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I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.

Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to
came and burn it in the firepit?

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> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
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> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to
> came and burn it in the firepit?


Crabapple work just fine for a light smoke.

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> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>
> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
> and burn it in the firepit?


Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and a
pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?


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On 13-Sep-2008, "D. Winsor" > wrote:

> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
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> > I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
> >
> > Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
> > and burn it in the firepit?

>
> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and a
> pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?


If you're worried about or have experienced bad taste from chain oil, simply switch
to cooking oil for your chainsaw. The saw isn't going to care.
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> On 13-Sep-2008, "D. Winsor" > wrote:
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>> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>>>
>>> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
>>> and burn it in the firepit?

>> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and a
>> pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
>> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
>> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
>> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?

>
> If you're worried about or have experienced bad taste from chain oil, simply switch
> to cooking oil for your chainsaw. The saw isn't going to care.


Well, never thought of that but yes we used our chainsaws... oh well.
Got some nice chunks, not I just have to let it season

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> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
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>> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>>
>> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
>> and burn it in the firepit?

>
> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and
> a pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?
>


Way too picky. Just don't use the chips.

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> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to
> came and burn it in the firepit?
>


It works just fine. The bark's pretty thin, as I recall, but the trunk
splits pretty hard because of all the branches.
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> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
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> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to
> came and burn it in the firepit?


Yep, I have crabapple trees. It works fine. As Wertz says, a mild smoke.




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> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and
> a pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?
>


Never noticed any oil residue. If you look at the amount of oil used, the
amount of sawdust, it is only a minute amount that can possibly be left on
the wood.


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> Never noticed any oil residue. If you look at the amount of oil used, the
> amount of sawdust, it is only a minute amount that can possibly be left on
> the wood.


When I cut firewood or smoking wood, I never gave any thought to the bar
oil I used. I never used the sawdust, using only the branches and logs.
Considering the minuscule amount of bar oil used, then dividing that
amount over the cut ends and sawdust would leave far less on the wood
itself than I'd ever notice. I wonder if this has any basis to be
called an urban legend or submitted to the Mythbuster TV show for
evaluation.

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> When I cut firewood or smoking wood, I never gave any thought to the bar
> oil I used. I never used the sawdust, using only the branches and logs.
> Considering the minuscule amount of bar oil used, then dividing that
> amount over the cut ends and sawdust would leave far less on the wood
> itself than I'd ever notice. I wonder if this has any basis to be called
> an urban legend or submitted to the Mythbuster TV show for evaluation.
>
> --
> Nonny


I've used the sawdust too. The oil I've been using is vegetable based.
Probably the same as cooking oil that someone suggested he use.


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>> When I cut firewood or smoking wood, I never gave any thought to the bar
>> oil I used. I never used the sawdust, using only the branches and logs.
>> Considering the minuscule amount of bar oil used, then dividing that
>> amount over the cut ends and sawdust would leave far less on the wood
>> itself than I'd ever notice. I wonder if this has any basis to be called
>> an urban legend or submitted to the Mythbuster TV show for evaluation.
>>
>> --
>> Nonny

>
> I've used the sawdust too. The oil I've been using is vegetable based.
> Probably the same as cooking oil that someone suggested he use.
>
>

Makes sense to go with cooking oil if it's handy. However, though I've
never used sawdust, I wonder if even that would have enough mineral oil
in it to affect the flavor. I just don't know, but think it'd be worth
a test.

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"D. Winsor" > wrote in message
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> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
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>> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>>
>> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
>> and burn it in the firepit?

>
> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and
> a pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?
>

if you are really worried about the miniscule amount of bar oil on the wood
save the chain and throw some veggie oil in that front tank instead!! it
really isn't a worry in my opinion anyway
buzz


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> "D. Winsor" > wrote in message
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>> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>>>
>>> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to came
>>> and burn it in the firepit?

>> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple and
>> a pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because of the
>> chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed out and
>> standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the chunks.
>> Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?
>>

> if you are really worried about the miniscule amount of bar oil on the wood
> save the chain and throw some veggie oil in that front tank instead!! it
> really isn't a worry in my opinion anyway
> buzz
>
>


Pretty much the conclusion I came to as well
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> "D. Winsor" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm helping a friend take down a crab apple tree today.
>>>
>>> Anyone used that for smoking? Any good? Or should I just take it to
>>> came and burn it in the firepit?

>>
>> Are you using a chainsaw to chunk it up? I recently took down a maple
>> and a pin cherry, but thought I should cut them with a hand saw because
>> of the chain oil ruining the wood for smoking. I've got them both limbed
>> out and standing to dry a bit so they'll split easier after I saw up the
>> chunks. Are my thoughts on the chain oil wrong or too picky?
>>

> if you are really worried about the miniscule amount of bar oil on the
> wood save the chain and throw some veggie oil in that front tank instead!!
> it really isn't a worry in my opinion anyway
> buzz



People keep saying this, but veggie oil doesn't have the tack that bar &
chain oil has. IOW it'll sling off slicker than snot on a doorknob and
leave your chain dry. **** on the chain, you can woller out the bar. I'd
rather not have to buy either, but the chain is cheaper.

Back when I was a motorcycle dude I used bar & chain oil on my bike chain
just for the anti-sling properties.
And yes, I have actually chainsawed into hickory logs just to get a good
pile of chainsaw chips to use for smoking on the grill.

You got chains or belts Buzz? I hear you should use margarine on the belts.
<G>


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> You got chains or belts Buzz? I hear you should use margarine on the
> belts. <G>
>
>
> TFM®


Chains, belts? Shafts are the only way to go man (no snide comments
now....) ;-)

AND if you insist on using links or strands then go with BUTTER!
Margarine ain't nothing but plastic with one molecule chemically
changed. <shudder>

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>> You got chains or belts Buzz? I hear you should use margarine on the
>> belts. <G>
>>
>>
>> TFM®

>
> Chains, belts? Shafts are the only way to go man (no snide comments
> now....) ;-)
>
> AND if you insist on using links or strands then go with BUTTER! Margarine
> ain't nothing but plastic with one molecule chemically changed. <shudder>



You keep forgetting sling resistance. Bar & chain oil is extremely tacky
(in a good way). It resists being slung from the chain at high temps and
high rpm's.

Now maybe if you had a good wench on the back of the bike packing a pound of
butter, and she was willing to lube the chain while in motion, you could
probably go about a hunnert miles without drying out your chain.


I had a shaft drive bike once. Nighthawk 550. I loved it. It didn't have
the problems of the ass climbing up on acceleration and dropping on
deceleration like the first shaft drive I ever rode. (Yamaha XS 1100
Special)

The 1100 would do 60 easily in first gear though. I can't remember the
vintage, but 1980 something comes to mind. I was 16 and a half years old
when I rode that beast.


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>
> "2fatbbq" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> if you are really worried about the miniscule amount of bar oil on the
>> wood save the chain and throw some veggie oil in that front tank
>> instead!! it really isn't a worry in my opinion anyway
>> buzz

>
>
> People keep saying this, but veggie oil doesn't have the tack that bar &
> chain oil has. IOW it'll sling off slicker than snot on a doorknob and
> leave your chain dry. **** on the chain, you can woller out the bar. I'd
> rather not have to buy either, but the chain is cheaper.
>
> Back when I was a motorcycle dude I used bar & chain oil on my bike chain
> just for the anti-sling properties.
> And yes, I have actually chainsawed into hickory logs just to get a good
> pile of chainsaw chips to use for smoking on the grill.
>
> You got chains or belts Buzz? I hear you should use margarine on the
> belts. <G>
>
>


save the margarine for the ribs! butter for the butts---and belts on the
bike rule 'till about 100K miles and replacement time. And you are totally
right on the bar oil thing methinks
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TFM® wrote:

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> Now maybe if you had a good wench on the back of the bike packing a
> pound of butter, and she was willing to lube the chain while in motion,
> you could probably go about a hunnert miles without drying out your chain.
>

ROTFLMAO at the mental images that brings to mind!

I was weened on a 750 Trident, chainer. Wish I still had the SOB!

>
> I had a shaft drive bike once. Nighthawk 550. I loved it. It didn't
> have the problems of the ass climbing up on acceleration and dropping on
> deceleration like the first shaft drive I ever rode. (Yamaha XS 1100
> Special)
>
> The 1100 would do 60 easily in first gear though. I can't remember the
> vintage, but 1980 something comes to mind. I was 16 and a half years
> old when I rode that beast.
>
>
> TFM®
>
>

Then I moved on to a 750 Yamaha XV750 Special. Similar to this but
different.... < Shrug>
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-173271964.htm

Then later, I got a '97 1100 XV Special, put a BAK and exhaust on it.
Man would that sucker run .... (Have me tell ya about hitting the flying
turkey on the SOB sometime!)

Light bar, chrome side covers, bags, cobra seat/sissy bar, yada yada
yaha.... ;-) Man I miss that bike.

Actual pic of my old bike:
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL413.../108104296.jpg

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> TFM® wrote:
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>> Now maybe if you had a good wench on the back of the bike packing a pound
>> of butter, and she was willing to lube the chain while in motion, you
>> could probably go about a hunnert miles without drying out your chain.
>>

> ROTFLMAO at the mental images that brings to mind!
>
> I was weened on a 750 Trident, chainer. Wish I still had the SOB!
>
>>
>> I had a shaft drive bike once. Nighthawk 550. I loved it. It didn't
>> have the problems of the ass climbing up on acceleration and dropping on
>> deceleration like the first shaft drive I ever rode. (Yamaha XS 1100
>> Special)
>>
>> The 1100 would do 60 easily in first gear though. I can't remember the
>> vintage, but 1980 something comes to mind. I was 16 and a half years old
>> when I rode that beast.
>>
>>
>> TFM®
>>
>>

> Then I moved on to a 750 Yamaha XV750 Special. Similar to this but
> different.... < Shrug>
> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-173271964.htm
>
> Then later, I got a '97 1100 XV Special, put a BAK and exhaust on it. Man
> would that sucker run .... (Have me tell ya about hitting the flying
> turkey on the SOB sometime!)
>
> Light bar, chrome side covers, bags, cobra seat/sissy bar, yada yada
> yaha.... ;-) Man I miss that bike.
>
> Actual pic of my old bike:
> http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL413.../108104296.jpg
>
> --
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That's cute.

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MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due to
Ike? lol

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>> TFM®

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> MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due to
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**** going fast on 2 wheels, I have more horses in my truck than I can
handle.
I want a 22" WSM now. I must be getting old.
http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/22wsm.html#pricing

I swear Rudy Sycamore, I'll dream about that sumbitch tonight.


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> **** going fast on 2 wheels, I have more horses in my truck than I can
> handle.
> I want a 22" WSM now. I must be getting old.
> http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/22wsm.html#pricing
>
> I swear Rudy Sycamore, I'll dream about that sumbitch tonight.
>
>
> TFM®


well, honestly on that road I didn't consider 60 fast given the SL was
55. but whatever <shrug>

five hundred bucks?!? NFW! I ain't loosin' any sleep over it!

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>> TFM®

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> MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due to
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Dude, I'm slow. We haven't even had a breeze all summer. So much for the
hurricanes.

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>>> That's cute.
>>>
>>> TFM®

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>> MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due
>> to Ike? lol

>
>
> Dude, I'm slow. We haven't even had a breeze all summer. So much for
> the hurricanes.
>
> TFM®


I wouldn't say that too loud! ;-)


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> > "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
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> >>> That's cute.
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> >>> TFM®
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> >>
> >> MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due
> >> to Ike? lol

> >
> >
> > Dude, I'm slow. We haven't even had a breeze all summer. So much for
> > the hurricanes.
> >
> > TFM®

>
> I wouldn't say that too loud! ;-)


Despite all the hurricane activity in Florida, Tampa Bay hasn't been hit in over
85 years.(knock on wood).

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>> TFM® wrote:
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>> >
>> > "Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
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>> >>> That's cute.
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>> >>> TFM®
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>> >>
>> >> MAN, that's an oldie. Things must be slow in arriving down there due
>> >> to Ike? lol
>> >
>> >
>> > Dude, I'm slow. We haven't even had a breeze all summer. So much for
>> > the hurricanes.
>> >
>> > TFM®

>>
>> I wouldn't say that too loud! ;-)

>
> Despite all the hurricane activity in Florida, Tampa Bay hasn't been hit
> in over
> 85 years.(knock on wood).
>


You better "knock on wood"! '-)

Isn't that what N. O. La. said a couple of years ago. And we still have to
listen to 'em cry about "nobody" "fixing" it for them. :>(

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