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Question about salt for brining
In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey.
Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) and sea salt. Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry other types of salt. Suggestions? |
Question about salt for brining
"Bob" > wrote in message ... > In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey. > Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow > but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > and sea salt. > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > other types of salt. > > Suggestions? Use what you have. Kosher salt dissolves easier. Diamond brand has not additives for anti-caking, table salt may or may not be iodized. Once dissolved in the water, salt is salt. |
Question about salt for brining
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Use what you have. Kosher salt dissolves easier. Diamond brand has not > additives for anti-caking, table salt may or may not be iodized. Once > dissolved in the water, salt is salt. From the Virtual Weber Bullet site... Table salt and kosher salt do not have the same saltiness in a flavor brine when measured by volume--but they do when measured by weight. Table salt weighs about 10 ounces per cup, while kosher salt weighs 5-8 ounces per cup, depending on the brand. If using kosher salt in a brine, you must use more than a cup to achieve the same salt flavor you would get from a cup of table salt. The chart below shows equivalent amounts of table salt and the two most popular brands of kosher salt. Ordinary Table Salt 1 cup Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt 2 cups Morton Kosher Salt 1-1/2 cups Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt weighs about 5 ounces per cup, making it half as strong as table salt. Morton Kosher Salt weighs about 7.7 ounces per cup, making it three-fourths as strong as table salt. For sea salts and other brands of kosher salt, use a kitchen scale to measure 10 ounces of salt. That measure will be equivalent to 1 cup of table salt in terms of its saltiness. |
Question about salt for brining
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Use what you have. Kosher salt dissolves easier. Diamond brand has not > additives for anti-caking, table salt may or may not be iodized. Once > dissolved in the water, salt is salt. From the Virtual Weber Bullet site... Table salt and kosher salt do not have the same saltiness in a flavor brine when measured by volume--but they do when measured by weight. Table salt weighs about 10 ounces per cup, while kosher salt weighs 5-8 ounces per cup, depending on the brand. If using kosher salt in a brine, you must use more than a cup to achieve the same salt flavor you would get from a cup of table salt. The chart below shows equivalent amounts of table salt and the two most popular brands of kosher salt. Ordinary Table Salt 1 cup Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt 2 cups Morton Kosher Salt 1-1/2 cups Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt weighs about 5 ounces per cup, making it half as strong as table salt. Morton Kosher Salt weighs about 7.7 ounces per cup, making it three-fourths as strong as table salt. For sea salts and other brands of kosher salt, use a kitchen scale to measure 10 ounces of salt. That measure will be equivalent to 1 cup of table salt in terms of its saltiness. |
Question about salt for brining
Bob wrote:
> In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey. > Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow > but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > and sea salt. > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > other types of salt. > > Suggestions? Any salt will work. Try a butterball chicken. *******s stole my brine recipe. TFM® |
Question about salt for brining
The last 2 THanksgivings I have brined a turkey in kosher salt, water, brown
sugar, maple syrup and spices. After roasting, deep frying, smoking and countless other methods, I don't think I will ever do a whole Turkey another way again. Superb flavor and tenderness, and no prevalent saltiness. Bob in RSM, CA "Bob" > wrote in message ... > In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey. > Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow > but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > and sea salt. > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > other types of salt. > > Suggestions? |
Question about salt for brining
Bob Hayden wrote:
> The last 2 THanksgivings I have brined a turkey in kosher salt, > water, brown sugar, maple syrup and spices. After roasting, deep > frying, smoking and countless other methods, I don't think I will > ever do a whole Turkey another way again. Superb flavor and > tenderness, and no prevalent saltiness. When I first concocted my brine recipe, I liked food a bit saltier than most folks. I've since learned that it's not so much the amount of salt in the brine, but a combination of time multiplied by the salt factor. Maybe a cup of salt per gallon of water will do ya if you're gonna brine a long time. My original recipe called for an outrageous 3 cups per gallon and a 3 day brine time. That's a bit extreme to my own tastes now. Seems to me now that 3 cups to a gallon should be good for a 2 or 3 hour brine. TFM® |
Question about salt for brining
>When I first concocted my brine recipe, I liked food a bit saltier than most >folks. > >I've since learned that it's not so much the amount of salt in the brine, >but a combination of time multiplied by the salt factor. > >Maybe a cup of salt per gallon of water will do ya if you're gonna brine a >long time. My original recipe called for an outrageous 3 cups per gallon >and a 3 day brine time. > >That's a bit extreme to my own tastes now. > >Seems to me now that 3 cups to a gallon should be good for a 2 or 3 hour >brine. > > >TFM® > I just finished cooking two chickens using your brine recipe. Unfortunately I did not get the results I was hoping for. The birds were VERY juicy, pink in color but not bloody. clear fuids coming from punctures when testing the thigh temp. I put bacon on the skin during cooking except for about the last 30 minutes. I used mesquite wood in the smoker. I cooked at about 350 for two hours and the thigh meat was at 180 degrees when I removed them. I am not sure what it is I do not like. The bacon might be what threw things off but the chickens were not right. I should have just used the brine and not the bacon but I really like crispy skin and saw somewhere that said to put bacon on it. My biggest fear, too salty was not an issue. It was not salty at all, just a hint. I guess I need to try again with brine only. Bob |
Question about salt for brining
>When I first concocted my brine recipe, I liked food a bit saltier than most >folks. > >I've since learned that it's not so much the amount of salt in the brine, >but a combination of time multiplied by the salt factor. > >Maybe a cup of salt per gallon of water will do ya if you're gonna brine a >long time. My original recipe called for an outrageous 3 cups per gallon >and a 3 day brine time. > >That's a bit extreme to my own tastes now. > >Seems to me now that 3 cups to a gallon should be good for a 2 or 3 hour >brine. > > >TFM® > I just finished cooking two chickens using your brine recipe. Unfortunately I did not get the results I was hoping for. The birds were VERY juicy, pink in color but not bloody. clear fuids coming from punctures when testing the thigh temp. I put bacon on the skin during cooking except for about the last 30 minutes. I used mesquite wood in the smoker. I cooked at about 350 for two hours and the thigh meat was at 180 degrees when I removed them. I am not sure what it is I do not like. The bacon might be what threw things off but the chickens were not right. I should have just used the brine and not the bacon but I really like crispy skin and saw somewhere that said to put bacon on it. My biggest fear, too salty was not an issue. It was not salty at all, just a hint. I guess I need to try again with brine only. Bob |
Question about salt for brining
Bob wrote:
>> When I first concocted my brine recipe, I liked food a bit saltier >> than most folks. >> >> I've since learned that it's not so much the amount of salt in the >> brine, but a combination of time multiplied by the salt factor. >> >> Maybe a cup of salt per gallon of water will do ya if you're gonna >> brine a long time. My original recipe called for an outrageous 3 >> cups per gallon and a 3 day brine time. >> >> That's a bit extreme to my own tastes now. >> >> Seems to me now that 3 cups to a gallon should be good for a 2 or 3 >> hour brine. >> >> >> TFM® >> > I just finished cooking two chickens using your brine recipe. > Unfortunately I did not get the results I was hoping for. The birds > were VERY juicy, pink in color but not bloody. clear fuids coming from > punctures when testing the thigh temp. > > I put bacon on the skin during cooking except for about the last 30 > minutes. I used mesquite wood in the smoker. I cooked at about 350 for > two hours and the thigh meat was at 180 degrees when I removed them. > > I am not sure what it is I do not like. The bacon might be what threw > things off but the chickens were not right. I should have just used > the brine and not the bacon but I really like crispy skin and saw > somewhere that said to put bacon on it. > > My biggest fear, too salty was not an issue. It was not salty at all, > just a hint. > > > I guess I need to try again with brine only. > > Bob Just my not so humble opinion, but mesquite and chicken DO NOT mix. Mesquite's a grilling wood. I can appreciate what it would do to a steak for about 8 minutes. Smoking anything is just out of the question. Way too overpowering. TFM® |
Question about salt for brining
>Just my not so humble opinion, but mesquite and chicken DO NOT mix. > >Mesquite's a grilling wood. I can appreciate what it would do to a steak >for about 8 minutes. Smoking anything is just out of the question. Way too >overpowering. > >TFM® > Maybe that is what is wrong. I thought it was milder than hicory so I used it. What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. That may make all the difference in the world. Bob |
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>Just my not so humble opinion, but mesquite and chicken DO NOT mix. > >Mesquite's a grilling wood. I can appreciate what it would do to a steak >for about 8 minutes. Smoking anything is just out of the question. Way too >overpowering. > >TFM® > Maybe that is what is wrong. I thought it was milder than hicory so I used it. What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. That may make all the difference in the world. Bob |
Question about salt for brining
Bob wrote:
>> Just my not so humble opinion, but mesquite and chicken DO NOT mix. >> >> Mesquite's a grilling wood. I can appreciate what it would do to a >> steak for about 8 minutes. Smoking anything is just out of the >> question. Way too overpowering. >> >> TFM® >> > > Maybe that is what is wrong. I thought it was milder than hicory so I > used it. What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. That > may make all the difference in the world. > > Bob White oak, red oak, ash, cherry, dogwood or any combination of the above. Easy on the oaks as they're strong. Cherry and Ash are mild. Dogwood just plain smells good when you're cooking. Love the ash, TFM® |
Question about salt for brining
Bob wrote:
>> Just my not so humble opinion, but mesquite and chicken DO NOT mix. >> >> Mesquite's a grilling wood. I can appreciate what it would do to a >> steak for about 8 minutes. Smoking anything is just out of the >> question. Way too overpowering. >> >> TFM® >> > > Maybe that is what is wrong. I thought it was milder than hicory so I > used it. What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. That > may make all the difference in the world. > > Bob White oak, red oak, ash, cherry, dogwood or any combination of the above. Easy on the oaks as they're strong. Cherry and Ash are mild. Dogwood just plain smells good when you're cooking. Love the ash, TFM® |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 23:26:42 -0500, Bob > wrote:
>What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. Fruitwood (cherry, apple, peach, pear, etc.) I've also used crabapple and lilac with good results. -- Kevin S. Wilson Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho "Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile." --Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology |
Question about salt for brining
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 23:26:42 -0500, Bob > wrote:
>What would be a good chicken (and Turkey) wood to use. Fruitwood (cherry, apple, peach, pear, etc.) I've also used crabapple and lilac with good results. -- Kevin S. Wilson Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho "Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile." --Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology |
Question about salt for brining
Kosher salt for brining is a waste of money. Don't use iodized salt. Use
the Kosher salt on the table. Kent Bob wrote: > > In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey. > Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow > but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > and sea salt. > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > other types of salt. > > Suggestions? |
Kosher salt for brining is a waste of money. Don't use iodized salt. Use
the Kosher salt on the table. Kent Bob wrote: > > In another post I asked about how salty brining would make a turkey. > Someone suggested sacrificing a chicken. I plan on doing this tomorrow > but went to the store to get kosher salt for the brine. All they had > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > and sea salt. > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > other types of salt. > > Suggestions? |
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"Kent H." > wrote in message >...
> Kosher salt for brining is a waste of money. Don't use iodized salt. Use > the Kosher salt on the table. > Kent All they had > > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > > and sea salt. > > > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > > other types of salt. > > > > Suggestions? I always use canning/pickling salt for my brines. It dissolves fast in cold water, and should not have any chemical additives You can usually find it with the other salt. If not, it should be with the canning supplies. If your grocery store does not have it, check your local hometown hardware store. Since this is the height of pickling season, it should not be hard to find. I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned homemade ice cream. I have never had anything brined come out salty unless it remains in the brine for more than 72 hours. Let me know how your's comes out. Jon |
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"Kent H." > wrote in message >...
> Kosher salt for brining is a waste of money. Don't use iodized salt. Use > the Kosher salt on the table. > Kent All they had > > was regular table salt, tender quick (already know this is not right) > > and sea salt. > > > > Will the sea salt work? None of the grocery stores in my area carry > > other types of salt. > > > > Suggestions? I always use canning/pickling salt for my brines. It dissolves fast in cold water, and should not have any chemical additives You can usually find it with the other salt. If not, it should be with the canning supplies. If your grocery store does not have it, check your local hometown hardware store. Since this is the height of pickling season, it should not be hard to find. I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned homemade ice cream. I have never had anything brined come out salty unless it remains in the brine for more than 72 hours. Let me know how your's comes out. Jon |
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Jon Choate wrote:
> I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is > also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because > there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned > homemade ice cream. My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a problem for me. I wouldn't can or pickle in sea salt, with the extended exposure, though. Cheers, Dana |
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Jon Choate wrote:
> I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is > also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because > there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned > homemade ice cream. My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a problem for me. I wouldn't can or pickle in sea salt, with the extended exposure, though. Cheers, Dana |
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"Dana Myers" > wrote in message
m... > Jon Choate wrote: > > > I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > > pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is > > also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because > > there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned > > homemade ice cream. > > My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. > Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really > bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a > problem for me. I wouldn't can or pickle in sea > salt, with the extended exposure, though. > > Cheers, > Dana Dana, You can use any kind of salt for brining, though non-iodized salt is my preference (Kosher, Sea or Pickling). You just have to make allowances for how much "salt" is in the salt when you're mixing your brine and/or calculating how long to leave your food in it. Salt is NaCl. The various types you can buy differ by source/additives/consistency, etc. Jack Curry |
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"Dana Myers" > wrote in message
m... > Jon Choate wrote: > > > I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > > pepper mill for those who insist on having it on the table. There is > > also a box of Rock Salt that I keep beside the I/C freezer, because > > there's nothing better on a hot GA afternoon that ole-fashioned > > homemade ice cream. > > My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. > Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really > bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a > problem for me. I wouldn't can or pickle in sea > salt, with the extended exposure, though. > > Cheers, > Dana Dana, You can use any kind of salt for brining, though non-iodized salt is my preference (Kosher, Sea or Pickling). You just have to make allowances for how much "salt" is in the salt when you're mixing your brine and/or calculating how long to leave your food in it. Salt is NaCl. The various types you can buy differ by source/additives/consistency, etc. Jack Curry |
Question about salt for brining
Jack Curry wrote:
> Dana, > > You can use any kind of salt for brining, though non-iodized salt is my > preference (Kosher, Sea or Pickling). I have the same preference. In fact, I generally avoid iodized salt in my own cooking but I'm sure I get enough iodized salt elsewhere to avoid goiter. Thanks - Dana |
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Question about salt for brining
"Jack Curry" <Jack-Curry deletethis @cfl.rr.com> wrote in message >...
> "Dana Myers" > wrote in message > m... > > Jon Choate wrote: > > > > > I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > > > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > > > > My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. > > Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really > > bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a > You can use any kind of salt for brining, though non-iodized salt is my > preference (Kosher, Sea or Pickling). You just have to make allowances for > how much "salt" is in the salt when you're mixing your brine and/or > calculating how long to leave your food in it. Salt is NaCl. The various About the only salt I would not use is iodized. Using the C/p usually has to do with a combination of ease and habit. I find it mixes best in cold to lukewarm water. It is usually the only non-liquid item in my brines. The habit part has to do with a little ole lady we grew up near. Our Scoutmasters wife to be exact. She always kept canning salt in abundance, and used it in everything. Especially deer meat. She had a recipe she used when she put up fresh deer meat that made it the best tasting in the world. Unfortunately, she has not shared...yet...and all I know is she would salt the meat, let it sit overnight, then put it in a gallon freezer bag, cover it with water, and freeze it. She would usually do roasts in this manner for us, which we would carry home and keep in the freezer. We would pull them out before a camping trip, let it thaw, cut it into steaks, and as we were camping we would grill it over an open fire. Nothing else, just those steaks. With the smoke from the fire and mild saltiness, it had a flavor similar to country ham, but with a texture of steak. I have tried repeating this, since I now live over 150 miles away, but have not had any luck yet. |
"Jack Curry" <Jack-Curry deletethis @cfl.rr.com> wrote in message >...
> "Dana Myers" > wrote in message > m... > > Jon Choate wrote: > > > > > I usually keep 4 kinds of salt in my kitchen. I keep c/p salt for > > > brines and cold marinades, kosher salt for cooking, and sea salt in a > > > > My pantry is a little simpler - I use two types of salt. > > Coarse and fine sea salt. I'm curious if it's really > > bad to use sea salt for brining - it's never been a > You can use any kind of salt for brining, though non-iodized salt is my > preference (Kosher, Sea or Pickling). You just have to make allowances for > how much "salt" is in the salt when you're mixing your brine and/or > calculating how long to leave your food in it. Salt is NaCl. The various About the only salt I would not use is iodized. Using the C/p usually has to do with a combination of ease and habit. I find it mixes best in cold to lukewarm water. It is usually the only non-liquid item in my brines. The habit part has to do with a little ole lady we grew up near. Our Scoutmasters wife to be exact. She always kept canning salt in abundance, and used it in everything. Especially deer meat. She had a recipe she used when she put up fresh deer meat that made it the best tasting in the world. Unfortunately, she has not shared...yet...and all I know is she would salt the meat, let it sit overnight, then put it in a gallon freezer bag, cover it with water, and freeze it. She would usually do roasts in this manner for us, which we would carry home and keep in the freezer. We would pull them out before a camping trip, let it thaw, cut it into steaks, and as we were camping we would grill it over an open fire. Nothing else, just those steaks. With the smoke from the fire and mild saltiness, it had a flavor similar to country ham, but with a texture of steak. I have tried repeating this, since I now live over 150 miles away, but have not had any luck yet. |
Question about salt for brining
Jon Choate wrote:
> About the only salt I would not use is iodized. Using the C/p usually > has to do with a combination of ease and habit. I find it mixes best > in cold to lukewarm water. It is usually the only non-liquid item in > my brines. I too avoid iodized, and I don't brine often enough to use up more expensive sea salt too rapidly. If I did, I'd get a green box of C/P salt. Come to think of it, I'll grab one anyway for this reason. > The habit part has to do with a little ole lady we grew up near. Our > Scoutmasters wife to be exact. She always kept canning salt in > abundance, and used it in everything. Especially deer meat. She had a > recipe she used when she put up fresh deer meat that made it the best > tasting in the world. [...] > With the smoke from the > fire and mild saltiness, it had a flavor similar to country ham, but > with a texture of steak. I have tried repeating this, since I now live > over 150 miles away, but have not had any luck yet. You're making me want to experiment with this now ;-) Thanks - Dana |
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