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Matthew L. Martin 11-09-2004 05:40 PM

If I go clay ...
 
I think that it will be the sale configuration:

SS bands
SS grill
mosaic cart
Temperature guage

With the following:

Gas option
SS upper cooking bracket
(I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)
SS lower drip pan bracket
SS meat hanger
Mushikamado SS double cooking grid
SS grill scraper
As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.

No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?

Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?

Matthew (or and HDTV)

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

Dave Bugg 11-09-2004 06:00 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


Matthew, I have one of those plastic utility tables from Costco that I
placed next to the Kamado.



Dave Bugg 11-09-2004 06:00 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


Matthew, I have one of those plastic utility tables from Costco that I
placed next to the Kamado.



James Emanuel 11-09-2004 07:16 PM


"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
> SS bands
> SS grill
> mosaic cart
> Temperature guage


Good price in my opinion for the end of summer sale


>
> With the following:
>
> Gas option


Good choice, includes the lumpsaver. You might want to get the standard
firebox and draft door also as an extra, these would not be included if you
buy the gas option.

> SS upper cooking bracket
> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


Actually the upper grill consists of an 18" grill and a grill stand. The
$39 for the SS main grill is the UPGRADE price. Off the shelf for that
grill is $69.

> SS lower drip pan bracket


Yes

> SS meat hanger


I don't have this and don't miss it.

> Mushikamado SS double cooking grid


I don't have, don't need

> SS grill scraper


Ditto

> As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.


I got a free sample of the K charcoal recently at the cookoff in Sacto. I
like it, but find it's kind of expensive compared to the Lazzari lump at
about $12.00 / 40# delivered (pallet load) in S.F. east bay.
>
> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


It (K7) doesn't take two hands to open. on mine, the lid opens easily with
one hand, and stays up by itself, the set screws on the lid props aren't
needed. I have heard from some that the K9 does need the prop screws to
stay open. I do have one side table, like it, sometimes wish I had two. My
only complaint about mine is that it kind of looks like it's sagging (the
fit isn't perfect).

I would also highly recommend a pizza stone/heat deflector (15" dia), either
Kamado's or otherwise. I also use a 12" square concrete paving stone as a
heat deflector when I am using the pizza stone.

>
> Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?


It's pretty rare that I require something bigger than my K7. Saw a K9 at
the cookoff. They are huge. My K7 easily does a whole brisket and 2-3
butts. Obviously, my opinion on tile would not mean a thing to you, but do
think about how it would look in your yard 25 years from now. i.e. avoid
"fad" colors
>
> Matthew (or and HDTV)
>
> --
> Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
> You can't win
> You can't break even
> You can't get out of the game




Jack Curry 11-09-2004 07:59 PM

Matthew,

I got my #7 on the same sale two years ago and added the upper grill, lower
drip pan bracket and gas option. I love everything I got, including the
lumpsaver plus that comes with the gas option. For $100, you'll never start
a fire faster or easier than with the gas and I even use it to start
low/slows.
The upper grill is vital and with it you can cook a huge amount of meat all
at once. Maybe even as much as on a ECBX2.
I passed on the meat hanger and mushikamado and have no regrets. The side
tables are nice, but a plastic lawn table works fine for me.
Regardless of the options you choose, you'll love a Kamado.

Jack Curry



Jack Curry 11-09-2004 07:59 PM

Matthew,

I got my #7 on the same sale two years ago and added the upper grill, lower
drip pan bracket and gas option. I love everything I got, including the
lumpsaver plus that comes with the gas option. For $100, you'll never start
a fire faster or easier than with the gas and I even use it to start
low/slows.
The upper grill is vital and with it you can cook a huge amount of meat all
at once. Maybe even as much as on a ECBX2.
I passed on the meat hanger and mushikamado and have no regrets. The side
tables are nice, but a plastic lawn table works fine for me.
Regardless of the options you choose, you'll love a Kamado.

Jack Curry



Jack Curry 11-09-2004 07:59 PM

Matthew,

I got my #7 on the same sale two years ago and added the upper grill, lower
drip pan bracket and gas option. I love everything I got, including the
lumpsaver plus that comes with the gas option. For $100, you'll never start
a fire faster or easier than with the gas and I even use it to start
low/slows.
The upper grill is vital and with it you can cook a huge amount of meat all
at once. Maybe even as much as on a ECBX2.
I passed on the meat hanger and mushikamado and have no regrets. The side
tables are nice, but a plastic lawn table works fine for me.
Regardless of the options you choose, you'll love a Kamado.

Jack Curry



Kevin S. Wilson 11-09-2004 08:45 PM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:16:23 GMT, "James Emanuel"
> wrote:

>I would also highly recommend a pizza stone/heat deflector (15" dia), either
>Kamado's or otherwise. I also use a 12" square concrete paving stone as a
>heat deflector when I am using the pizza stone.


Hmmm. You might want to reconsider that concrete paving stone. I seem
to recall that concrete--under the right circumstances--can turn into
shrapnel when heated.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Kevin S. Wilson 11-09-2004 08:54 PM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:40:00 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>SS upper cooking bracket
> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


You really don't need the more expensive grill. I'd guess that all
you'll mostly be doing is parking big chunks of meat on the upper
grill.

>No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
>least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


I made a low bench out of some clay pots and a slab of stone. Pics
he

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/turkey/turkey.htm

or more directly:

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/turkey/roast.htm

>Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?


A 7 is pretty big, but then again nothing succeeds like excess. For
pics of a 7 on delivery day, showing the crate, go he

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/bbq/bbq.htm

To get a sense of its size, note that the cedar fence pickets are 6'
and the paving stones are 8" W X 12" L.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Kevin S. Wilson 11-09-2004 08:54 PM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:40:00 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>SS upper cooking bracket
> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


You really don't need the more expensive grill. I'd guess that all
you'll mostly be doing is parking big chunks of meat on the upper
grill.

>No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
>least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


I made a low bench out of some clay pots and a slab of stone. Pics
he

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/turkey/turkey.htm

or more directly:

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/turkey/roast.htm

>Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?


A 7 is pretty big, but then again nothing succeeds like excess. For
pics of a 7 on delivery day, showing the crate, go he

http://www.webpak.net/~rescyou/bbq/bbq.htm

To get a sense of its size, note that the cedar fence pickets are 6'
and the paving stones are 8" W X 12" L.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Radar 11-09-2004 10:25 PM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:40:00 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
>SS bands
>SS grill
>mosaic cart
>Temperature guage
>
>With the following:
>
>Gas option
>SS upper cooking bracket
> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)
>SS lower drip pan bracket
>SS meat hanger
>Mushikamado SS double cooking grid
>SS grill scraper
>As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.
>
>No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
>least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?
>
>Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?
>
>Matthew (or and HDTV)


Just as one more data point, I have one side table and I wish I had
gotten two. They come in handy and they look nice. They aren't
essential by any means, but I do like the way the tile matches the
rest of the Kamado. To each his own.

I put a cast iron cauldron in the hole in the mushikamado grill and
rest it on the lower bracket. My cauldron is heavy and will bend a
grill if it isn't supported in some way, but the lower bracket
provides plenty of support. With this setup I can barbecue a lot of
pork shoulders on the grill and still have room for some beans or
maybe some roasted vegetables in the dutch over.

Go with the #9. Nobody ever wished they had a smaller grill.


Radar 11-09-2004 10:25 PM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:40:00 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
>SS bands
>SS grill
>mosaic cart
>Temperature guage
>
>With the following:
>
>Gas option
>SS upper cooking bracket
> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)
>SS lower drip pan bracket
>SS meat hanger
>Mushikamado SS double cooking grid
>SS grill scraper
>As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.
>
>No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
>least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?
>
>Now to decide, a #7 or #9...? Then, what tile?
>
>Matthew (or and HDTV)


Just as one more data point, I have one side table and I wish I had
gotten two. They come in handy and they look nice. They aren't
essential by any means, but I do like the way the tile matches the
rest of the Kamado. To each his own.

I put a cast iron cauldron in the hole in the mushikamado grill and
rest it on the lower bracket. My cauldron is heavy and will bend a
grill if it isn't supported in some way, but the lower bracket
provides plenty of support. With this setup I can barbecue a lot of
pork shoulders on the grill and still have room for some beans or
maybe some roasted vegetables in the dutch over.

Go with the #9. Nobody ever wished they had a smaller grill.


Matthew L. Martin 11-09-2004 10:34 PM

Radar wrote:

>
> Go with the #9. Nobody ever wished they had a smaller grill.
>


Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.

Matthew (leaning towards a #9.... or is that a #7)

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

BOB 11-09-2004 10:54 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
> SS bands
> SS grill
> mosaic cart
> Temperature gauge


Great!

>
> With the following:
>
> Gas option


*I* think you'll be glad that you bought it.
For $15 more, add the regular draft door. Just trust me on this. ;-)

> SS upper cooking bracket


Yes, definitely.

> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


That does sound high, BUT remember that the $39 is the upgrade from the regular
grill, not the complete price.
I didn't order the upper grill with my #5, decided to use one I bought at
Lowes/HomeDepot/wherever. I recently ordered a Kamado upper grill along with
the meat hanger (and a meat hanger for my #3) I like the fit of the Kamado
grill much better. YMMV of course.

> SS lower drip pan bracket


Definite YES!

> SS meat hanger


I think you would have ordered one eventually. I did.

> Mushikamado SS double cooking grid


Can't comment. They don't make one for anything smaller than the #7, but I
like the idea. I welder friend keeps promising to build me one for my #5, maybe
I should take him some ribs, pulled pork and a brisket...

> SS grill scraper


Yes. I like mine. It fits and scrapes *all* of my Kamado made grills, but
*not* the after market grills.
Monroe has 9,725 (at last count) uses for one. Backscratcher comes to mind.

> As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.


LOL, you've already experienced the stuff. I think you'll like it even better
in your new ceramic.
30 boxes is the minimum pallet (when NOT ordered with your Kamado). Get a group
and really save on shipping. I'm working on the SECOND order coming to Orlando.
..
>
> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


Not an option for my #5, so I never considered them.

>
> Now to decide, a #7 or #9...?


OK, you want one of the big guys. Think this way...a #7 (I've cooked 6 of the
"Sam's" butts on my #5) for your big one, then a #3 (or #5?) so you can cook
different things at the same time, at different temperatures. I do realize that
you've already got a yard full of cookers, it's just a suggestion. ;-)

> Then, what tile?


I have the Terra Blue. I'm happy with it. My brother and sister-in-law have
the Cobalt Blue. They're happy with it. Cobalt Blue is the most popular color.
They've run out in the past, causing delays (but that could happen with any
color). I'm guessing that you've already been through the Kamado website and
forum looking at all the colors. What's in your yard to accent, match and or
complement?
>
> Matthew (or and HDTV)
>
> --
> Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
> You can't win
> You can't break even
> You can't get out of the game





BOB 11-09-2004 10:54 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
> SS bands
> SS grill
> mosaic cart
> Temperature gauge


Great!

>
> With the following:
>
> Gas option


*I* think you'll be glad that you bought it.
For $15 more, add the regular draft door. Just trust me on this. ;-)

> SS upper cooking bracket


Yes, definitely.

> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


That does sound high, BUT remember that the $39 is the upgrade from the regular
grill, not the complete price.
I didn't order the upper grill with my #5, decided to use one I bought at
Lowes/HomeDepot/wherever. I recently ordered a Kamado upper grill along with
the meat hanger (and a meat hanger for my #3) I like the fit of the Kamado
grill much better. YMMV of course.

> SS lower drip pan bracket


Definite YES!

> SS meat hanger


I think you would have ordered one eventually. I did.

> Mushikamado SS double cooking grid


Can't comment. They don't make one for anything smaller than the #7, but I
like the idea. I welder friend keeps promising to build me one for my #5, maybe
I should take him some ribs, pulled pork and a brisket...

> SS grill scraper


Yes. I like mine. It fits and scrapes *all* of my Kamado made grills, but
*not* the after market grills.
Monroe has 9,725 (at last count) uses for one. Backscratcher comes to mind.

> As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.


LOL, you've already experienced the stuff. I think you'll like it even better
in your new ceramic.
30 boxes is the minimum pallet (when NOT ordered with your Kamado). Get a group
and really save on shipping. I'm working on the SECOND order coming to Orlando.
..
>
> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


Not an option for my #5, so I never considered them.

>
> Now to decide, a #7 or #9...?


OK, you want one of the big guys. Think this way...a #7 (I've cooked 6 of the
"Sam's" butts on my #5) for your big one, then a #3 (or #5?) so you can cook
different things at the same time, at different temperatures. I do realize that
you've already got a yard full of cookers, it's just a suggestion. ;-)

> Then, what tile?


I have the Terra Blue. I'm happy with it. My brother and sister-in-law have
the Cobalt Blue. They're happy with it. Cobalt Blue is the most popular color.
They've run out in the past, causing delays (but that could happen with any
color). I'm guessing that you've already been through the Kamado website and
forum looking at all the colors. What's in your yard to accent, match and or
complement?
>
> Matthew (or and HDTV)
>
> --
> Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
> You can't win
> You can't break even
> You can't get out of the game





BOB 11-09-2004 10:54 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> I think that it will be the sale configuration:
>
> SS bands
> SS grill
> mosaic cart
> Temperature gauge


Great!

>
> With the following:
>
> Gas option


*I* think you'll be glad that you bought it.
For $15 more, add the regular draft door. Just trust me on this. ;-)

> SS upper cooking bracket


Yes, definitely.

> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)


That does sound high, BUT remember that the $39 is the upgrade from the regular
grill, not the complete price.
I didn't order the upper grill with my #5, decided to use one I bought at
Lowes/HomeDepot/wherever. I recently ordered a Kamado upper grill along with
the meat hanger (and a meat hanger for my #3) I like the fit of the Kamado
grill much better. YMMV of course.

> SS lower drip pan bracket


Definite YES!

> SS meat hanger


I think you would have ordered one eventually. I did.

> Mushikamado SS double cooking grid


Can't comment. They don't make one for anything smaller than the #7, but I
like the idea. I welder friend keeps promising to build me one for my #5, maybe
I should take him some ribs, pulled pork and a brisket...

> SS grill scraper


Yes. I like mine. It fits and scrapes *all* of my Kamado made grills, but
*not* the after market grills.
Monroe has 9,725 (at last count) uses for one. Backscratcher comes to mind.

> As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.


LOL, you've already experienced the stuff. I think you'll like it even better
in your new ceramic.
30 boxes is the minimum pallet (when NOT ordered with your Kamado). Get a group
and really save on shipping. I'm working on the SECOND order coming to Orlando.
..
>
> No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> least!) to open one of these, where do you put your beer////utensils?


Not an option for my #5, so I never considered them.

>
> Now to decide, a #7 or #9...?


OK, you want one of the big guys. Think this way...a #7 (I've cooked 6 of the
"Sam's" butts on my #5) for your big one, then a #3 (or #5?) so you can cook
different things at the same time, at different temperatures. I do realize that
you've already got a yard full of cookers, it's just a suggestion. ;-)

> Then, what tile?


I have the Terra Blue. I'm happy with it. My brother and sister-in-law have
the Cobalt Blue. They're happy with it. Cobalt Blue is the most popular color.
They've run out in the past, causing delays (but that could happen with any
color). I'm guessing that you've already been through the Kamado website and
forum looking at all the colors. What's in your yard to accent, match and or
complement?
>
> Matthew (or and HDTV)
>
> --
> Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
> You can't win
> You can't break even
> You can't get out of the game





BOB 11-09-2004 10:58 PM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> Radar wrote:
>
>>
>> Go with the #9. Nobody ever wished they had a smaller grill.
>>

>
> Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
> have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.
>
> Matthew (leaning towards a #9.... or is that a #7)
>
> --

#7-#9 combo
#7-#3 combo
#7-#1 combo
#7-#5 combo
#7-#5-#3 Combo
I'm very happy with my #1-#3-#5 combo

BOB
be the first on your block with the *up and coming* #11
knows I'm *not* making this easier



Matthew L. Martin 11-09-2004 11:40 PM

BOB wrote:

> Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>
>>I think that it will be the sale configuration:

>
>>With the following:
>>
>>Gas option

>
>
> *I* think you'll be glad that you bought it.
> For $15 more, add the regular draft door. Just trust me on this. ;-)


Yes. You aren't the only one to make that recommendation. Do I need to
buy a firebox, as well?

>>SS upper cooking bracket

>
>
> Yes, definitely.
>
>
>> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
>> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
>> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)

>
>
> That does sound high, BUT remember that the $39 is the upgrade from the regular
> grill, not the complete price.


The complete price is $88. I miss read the table. The $39 is the upgrade
price for a #5 grill.

> I didn't order the upper grill with my #5, decided to use one I bought at
> Lowes/HomeDepot/wherever. I recently ordered a Kamado upper grill along with
> the meat hanger (and a meat hanger for my #3) I like the fit of the Kamado
> grill much better. YMMV of course.


That is also a consideration

>>SS lower drip pan bracket

>
>
> Definite YES!
>
>
>>SS meat hanger

>
>
> I think you would have ordered one eventually. I did.


I think that I'll be hanging ducks in there fairly often.

>
>>SS grill scraper

>
>
> Yes. I like mine. It fits and scrapes *all* of my Kamado made grills, but
> *not* the after market grills.
> Monroe has 9,725 (at last count) uses for one. Backscratcher comes to mind.
>
>
>>As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.

>
>
> LOL, you've already experienced the stuff. I think you'll like it even better
> in your new ceramic.
> 30 boxes is the minimum pallet (when NOT ordered with your Kamado). Get a group
> and really save on shipping. I'm working on the SECOND order coming to Orlando.


I just split a 500# pallet.

>
>
>>Now to decide, a #7 or #9...?

>
>
> OK, you want one of the big guys. Think this way...a #7 (I've cooked 6 of the
> "Sam's" butts on my #5) for your big one, then a #3 (or #5?) so you can cook
> different things at the same time, at different temperatures. I do realize that
> you've already got a yard full of cookers, it's just a suggestion. ;-)


The ECBX2 has been relocated to the lake house. The WSM moves pretty
readily, so I think I have the extra cooker problem handled. I'm looking
to retire the gasser at home, but I plan to keep the identical one at
the lake.

>> Then, what tile?

>
>
> I have the Terra Blue. I'm happy with it. My brother and sister-in-law have
> the Cobalt Blue. They're happy with it. Cobalt Blue is the most popular color.
> They've run out in the past, causing delays (but that could happen with any
> color). I'm guessing that you've already been through the Kamado website and
> forum looking at all the colors. What's in your yard to accent, match and or
> complement?


Yeah, I was just reflecting that there seem to be far too many decisions
to make just to buy a cooker.

Matthew (This is making buying an HDTV system seem simple)

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

BOB 12-09-2004 12:50 AM

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
> BOB wrote:
>
>> Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>>
>>> I think that it will be the sale configuration:

>>
>>> With the following:
>>>
>>> Gas option

>>
>>
>> *I* think you'll be glad that you bought it.
>> For $15 more, add the regular draft door. Just trust me on this. ;-)

>
> Yes. You aren't the only one to make that recommendation. Do I need to
> buy a firebox, as well?


Clarification here...you *will* get the firebox/fire ring even with the gas.
It's the ceramic fire *grate* that you won't get. I don't miss the grate in the
#3 (it came with the gas, so no grate) . In my #5, I removed the grate and only
use it as a heat deflector (when I use a heat deflector) on top of the
lumpsaver+. I've converted the #5 to gas, but only using Kamado's burner and
draft door combo. I had a "flue" added to my lumpsaver+ at a welding shop, cost
me one pork butt, bbqed and pulled.

To directly answer your question, I'd say *NO* but others seem to feel just as
strongly the other way. You can't use the ceramic fire grate during the same
fire in which you use the gas. It involves disassembly and re-assembly.

>
>>> SS upper cooking bracket

>>
>>
>> Yes, definitely.
>>
>>
>>> (I'll see if I can get a 22" grill elsewhere. $89 is a bit rich
>>> given that a 22 1/2" #7 SS main cooking grill is only $39 and I've
>>> found a 21" grill for $13. For that price I'd get two)

>>
>>
>> That does sound high, BUT remember that the $39 is the upgrade from the
>> regular grill, not the complete price.

>
> The complete price is $88. I miss read the table. The $39 is the upgrade
> price for a #5 grill.


It can be confusing.

>
>> I didn't order the upper grill with my #5, decided to use one I bought at
>> Lowes/HomeDepot/wherever. I recently ordered a Kamado upper grill along with
>> the meat hanger (and a meat hanger for my #3) I like the fit of the Kamado
>> grill much better. YMMV of course.

>
> That is also a consideration


Don't know if you caught this (below), but the grill scraper will fit all the
Kamado grills. It didn't fit any of my "other" grills.

>
>>> SS lower drip pan bracket

>>
>>
>> Definite YES!
>>
>>
>>> SS meat hanger

>>
>>
>> I think you would have ordered one eventually. I did.

>
> I think that I'll be hanging ducks in there fairly often.


Charley and Frances have kept me from using mine. I want to hang a duck, too.
I'll only be able to do one duck at a time, but I added 2 extra sliders and
hangers, so 2 chickens will be possible. Only room for one hanger in the #3.

>
>>
>>> SS grill scraper

>>
>>
>> Yes. I like mine. It fits and scrapes *all* of my Kamado made grills, but
>> *not* the after market grills.
>> Monroe has 9,725 (at last count) uses for one. Backscratcher comes to mind.
>>
>>
>>> As much extruded charcoal as they can fit.

>>
>>
>> LOL, you've already experienced the stuff. I think you'll like it even
>> better
>> in your new ceramic.
>> 30 boxes is the minimum pallet (when NOT ordered with your Kamado). Get a
>> group and really save on shipping. I'm working on the SECOND order coming to
>> Orlando.

>
> I just split a 500# pallet.


Wimp! ;-)
My first order was 2000# and this one is already up to about 750#. '-)

>
>>
>>
>>> Now to decide, a #7 or #9...?

>>
>>
>> OK, you want one of the big guys. Think this way...a #7 (I've cooked 6 of
>> the
>> "Sam's" butts on my #5) for your big one, then a #3 (or #5?) so you can cook
>> different things at the same time, at different temperatures. I do realize
>> that you've already got a yard full of cookers, it's just a suggestion. ;-)

>
> The ECBX2 has been relocated to the lake house. The WSM moves pretty
> readily, so I think I have the extra cooker problem handled. I'm looking
> to retire the gasser at home, but I plan to keep the identical one at
> the lake.


A #3 is readily portable. A #1 ever more so. Monroe and I think a #5 is
portable.
;-)

>
>>> Then, what tile?

>>
>>
>> I have the Terra Blue. I'm happy with it. My brother and sister-in-law have
>> the Cobalt Blue. They're happy with it. Cobalt Blue is the most popular
>> color. They've run out in the past, causing delays (but that could happen
>> with any color). I'm guessing that you've already been through the Kamado
>> website and forum looking at all the colors. What's in your yard to accent,
>> match and or complement?

>
> Yeah, I was just reflecting that there seem to be far too many decisions
> to make just to buy a cooker.


That Custom Red sure does look nice, but it isn't included in the sale (and
never will be).

>
> Matthew (This is making buying an HDTV system seem simple)


Butt (pun intended) how long will the HDTV last?

BOB



Kevin S. Wilson 12-09-2004 01:32 AM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.


Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Kevin S. Wilson 12-09-2004 01:32 AM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.


Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Kevin S. Wilson 12-09-2004 01:32 AM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.


Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

Matthew L. Martin 12-09-2004 01:54 AM

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.

>
>
> Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
> I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
> size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?
>


He doesn't. He grills with the #5 a lot, but only for two. The K is on
his deck, the Viking is relatively far from the house. I'm guessing the
Viking get used when the kids come home.

Matthew

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

Monroe, of course... 12-09-2004 02:19 AM

In article >, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

> He doesn't. He grills with the #5 a lot, but only for two. The K is on
> his deck, the Viking is relatively far from the house. I'm guessing the
> Viking get used when the kids come home.


Hmmm...ask him to pin down which one he A.)actually uses more and
B.)enjoys using more. If it's a dead-heat tie and he can't pick a
'favorite son' between these two very top o' the line cooking
utensils-that speaks volumes about the wonderfulness of the K, I'd say.
Especially when you consider the cost of Avg Joe Viking vs a K5.
Seeing what $1000 would buy you in a SS gasser was indeed instrumental
info that steered me towards the K.

monroe(yep the ash scraper is flippin marvy - both useful tool and
dangerous weapon)

Harry Demidavicius 12-09-2004 05:05 AM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:32:45 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>
>>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.

>
>Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
>I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
>size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?


Consecutively.

Harry

Harry Demidavicius 12-09-2004 05:05 AM

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:32:45 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>
>>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.

>
>Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
>I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
>size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?


Consecutively.

Harry

GmagicB 12-09-2004 07:26 AM



>
> It's pretty rare that I require something bigger than my K7. Saw a K9 at
> the cookoff. They are huge. My K7 easily does a whole brisket and 2-3
> butts. Obviously, my opinion on tile would not mean a thing to you, but

do
> think about how it would look in your yard 25 years from now. i.e. avoid
> "fad" colors
> >
> > Matthew (or and HDTV)
> >



Matthew -

Is that a whole brisket and 1-3 butts at one time?

Thanks,
George



GmagicB 12-09-2004 07:26 AM



>
> It's pretty rare that I require something bigger than my K7. Saw a K9 at
> the cookoff. They are huge. My K7 easily does a whole brisket and 2-3
> butts. Obviously, my opinion on tile would not mean a thing to you, but

do
> think about how it would look in your yard 25 years from now. i.e. avoid
> "fad" colors
> >
> > Matthew (or and HDTV)
> >



Matthew -

Is that a whole brisket and 1-3 butts at one time?

Thanks,
George



Dave Bugg 12-09-2004 08:10 AM

GmagicB wrote:

> Is that a whole brisket and 1-3 butts at one time?


Heck, with the upper rack I've done three briskets, four butts, and a couple
of racks of ribs.



Kevin S. Wilson 12-09-2004 09:52 AM

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 04:05:51 GMT, Harry Demidavicius
> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:32:45 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:34:12 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>>
>>>Actually, the fellow who let me take a look at his #5 says he should
>>>have gotten a #1. But he also has a _very_ large Viking gasser.

>>
>>Then I'm guessing he only uses the 5 to grill veggies and other sides.
>>I take my 1 camping, and am often constrained by its relatively small
>>size. How, for instance, do you cook steaks for five people on a #1?

>
>Consecutively.
>

Yabbut that's no fun, with everyone eating in stages instead of eating
together. However, when I cook camp breakfasts, I cook everyone's eggs
to order, one or two orders at a time. By the time I've fed everyone,
I know exactly how the Coleman stove and griddle are operating,
thereby ensuring that my eggs are done just the way I like them. There
are advantages to being the camp cook. That's one of them. Not having
to do dishes is another.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

BOB 12-09-2004 10:59 AM

GmagicB wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It's pretty rare that I require something bigger than my K7. Saw a K9 at
>> the cookoff. They are huge. My K7 easily does a whole brisket and 2-3
>> butts. Obviously, my opinion on tile would not mean a thing to you, but do
>> think about how it would look in your yard 25 years from now. i.e. avoid
>> "fad" colors
>>>
>>> Matthew (or and HDTV)
>>>

>
>
> Matthew -
>
> Is that a whole brisket and 1-3 butts at one time?
>
> Thanks,
> George


I'm not Matthew (and I don't think your quote is either...please check
attributions before you quote), but on my Kamado #5, I have cooked 2 butts (8#
range, each) and a 14# packer cut brisket together. I would bet on a brisket
*and* 3 butts together on a Kamado #7.

BOB



James Emanuel 12-09-2004 07:52 PM


"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:16:23 GMT, "James Emanuel"
> > wrote:
>
> >I would also highly recommend a pizza stone/heat deflector (15" dia),

either
> >Kamado's or otherwise. I also use a 12" square concrete paving stone as

a
> >heat deflector when I am using the pizza stone.

>
> Hmmm. You might want to reconsider that concrete paving stone. I seem
> to recall that concrete--under the right circumstances--can turn into
> shrapnel when heated.


Good warning on the concrete paving stone, though I've been using mine for
about a year with no problems. My opinion, based on 27 years as a
structural engineer, is that it all depends on the aggregate used to make
the concrete. The aggregate used would certainly vary in different
geographic areas and different manufacturers.

Also, when i first used mine, I put it in at low temps for a long time to
thouroughly dry it out. If you find one that doesn't disintegrate, you've
got a really good heat deflector. I consider it essential when using a
pizza stone, and use it at temps up to 550 - 600F. Concrete paver on the
lower bracket, pizza stone on the upper grill.

James Emanuel



Jack Sloan 12-09-2004 10:16 PM


"James Emanuel" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:16:23 GMT, "James Emanuel"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >I would also highly recommend a pizza stone/heat deflector (15" dia),

> either
> > >Kamado's or otherwise. I also use a 12" square concrete paving stone

as
> a
> > >heat deflector when I am using the pizza stone.

> >
> > Hmmm. You might want to reconsider that concrete paving stone. I seem
> > to recall that concrete--under the right circumstances--can turn into
> > shrapnel when heated.

>
> Good warning on the concrete paving stone, though I've been using mine for
> about a year with no problems. My opinion, based on 27 years as a
> structural engineer, is that it all depends on the aggregate used to make
> the concrete. The aggregate used would certainly vary in different
> geographic areas and different manufacturers.
>
> Also, when i first used mine, I put it in at low temps for a long time to
> thouroughly dry it out. If you find one that doesn't disintegrate, you've
> got a really good heat deflector. I consider it essential when using a
> pizza stone, and use it at temps up to 550 - 600F. Concrete paver on the
> lower bracket, pizza stone on the upper grill.
>
> James Emanuel
>

firebrick splits wont explode and are inexpensive.
Jack



Default User 13-09-2004 06:59 PM

Dave Bugg wrote:

> Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>
> > No one mentioned the side tables. Given that it takes two hands (at
> > least!) to open one of these, where do you put your
> > beer////utensils?

>
> Matthew, I have one of those plastic utility tables from Costco that I
> placed next to the Kamado.


I use one of the little round glass/aluminum outdoor tables. It's good
because I can set hot things on it without too much concern.



Brian

JBSummer 17-09-2004 10:53 PM

Picking the tile color was the hardest part for me. Went with cobalt blue
mainly because I had no choice (I got my K off of ebay) but if I had bought
non-ebay, it was a toss up between green or raspberry. But wait, the red is
nice also. And then there's black...

Never wished I had side tables...

JBSummer 17-09-2004 10:53 PM

Picking the tile color was the hardest part for me. Went with cobalt blue
mainly because I had no choice (I got my K off of ebay) but if I had bought
non-ebay, it was a toss up between green or raspberry. But wait, the red is
nice also. And then there's black...

Never wished I had side tables...

JBSummer 17-09-2004 10:56 PM

And if ya absolutely have to have a grate, you can get a charcoal grate for a
Smokey Joe. Works fine.

JBSummer 17-09-2004 10:56 PM

And if ya absolutely have to have a grate, you can get a charcoal grate for a
Smokey Joe. Works fine.


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