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Alert! Terrorists bake explosive cakes ! ! !
They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up !
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(Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 3 Oct
2004 19:43:47 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash (Brian Raab) reported: >They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > BWAHAHAHAHAH! That's funny! -- Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) <davidac AT jdc DOT org DOT il> ~*~*~*~*~*~ "What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate." --Katharine Hepburn (May 12, 1907 - June 29, 2003) ~*~*~*~*~*~ Links to my published poetry - http://davidachazan.homestead.com/ ~*~*~*~*~*~ |
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(Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 4 Oct
2004 02:01:15 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash (Roy Basan) reported: (Brian Raab) wrote in message . com>... >> They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! >> >> Alert ! > >Hmmnn..... >It is not a farfetched idea. Any extremely evil and but very creative >person can possibly do that . You have GOT to be kidding! The idiot said "bake cakes with explosives". Bake any explosive in an oven and I'm sure it will blow up before you can stick your toothpick in to check it. (Idiots!) -- Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) <davidac AT jdc DOT org DOT il> ~*~*~*~*~*~ "What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate." --Katharine Hepburn (May 12, 1907 - June 29, 2003) ~*~*~*~*~*~ Links to my published poetry - http://davidachazan.homestead.com/ ~*~*~*~*~*~ |
"Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady" > wrote in message ... > (Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 3 Oct > 2004 19:43:47 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash > (Brian Raab) reported: > > >They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > > > BWAHAHAHAHAH! > > That's funny! > > This little twerp has posted stupid messages on other groups. Probably a spotty adolescent. Graham |
"Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady" > wrote in message ... > (Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 3 Oct > 2004 19:43:47 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash > (Brian Raab) reported: > > >They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > > > BWAHAHAHAHAH! > > That's funny! > > This little twerp has posted stupid messages on other groups. Probably a spotty adolescent. Graham |
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady wrote:
> >> They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > >> > >> Alert ! > > > >Hmmnn..... > >It is not a farfetched idea. Any extremely evil and but very creative > >person can possibly do that . > > You have GOT to be kidding! The idiot said "bake cakes with > explosives". Bake any explosive in an oven and I'm sure it will blow > up before you can stick your toothpick in to check it. > > (Idiots!) > -- > Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) Not so, really. Most commonly used high explosives are extremely INsensitive to heat and friction initiation. That's why they require a primer or detonator to set them off. GIs (probably of most countries) have frequently used chunks of C4 and other explosives as cooking fuel, as they simply burn, when lit with a match. I would be more concerned from a chemistry basis, with changes to the explosive compound in the baking environment (moisture, pH, slow, long duration heating, etc.) On the other hand, the resulting cake would STIL require a detonator ("blasting cap") to do anything "interesting"! Dave |
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady wrote:
> >> They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > >> > >> Alert ! > > > >Hmmnn..... > >It is not a farfetched idea. Any extremely evil and but very creative > >person can possibly do that . > > You have GOT to be kidding! The idiot said "bake cakes with > explosives". Bake any explosive in an oven and I'm sure it will blow > up before you can stick your toothpick in to check it. > > (Idiots!) > -- > Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) Not so, really. Most commonly used high explosives are extremely INsensitive to heat and friction initiation. That's why they require a primer or detonator to set them off. GIs (probably of most countries) have frequently used chunks of C4 and other explosives as cooking fuel, as they simply burn, when lit with a match. I would be more concerned from a chemistry basis, with changes to the explosive compound in the baking environment (moisture, pH, slow, long duration heating, etc.) On the other hand, the resulting cake would STIL require a detonator ("blasting cap") to do anything "interesting"! Dave |
Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady > wrote in message >. ..
> (Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 4 Oct > 2004 02:01:15 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash > (Roy Basan) reported: > > (Brian Raab) wrote in message . com>... > >> They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > >> > >> Alert ! > > > >Hmmnn..... > >It is not a farfetched idea. Any extremely evil and but very creative > >person can possibly do that . > > You have GOT to be kidding! The idiot said "bake cakes with > explosives". Bake any explosive in an oven and I'm sure it will blow > up before you can stick your toothpick in to check it. > Chalazah, I was disgusted.... I am aware that all Israelis are to undergo military training and possibly attain some considerable knowledge about explosives. Don't tell me that you are naive about these things.... What is your problem?.....are you worried that in a certain Jewish festivities some of the baked goods( ordered from outside )for such occassion can be laced with explosives and wired to be detonated remotely? Now if you say that is impossible to bake and explosive into the dough?I doubt about that.What is the internal baking temperatures in the normal bread dough ( or cake batter), just barely reaching 100 deg C. The melting point of PETN and RDX are 140 and 205 deg C respectively.And if ever they are forgotten in the oven and overheated they will not explode directly but to gradually smoke and burn with a smoky flame in such conditions. Therefore if a bread , say a decorative one that is commonly made with flour, water and salt and have part of the flour replaced with finely divided PETN. It will come out as a dough alright which can be molded into decorative items which can be also wired. There is a truth in the latter as it was proven in one of the classified US military manuals that you can make an explosive bake stable dough that can be used as bomb.And there are many ezamples there of explosive cookies and pancakes in that compilation. Why its not entirely poaaible that the , homintashen cookies and even bagels( not necessarily baked) can be simulated from plastic bonded explosives. On the other hand in my previous post...... I was not thinking of baking the cake with explosives but having its finishing and decoration foundation based on such materials as commonly used marzipan and rolled fondant be simulated with home made plastic explosives. It is possible, to give a you hint the binder can be obtained from chewing gum can be used to make a moldable ezplosives and any plasticizers can obtained from various other sources used for interior decorating and carpentry work. Another example: Or the sponge cake when already cut into slices and to be washed with syrup before assembling into torte. But can have the syrup replaced with a nitrated sorbitol which is an explosive as well and its not as distinctive as the headache producing nitroglycerine and nitroglycol. Another way is to dissolve the PETN in acetone and use that to soak into the sponges/genoise and let the acetone dry leaving finely divided high explosive in the cake which can be easily initiated to detonation effectively. So a terrorist baker can use that to soak the sponges before its assembled and wired appropriately as well. Or the cake fillings can be made of the same plastic explosives but the consistency adjusted to be spreadable with a palette knife suitable odorless solvents such as glycerol,sorbitol etc. The cake icing can also be made with an explosive frosting adjusted to consistency for piping and spreading. In the end the detonator antenna can be disguised as a silver dragee decoration or even the wire assembled flowers in the wedding cakes. There are many possible ways that a high explosive can be placed in a baked product, so be careful. When you go to the bakery shop you better carry a trained bomb sniffing dog before you buy your baked goods<g> . BTW, a comforting thought( for you) is that the Palestinian terrorists have not reached that level of explosive sophistication.But the Israeli Mossad could have possibly thought of the same possibilities....They have entirely creative and novel ways of eliminating Hamas personalities. Roy |
Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady > wrote in message >. ..
> (Please NOTE: My correct e-mail address is in my Signature) On 4 Oct > 2004 02:01:15 -0700, during the rec.food.baking Community News Flash > (Roy Basan) reported: > > (Brian Raab) wrote in message . com>... > >> They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > >> > >> Alert ! > > > >Hmmnn..... > >It is not a farfetched idea. Any extremely evil and but very creative > >person can possibly do that . > > You have GOT to be kidding! The idiot said "bake cakes with > explosives". Bake any explosive in an oven and I'm sure it will blow > up before you can stick your toothpick in to check it. > Chalazah, I was disgusted.... I am aware that all Israelis are to undergo military training and possibly attain some considerable knowledge about explosives. Don't tell me that you are naive about these things.... What is your problem?.....are you worried that in a certain Jewish festivities some of the baked goods( ordered from outside )for such occassion can be laced with explosives and wired to be detonated remotely? Now if you say that is impossible to bake and explosive into the dough?I doubt about that.What is the internal baking temperatures in the normal bread dough ( or cake batter), just barely reaching 100 deg C. The melting point of PETN and RDX are 140 and 205 deg C respectively.And if ever they are forgotten in the oven and overheated they will not explode directly but to gradually smoke and burn with a smoky flame in such conditions. Therefore if a bread , say a decorative one that is commonly made with flour, water and salt and have part of the flour replaced with finely divided PETN. It will come out as a dough alright which can be molded into decorative items which can be also wired. There is a truth in the latter as it was proven in one of the classified US military manuals that you can make an explosive bake stable dough that can be used as bomb.And there are many ezamples there of explosive cookies and pancakes in that compilation. Why its not entirely poaaible that the , homintashen cookies and even bagels( not necessarily baked) can be simulated from plastic bonded explosives. On the other hand in my previous post...... I was not thinking of baking the cake with explosives but having its finishing and decoration foundation based on such materials as commonly used marzipan and rolled fondant be simulated with home made plastic explosives. It is possible, to give a you hint the binder can be obtained from chewing gum can be used to make a moldable ezplosives and any plasticizers can obtained from various other sources used for interior decorating and carpentry work. Another example: Or the sponge cake when already cut into slices and to be washed with syrup before assembling into torte. But can have the syrup replaced with a nitrated sorbitol which is an explosive as well and its not as distinctive as the headache producing nitroglycerine and nitroglycol. Another way is to dissolve the PETN in acetone and use that to soak into the sponges/genoise and let the acetone dry leaving finely divided high explosive in the cake which can be easily initiated to detonation effectively. So a terrorist baker can use that to soak the sponges before its assembled and wired appropriately as well. Or the cake fillings can be made of the same plastic explosives but the consistency adjusted to be spreadable with a palette knife suitable odorless solvents such as glycerol,sorbitol etc. The cake icing can also be made with an explosive frosting adjusted to consistency for piping and spreading. In the end the detonator antenna can be disguised as a silver dragee decoration or even the wire assembled flowers in the wedding cakes. There are many possible ways that a high explosive can be placed in a baked product, so be careful. When you go to the bakery shop you better carry a trained bomb sniffing dog before you buy your baked goods<g> . BTW, a comforting thought( for you) is that the Palestinian terrorists have not reached that level of explosive sophistication.But the Israeli Mossad could have possibly thought of the same possibilities....They have entirely creative and novel ways of eliminating Hamas personalities. Roy |
(Roy Basan) wrote:
> From: (Roy Basan) > Newsgroups: rec.food.baking > Subject: Alert! Terrorists bake explosive cakes ! ! ! > Date: 4 Oct 2004 19:41:40 -0700 > > The Old Bear wrote: > > > > Brian Raab > wrote: > > > > } From: (Brian Raab) > > } Newsgroups: rec.food.baking,can.vlsi > > } Subject: Alert! Terrorists bake explosive cakes ! ! ! > > } Date: 3 Oct 2004 19:43:47 -0700 > > } > > } They will bake cakes with explosives and use them to blow you up ! > > } > > } Alert ! > > > > I think Brian has been confused by all the recent discussion about Saddam > > Hussein ordering yellow cake as take-out from some bakery in Niger, Africa: > > Old bear, do not confuse the yellow layer cake with a refined uranium > oxide U3O8 called by the name as 'yellow cake'. > > Roy Roy, do not confuse attempted humor with nuclear physics. :) Cheers, The Old Bear - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ... and with a resounding splash, Noah sent forth from the ark a Dov ... © - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - |
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