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Suburbs to a Downtown Condo
We have recently moved from the suburbs, where I used my Kamado quite
a bit, to a downtown condo. The new building provides 2 GE Monogram gas grills out by the pool; one of them has a rotisserie. The grills are plumbed into the natural gas supply (no tanks to run out!) and have a drawer and burner for wood chips. Obviously, low and slow isn't going to be same; I'll have to come up with work-arounds (eg, start the butt/brisket outside with smoke for a couple of hours and then finish it in the oven at home). But, I might as well try and make the best of it with the roto. GE's website has some approximate grilling times, but no hints at all on setting the roto burner (infrared) or the cooking time to expect for a chicken, turkey, or leg of lamb. They do claim that the 36" grill will accommodate a 20 lb turkey (it's mainly an issue of vertical clearance). So, does any one have any suggestions for using the roto on this grill? BTW, the Kamado was a better grill than the gasser. Not only would it get hotter, but it was unaffected by the weather. The stainless cover on the gas grill doesn't hold heat like the ceramic, especially when the seabreeze is blowing through the holes for the roto skewer. Assuming that you can get the GE lit (the ignitors aren't too reliable) cooking on it is easy - set the burners on high because that's what you need. |
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On Dec 17, 8:47 pm, Louis Cohen > wrote:
> We have recently moved from the suburbs, where I used my Kamado quite > a bit, to a downtown condo. The new building provides 2 GE Monogram > gas grills out by the pool; one of them has a rotisserie. The grills > are plumbed into the natural gas supply (no tanks to run out!) and > have a drawer and burner for wood chips. > > Obviously, low and slow isn't going to be same; I'll have to come up > with work-arounds (eg, start the butt/brisket outside with smoke for a > couple of hours and then finish it in the oven at home). > > But, I might as well try and make the best of it with the roto. GE's > website has some approximate grilling times, but no hints at all on > setting the roto burner (infrared) or the cooking time to expect for a > chicken, turkey, or leg of lamb. They do claim that the 36" grill > will accommodate a 20 lb turkey (it's mainly an issue of vertical > clearance). > > So, does any one have any suggestions for using the roto on this > grill? > > BTW, the Kamado was a better grill than the gasser. Not only would it > get hotter, but it was unaffected by the weather. The stainless cover > on the gas grill doesn't hold heat like the ceramic, especially when > the seabreeze is blowing through the holes for the roto skewer. > > Assuming that you can get the GE lit (the ignitors aren't too > reliable) cooking on it is easy - set the burners on high because > that's what you need. I can't believe you are without a K. With all the good stuff you cooked on it, how did you EVER let it go?? We feel blessed tht the K we got, made in Indonesia, is in good shape, one or 2 tiles DH glued back on, but everything else ok. What a mess with Kamado now. I don't feel comfortable telling anyone about them. So sad, such a good product. Our kids are already fighting about who gets it when we are gone. Our son said it is the first guy to get here with a Pickup and strong friends!! We warned them not to even think of messing with it whilst we are still here and can lift the lid!!(They have been merciless since we retired!! LOL) Hope you can get some good Q from the grills by the pool. I'm sure you will find a way!!!! Best wishes, Nan Zitney(nanzi on the K forum) |
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Olde Hippee wrote:
> We feel blessed tht the K we got, made in Indonesia, is in good shape, > one or 2 tiles DH glued back on, but everything else ok. What a mess > with Kamado now. I don't feel comfortable telling anyone about them. > So sad, such a good product. I'm the same. My K has been great, with no problems whatsoever. But Richard's Kamado company is not one I would ever recommend to anyone any longer. At my most generous, I would describe the company's performance as being shoddy with poor quality control, horrid customer service, and extremely trying delivery schedules. A less generous assessment of the company's front man would include one who is a scammer, con person, deadbeat, and ethically challenged. -- Dave |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote: > Olde Hippee wrote: > > > We feel blessed tht the K we got, made in Indonesia, is in good shape, > > one or 2 tiles DH glued back on, but everything else ok. What a mess > > with Kamado now. I don't feel comfortable telling anyone about them. > > So sad, such a good product. > > I'm the same. My K has been great, with no problems whatsoever. But > Richard's Kamado company is not one I would ever recommend to anyone any > longer. At my most generous, I would describe the company's performance as > being shoddy with poor quality control, horrid customer service, and > extremely trying delivery schedules. A less generous assessment of the > company's front man would include one who is a scammer, con person, > deadbeat, and ethically challenged. Well ain't it old home day! My K5 was made in Indo too-I attribute the lack of problems I have had to that-especially since the "LifeTime Guarantee" ain't worth the paper it's written on (at least without a lawyer and a gun). Seems like the Mexican-made K's were increasingly problematic-gee-what does it say about a company when they hafta dead-of-night pack it up out of MEXICO??!??!? Now, K is apparently back in Indo--next to the competitor who's taking the ball and running with it. If,heaven forbid,I ever have to replace my K-I think I'll roll the extra pennies for the Komodo. Their forum is more fun too! It's sad to see a formerly great company hit the skids so hard. monroe(dub-scammed but lucky so far-it was the best there was at the time I bought it) |
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On Dec 19, 6:32 am, Olde Hippee > wrote:
> On Dec 17, 8:47 pm, Louis Cohen > wrote: > > > > > We have recently moved from the suburbs, where I used my Kamado quite > > a bit, to a downtown condo. The new building provides 2 GE Monogram > > gas grills out by the pool; one of them has a rotisserie. The grills > > are plumbed into the natural gas supply (no tanks to run out!) and > > have a drawer and burner for wood chips. > > > Obviously, low and slow isn't going to be same; I'll have to come up > > with work-arounds (eg, start the butt/brisket outside with smoke for a > > couple of hours and then finish it in the oven at home). > > > But, I might as well try and make the best of it with the roto. GE's > > website has some approximate grilling times, but no hints at all on > > setting the roto burner (infrared) or the cooking time to expect for a > > chicken, turkey, or leg of lamb. They do claim that the 36" grill > > will accommodate a 20 lb turkey (it's mainly an issue of vertical > > clearance). > > > So, does any one have any suggestions for using the roto on this > > grill? > > > BTW, the Kamado was a better grill than the gasser. Not only would it > > get hotter, but it was unaffected by the weather. The stainless cover > > on the gas grill doesn't hold heat like the ceramic, especially when > > the seabreeze is blowing through the holes for the roto skewer. > > > Assuming that you can get the GE lit (the ignitors aren't too > > reliable) cooking on it is easy - set the burners on high because > > that's what you need. > > I can't believe you are without a K. With all the good stuff you > cooked on it, how did you EVER let it go?? Many people ask me that, but i think I have work-arounds for most stuff. Roasts and bread I'll make in the regular oven with some thick pizza stones. Grill on the gas grill, at least weather permitting. Low and slow is the main challenge. I'll try indirect on the grill with wood chips for a couple of hours, and then finish in the oven. Or use the grill roto, or a small indoor one. > We feel blessed tht the K we got, made in Indonesia, is in good shape, > one or 2 tiles DH glued back on, but everything else ok. What a mess > with Kamado now. I don't feel comfortable telling anyone about them. > So sad, such a good product. > Our kids are already fighting about who gets it when we are gone. Our > son said it is the first guy to get here with a Pickup and strong > friends!! We warned them not to even think of messing with it whilst > we are still here and can lift the lid!!(They have been merciless > since we retired!! LOL) > Hope you can get some good Q from the grills by the pool. I'm sure you > will find a way!!!! > Best wishes, Nan Zitney(nanzi on the K forum) |
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On Dec 19, 10:28 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:47:25 -0800 (PST), Louis Cohen wrote: > > We have recently moved from the suburbs, where I used my Kamado quite > > a bit, to a downtown condo. > > Now why did you go an do something like that? > > > especially when > > the seabreeze is blowing through the holes for the roto skewer. > > Sea breeze in Boulder Colorado? Where did you get Colorado? > > I'm just trying to figure out where you're at now. Downtown San Diego, between the Amtrak station and the cruise ship terminal. SO maybe the > condo assoc doesn't allow them on the balcony, but is it not > possible to get some wheels for your K and pull it out to an > acceptable spot when the need arises? Not unless I hauled out to a park or something. > > I'm afraid you won't get anything too acceptable off the gas > grills. Especially not after using a K. > > -sw |
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On Dec 20, 10:21*pm, Louis Cohen > wrote:
Nice to see you around Louis. Happy holidays to you and yours. |
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On Dec 21, 1:23 am, Louis Cohen > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 10:28 am, Sqwertz > wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:47:25 -0800 (PST), Louis Cohen wrote: > > > We have recently moved from the suburbs, where I used my Kamado quite > > > a bit, to a downtown condo. > > > Now why did you go an do something like that? > > > > especially when > > > the seabreeze is blowing through the holes for the roto skewer. > > > Sea breeze in Boulder Colorado? > > Where did you get Colorado? > > > > > I'm just trying to figure out where you're at now. > > Downtown San Diego, between the Amtrak station and the cruise ship > terminal. > > SO maybe the > > > condo assoc doesn't allow them on the balcony, but is it not > > possible to get some wheels for your K and pull it out to an > > acceptable spot when the need arises? > > Not unless I hauled out to a park or something. > > > > > I'm afraid you won't get anything too acceptable off the gas > > grills. Especially not after using a K. > > > -sw It sounds like you have a good plan for great Q. Very Best wishes for the holidays, and let us know how the low and slow cooking goes. Great area in San Diego. Saw it when our son was stationed there. How cool to watch the big boats coming and going!! Nan |
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