brewery
has been brewing Boddington's - a brewery that is due to be shut down
by the InBev brewing conglomerate.

> (Granted, my crap regarding "quality" cans as decor was, well,
> crap. I can always open a bewpub instead.)


Or you could score some of the Oscar Blues canned beers, if you're
fortunate enough to live where they're sold. Great stuff in those cans.
And there are other damn good canned beers, including more than a few
from Germany and the Czech Republic. But if micro-canning spreads in
the USA, you're going to see some great, flavorful canned beers out
there, and some of the packaging might even be deemed worthy enough
for your art projects.
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dgs wrote:

>> Oh please. How much is *OPINION* here?

>
>In case you haven't heard, it's *all* opinion, including your views


Yes I know. You just came on a bit harsh and felt that I had to remind
you. ;-)

Thanks for the intelligent reply.

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