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[email protected] 03-03-2009 06:50 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
Here is my first attempt at Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry:

I made homemade yogurt and then whisked it with corn starch to prevent
separation as it cooks, then whisked in some olive oil along with a
portion of the curry spice mix.

Grate some fresh garlic, ginger, and onion, lightly sautee it in
little bit of oil, add a little butter, stir in a portion of curry
spice mix and turn off heat, remove from pan and allow to cool.

Once the spice mash has cooled, whisk it in the yogurt and pour into
pan. Slowly bring to a boil while whisking continously, adding some
water or chicken broth and maybe coconut milk as it thickens while
briging to a boil, then add diced cooked chicken and reduce heat to
low, cover and stir occasionally.

Cook the chicken curry while you prepare rice, adding a small amount
of curry spice mix to taste near the end, but watch it because all the
mixes seem to overdose on the red chile.

If you add coconut milk, you might want to omit the butter, and you
could probably reduce the amount of oil without harm.

The corn starch worked as a perfect binder, and the yogurt didn't
separate nor did the oil, and after half and hour the chicken was
tender and the curry sauce was thick and creamy and I served it over
rice. Naan bread would have been good, but I haven't learned how to
make it yet.

I used Shan brand 50g box of Chicken Shahi Curry mix from Pakistan,
and it was okay but I've still over half a dozen different mixes to
go, which I picked up at an Indian market for a dollar a box. Things
I might modify would be to add some lemon/lime juice, and maybe some
peanuts for a Thai twist, which would be especially good pureed with
coconut milk. Some of the mixes call for tomatoes or tomato paste.

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Recipe suggestion - see instructions above:

Cooked Chicken: 350g

Yogurt: 300g
Corn Starch: 25-30g
Oil: 10-15g

Onion: 20g+
Garlic: 10g+
Ginger: 20g+
Oil: 10-15g
Butter: 10-15g (optional)

Curry Mix: 10-20g (careful!)

Coconut Milk: 50-150g
Chicken Broth: 50-150g

Extra water if needed
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phil--c 03-03-2009 12:31 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
Two questions . How did it taste (in your opinion)

Will you be doing it again and if any modifications ?

wrote:
Here is my first attempt at Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry:

I made homemade yogurt and then whisked it with corn starch to prevent
separation as it cooks, then whisked in some olive oil along with a
portion of the curry spice mix.

Grate some fresh garlic, ginger, and onion, lightly sautee it in
little bit of oil, add a little butter, stir in a portion of curry
spice mix and turn off heat, remove from pan and allow to cool.

Once the spice mash has cooled, whisk it in the yogurt and pour into
pan. Slowly bring to a boil while whisking continously, adding some
water or chicken broth and maybe coconut milk as it thickens while
briging to a boil, then add diced cooked chicken and reduce heat to
low, cover and stir occasionally.

Cook the chicken curry while you prepare rice, adding a small amount
of curry spice mix to taste near the end, but watch it because all the
mixes seem to overdose on the red chile.

If you add coconut milk, you might want to omit the butter, and you
could probably reduce the amount of oil without harm.

The corn starch worked as a perfect binder, and the yogurt didn't
separate nor did the oil, and after half and hour the chicken was
tender and the curry sauce was thick and creamy and I served it over
rice. Naan bread would have been good, but I haven't learned how to
make it yet.

I used Shan brand 50g box of Chicken Shahi Curry mix from Pakistan,
and it was okay but I've still over half a dozen different mixes to
go, which I picked up at an Indian market for a dollar a box. Things
I might modify would be to add some lemon/lime juice, and maybe some
peanuts for a Thai twist, which would be especially good pureed with
coconut milk. Some of the mixes call for tomatoes or tomato paste.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
Recipe suggestion - see instructions above:

Cooked Chicken: 350g

Yogurt: 300g
Corn Starch: 25-30g
Oil: 10-15g

Onion: 20g+
Garlic: 10g+
Ginger: 20g+
Oil: 10-15g
Butter: 10-15g (optional)

Curry Mix: 10-20g (careful!)

Coconut Milk: 50-150g
Chicken Broth: 50-150g

Extra water if needed
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[email protected] 03-03-2009 11:20 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
On Mar 3, 5:31*am, phil--c wrote:
Two questions . How did it taste *(in your opinion)

Will you be doing *it again and if *any modifications ?


The taste was okay, but I'm going to be trying other brands of curry
mix, and hopefully one will resemble what I get at my favorite
Pakistani-Indian restaurants in San Francisco. It seems that every
brand of Indian or Thai curry has way too much red chile in it, which
overwhelms all the other spices. I wish they would omit it and let
the cook just add as much extra chile as he wants. One day I want to
attempt making curry with whole spices I toast and grind myself.

I had resisted trying to cook with yogurt because previous attempts
had always caused the yogurt to curdle into a disgusting mess, but the
corn starch trick worked perfectly. I thinned it out with some
coconut milk for my second serving and it really enhanced the flavor,
but added a lot of fat. I love Thai peanut sauce, so I might sautee
some raw peanuts and puree them with the yogurt and coconut milk,
though I doubt it's authentic for Indian curries.

phil--c 03-03-2009 11:51 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
wrote:
On Mar 3, 5:31 am, phil--c wrote:
Two questions . How did it taste (in your opinion)

Will you be doing it again and if any modifications ?


The taste was okay, but I'm going to be trying other brands of curry
mix, and hopefully one will resemble what I get at my favorite
Pakistani-Indian restaurants in San Francisco. It seems that every
brand of Indian or Thai curry has way too much red chile in it, which
overwhelms all the other spices. I wish they would omit it and let
the cook just add as much extra chile as he wants. One day I want to
attempt making curry with whole spices I toast and grind myself.

I had resisted trying to cook with yogurt because previous attempts
had always caused the yogurt to curdle into a disgusting mess, but the
corn starch trick worked perfectly. I thinned it out with some
coconut milk for my second serving and it really enhanced the flavor,
but added a lot of fat. I love Thai peanut sauce, so I might sautee
some raw peanuts and puree them with the yogurt and coconut milk,
though I doubt it's authentic for Indian curries.



Welcome to the world of Kitchen experiments :)

This web site may assist
http://www.squidoo.com/make-your-own...module10855519

I would suggest a very early purchase to be a mortar and pestle
This site you may find even more helpful


http://knol.google.com/k/sara/how-to...lb64ddr57w/36#

Some of curries from Karila and Goa have no chilli whatsoever
Instead they use Mustard seed or pepper .


Or over there if you can find an Indian shop grab some of the curry
powder they use in Fish head curry (YUM) see if you like it .
If so make that up in powder form EASY as .


Curries so so very regional some take your head off while eating
and you also pay for it the next day .
Others add a flavour without killing all the other subtle flavours of
whats main ingredient.

Thai curry to my mind is nothing like Indian curry with perhaps the
exception of Masaman (which is from the Malay part of the Kingdom any way )
HTH
Cheers

James Silverton[_4_] 03-03-2009 11:58 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:

Speaking as someone who has tried to achieve "no-fat" for 20 years (if
it ain't broke don't fix it and I'm still around after a heart bypass)
I resent the recipes that say "never use non-fat yoghurt since it will
curdle". I don't think the authors have ever tried but stirring in a
tablespoon of ordinary flour into the yoghurt before addition prevents
curdling.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


PeterLucas[_18_] 04-03-2009 12:22 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
"James Silverton" wrote in news:gokg6n$ef9
:

phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:

Speaking as someone who has tried to achieve "no-fat" for 20 years (if
it ain't broke don't fix it and I'm still around after a heart bypass)
I resent the recipes that say "never use non-fat yoghurt since it will
curdle". I don't think the authors have ever tried but stirring in a
tablespoon of ordinary flour into the yoghurt before addition prevents
curdling.




James..... "phil--c" is 'phil-c' aka 'pits09', 'spamlister',
'nemisis'(LOL!!!), 'tired-pits' etc, etc.

It's the original stalker-troll who went back to ozdebate and dragged the
other stalkers back with it...ie, *it* was the one that started all the
shit in here.


Now it's trying to be a 'regular', with it's Googled posts, and pretends
it doesn't know anything about the stalkers.


Best bet is to killfile it.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Killfile all Google Groups posters.........

http://improve-usenet.org/

http://improve-usenet.org/filters_bg.html

Nick Cramer 04-03-2009 12:26 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
PeterLucas wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in
phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:
[ . . . ]

Best bet is to killfile it.


Best bet is to NOT xpost!

--
Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran!
Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten.
Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061

Sqwertz 04-03-2009 01:25 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
wrote:

The corn starch worked as a perfect binder, and the yogurt didn't
separate nor did the oil, and after half and hour the chicken was
tender and the curry sauce was thick and creamy and I served it over
rice. Naan bread would have been good, but I haven't learned how to
make it yet.


What, no cilantro?

-sw

Sqwertz 04-03-2009 01:27 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
PeterLucas wrote:

"James Silverton" wrote in news:gokg6n$ef9
:

phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:

Speaking as someone who has tried to achieve "no-fat" for 20 years (if
it ain't broke don't fix it and I'm still around after a heart bypass)
I resent the recipes that say "never use non-fat yoghurt since it will
curdle". I don't think the authors have ever tried but stirring in a
tablespoon of ordinary flour into the yoghurt before addition prevents
curdling.


James..... "phil--c" is 'phil-c' aka 'pits09', 'spamlister',
'nemisis'(LOL!!!), 'tired-pits' etc, etc.

It's the original stalker-troll who went back to ozdebate and dragged the
other stalkers back with it...ie, *it* was the one that started all the
shit in here.

Now it's trying to be a 'regular', with it's Googled posts, and pretends
it doesn't know anything about the stalkers.

Best bet is to killfile it.


Shut the **** up, Peter. Go have your mental breakdown someplace
else, will ya?

-sw

Sqwertz 04-03-2009 02:01 AM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
Nick Cramer wrote:

Sqwertz wrote:
PeterLucas wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in
phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:
[ . . . ]

Shut the **** up, Peter. Go have your mental breakdown someplace
else, will ya?


Must we xpost?


Oh, go suck a salted duck egg, will ya? :-)

-sw

blake murphy[_2_] 04-03-2009 04:45 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:27:18 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

PeterLucas wrote:

"James Silverton" wrote in news:gokg6n$ef9
:

phil--c wrote on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:51:13 +0900:

Speaking as someone who has tried to achieve "no-fat" for 20 years (if
it ain't broke don't fix it and I'm still around after a heart bypass)
I resent the recipes that say "never use non-fat yoghurt since it will
curdle". I don't think the authors have ever tried but stirring in a
tablespoon of ordinary flour into the yoghurt before addition prevents
curdling.


James..... "phil--c" is 'phil-c' aka 'pits09', 'spamlister',
'nemisis'(LOL!!!), 'tired-pits' etc, etc.

It's the original stalker-troll who went back to ozdebate and dragged the
other stalkers back with it...ie, *it* was the one that started all the
shit in here.

Now it's trying to be a 'regular', with it's Googled posts, and pretends
it doesn't know anything about the stalkers.

Best bet is to killfile it.


Shut the **** up, Peter. Go have your mental breakdown someplace
else, will ya?

-sw


seriously. i don't think i've encountered anyone on usenet more interested
in telling people who they should not read or respond to.

your pal,
blake

Robert Klute[_2_] 04-03-2009 05:34 PM

Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry
 
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:50:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Here is my first attempt at Pakistani-Indian yogurt curry:


- - - - - - - - - - - -
Recipe suggestion - see instructions above:

Cooked Chicken: 350g

Yogurt: 300g
Corn Starch: 25-30g
Oil: 10-15g

Onion: 20g+
Garlic: 10g+
Ginger: 20g+
Oil: 10-15g
Butter: 10-15g (optional)

Curry Mix: 10-20g (careful!)

Coconut Milk: 50-150g
Chicken Broth: 50-150g

Extra water if needed
- - - - - - - - - - - -


Some suggestions from a gaurawalla.

The use of coconut is a south Indian ingrediant and would be used
instead of yogurt. So, use yogurt or coconut milk, not both. For north
Indian cooking the use of coconut would most likely be the meat shredded
as a garnish or pounded in with the spices. In both cases, sparingly.

That looks like way too much spice mix - an amount only a spice vendor
would like you to use. Think in the 2 tsp to 2 tbs range.

A tbs of plain coriander powder would probably be enough. Try adding
fresh chopped cilantro and/or mint as garnishes.

Add some chiles. The coconut really needs the heat of chiles.

Don't forger salt.


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