I know that several bagel places around here ("Here" being
Chatham-Summit-Millburn, NJ) which make great bagels use General Mills All
Trumps flour. I assume that you could do the same with just about any bread
flour. If you need a flour like this is commercial quantities, call a local
restaurant supply house or wholesale grocer. A lot of them will allow you
to buy from them is you don't get in the way.

I know that Dawn Foods in Edison, NJ, has a Will Call arrangement. You call
up, tell them what you want and when you want it. They get it ready for
you, you pay for it and load it in your car. I assume that other sources
have similar arrangements. I can buy 50 pounds of All Trumps or Harvest
King for around $12.

Barry

"Josh Meyer" > wrote in message
om...
> I'm trying to figure out why NYC bagels are so much better than those
> in other parts of the country. Anyone have a suggestion about what
> kind of flour to use?
>
> Josh

"barry" > wrote in message
t...
> I know that several bagel places around here ("Here" being
> Chatham-Summit-Millburn, NJ) which make great bagels use General Mills All
> Trumps flour. I assume that you could do the same with just about any
bread
> flour. If you need a flour like this is commercial quantities, call a
local
> restaurant supply house or wholesale grocer. A lot of them will allow you
> to buy from them is you don't get in the way.
>
> I know that Dawn Foods in Edison, NJ, has a Will Call arrangement. You
call
> up, tell them what you want and when you want it. They get it ready for
> you, you pay for it and load it in your car. I assume that other sources
> have similar arrangements. I can buy 50 pounds of All Trumps or Harvest
> King for around $12.
>

Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen it at
Sam's Club also.

> Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen it at
> Sam's Club also.
>
I sure wish my Costco sold it. All I can find at our Costco, Hanover, NJ,
is a "Bread flour" that has a gluten/protein of 10-11%.

Barry

"barry" > wrote in
:

>> Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen
>> it at Sam's Club also.
>>
> I sure wish my Costco sold it. All I can find at our Costco, Hanover,
> NJ, is a "Bread flour" that has a gluten/protein of 10-11%.
>
> Barry
>
>
>

If you can find All Trumps... this is the best I have found for a great
robust flavor and has protein level of 14%. Puros has a will call ability,
and so does Dawn Foods. Most suppliers are willing to sell to the public
now a days due to the lagging economy. If you can't find a supplier, go to
GM website and ask them for a lead.

http://www.generalmills.com/gmflour/home.asp

Jean Scott

barry wrote:
>>Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen it at
>>Sam's Club also.
>>
>
> I sure wish my Costco sold it. All I can find at our Costco, Hanover, NJ,
> is a "Bread flour" that has a gluten/protein of 10-11%.
>
> Barry
>
>
And probably bleached, too.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

In article >,
"barry" > wrote:

> > Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen it at
> > Sam's Club also.
> >
> I sure wish my Costco sold it. All I can find at our Costco, Hanover, NJ,
> is a "Bread flour" that has a gluten/protein of 10-11%.
>

That's about the level of protein that the regular King Arthur flour
has. KA sells a Sir Lancelot bread flour that's over 14% gluten, and
they recommend using a heavy duty mixer to knead it so the full gluten
potential is developed.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Return address to the present tense to email me

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> In article >,
> "barry" > wrote:
>
>
>>>Our Costco sells the All Trumps flour and I believe that I have seen it at
>>>Sam's Club also.
>>>
>>
>>I sure wish my Costco sold it. All I can find at our Costco, Hanover, NJ,
>>is a "Bread flour" that has a gluten/protein of 10-11%.
>>
>
>
> That's about the level of protein that the regular King Arthur flour
> has. KA sells a Sir Lancelot bread flour that's over 14% gluten, and
> they recommend using a heavy duty mixer to knead it so the full gluten
> potential is developed.
>
> Cindy
>
Cindy,

Take a short drive to Whole Foods. WheatMontana is higher protein level
than Sir L. AND, it is priced much, much lower, too.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

> Take a short drive to Whole Foods. WheatMontana is higher protein level
> than Sir L. AND, it is priced much, much lower, too.
> --
> Alan
>
I've been hounding our local Whole Foods (Madison, NJ) to get the Wheat
Montana set-up, but no luck so far. To get WM, I have to hit Wegman's in
Bridgewater, which is about 30 miles away. (30 miles may not sound like
much, but in NJ traffic, it's a lifetime. <g>)

Barry

barry wrote:
>>Take a short drive to Whole Foods. WheatMontana is higher protein level
>>than Sir L. AND, it is priced much, much lower, too.
>>--
>>Alan
>>
>
> I've been hounding our local Whole Foods (Madison, NJ) to get the Wheat
> Montana set-up, but no luck so far. To get WM, I have to hit Wegman's in
> Bridgewater, which is about 30 miles away. (30 miles may not sound like
> much, but in NJ traffic, it's a lifetime. <g>)
>
> Barry
>
>
Oh yeah, another reason why I gave up on living in Garbage State more
than 30 years ago. ( I was raised in Plainfield.)

--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:34:16 GMT, "barry" >
wrote:

>I know that several bagel places around here ("Here" being
>Chatham-Summit-Millburn, NJ) which make great bagels use General Mills All
>Trumps flour. I assume that you could do the same with just about any bread
>flour. If you need a flour like this is commercial quantities, call a local
>restaurant supply house or wholesale grocer. A lot of them will allow you
>to buy from them is you don't get in the way.
>
>I know that Dawn Foods in Edison, NJ, has a Will Call arrangement. You call
>up, tell them what you want and when you want it. They get it ready for
>you, you pay for it and load it in your car. I assume that other sources
>have similar arrangements. I can buy 50 pounds of All Trumps or Harvest
>King for around $12.
>
>Barry
>
The GM web site lists versions of ALL Trumps, both bromated &
unbromated. It is an interesting page with specs for their bakers'
flours.

http://www.generalmills.com/gmflour/...=ESpring#50111

Boron

I've been using this site for a couple of years now. As far as I know, it's
the only flour web site that lists the spec sheet for a company's flours. A
lot of companies make claims for their flour, but this is the only spec
sheet I've seen.

Barry

> The GM web site lists versions of ALL Trumps, both bromated &
> unbromated. It is an interesting page with specs for their bakers'
> flours.
>
> http://www.generalmills.com/gmflour/...=ESpring#50111
>
> Boron