"Pete C." > wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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>> "Pete C." > wrote in message
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>> > George wrote:
>> >>
>> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >> > "George" > wrote in message
>> >> > . ..
>> >> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> So, they use too much oil. So do you. You happily buy products in
>> >> >>> excessive packaging. Might be made from recycled plastic, might
>> >> >>> not.
>> >> >>> You
>> >> >>> don't care, though, as long as it's convenient for you.
>> >> >> Anyone with an aircraft carrier vehicle is wasting oil way above
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> beyond what they and others might be wasting on "convenience".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also not everyone "happily buys products in excessive packaging".
>> >> >> We
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> reusable bags to the store so we aren't wasting plastic and often
>> >> >> buy
>> >> >> products at smaller merchants and farm markets etc where minimal or
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> packaging is used. I am quite sure we are not the only ones.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I never said "everyone". I'm focused right now on Om's hypocrisy.
>> >> > She
>> >> > points
>> >> > to passenger tanks as wasteful, but chooses to buy products with
>> >> > excessive
>> >> > packaging. And, it doesn't really matter if the stuff is recycled.
>> >> > It
>> >> > still
>> >> > uses energy to make that happen.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> You are missing my point. Suppose family "A" and family "B" are
>> >> identical in every way (including buying overpackaged items)except
>> >> family "A" has his & hers personal aircraft carriers in the driveway
>> >> and
>> >> family "B" has normal cars. Which one is more wasteful?
>> >
>> > Insufficient information. Annual mileage / use of vehicle required for
>> > a
>> > relevant answer.
>>
>> I assumed family A had a couple of Escalades and family B had something
>> like
>> a couple of Corollas. You don't need gas mileage data to take it from
>> there.
>> The only Corolla that gets 12 mpg (like an Escalade) is a broken Corolla.
>
> Family A Parent(s) work(s) from home, does the homestead thing (no
> grocery shopping), home school the kids and only leave the enclave once
> a week to go to church.
>
> Family B Parents both work, 15 mile and 20 mile commutes, grocery shop
> three times a week at the store 8 miles away because they aren't
> organized, drive kids to school, sports, etc., older kids drive all over
> the place to see friends.
>
> Not good to make assumptions...

Everyone else observing this discussion assumed "all else being equal". Not
you, though.